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3ball
05-11-2015, 05:37 AM
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1) Today's player benefits from weakside floor-spreaders and spacing that take defenders away from the strongside.. Previous eras didn't use the 3-point line and therefore didn't have weakside spacing, so they faced more defenders on the strongside than today's player does.

2) It's obvious that less is required to be considered great in today's game - Taj Gibson said Lebron was MJ, yet Lebron has only averaged 18.9 shot attempts per game in his playoff career.. The real MJ averaged 25.1, proving he carried the far bigger load and that his era required much more to win.. Pace is not a factor because Jordan's Bulls always played at the slowest pace in the league, equal or lower than any other era's pace.

PickernRoller
05-11-2015, 05:39 AM
Dude will stay 2/5 for the rest of his career. What else do you need to discount him from the Top 10?

All of the context etc and how much of a choker he's will be debated to death by his stans and people will take sides etc etc etc on a never ending circle jerk.

What the clowns can't change is 2/5. If he makes it to the Finals, 2/6.

Cocaine80s
05-11-2015, 05:40 AM
Lebron is already the greatest player of all time, that game winner confirmed it

MJ needs to attempt a come back at 52 if he wants to catch Lebron at this point

poido123
05-11-2015, 05:42 AM
Why?

I mean, if you know all this, why do you come on an internet board to try and convince everyone who will never agree?


You have written endless text on Jordan nonsense. Don't you get to a point where it just becomes pointless?


At all?

Lebron23
05-11-2015, 05:43 AM
He's already an all time great.

3ball
05-11-2015, 05:53 AM
I mean, if you know all this, why do you come on an internet board to try and convince everyone who will never agree?


I discuss these things here, because I never hear these things on any media anywhere.

And why wouldn't people agree?.. People normally agree with facts once they are made aware of them.

It's a fact that weakside floor spreaders and spacing didn't exist in previous eras, which can only mean they faced more defenders on the strongside than today's players.

It's a fact that Lebron only averaged 18.9 shots per game for his playoff career compared to MJ's 25.1, proving MJ carried the far bigger load - these aren't opinions.. They're facts.

3ball
05-11-2015, 06:10 AM
Why


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Thanks to weakside floor-spreaders, today's player never faces a strongside that has all 5 defenders on it.. :confusedshrug:


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aj1987
05-11-2015, 06:12 AM
Dude will stay 2/5 for the rest of his career. What else do you need to discount him from the Top 10?

All of the context etc and how much of a choker he's will be debated to death by his stans and people will take sides etc etc etc on a never ending circle jerk.

What the clowns can't change is 2/5. If he makes it to the Finals, 2/6.
http://i.imgur.com/ywolq7i.png

2/5 and still higher than your idol on the all time list. :roll:

MP.Trey
05-11-2015, 06:13 AM
Mj shoots more than LeBron?

People shoot more 3s nowadays than in the 80's and 90's?

3ball dropping straight knowledge. Who woulda thunk it?

SpaceJammeR
05-11-2015, 06:17 AM
you are seriously threatened by lebron lol. every cot damn day you post something about him. lol if you feel lebron will never be an all time great. good for you.

3ball
05-11-2015, 06:18 AM
Mj shoots more than LeBron?


If MJ had Lebron's stats (including Lebron's 18.9 FGA's per game instead of 25.1), he would have exactly zero rings.. That's how much worse Lebron's stats are.





People shoot more 3s nowadays than in the 80's and 90's?


Show me a play where today's player faced a strongside that had all 5 defenders on it - it simply never happens because today's game has weakside spacing/floor-spreaders..

Previous eras didn't have weakside floor-spreaders, so players faced more defenders on the strongside - even a cursory glance at footage shows this (see a few posts up)..

LBJ 23
05-11-2015, 06:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ywolq7i.png

2/5 and still higher than your idol on the all time list. :roll:

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