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GOBB
05-11-2015, 04:04 PM
I'm going to be very happy :banana: or pissed :banghead:

Go Sixers

HylianNightmare
05-11-2015, 04:08 PM
Magic not getting shit

el gringos
05-11-2015, 04:10 PM
I'm going to be very happy :banana: or pissed :banghead:

Go Sixers
Hoping for 5 and 6?

MP.Trey
05-11-2015, 04:13 PM
We'll let someone else take it this year

GOBB
05-11-2015, 04:14 PM
Hoping for 5 and 6?

Depending who went 1-4 that could suck. You're talking Winslow (who i like) and Mario/Porz (2 euros). After them its nothing I crave. And as far as the 2 euros, outside of articles and highlights. I dont know what to expect out of them.

Yoshi
05-11-2015, 04:19 PM
We'll let someone else take it this year

Cavs finally not getting it, huh?

JellyBean
05-11-2015, 04:34 PM
I wonder how many more times my Timberwolves can get screwed in this lottery mess.

el gringos
05-11-2015, 04:50 PM
Depending who went 1-4 that could suck. You're talking Winslow (who i like) and Mario/Porz (2 euros). After them its nothing I crave. And as far as the 2 euros, outside of articles and highlights. I dont know what to expect out of them.
Mario sure seems destined to be a sixer right? Would you get more out of saric and Mario if they were together? (Or am I mistaken thinking they have some connection already)

Yoshi
05-11-2015, 04:53 PM
I wonder how many more times my Timberwolves can get screwed in this lottery mess.

7.

niko
05-11-2015, 04:57 PM
I'm going to be very happy :banana: or pissed :banghead:

Go Sixers

That MCW trade is looking great. Who needs a good PG what has huge reach and plays awesome defense when you can draft and hope.

niko
05-11-2015, 04:58 PM
Knicks got this shit locked. Towns coming home, comign home...

Eric Cartman
05-11-2015, 05:15 PM
All the tanking has lead to this.

Lakers have about a 20% chance of losing their pick.

Hope it's the top teams that get the picks not miami/detroit/hornets or some bullshit.

Genaro
05-11-2015, 05:18 PM
I just hope the Lakers get to keep the pick, everything after that is a bonus.


All the tanking has lead to this.

Lakers have about a 20% chance of losing their pick.

Hope it's the top teams that get the picks not miami/detroit/hornets or some bullshit.
Or the Thunder. It would be so unfair something like KD, Westbrook, Ibaka and Towns

Lensanity
05-11-2015, 05:22 PM
Suns got this :rockon:

smoovegittar
05-11-2015, 05:24 PM
Knicks got this shit locked. Towns coming home, comign home...

Bwai, I hope you're correct -

..just learned he signed with CAA.

el gringos
05-11-2015, 05:27 PM
All the tanking has lead to this.

Lakers have about a 20% chance of losing their pick.

Hope it's the top teams that get the picks not miami/detroit/hornets or some bullshit.
Indian, Phoenix, Utah and okc are the teams that IMO are the scariest to see win. I do want one of those teams to win a top 2-3 spot though so that Miami loses their pick to sixers.


Just to make the draft the most interesting I'm hoping sixers end up w 5,6, and 11. Then there has to be a trade prob


I'm hoping Knicks win 1 and trade it and that sixers make some moves.

JimmyMcAdocious
05-11-2015, 05:29 PM
Knicks and Lakers going to be 1 and 2 (in some order). Neg poster above me if I'm wrong.

LemonMan
05-11-2015, 05:34 PM
Hope lakers get a good pick. I'm tired of there being only one good NBA team in LA.

Eric Cartman
05-11-2015, 05:34 PM
My prediction for the lottery:

1. Wolves
2. Sixers
3. Magic
4. Knicks
5. Lakers

Neg poster above if I'm wrong.

el gringos
05-11-2015, 05:39 PM
My prediction for the lottery:

1. Wolves - towns
2. Sixers - okafor
3. Magic - Winslow
4. Knicks - Russell
5. Lakers - mudiay

Neg poster above if I'm wrong.
Is that how you'd see the picks going ?

Mass Debator
05-11-2015, 05:42 PM
Hope the T-Wolves get #1

el gringos
05-11-2015, 05:47 PM
Hope the T-Wolves get #4 and then trade it, Lavine, a do bjelica for the #1, Calderon, and Tim Hardaway jr

Me too

kamil
05-11-2015, 05:51 PM
Cavs will get another 1st pick.

LeBron* needs moar help!

Jameerthefear
05-11-2015, 05:58 PM
Is that how you'd see the picks going ?
magic ain't picking winslow at #3

Eric Cartman
05-11-2015, 06:04 PM
Is that how you'd see the picks going ?

Yes, with the exception of the Lakers drafting Mario Hezonja and Knicks Mudiay.

Russell is a sure fire bust.

el gringos
05-11-2015, 06:14 PM
magic ain't picking winslow at #3
Who then? Porzingis ?

outbreak
05-11-2015, 06:17 PM
Who then? Porzingis ?
mudiay or russell probably. Winslow/Porzingis/Cauley Stein if we drop to 5 or 6 I imagine. I'm not sure Mudiay or Russell is the right fit for us though.

We are getting the number pick anyway according to Orlando Sentinel, we're sending Pat Williams and that guarantees us luck apparently. Except for all the times we sent him and dropped..... :facepalm

Sarcastic
05-11-2015, 06:20 PM
Who then? Porzingis ?

They'll pick whoever the Lakers want.

Optimus Prime
05-11-2015, 06:22 PM
Go Lakers! :banana:

Jeanie should really rep the Lakers this year. :eek:

outbreak
05-11-2015, 06:28 PM
They'll pick whoever the Lakers want.

Lakers probably want a guard for Houston to replace Harden with?

Relinquish
05-11-2015, 06:31 PM
Hope lakers get a good pick. I'm tired of there being only one good NBA team in LA.

What's it been, 2 years whole years? Yeah, so depressing... and there's only been one good NBA team in LA since the inception of the league.

Jameerthefear
05-11-2015, 06:41 PM
Who then? Porzingis ?
At #3? u trolling?

el gringos
05-11-2015, 08:42 PM
At #3? u trolling?
No just asking who you think the magic would pick at 3. I'm guessing that you buy into believing that mudiay/Russell are locks to go 3&4 no matter which team picks there?

HylianNightmare
05-11-2015, 08:50 PM
They'll pick whoever the Lakers want.
Clever very clever

Akrazotile
05-11-2015, 08:52 PM
Gobb lives for the lottery :oldlol:

HylianNightmare
05-11-2015, 08:55 PM
No just asking who you think the magic would pick at 3. I'm guessing that you buy into believing that mudiay/Russell are locks to go 3&4 no matter which team picks there?
Winslow or Russell, I don't want mudiay I'd even take stein

Sportal
05-11-2015, 10:32 PM
So is Winslow a gamble, or...

gts
05-11-2015, 10:39 PM
Bwai, I hope you're correct -

..just learned he signed with CAA.That means he'll end up in Cleveland :lol

el gringos
05-11-2015, 10:40 PM
So is Winslow a gamble, or...
My guess is that nobody sees him as a gamble. Might be one of the safest picks there is. Prob most just question if his ceiling is as high as the rest of the top prospects

gts
05-11-2015, 10:41 PM
Go Lakers! :banana:

Jeanie should really rep the Lakers this year. :eek:I think Scott will be there if I remember correctly

kennethgriffin
05-11-2015, 10:42 PM
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Minnesota Timberwolves
3. Orlando Magic
4. New York Knicks
5. Philadelphia Sixers
6. Sacramento Kings
7. Denver Nuggets
8. Detroit Pistons
9. Charlotte Hornets
10. Miami Heat
11. Indiana Pacers
12. Utah Jazz
13. Phoenix Suns
14. Oklahoma City Thunder

Xiao Yao You
05-11-2015, 10:49 PM
Jazz are due

GOBB
05-11-2015, 11:09 PM
That MCW trade is looking great. Who needs a good PG what has huge reach and plays awesome defense when you can draft and hope.

Yeah you see him in the playoffs? Bucks got over on us big time. :cry:

Milbuck
05-11-2015, 11:11 PM
Yeah you see him in the playoffs? Bucks got over on us big time. :cry:
http://i.picasion.com/resize80/74526680e750cae064f263af86804e67.png

:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:

Milbuck
05-11-2015, 11:12 PM
Gobb lives for the lottery :oldlol:
:roll:

GOBB
05-11-2015, 11:15 PM
Gobb lives for the lottery :oldlol:

Considering my team has made it known they were starting from scratch why wouldnt I? You make a ton of sense there :rolleyes:

GOBB
05-11-2015, 11:45 PM
MCW 32mpg 42%FG 0%3pt 58%FT 12.2ppg 4.5rpb 4.8apg 2.7to 1.2spg in 6 games via playoffs

:roll:

We surely miss that guys. Cant find better in the draft. Nope, no way Go ahead UpChuck and play the "he was injured" card.

veilside23
05-12-2015, 12:01 AM
GO Wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give towns to wiggy.... and trade pek to another team that needs him :)

04mzwach
05-12-2015, 12:09 AM
I wonder how many more times my Timberwolves can get screwed in this lottery mess.
#1 pick this year, I wouldn't be mad at top 3 but I think we'll finally keep our spot and get that #1 pick!

04mzwach
05-12-2015, 12:10 AM
GO Wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give towns to wiggy.... and trade pek to another team that needs him :)
This sounds good to me. :cheers:

Fallen Angel
05-12-2015, 12:14 AM
Look at all these losers

Sportal
05-12-2015, 12:16 AM
GO Wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give towns to wiggy.... and trade pek to another team that needs him :)

I'm assuming there are seats available to support them before they become too good?

alec613
05-12-2015, 01:34 AM
Lakers pick 4-5 pick + Houston pick

For Philly 1-2 pick

Philly don't really need to get top 2 to get either Mudiay or Russel

Milbuck
05-12-2015, 01:38 AM
...
I don't speak lottery, sorry.

qrich
05-12-2015, 01:39 AM
Lakers pick 4-5 pick + Houston pick

For Philly 1-2 pick

Philly don't really need to get top 2 to get either Mudiay or Russel

Wow, that is atrocious for the 6ers.

5 + Randle for 1 still would get turned down.

NugzFan
05-12-2015, 01:41 AM
I wonder how many more times my Timberwolves can get screwed in this lottery mess.

How many times have the wolves been "screwed" in the lottery?

Serious question.

qrich
05-12-2015, 01:41 AM
So is Winslow a gamble, or...

Winslow is the safety net guy. The guy that will be ready to contribute without high potential. Probably the highest floor in the lottery, but definitely among the lowest ceilings.


How many times have the wolves been "screwed" in the lottery?

Serious question.

None, but they have messed up on draft night.

Back to back point guards @ #5 and #6.

Trading Brandon Roy's rights for Randy Foye's rights.

NattyPButter
05-12-2015, 04:59 AM
damn use to keep track of stuff like this.

R.I.P.
05-12-2015, 07:37 AM
:roll:

We surely miss that guys. Cant find better in the draft. Nope, no way Go ahead UpChuck and play the "he was injured" card.

So the long-term strategy of your team is based around tanking and drafting, and you brag about a player that your team picked in the lottery playing shitty basketball in the play-offs. :lol

Maybe you could brag, if your team picked Giannis, Schroeder or Gobert instead and actually had something to show for. :oldlol:

PJR
05-12-2015, 07:43 AM
How pissed are ya'll going to be when Miami jumps into the top three, and adds D'Angelo Russel to the core of Whiteside, Bosh, Wade, Deng, McRoberts, and Dragic?

ArbitraryWater
05-12-2015, 07:52 AM
I don't speak lottery.

GOBB
05-12-2015, 08:03 AM
So the long-term strategy of your team is based around tanking and drafting, and you brag about a player that your team picked in the lottery playing shitty basketball in the play-offs. :lol

Maybe you could brag, if your team picked Giannis, Schroeder or Gobert instead and actually had something to show for. :oldlol:

Your post makes zero sense. What are you even trying to say? Take your time.

GOBB
05-12-2015, 08:06 AM
How pissed are ya'll going to be when Miami jumps into the top three, and adds D'Angelo Russel to the core of Whiteside, Bosh, Wade, Deng, McRoberts, and Dragic?

Miami missed the playoffs. No one cares what they do anymore.

R.I.P.
05-12-2015, 10:00 AM
Your post makes zero sense. What are you even trying to say? Take your time.

That flew over your head, huh. Why am I not surprised. :lol

In order to become good via a tanking strategy you actually have to draft good players. Just rolling over mediocre draft picks for future picks doesn

poido123
05-12-2015, 10:03 AM
Miami missed the playoffs. No one cares what they do anymore.


Gobb and his team live for this event every year :oldlol:


Heard of winning games of basketball?

GOBB
05-12-2015, 10:17 AM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]That flew over your head, huh. Why am I not surprised. :lol

In order to become good via a tanking strategy you actually have to draft good players. Just rolling over mediocre draft picks for future picks doesn

GOBB
05-12-2015, 10:19 AM
Gobb and his team live for this event every year :oldlol:


Heard of winning games of basketball?

Sixers made the playoffs 4 years ago wit lesser talent than your heat. Your team lucked out to even keep that first rd pick.

el gringos
05-12-2015, 10:47 AM
How pissed are ya'll going to be when Miami jumps into the top three, and adds D'Angelo Russel to the core of Whiteside, Bosh, Wade, Deng, McRoberts, and Dragic?
Not as pissed as you'll be if one of the bottom 4 teams jumps into one of those spots and Miami loses their pick. The heat has a future nobody envies. Russell would be a great add and might stretch out the sinking ship but more than likely it's you that'll be pissed about a 5 year max deal for Dragic and missing half your draft picks over that time.

poido123
05-12-2015, 11:00 AM
Sixers made the playoffs 4 years ago wit lesser talent than your heat. Your team lucked out to even keep that first rd pick.


It's funny if Gobb knew which team i supported :oldlol:

GOBB
05-12-2015, 11:03 AM
It's funny if Gobb knew which team i supported :oldlol:

Is it the team my Sixer defeated in the first round? :lol

poido123
05-12-2015, 11:07 AM
Is it the team my Sixer defeated in the first round? :lol


what year? :lol

GOBB
05-12-2015, 11:10 AM
what year? :lol

The year Rose went down unfortunately. Figured you were a Heat or Bulls fan.

poido123
05-12-2015, 11:19 AM
The year Rose went down unfortunately. Figured you were a Heat or Bulls fan.


It's weird being called a Heat fan. I almost spat out my drink.


But seriously, you guys need to focus on winning this year. This stockpiling assets is getting beyond ridiculous. Leave some assets for the other teams will you?


:cheers:

PJR
05-12-2015, 11:53 AM
Not as pissed as you'll be if one of the bottom 4 teams jumps into one of those spots and Miami loses their pick. The heat has a future nobody envies. Russell would be a great add and might stretch out the sinking ship but more than likely it's you that'll be pissed about a 5 year max deal for Dragic and missing half your draft picks over that time.

Why would I be pissed about Dragic's deal when the salary cap is exploding to 90 million in 2016? Sit down.

T_L_P
05-12-2015, 11:55 AM
Hope Orlando gets a high pick.

The Lakers and Knicks are too dysfunctional to turn things around anytime soon.

Jameerthefear
05-12-2015, 05:39 PM
Hope Orlando gets a high pick.

The Lakers and Knicks are too dysfunctional to turn things around anytime soon.
:applause:

JellyBean
05-12-2015, 06:08 PM
My prediction for the lottery:

1. Wolves
2. Sixers
3. Magic
4. Knicks
5. Lakers

Neg poster above if I'm wrong.

That would be cool, if the Timberwolves got the #1 pick. However we have been screwed before.

KrizMiz
05-12-2015, 06:20 PM
Lakers at #5 - book it!

and conspiracy - thunker with #1

smoovegittar
05-12-2015, 07:00 PM
Hope Orlando gets a high pick.

The Lakers and Knicks are too dysfunctional to turn things around anytime soon.
Why would you want the Laker's farm team to get a pick? :confusedshrug:

outbreak
05-12-2015, 07:01 PM
Why would you want the Laker's farm team to get a pick? :confusedshrug:
He wants Houston to get the pick

smoovegittar
05-12-2015, 07:04 PM
He wants Houston to get the pick
Gottcha -

GOBB
05-18-2015, 07:14 AM
The time is near

imdaman99
05-18-2015, 07:21 AM
Can't wait. Let's see if PJackson brought any of that luck over http://clarkcountychatter.com/public/style_emoticons/default/frantics.gif

JellyBean
05-18-2015, 07:36 AM
One more day!! I am actually pretty excited to see how this lottery turns out. As a Timberwolves fan, I am just curious to see if we get screwed out of the #1 pick, again.

Dr.J4ever
05-18-2015, 07:45 AM
The time is near
1/6/11.......1/6/11........1/6/11......that is the prayer!

el gringos
05-18-2015, 10:03 AM
One more day!! I am actually pretty excited to see how this lottery turns out. As a Timberwolves fan, I am just curious to see if we get screwed out of the #1 pick, again.
Are you not understanding the odds? No team can get screwed out of, only can luck into. Minnesota deserves #4.

4 + Lavine + bjelica
For
1 + Calderon + Hardaway jr

el gringos
05-18-2015, 10:04 AM
1/6/11.......1/6/11........1/6/11......that is the prayer!
That's pretty close to the 5/6/11 prayer I have for you

Mudiay/Mario/Looney

coin24
05-18-2015, 10:09 AM
Let's go lakers!!!:cheers:

DukeDelonte13
05-18-2015, 10:12 AM
lottery story time.


I took my wife out for sushi on lottery night in 2013, which i believe was the Bennett lottery. Cavs won as we know.

Fast forward after one of the most f*cked up cavs seasons; Bennett was an epic bust, Cavs did well enough to just miss the playoffs, Deng was an assh*le, drama galore, etc.

I was dejected. I knew the cavs were going to wind up with the 9th or 10th pick or some BS like that. Regardless, I specially left work and took my wife out for sushi for lunch for some luck, and BAM cavs win in utterly ridiculous fashion.

Dr.J4ever
05-18-2015, 10:29 AM
That's pretty close to the 5/6/11 prayer I have for you

Mudiay/Mario/Looney

If we come away with Russel and Mario, we will be ushering a new era in 76ers basketball.

Imagine those two joining Embiid, Noel, then Saric, and role players Covington, Grant, and great cap space.

Looking good.:applause:

Rake2204
05-18-2015, 10:29 AM
I have a math question for you guys regarding the lottery: The Pistons are listed as having these chances at a first, second, or third overall pick: 2.8%, 3.26%, and 3.89%. I've seen some folks adding those up and saying "Wow, the Pistons have about a 9% chance of a top-3 pick."

However, each of those percentages are out of 100, yes? So overall, adding those percentages up (9.95), we'd have to then take it out of 300, right? For odds of around 3.3% of a top three pick?

I've seen both answers on various sources. The Free Press mentions the Pistons have a 3.3% chance at landing a Top 3 pick. Meanwhile, a writer on CBS Sports and SI both say the 9%.

NugzFan
05-18-2015, 11:14 AM
So if you have a 3.89% chance of picking third alone, explain how you would only have a 3.3% chance of picking top 3?

Of course you add them up.

Someone at the free press failed math in school.

Rake2204
05-18-2015, 11:27 AM
So if you have a 3.89% chance of picking third alone, explain how you would only have a 3.3% chance of picking top 3?

Of course you add them up.

Someone at the free press failed math in school.Percentage situations like this get weird for me, where there's numerous probabilities of landing one of three possible positions. And no, math is not always my strong suit, ha.

I initially thought the Free Press was right but then, like you said, I considered that'd mean, under their theory, the Timberwolves would somehow have less of a chance at a top-3 pick (around 21%) than they would have of number one (25%). Wouldn't make sense.

ISHGoat
05-18-2015, 11:32 AM
http://www.tankathon.com/

yes, pistons have a 9.9% chance of top 3, 2.8% first overall

el gringos
05-18-2015, 11:39 AM
Do the odds have anything to do with a winning teams chances being removed after they claim a spot? Does 3rd get drawn followed by 2 and 1 or is it 1,2,3?

wagexslave
05-18-2015, 11:50 AM
I wish they would balance the lottery more. Teams get rewarded too much for tanking earlier on in the season. I don't like the fact that you get rewarded so greatly for losing. It would be dope if everyone had the same chances of getting any pick 1-14 in the lottery, but that's never going to happen. So it would at least be nice if they gave the teams that have the lowest chances a bit of a boost and and the teams that have the best chances a bit of a decrease.

el gringos
05-18-2015, 12:01 PM
I wish they would balance the lottery more. Teams get rewarded too much for tanking earlier on in the season. I don't like the fact that you get rewarded so greatly for losing. It would be dope if everyone had the same chances of getting any pick 1-14 in the lottery, but that's never going to happen. So it would at least be nice if they gave the teams that have the lowest chances a bit of a boost and and the teams that have the best chances a bit of a decrease.
Kind of agree and kind of don't. As bad as it is to see bottom teams tanking it would be even more pathetic if it ever came to where a team tanked out of the 8 seed


Suns would be an interesting team to see grab a top 3 spot. Who do you think the suns would take at 2 or 3?

I really hope suns, jazz, or pacers win one of the picks

Rake2204
05-18-2015, 12:47 PM
I wish they would balance the lottery more. Teams get rewarded too much for tanking earlier on in the season. I don't like the fact that you get rewarded so greatly for losing. It would be dope if everyone had the same chances of getting any pick 1-14 in the lottery, but that's never going to happen. So it would at least be nice if they gave the teams that have the lowest chances a bit of a boost and and the teams that have the best chances a bit of a decrease.I kind of think the lottery almost balances itself. The number one pick is not guaranteed to the worst team and as has been illustrated time and time again, the Sure Things are wildly outnumbered by the relative mystery selections or backfires.

I sort of agree with Adam Silver on this one so far. Philadelphia exploding their team and running with a mix of D-Leaguers and a slowly emerging unit of lottery talent is a legal means of attempted team building. It won't yield guaranteed success and it may not even yield the talent for which they desire (recent number two picks include Marvin Williams, Derrick Williams, Darko Milicic, and Evan Turner, for instance) but that's kind of their choice to make (risking things a little by decimating their roster for a few years).

The worst teams may have the best chances of getting first dibs, but it doesn't always lead to results.

wagexslave
05-18-2015, 12:50 PM
Kind of agree and kind of don't. As bad as it is to see bottom teams tanking it would be even more pathetic if it ever came to where a team tanked out of the 8 seed


Suns would be an interesting team to see grab a top 3 spot. Who do you think the suns would take at 2 or 3?

I really hope suns, jazz, or pacers win one of the picks
As much as I would love to see the Suns move up, I haven't even considered it happening as a realistic possibility. They've had such pathetic luck in the lottery for as long as I've remembered. Hell, in 2013 they were #4 in chances the lottery and instead of moving up they moved DOWN to #5. :facepalm

I wish I could tell you who I think they'd take, but I simply don't know much about these players since I haven't watched or paid much attention to college basketball. I'll probably learn more about them closer to the actual draft. But right now I admittedly don't know what I'm talking about. :hammerhead: They need help at PF pretty badly though, and with the Morris twins' situation they're probably going to need help at SF too.

BuffaloBill
05-18-2015, 03:07 PM
I have a math question for you guys regarding the lottery: The Pistons are listed as having these chances at a first, second, or third overall pick: 2.8%, 3.26%, and 3.89%. I've seen some folks adding those up and saying "Wow, the Pistons have about a 9% chance of a top-3 pick."

However, each of those percentages are out of 100, yes? So overall, adding those percentages up (9.95), we'd have to then take it out of 300, right? For odds of around 3.3% of a top three pick?

I've seen both answers on various sources. The Free Press mentions the Pistons have a 3.3% chance at landing a Top 3 pick. Meanwhile, a writer on CBS Sports and SI both say the 9%.


The only reason why I think you're equation won't work is because you don't consider the fact that once a team gets a pick, all of their combinations are removed. So when Minnesota is drawn, 25% of the combinations are dropped (that's 250 out of 1000 combinations), which drastically increases the next teams chance to get the next pick. So if your combination isn't drawn, your chances increase. That's where that 9% comes from I believe. Instead of taking it out of 300, you only take it out of 100 because the number of combinations doesn't increase, but your chances to win do.


That's how I see it at least

Pointguard
05-18-2015, 03:37 PM
Do the odds have anything to do with a winning teams chances being removed after they claim a spot? Does 3rd get drawn followed by 2 and 1 or is it 1,2,3?
Good question. But the way they present it, it seems like after the 1st place is picked all the other balls stay in the lottery even for that same team. and if they win again, they just keep going til another team comes up. But you are right, the way it is presented you would think that they even replace the ball that wins and keep all the balls in circulation. Or it just that my limited math can't break it down any better.

ApexPredator
05-18-2015, 03:49 PM
NBA will probably find a way to give this to the Cavs again.

Rake2204
05-18-2015, 03:57 PM
Good question. But the way they present it, it seems like after the 1st place is picked all the other balls stay in the lottery even for that same team. and if they win again, they just keep going til another team comes up. But you are right, the way it is presented you would think that they even replace the ball that wins and keep all the balls in circulation. Or it just that my limited math can't break it down any better.I may be able to help on this front. The ping-pong balls are not actually "team" balls.

Rather, there's fourteen ping-pong balls numbered 1 through 14. Four balls are then removed one-by-one, creating a four-number set. For instance, a random result could be something along the lines of [2, 11, 6, 3].

There are 1,001 number set possibilities in this particular event. As such, each team, in accordance to their record, receives a percentage of those possibilities beforehand (the Timberwolves, for instance, would have 250 possibilities, representing their 25% chance of earning the number one pick).

As you may guess, whoever has the specifically ordered set of [2, 11, 6, 3] in this scenario will have won the first overall pick. The ping-pong balls are then placed back in the lottery machine and the process is repeated for picks two and three, before the rest of the lottery simply follows the "worst record" procedure (so the first three picks are the only real "lottery" selections).

bluechox2
05-18-2015, 04:03 PM
honestly i want deangelo and sign some vetern bigs...same way rondo was brought up. trade down to the 3 if we get 1 or 2

outbreak
05-18-2015, 04:05 PM
honestly i want deangelo and sign some vetern bigs...same way rondo was brought up. trade down to the 3 if we get 1 or 2
Sign and trade tobias Harris and andrew nicholson/harkless for orlandos pick 3.

el gringos
05-18-2015, 06:56 PM
honestly i want deangelo and sign some vetern bigs...same way rondo was brought up. trade down to the 3 if we get 1 or 2
Towns + Hardaway jr + thanasis
For
Russell + Lavine + bjelica

outbreak
05-18-2015, 07:02 PM
Towns + Hardaway jr + thanasis
For
Russell + Lavine + bjelica
:biggums:

Towns > Russel
Hardaway JNR > Lavine
Thanasis > Bjelica

GOBB
05-18-2015, 07:39 PM
1/6/11.......1/6/11........1/6/11......that is the prayer!

My prediction. Sixers land #2 overall pick. No Mia or LAL pick

bluechox2
05-18-2015, 07:46 PM
Towns + Hardaway jr + thanasis
For
Russell + Lavine + bjelica

id rather do a 2 for one deal...#1 pick should get you 2 picks

a number 3 and another lower pick to stock some talent

GOBB
05-18-2015, 07:57 PM
lottery story time.


I took my wife out for sushi on lottery night in 2013, which i believe was the Bennett lottery. Cavs won as we know.

Fast forward after one of the most f*cked up cavs seasons; Bennett was an epic bust, Cavs did well enough to just miss the playoffs, Deng was an assh*le, drama galore, etc.

I was dejected. I knew the cavs were going to wind up with the 9th or 10th pick or some BS like that. Regardless, I specially left work and took my wife out for sushi for lunch for some luck, and BAM cavs win in utterly ridiculous fashion.

So i need to wife a female up, take her out for sushi before tomorrows lottery is done? :lol

Jameerthefear
05-18-2015, 07:58 PM
russel come here
come here
orlando wants u

niko
05-18-2015, 08:02 PM
So i need to wife a female up, take her out for sushi before tomorrows lottery is done? :lol
That's an awful lot to do for a player you'll have traded by the end of draft night.

GOBB
05-18-2015, 08:05 PM
That's an awful lot to do for a player you'll have traded by the end of draft night.

We traded Noel? We traded Embiid? Silly niko, silly :no:

:pimp:

outbreak
05-18-2015, 08:33 PM
russel come here
come here
orlando wants u

Nah we are getting the number one pick and taking towns.

el gringos
05-18-2015, 09:36 PM
:biggums:

Towns > Russel
Hardaway JNR > Lavine
Thanasis > Bjelica
I would disagree on 2 out of 3, but was thinking the value would be close. Maybe Calderon and pekovic could be thrown in there.


Russell/shved
Lavine
Carmelo
Bjelica
Bargnani/pekovic


+ a great fa class

Clyde
05-18-2015, 10:08 PM
russel come here
come here
orlando wants u

So do you punt dipo or elf?

plowking
05-18-2015, 10:22 PM
Heat about to get that number 1 pick. This is going to be good.

FireMcFailPlease
05-18-2015, 10:27 PM
i think tomorrow night is the night the wolves pick 1st overall!

Jameerthefear
05-18-2015, 10:28 PM
So do you punt dipo or elf?
Neither.

el gringos
05-18-2015, 11:55 PM
Neither.
Which of those 3 would you bring off the bench then?


Orlando obviously would be a terrible situation for Russell the individual player compared to if he got picked by New York or Philadelphia.

Jameerthefear
05-18-2015, 11:58 PM
Which of those 3 would you bring off the bench then?


Orlando obviously would be a terrible situation for Russell the individual player compared to if he got picked by New York or Philadelphia.
russel.

not a terrible situation in the least. if you have to run a 3 guard lineup do it. if russel is the BPA take him. idc about fit right now.

J Shuttlesworth
05-18-2015, 11:58 PM
Too bad they didn't have it tonight instead since there aren't any games on

veilside23
05-19-2015, 12:42 AM
i think tomorrow night is the night the wolves pick 1st overall!

this! and they should do the best thing ! Get Towns.

outbreak
05-19-2015, 12:52 AM
russel.

not a terrible situation in the least. if you have to run a 3 guard lineup do it. if russel is the BPA take him. idc about fit right now.

I still think the top four will be towns, okafor, russell, mudiay. So if we land at 3 or 4 maybe we take russell but 1 or 2 and I'd want towns or okafor. At 5 I think Winslow or Porzingis/Mario will be the best available.

Achilleas
05-19-2015, 12:53 AM
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Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 12:55 AM
I still think the top four will be towns, okafor, russell, mudiay. So if we land at 3 or 4 maybe we take russell but 1 or 2 and I'd want towns or okafor. At 5 I think Winslow or Porzingis/Mario will be the best available.
if we pick okafor i hope we trade down. i think it's strange how people expect winslow to be playing the 3 in the NBA. i think he's kind of weird... not sure about him with his measurements

Clyde
05-19-2015, 12:58 AM
if we pick okafor i hope we trade down. i think it's strange how people expect winslow to be playing the 3 in the NBA. i think he's kind of weird... not sure about him with his measurements



Id take justice winslow over russle with our current roster.

veilside23
05-19-2015, 12:59 AM
^^ winslow will be fine.. 19 years old and plays like jimmy butler... Its not hard to find a place for him...

I wonder why you want russell since you have payton already. I understand that Russell is more of a combo guard but he isnt really known for his defense..

just imagine having a trio of winslow, payton and oladipo. Damn.. you just hope that gordon would be able to play that stretch four perfectly and vucevic ... exciting if it unfolds the best way possible.

outbreak
05-19-2015, 01:00 AM
if we pick okafor i hope we trade down. i think it's strange how people expect winslow to be playing the 3 in the NBA. i think he's kind of weird... not sure about him with his measurements
He's Paul Pierce size. He also played the 4 at times in college so he can go against bigger guys (not that he'd go against NBA 4's but I mean bigger small forwards). He looks like he's a wing who can fit in wherever and from what I've heard of him in interviews he's happy to do whatever is required (which hennigan will love)

el gringos
05-19-2015, 01:05 AM
russel.

not a terrible situation in the least. if you have to run a 3 guard lineup do it. if russel is the BPA take him. idc about fit right now.
Of course you take the bpa. And you do need 3 guards. Good for Orlando, I just meant bad for Russell himself. For his own development and stature

FreezingTsmoove
05-19-2015, 01:36 AM
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/philadelphia-76ers-lottery-nba-draft-odds

Holy shit. Imagine that.

If my Big Board is correct the 76ers would get

1. Mudiay
2. WCS or Justice Winslow
3. Kelly Oubre

if the pundits Big Board is correct the 76ers would get

1. Towns
2. WCS (although I see him getting picked top 5)
3. Myles Turner


GG Lebron. If Silver wants the East to stop being so weak, rig this shit for the 76ers. Don't give the Lakers a chance at making the West even stronger

veilside23
05-19-2015, 02:11 AM
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/philadelphia-76ers-lottery-nba-draft-odds

Holy shit. Imagine that.

If my Big Board is correct the 76ers would get

1. Mudiay
2. WCS or Justice Winslow
3. Kelly Oubre

if the pundits Big Board is correct the 76ers would get

1. Towns
2. WCS (although I see him getting picked top 5)
3. Myles Turner


GG Lebron. If Silver wants the East to stop being so weak, rig this shit for the 76ers. Don't give the Lakers a chance at making the West even stronger

if this happens and embiid stays healthy as well as noel

Damn...

canaan
mudiay
winslow
noel
embiid

dynasty :D

fiddy
05-19-2015, 02:13 AM
shit is nerve wrecking, just want the lottery to be over and Lakers with the #1 pick already :D

FreezingTsmoove
05-19-2015, 02:17 AM
if this happens and embiid stays healthy as well as noel

Damn...

canaan
mudiay
winslow
noel
embiid

dynasty :D

are you kidding me? Mudiay would shit on Canaan so hard in practice he would lose all confidence and probably be benched or cut from the team before the season starts. No way he even sniffs starting over Mudiay.

Look at Westbrook when he had Nate Robinson on his team. One of the only teams in his career he was a 12th man

el gringos
05-19-2015, 02:20 AM
If Silver wants the East to stop being so weak
Then they'd put ny, Indiana, and Orlando in the top 3. Teams that actually have a chance to make a big jump up, ESP w another guy. Give Philly 5,6, and 11. Mudiay, Mario, booker would be crazy

FreezingTsmoove
05-19-2015, 02:22 AM
Then they'd put ny, Indiana, and Orlando in the top 3. Teams that actually have a chance to make a big jump up, ESP w another guy. Give Philly 5,6, and 11. Mudiay, Mario, booker would be crazy

Mudiay isnt dropping to 5, he's going top 2-3. 1st overall if 76ers win the lottery

el gringos
05-19-2015, 02:33 AM
Mudiay isnt dropping to 5, he's going top 2-3. 1st overall if 76ers win the lottery
Wow. Hope you are right. Hope he is that good. I'm not disagreeing with you, more like an incomplete grade then it is saying he's not a top 2--3 pick.


I love seeing personal opinion on here. So rare- usually it's just follow the crowd. Kind of like how it was 100% okafor #1, now you can't even find anyone saying okafor because now it's close to a "lock" that it's towns.


I like the fit of mudiay to 76'rs a lot. Because I don't think embiid is anywhere near the #1 scoring option yet needed to make Russell the right fit. So I think it needs to be a more aggressive w the ball guy like mudiay. Russell will fit best IMO as a guy playing off of Carmelo

FreezingTsmoove
05-19-2015, 02:38 AM
Wow. Hope you are right. Hope he is that good. I'm not disagreeing with you, more like an incomplete grade then it is saying he's not a top 2--3 pick.


I love seeing personal opinion on here. So rare- usually it's just follow the crowd. Kind of like how it was 100% okafor #1, now you can't even find anyone saying okafor because now it's close to a "lock" that it's towns.


I like the fit of mudiay to 76'rs a lot. Because I don't think embiid is anywhere near the #1 scoring option yet needed to make Russell the right fit. So I think it needs to be a more aggressive w the ball guy like mudiay. Russell will fit best IMO as a guy playing off of Carmelo


People fall in love with Bigs too much but I agree with Karl Towns going 1st overall. He's a modern day Tim Duncan who instead of a mid range jumpshot will hit a lot of 3's, great post skills potential , and a lockdown anchor potential. I think Jahlil is an above average player to be honest, in a top 6 class filled with all stars.

Mudiay is the type of player you make in 2K. A 6'5 very athletic PG, with quickness, elite playmaking potential, lockdown defender potential, and a jumpshot that can only get better while you progress throughout your career. He's only 18 and way shorter than his dad (who was 6'10 but died in the Congo) he might even have Magic Johnson potential if he grows a little more

Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 07:26 AM
^^ winslow will be fine.. 19 years old and plays like jimmy butler... Its not hard to find a place for him...

I wonder why you want russell since you have payton already. I understand that Russell is more of a combo guard but he isnt really known for his defense..

just imagine having a trio of winslow, payton and oladipo. Damn.. you just hope that gordon would be able to play that stretch four perfectly and vucevic ... exciting if it unfolds the best way possible.
winslow is 6'4 and a half. I don't really know if you can put him at the 3 full time.

Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 07:27 AM
He's Paul Pierce size. He also played the 4 at times in college so he can go against bigger guys (not that he'd go against NBA 4's but I mean bigger small forwards). He looks like he's a wing who can fit in wherever and from what I've heard of him in interviews he's happy to do whatever is required (which hennigan will love)
Paul Pierce is 6'6 without shoes.
Winslow is 6'4.5 without shoes. Pretty big difference.

Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 07:28 AM
Of course you take the bpa. And you do need 3 guards. Good for Orlando, I just meant bad for Russell himself. For his own development and stature
Meh. I think we could make it work.

Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 07:30 AM
Mudiay isnt dropping to 5, he's going top 2-3. 1st overall if 76ers win the lottery
idk about that. they'll either trade down or just keep towns. they're not gonna be drafting mudiay first

midatlantic09
05-19-2015, 09:52 AM
winslow is 6'4 and a half. I don't really know if you can put him at the 3 full time.

Almost all NBA small forwards are 1-2 inches SHORTER than their listed height. Keep that in mind.

A guy's listed at 6'7? He's probably 6'5/6'5 1/2 barefoot. That said, Winslow isn't that undersized.

SugarHill
05-19-2015, 09:57 AM
What's so good about Towns lmao

GOBB
05-19-2015, 09:59 AM
Mudiay isnt dropping to 5, he's going top 2-3. 1st overall if 76ers win the lottery


Sixers would never take him #1 overall. You're so wrong it's not even funny

Xiao Yao You
05-19-2015, 10:01 AM
Almost all NBA small forwards are 1-2 inches SHORTER than their listed height. Keep that in mind.

A guy's listed at 6'7? He's probably 6'5/6'5 1/2 barefoot. That said, Winslow isn't that undersized.

His height isn't that important. All about the length.

alec613
05-19-2015, 10:23 AM
76ers will trade down for Mudiay/Russel

QuebecBaller
05-19-2015, 10:44 AM
Will we have a battle of the daughters this year?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/21/article-2635559-1E158E0100000578-254_1024x615_large.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/kings/sites/default/files/draftallaccess_website.jpg

SugarHill
05-19-2015, 10:49 AM
battle of the daughters the best part of the lottery

UK2K
05-19-2015, 10:50 AM
Wow. Hope you are right. Hope he is that good. I'm not disagreeing with you, more like an incomplete grade then it is saying he's not a top 2--3 pick.


I love seeing personal opinion on here. So rare- usually it's just follow the crowd. Kind of like how it was 100% okafor #1, now you can't even find anyone saying okafor because now it's close to a "lock" that it's towns.


I like the fit of mudiay to 76'rs a lot. Because I don't think embiid is anywhere near the #1 scoring option yet needed to make Russell the right fit. So I think it needs to be a more aggressive w the ball guy like mudiay. Russell will fit best IMO as a guy playing off of Carmelo

You do remember when I called Towns would be #1 in January right? And everyone said I was crazy, and that my opinion changed of him in one month?

Yeah I remember that too.

:cheers:

UK2K
05-19-2015, 10:51 AM
What's so good about Towns lmao

He's 7ft tall. Super fast. Plays B defense, has an A- offensive game. Super teammate. Humble. Makes his free throws. Avoids foul trouble. Has great vision. Has solid range.

Oh and hes 18.

Other than all that, nothing.

SugarHill
05-19-2015, 10:55 AM
He's 7ft tall. Super fast. Plays B defense, has an A- offensive game. Super teammate. Humble. Makes his free throws. Avoids foul trouble. Has great vision. Has solid range.

Oh and hes 18.

Other than all that, nothing.
What? Everything I heard says his defense is better than his offense and how his offense isn't polished at all.

UK2K
05-19-2015, 11:02 AM
What? Everything I heard says his defense is better than his offense and how his offense isn't polished at all.

You heard wrong.


Strengths: Center prospect with the size and skill set to make a strong impact at both ends of the floor in the NBA ... Hard worker, smart kid, with strength of character ... Shows desire and a competitive nature ... Possesses a great feel for the game ... Offensive game oozes potential with a text book shooting form, great touch and ability to hit outside and mid range jumpers effortlessly and consistently ... Has even implemented a steadily improving hook shot into his repertoire ... His length and strong body gives him excellent ability to rebound and hold position in the post ... Tremendous rebounder on a per 40 minute basis, with big hands, good box out fundamentals, post positioning and energy ... Has worked hard on his body and has developed broad shoulders and good strength ... Should be able to add additional weight and play comfortably in the 260-270 range ... Shows a willingness to play physical and fight in the post ... Terrific passer, good vision, he's able to find players when doubled, and even have the offense run through him at the high post ... Very good shot blocker. Though not a huge leaper, has excellent timing and shows the ability to use his great length as a rim protector ... Shows better speed than quickness, and can really motor once he gets a head of steam ... Hustles and shows the willingness to defend and play hard ... Underrated foot speed and perimeter defensive ability ... Doesn't seem to get winded easily, though the UK platoon system helps in this area ... Has shown the ability to defend players much smaller than himself with success on the perimeter ...


Basically, everything I said.

04mzwach
05-19-2015, 11:09 AM
Not like Porzingis is bad, but if the Wolves take a chance on something like him then I'll be upset with the Wolves. Euro talent can be really good but sometimes they're complete busts.

Eric Cartman
05-19-2015, 01:18 PM
Not like Porzingis is bad, but if the Wolves take a chance on something like him then I'll be upset with the Wolves. Euro talent can be really good but sometimes they're complete busts.
What about Hezonja?

midatlantic09
05-19-2015, 01:27 PM
Towns = Al Horford

That said, if you want a true franchise player, Okafor and Russell are the guys you want.

Jameerthefear
05-19-2015, 05:04 PM
Almost all NBA small forwards are 1-2 inches SHORTER than their listed height. Keep that in mind.

A guy's listed at 6'7? He's probably 6'5/6'5 1/2 barefoot. That said, Winslow isn't that undersized.
ok that's great.
but if winslow is 6'4 and a half barefoot and everyone else is 2 inches taller barefoot that isn't a good thing