FG% aside, LeBron averages 26.0 ppg 11.3 rpg 9.0 apg vs the Bulls in 4 games

[k0kakw0rld]

Getting carried they say.The crazy part is people still consider his performances average to poor.

#GOAT

[riseagainst]

FG% aside.
That's when you know lebron d1ckriders are getting desperate.

[coin24]

The irony:oldlol:

[Velocirap31]

FG% aside.
That's when you know lebron d1ckriders are getting desperate.

He's averaging a near triple double at 26 ppg and you think his fans are getting desperate? He's still having an incredible series, it's just rare for Lebron to shoot a poor percentage for any stretch of time.

[Yoshi]

Getting carried they say.The crazy part is people still consider his performances average to poor.

#GOAT

You don't get to put the stats that make him look back to the side and then call him GOAT. You just don't get to.

[Yoshi]

The irony:oldlol:

Seriously, LeBron fans were all about efficiency the last few years to give him something over Kobe. :lol

[sbw19]

Awesome numbers, uncharacteristically good FT% and GW to boot. Catch? Usage @ 41%. No player on either team averaging 15+ppg while shooting better than 40% from the field (two teams cummulative FG% is 41%), so lots of rebounds to be had.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobetards LOVE fg% now

[SugarHill]

" FG% aside"

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Happy-Clapping-To-Dramatic-WTF-Reaction-GIf.gif

[Velocirap31]

Awesome numbers, uncharacteristically good FT% and GW to boot. Catch? Usage @ 41%. No player on either team averaging 15+ppg while shooting better than 40% from the field (two teams cummulative FG% is 41%), so lots of rebounds to be had.


A subjective Laker fan? You are a unicorn sir, will rep when able. :applause:

[SexSymbol]

And 6-7 TO?

[Lebron23]

Seriously, LeBron fans were all about efficiency the last few years to give him something over Kobe. :lol


He's been a better player than Kobe.

[greatest-ever]

Lebron is shooting a 44 ts% and averaging 5.8 turnovers per game in this series, idc what his assists and rebounds are he is not having a good series. He's really lucky that this is a tied series playing that way.

[Rake2204]

#GOAThttp://i.imgur.com/TvpecFu.gif

[CelticBaller]

FG% aside? Nah dog, ya kill Kobe stans with that shit, so take the L like a man


Not even mentioning his TO per game either lol

[chips93]

The irony:oldlol:

this

[chips93]

Kobetards LOVE fg% now

lebron stans suddenly dont care about it

:confusedshrug:

[DMAVS41]

He's been horrible.

Only reason he's not at home right now is because he plays in a joke conference.

44% TS with a 93 ortg and a 40% usage? It's like all time bad offense. Again, the East is a complete joke.

[ILLsmak]

Getting carried they say.The crazy part is people still consider his performances average to poor.

#GOAT

LeBron has been pure ass no matter what the stats say. Anyone who seriously doesn't think LeBron is playing like shit right now is a stan beyond belief.

He made a GW tho, so GG. But dude was coughing up the ball, air balling, missing lay ups. And it's not like he's playing balls to the wall either, he's just doing stupid shit.

-Smak

[Indian guy]

I can only think of 2 series' where he was worse - 2007 and 2011 Finals. No matter how good your all around game is, it's hard to ignore 38% shooting and 6 to per game. That means you have pretty much sucked on one side of the floor.

[IMObjective]

http://i.imgur.com/TvpecFu.gif
Oh shit, never seen rake clown people before. He's like one of the nicest dudes on here. You know the L stans are getting bad when rake comes out with posts like this.

[Rake2204]

Oh shit, never seen rake clown people before. He's like one of the nicest dudes on here. You know the L stans are getting bad when rake comes out with posts like this.Not to ruin a moment, but I actually made that gif this morning and didn't know where to save it, so I scanned the front page here for a thread where it might work best so I could put it somewhere for reference, haha.

[SourSamCassell]

Take it in the context of the game guys,

Both teams are shooting terribly,

The defenses have been stingy as hell

The refs are letting them play,

I don't see anyone else on the Cavs doing nearly as much as Lebron has been doing

Disregarding efficiency, this series has just been a battle

Jordan had a few series like this in the 2nd 3peat... Although he wasn't the main ball-handler so he didn't have as much turnovers

I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs get out of this series as a stronger team with more heart... Same goes for the Bulls... Cleveland MIGHT have a chance against Memphis/Clippers with a healthy Lebron/Kyrie/Shump.... Long way to go though, won't be writing off the bulls they will fight to the end

[IMObjective]

Not to ruin a moment, but I actually made that gif this morning and didn't know where to save it, so I scanned the front page here for a thread where it might work best so I could put it somewhere for reference, haha.
:lol :cheers:

[Straight_Ballin]

He's averaging a near triple double at 26 ppg and you think his fans are getting desperate? He's still having an incredible series, it's just rare for Lebron to shoot a poor percentage for any stretch of time.

Most foolish thing I've read in weeks. YES his fans are certainly most desperate. Cleveland hasn't won anything in ages. The ENTIRE city is on pins and needles and are desperate as **** to win a title. They ARE certainly honed in on everything he is doing, including that piss poor fg% and highest turnovers per game of anyone in the post season.

[Legends66NBA7]

Hasn't looked good outside that game winner.

Rebounds are high because of so many missed shots and Love being out. His assists to turnover ratio and jump shooting overall has been worse. Just can't hope to contend this way.

[MP.Trey]

lebron stans suddenly dont care about it

:confusedshrug:
Hypocrisy on both sides.

LeBron is clearly playing below average by his standards but the encouraging thing is that he's playing hard and impacting the game in more than one way. I mean, even shooting like shit and turning the ball over, he's still showing good defensive intensity, averaging near a triple double and winning games at the buzzer for us. He may be not playing up to par, but he's still leading our depleted roster to wins.

[Straight_Ballin]

Lebron James: "Rose called bank. Pierce called game. I called rim for game. Anyone can hit a lucky shot but when I shoot a game winner I make sure it's nothing but net or just grazing the rim so that it can't be seen as luck"

This is what a true alpha would have said when given the opportunity post game interview but like his beta self, lebron passes on the opportunity to make Pierce look like a complete ****ing idiot for his "he called bank I called game" comment.

Don't try to justify bron's failed opportunity with bullshit logic..... just accept it as a missed opportunity and move on. Your boy failed again.

[salwan]

those are prime westbrook numbers :applause:
including the shitty % and huge usage rate

[KG215]

He's averaging a near triple double at 26 ppg and you think his fans are getting desperate? He's still having an incredible series, it's just rare for Lebron to shoot a poor percentage for any stretch of time.
He's not. There are instances where raw numbers can be deceiving. Game 2 aside, he's not been as good as his raw number suggest. He's turned the ball over a ton, his defense has been sub-par, and there just haven't been many instances throughout the series where it felt like he was controlling and dominating the game. And I know his high usage% is part of the reason his turnover volume is so high, but that doesn't completely excuse him taking very poor care of the ball in my eyes. It's still detrimental to the Cavs when he's taking away 5-7 possessions per game by giving the ball to the Bulls.

[Velocirap31]

Most foolish thing I've read in weeks. YES his fans are certainly most desperate. Cleveland hasn't won anything in ages. The ENTIRE city is on pins and needles and are desperate as **** to win a title. They ARE certainly honed in on everything he is doing, including that piss poor fg% and highest turnovers per game of anyone in the post season.

2-2 series. No desperation. Change Cleveland to Houston and your paragraph makes sense.

[Mass Debator]

Shooting 2/19 from downtown? :eek:

[Straight_Ballin]

2-2 series. No desperation. Change Cleveland to Houston and your paragraph makes sense.

Lol try again. When's the last time you've been in a cleveland sports bar? I was just in one (sadly enough) and they were on pins and needles game 4 of the boston series with Cavs being up 3-0!

[KG215]

He's been horrible.

Only reason he's not at home right now is because he plays in a joke conference.

44% TS with a 93 ortg and a 40% usage? It's like all time bad offense. Again, the East is a complete joke.
Pretty much this. Anyone that's watched this series and can come to the conclusion LeBron is having a great, amazing, or even good series is probably a LeBron fanboy. The Cavs lost Love for the playoffs in the 1st round, about half of the rest of the roster is playing noticeably hobbled, and the Cavs are more than likely still going to make the Finals because the East is a joke. The Cavs partially won that game yesterday by default. LeBron and the Cavs were awful yesterday, but the Bulls were even more incompetent. Kudos to LeBron for the game winner, that was a big time shot. But both teams were awful yesterday and, for the majority of the series, both teams have looked pretty average.

[Velocirap31]

Lebron James: "Rose called bank. Pierce called game. I called rim for game. Anyone can hit a lucky shot but when I shoot a game winner I make sure it's nothing but net or just grazing the rim so that it can't be seen as luck"

This is what a true alpha would have said when given the opportunity post game interview but like his beta self, lebron passes on the opportunity to make Pierce look like a complete ****ing idiot for his "he called bank I called game" comment.

Don't try to justify bron's failed opportunity with bullshit logic..... just accept it as a missed opportunity and move on. Your boy failed again.

What the hell are you talking about here?

[Velocirap31]

Lol try again. When's the last time you've been in a cleveland sports bar? I was just in one (sadly enough) and they were on pins and needles game 4 of the boston series with Cavs being up 3-0!

People get into regular season games like this that mean far less.

[Straight_Ballin]

What the hell are you talking about here?

The post game interview, his fg%, the turnovers, it all ties into the big picture of what a beta he's been this post season. Don't try and spin it like he's having a great post season just because of the numbers. Everyone is watching the games lol.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

those are prime westbrook numbers :applause:
including the shitty % and huge usage rate

Mini-Westbrook.

:applause:

[Velocirap31]

The post game interview, his fg%, the turnovers, it all ties into the big picture of what a beta he's been this post season. Don't try and spin it like he's having a great post season just because of the numbers. Everyone is watching the games lol.

You made a thread of the exact same post and got shit on. :lol

[Magic 32]

The irony is running down the walls here.

Surely even hardcore Lebron stans now realize that they are no different than anyone else.

[ArbitraryWater]

The irony is running down the walls here.

Surely even hardcore Lebron stans now realize that they are no different than anyone else.

Everything else is good, his efficiency sucks, general opinion = poor..

eye opener much?

[Straight_Ballin]

You made a thread of the exact same post and got shit on. :lol

No, a mod got salty because bron got made to look like a fool and closed the thread. Thread was so good mod caught feelings. :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

The irony is running down the walls here.

Surely even hardcore Lebron stans now realize that they are no different than anyone else.

Stans pick and choose their criteria.

That's always been the same.

[Magic 32]

Everything else is good, his efficiency sucks, general opinion = poor..

eye opener much?

His TO's, his FG%, his iso stagnation of the offense.

If he played against a team with just average offensive power we would be ridiculing him right now.

[Legends66NBA7]

No, a mod got salty because bron got made to look like a fool and closed the thread. Thread was so good mod caught feelings. :lol

Where's the link of the quote ?

[IMObjective]

Damn, lebron's turning into old man Kobe right before our eyes.

[Straight_Ballin]

Where's the link of the quote ?

I'll find it in a bit. Right now these tears are tasting sooooo good that I don't want to get up from the head seat at the table and miss my refill. All these years of bran stans talking shit about Kobe FG% only to have it come back and bite them in the ass. :lol

You couldn't make this shit up.

[Velocirap31]

I'll find it in a bit. Right now these tears are tasting sooooo good that I don't want to get up from the head seat at the table and miss my refill. All these years of bran stans talking shit about Kobe FG% only to have it come back and bite them in the ass. :lol

You couldn't make this shit up.

There is a bit of karma there, I'll give you that. :lol

[Quickening]

I'll find it in a bit. Right now these tears are tasting sooooo good that I don't want to get up from the head seat at the table and miss my refill. All these years of bran stans talking shit about Kobe FG% only to have it come back and bite them in the ass. :lol

You couldn't make this shit up.

Kobe had poor fg% his entire career, hardly comparable

[ImKobe]

Lebron - 48%TS, 21 PER, .100 WS/48 :kobe:, 7.8 assists to 5.3 turnovers :kobe:

his scoring for the entire Playoff run has been terrible and his passing/playmaking has sucked, if he actually played a contending team his team would be eliminated by now.

24.5 shots a game to average 26.5 points per game :kobe:

Seriously, outside of rebounding and that one game-winning shot, his play has been terrible to say the least, but I guess we shouldn't give him as much credit as the Bulls for sucking that hard, because Lebron has the worst ORTG out of every single rotation player and is the only rotation player with a lower ORTG than DRTG on his team outside of Dellavedova.

[ImKobe]

Kobe had poor fg% his entire career, hardly comparable

48%TS bro? Not once did he ever shoot that badly for the Playoffs.

[chips93]

Hypocrisy on both sides.

exactly


LeBron is clearly playing below average by his standards but the encouraging thing is that he's playing hard and impacting the game in more than one way. I mean, even shooting like shit and turning the ball over, he's still showing good defensive intensity, averaging near a triple double and winning games at the buzzer for us. He may be not playing up to par, but he's still leading our depleted roster to wins.


yeah id agree

obviously the shooting isnt there, and he has to carry the offense with kyrie hobbled, and the bulls are playing really good defense, but his passing has been great. he had some spectacular passes in game 3.

[ImKobe]

exactly



yeah id agree

obviously the shooting isnt there, and he has to carry the offense with kyrie hobbled, and the bulls are playing really good defense, but his passing has been great. he had some spectacular passes in game 3.

People are not giving the opposing teams enough credit for stinking up the joint. When you can play as badly as Lebron played Game 4 on the road, and still be in position to even attempt a game-winning shot, something has to be wrong with the opposing team.

[Keno]

lebron is held to high standards. crazy stats.

[Levity]

48%TS bro? Not once did he ever shoot that badly for the Playoffs.

you know lebron, always trying to one up kobe.

[Young X]

He hasn't had a good series at all. He's been incredibly inefficient to the point where he's almost using more possessions than the points he's generating. Luckily he can get away with it by playing in the east.

[chips93]

People are not giving the opposing teams enough credit for stinking up the joint. When you can play as badly as Lebron played Game 4 on the road, and still be in position to even attempt a game-winning shot, something has to be wrong with the opposing team.

just like you have to credit the good defense that he is facing for forcing him into tough shots and turnovers

[HurricaneKid]

Pretty much this. Anyone that's watched this series and can come to the conclusion LeBron is having a great, amazing, or even good series is probably a LeBron fanboy. The Cavs lost Love for the playoffs in the 1st round, about half of the rest of the roster is playing noticeably hobbled, and the Cavs are more than likely still going to make the Finals because the East is a joke. The Cavs partially won that game yesterday by default. LeBron and the Cavs were awful yesterday, but the Bulls were even more incompetent. Kudos to LeBron for the game winner, that was a big time shot. But both teams were awful yesterday and, for the majority of the series, both teams have looked pretty average.

I readily admit I'm a LeBron fan. But even I know he has been dreadful this series (outside of a decent game in G2). I thought he was doing a good job in Q2 last night moving the ball as Chicago geared up for his attack. But he really did revert back to 07 LeBron just ISOing and settling for long Js against bigger defenders.

I hope even his fans recognize that this LeBron can't win in the current league.

But Kyrie shouldn't even be on the floor. He can't move and the Bulls have started to attack him as his defense has dropped several levels, and on O they just push into him to force him to drive since he has no lift and can't finish. And Shump clearly reaggravated his groin injury. And they don't have many off weapons any more.

[nba_55]

Lebron hasn't played well. It's still 2-2, that's a good news for Cavs. I think his shooting will comeback like it did against the spurs in 2013.

[Straight_Ballin]

Kobe had poor fg% his entire career, hardly comparable

Then stop comparing a 5/7 player to a 2/5 player.

[G0ATbe]

Poor mans Westbrook.

[livinglegend]

I readily admit I'm a LeBron fan. But even I know he has been dreadful this series (outside of a decent game in G2). I thought he was doing a good job in Q2 last night moving the ball as Chicago geared up for his attack. But he really did revert back to 07 LeBron just ISOing and settling for long Js against bigger defenders.

I hope even his fans recognize that this LeBron can't win in the current league.

But Kyrie shouldn't even be on the floor. He can't move and the Bulls have started to attack him as his defense has dropped several levels, and on O they just push into him to force him to drive since he has no lift and can't finish. And Shump clearly reaggravated his groin injury. And they don't have many off weapons any more.

He is too slow with his decisions.
He has to hold the ball for atleast 5 seconds before making a move.
The defense has the time to set up for his attack.
He has to make quicker decisions and Blatt needs to find ways to get him the ball while he is still moving.

[Solefade]

Poor mans Westbrook.



http://media.kanyetothe.com/uploaded_avatars/avatar_996732_1430803500.png

[k0kakw0rld]

Lebron is shooting a 44 ts% and averaging 5.8 turnovers per game in this series, idc what his assists and rebounds are he is not having a good series. He's really lucky that this is a tied series playing that way.
You got to be able to do other things if you can't score efficiently. Make others score too, and make the big plays when it matters. Hypocrites are trying to kill LeBron cause of his FG%. Kobe gets a pass of course. :lol

[riseagainst]

Poor mans Westbrook.

:lol

[ballinhun8]

He's been a better player than Kobe.


How can you tell when his d1ck is in your mouth every game?

[ApexPredator]

The irony:oldlol:
:lol

[chazzy]

This is similar to how people use Kobe's 15 rebounds to excuse his poor shooting in 2010 game 7. When you shoot that poorly it really negates a lot of what you do

[Hey Yo]

http://media.kanyetothe.com/uploaded_avatars/avatar_996732_1430803500.png
:roll:

[Milbuck]

http://i.imgur.com/TvpecFu.gif
http://img.pandawhale.com/105044-bad-boys-shit-just-got-real-gi-nMpT.gif

[Papaya Petee]

Seriously, LeBron fans were all about efficiency the last few years to give him something over Kobe. :lol
"Something"? How about the fact LeBron averages a higher PPG, APG, and RPG than Kobe for his career and playoffs.

[TheMan]

Kobetards LOVE fg% now
LeRetards not GAF about FG %...the irony

[Magic 32]

"Something"? How about the fact LeBron averages a higher PPG, APG, and RPG than Kobe for his career and playoffs.

Nobody cares.

We all know the variables that gives Lebron a statistical edge (like his refusal to be anything but the center of every team he is on. He will sabotage a finals series if he has to).

[imdaman99]

those are prime westbrook numbers :applause:
including the shitty % and huge usage rate
Westbrook averaged a triple double for weeks with 30+ points. So no, they are not even close to prime Westbrook numbers.

[TheMan]

Lebron hasn't played well. It's still 2-2, that's a good news for Cavs. I think his shooting will comeback like it did against the spurs in 2013.
The thing is, LeBron shot well in 13 RS, especially from long range, he went through a cold spell in the Finals, which can happen to anyone, he got hot at the end of the series. This year though, his shot has been broken for some reason, he's been able to get away with it because the Bulls often forget how to score. Even if he get's past us, there will be teams in later rounds that will know how to put the ball through the rim, and if he continues to shoot terribly, unlike the Bulls, they'll make him pay.

[BlackVVaves]

FG% aside? Nah dog, ya kill Kobe stans with that shit, so take the L like a man


Not even mentioning his TO per game either lol

This.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Nobody cares.

We all know the variables that gives Lebron a statistical edge (like his refusal to be anything but the center of every team he is on. He will sabotage a finals series if he has to).
:biggums:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/TvpecFu.gif

[Cleverness]

Take it in the context of the game guys,

Both teams are shooting terribly,

The defenses have been stingy as hell

The refs are letting them play,

I don't see anyone else on the Cavs doing nearly as much as Lebron has been doing

Disregarding efficiency, this series has just been a battle

Jordan had a few series like this in the 2nd 3peat... Although he wasn't the main ball-handler so he didn't have as much turnovers

I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs get out of this series as a stronger team with more heart... Same goes for the Bulls... Cleveland MIGHT have a chance against Memphis/Clippers with a healthy Lebron/Kyrie/Shump.... Long way to go though, won't be writing off the bulls they will fight to the end


this. it's not like kevin love and kyrie are able to carry the offense right now.

[DMAVS41]

Do people now get how stupid it is to basically say;

Scoring efficiency and turnovers aside... For a high usage player when talking about offense?

Lebron has been horrendous this series and padding up raw stats does nothing to change that

Only reason he's not at home is because the Bulls are also playing horribly.

The East is like all time bad in these playoffs. Usually there is 1 legit team... Now with all the injuries there isn't even one as of now.

[riseagainst]

using OP's logic:

if you take out lebron's 3 finals losses, he is 2/2 in the finals. GOAT!!!!

[pegasus]

using OP's logic:

if you take out lebron's 3 finals losses, he is 2/2 in the finals. GOAT!!!!
:roll: :roll: :applause: