Racist or Just calling out a troublesome religion?

[poido123]

Are we a racist because we speak out against child abuse? women opression? hate speeches? sharia enforcement? etc etc


Why does the world sit back and allow this vermin to cancer through each country and cause problems wherever they go? Are there the same problems with Buddhists? Hindhus? Christians? Atheists? Are they sucking off the welfare and demanding rights and turning their nose up at adopting our customs and way of life?



I am not a racist and I don't stand for religious groups like Muslims trying to take over every country they occupy and condemn everything that country provides to them. Look at towns in France, there are now no go zones because whole communities have opened the floodgates to this troubled religion and their people.

We are at war with them, why do government's bend over backwards for them?

Give it less than 50 years, France and England will be absolutely ruined. These people do not integrate, they conquer and dominate. They manipulate laws and governments and eventually establish their will.

Don't believe me? Give it less than 20 years and you'll already see how f.cked up it can get. Western society should be making a strong stance and treating this with the utmost urgency.


We are looking at a Nazi genocide all over again if it isn't stopped. I don't mean to offend those who are Jewish, just trying to draw a similarity in the movement of the Nazis.

[JerrySeinfeld]

poido i agree with you my man.

in most cases these religions are just masking hatred in the form of a label that is socially accepted, which is whatever religion that is.

christians, muslims, **** who cares, they all have killed lots of people but I guess its okay because we're overpopulated as is, we just need to find ways to redirect their hatred and let them kill eachother, you catchin' my drift?

[Akrazotile]

Are we a racist because we speak out against child abuse? women opression? hate speeches? sharia enforcement? etc etc


Why does the world sit back and allow this vermin to cancer through each country and cause problems wherever they go? Are there the same problems with Buddhists? Hindhus? Christians? Atheists? Are they sucking off the welfare and demanding rights and turning their nose up at adopting our customs and way of life?



I am not a racist and I don't stand for religious groups like Muslims trying to take over every country they occupy and condemn everything that country provides to them. Look at towns in France, there are now no go zones because whole communities have opened the floodgates to this troubled religion and their people.

We are at war with them, why do government's bend over backwards for them?

Give it less than 50 years, France and England will be absolutely ruined. These people do not integrate, they conquer and dominate. They manipulate laws and governments and eventually establish their will.

Don't believe me? Give it less than 20 years and you'll already see how f.cked up it can get. Western society should be making a strong stance and treating this with the utmost urgency.


We are looking at a Nazi genocide all over again if it isn't stopped. I don't mean to offend those who are Jewish, just trying to draw a similarity in the movement of the Nazis.



Because in every western country, there are a number of beta males who are at the way bottom of the social/masculinity totem pole. They don't resent Muslims because Muslims are not the cause of their angst. It is their better-off countrymen and peers who are the cause of their angst.

So they use excessive liberalism and tolerance as a way to 'stick it' to the arrogant traditionalists whom they resent and envy. They want to see the big dog on the block vexed and taken down a peg, even at the expense of their own freakin country. They want to feel like they're the ones calling the shots and making the policy. And in a traditional world they're the nobodies, so they have to go to the other side of the spectrum to get some influence.

And of course, as always, monied interests will find a way to feed off and manipulate this natural rift for its own gain. Governments would rather citizens be fighting amongst themselves than united against the government. So the betas are a very useful tool, and that's why they're fed tolerance propaganda through the media.

Betas stay beta. Easily shepherded sheep.

[poido123]

poido i agree with you my man.

in most cases these religions are just masking hatred in the form of a label that is socially accepted, which is whatever religion that is.

christians, muslims, **** who cares, they all have killed lots of people but I guess its okay because we're overpopulated as is, we just need to find ways to redirect their hatred and let them kill eachother, you catchin' my drift?


Russia needs to get in on this shit.

Americans would be wise to back off them and let them exterminate the Middle east

[Akrazotile]

Because in every western country, there are a number of beta males who are at the way bottom of the social/masculinity totem pole. They don't resent Muslims because Muslims are not the cause of their angst. It is their better-off countrymen and peers who are the cause of their angst.

So they use excessive liberalism and tolerance as a way to 'stick it' to the arrogant traditionalists whom they resent and envy. They want to see the big dog on the block vexed and taken down a peg, even at the expense of their own freakin country. They want to feel like they're the ones calling the shots and making the policy. And in a traditional world they're the nobodies, so they have to go to the other side of the spectrum to get some influence.

And of course, as always, monied interests will find a way to feed off and manipulate this natural rift for its own gain. Governments would rather citizens be fighting amongst themselves than united against the government. So the betas are a very useful tool, and that's why they're fed tolerance propaganda through the media.

Betas stay beta. Easily shepherded sheep.


By the way if you want to know literally the exact poster child for this, he's right here on this forum. Goes by the name of 'Deucewallaces.'


Takes his social inferiority complex out on his own country :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[JerrySeinfeld]

the main thing I wonder through all of this is what has africa been doing for like the last couple hundred thousand years?

spanish white man exploring shit
chinese having intense decade long dynasty battles and wars
americans rising up from the british

africans just like "nah yall go fight the bad guys, shit, I'll stay here in my mud hut and smoke some of that good...." :oldlol:

russians though.... we just need to fill the empty land of russia with the religious people, and then the religious ****tards start getting pissy and fighting with eachother forcing the russians to do clean up duty :oldlol:

[Akrazotile]

the main thing I wonder through all of this is what has africa been doing for like the last couple hundred thousand years?

spanish white man exploring shit
chinese having intense decade long dynasty battles and wars
americans rising up from the british

africans just like "nah yall go fight the bad guys, shit, I'll stay here in my mud hut and smoke some of that good...." :oldlol:

russians though.... we just need to fill the empty land of russia with the religious people, and then the religious ****tards start getting pissy and fighting with eachother forcing the russians to do clean up duty :oldlol:


The reality is, most people are religious. Even the ones who think they aren't. There'd be very few people left outside of Russia if you did this.

[JerrySeinfeld]

The reality is, most people are religious. Even the ones who think they aren't. There'd be very few people left outside of Russia if you did this.

thats fine. i'm cool with going back to the days of stumbling upon land and claiming it as your own and building shit on it

[poido123]

Because in every western country, there are a number of beta males who are at the way bottom of the social/masculinity totem pole. They don't resent Muslims because Muslims are not the cause of their angst. It is their better-off countrymen and peers who are the cause of their angst.

So they use excessive liberalism and tolerance as a way to 'stick it' to the arrogant traditionalists whom they resent and envy. They want to see the big dog on the block vexed and taken down a peg, even at the expense of their own freakin country. They want to feel like they're the ones calling the shots and making the policy. And in a traditional world they're the nobodies, so they have to go to the other side of the spectrum to get some influence.

And of course, as always, monied interests will find a way to feed off and manipulate this natural rift for its own gain. Governments would rather citizens be fighting amongst themselves than united against the government. So the betas are a very useful tool, and that's why they're fed tolerance propaganda through the media.

Betas stay beta. Easily shepherded sheep.


Interesting you mention the money. Organisations like ISIS who are heavily funded can throw a dog a bone and greedy f.ckers will take it. Even if it's as small as pushing a new law or passing legislation in parliament, these cunning f.ckers ISIS/Islam will find cracks in the wall so to speak.


People need to understand, ISIS = Islam, Islam is ISIS.

Don't let their deflection tactics fool you, they are using leftists and greedy f.cks to get what they ultimately want.

People need to WAKE UP.

I liken this to a frog in the blender experiment. Pour warm water into the blender and the frog won't move. Pour hot water and the frog will flip out and move drastically.


Same as people. We are conditioned to react to major events. Not ones that slowly creep up on us.


The most dangerous method they are using is concealment. They only do enough not to draw the government into action, but also piggy back the leftists who support the "cry me a river" mentality. If it wasn't for the world's troubled history with racism, genocide and slavery, I don't think there would be so many leftists out there trying to balance everything.

The world is trapped by it's own political correctness. Everything is now predicated on what has happened in the past. We don't look at this as an isolated issue, but draw past events and experiences into it.

[Akrazotile]

thats fine. i'm cool with going back to the days of stumbling upon land and claiming it as your own and building shit on it


That'd be pretty sweet.

[JerrySeinfeld]

That'd be pretty sweet.

lol but it's weird when nikkas start stumbling upon part of your property line and start claiming it is as theirs

thats when you need a law to establish order however i am 100% in favor of anarchy, I would just have to build up a castle to defend myself in

[Akrazotile]

lol but it's weird when nikkas start stumbling upon part of your property line and start claiming it is as theirs

thats when you need a law to establish order however i am 100% in favor of anarchy, I would just have to build up a castle to defend myself in


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UbiB-S8DBKw/hqdefault.jpg

War is coming. Will you be my hero?

[Nick Young]

the main thing I wonder through all of this is what has africa been doing for like the last couple hundred thousand years?

spanish white man exploring shit
chinese having intense decade long dynasty battles and wars
americans rising up from the british

africans just like "nah yall go fight the bad guys, shit, I'll stay here in my mud hut and smoke some of that good...." :oldlol:

russians though.... we just need to fill the empty land of russia with the religious people, and then the religious ****tards start getting pissy and fighting with eachother forcing the russians to do clean up duty :oldlol:
Africa had Egypt and Carthage. Egypt was on top for awhile. I guess Africa just peaked early?:confusedshrug:

[poido123]

Poor France.


Natives are feeling intimidated by these Islamic communities which have sprouted up from floodgates opening.


England is on the same downward spiral. War is happening people. They want to conquer the Kafhirr/Dhimmi or whatever other label we get, and punish us in the name of Allah

[SugarHill]

http://www.troll.me/images/stryker/commence-the-circlejerk-thumb.jpg

[poido123]

http://www.troll.me/images/stryker/commence-the-circlejerk-thumb.jpg




Too beta.



Lift your game or don't jerk at all.

[Dresta]

Russia needs to get in on this shit.

Americans would be wise to back off them and let them exterminate the Middle east
This is what i've been saying for a while. Instead of making Russia into the big-bad, and Putin into the new bogeyman, for reasons of political propaganda (hating Russians is surprisingly popular - i guess because they're white), we should be working together over this Islamist menace, which is something they have far more experience dealing with than we.

The Russians understand the Middle East 100x better than the Americans do, and that's why Putin backed Assad (and knew the truth about the rebels from the start), and were highly critical of the Iraq debacle. If the Russians had been listened to rather than Americans, the world would right now be a place with far less suffering, misery and strife, and that hurts the egos of poor saps like KevNYC.

Thus, Putin = evil monster, and 'come save the day Obama just by selling everyone lots of highly destructive weapons!!' (without giving the consequences a second's thought; it be either 'right' or 'wrong', 'good' and 'bad'; sorry chumps, but international relations has never and will never work in such a simplistic binary way - people need to stop being so naive).


edit: i should also say, that what a lot of apologists ignore is the duplicity of early Islam (something many are now taking as a model) which said 'when weak, preach peace; when strong, wage war.'


The primary Quranic verse sanctioning deception with respect to non-Muslims states: "Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah – unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions." (Quran 3:28; see also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 22:78; 40:28.)

Al-Tabari's (838-923 AD) Tafsir, or Quranic exegeses, is essentially a standard reference in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he wrote: "If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harbouring inner animosity for them... Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers – except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them."

Regarding 3:28, the Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir (1301-1373) wrote: "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil, may protect himself through outward show."

As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's companions. Abu Darda said: "Let us smile to the face of some people while our hearts curse them." Al-Hassan said: "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the day of judgment [in perpetuity]."

[poido123]

This is what i've been saying for a while. Instead of making Russia into the big-bad, and Putin into the new bogeyman, for reasons of political propaganda (hating Russians is surprisingly popular - i guess because they're white), we should be working together over this Islamist menace, which is something they have far more experience dealing with than we.

The Russians understand the Middle East 100x better than the Americans do, and that's why Putin backed Assad (and knew the truth about the rebels from the start), and were highly critical of the Iraq debacle. If the Russians had been listened to rather than Americans, the world would right now be a place with far less suffering, misery and strife, and that hurts the egos of poor saps like KevNYC.

Thus, Putin = evil monster, and 'come save the day Obama just by selling everyone lots of highly destructive weapons!!' (without giving the consequences a second's thought; it be either 'right' or 'wrong', 'good' and 'bad'; sorry chumps, but international relations has never and will never work in such a simplistic binary way - people need to stop being so naive).


edit: i should also say, that what a lot of apologists ignore is the duplicity of early Islam (something many are now taking as a model) which said 'when weak, preach peace; when strong, wage war.'



American interests have their hands in many pies financially IMO.

I find it hard to believe that America couldn't simply wipe out the problem, if that's what they truly wanted. Someone is making money off this ISIS uprising.

I'm looking at you gun corporations :lol

America doesn't like Russia because Russia calls America's bluff and corruption. That's why I think they won;t get along.

[gigantes]

Are we a racist because we speak out against child abuse? women opression? hate speeches? sharia enforcement? etc etc


Why does the world sit back and allow this vermin to cancer through each country and cause problems wherever they go? Are there the same problems with Buddhists? Hindhus? Christians? Atheists? Are they sucking off the welfare and demanding rights and turning their nose up at adopting our customs and way of life?



I am not a racist and I don't stand for religious groups like Muslims trying to take over every country they occupy and condemn everything that country provides to them. Look at towns in France, there are now no go zones because whole communities have opened the floodgates to this troubled religion and their people.

We are at war with them, why do government's bend over backwards for them?

Give it less than 50 years, France and England will be absolutely ruined. These people do not integrate, they conquer and dominate. They manipulate laws and governments and eventually establish their will.

Don't believe me? Give it less than 20 years and you'll already see how f.cked up it can get. Western society should be making a strong stance and treating this with the utmost urgency.


We are looking at a Nazi genocide all over again if it isn't stopped. I don't mean to offend those who are Jewish, just trying to draw a similarity in the movement of the Nazis.
what in god's holy name are you blathering about?

creeping sharia or the spread of religion or some shit like that...?

[poido123]

what in god's holy name are you blathering about?

creeping sharia or the spread of religion or some shit like that...?


Keep up.

It's not rocket science. Others in this thread have caught on to what I was saying..

[gigantes]

Keep up.

It's not rocket science. Others in this thread have caught on to what I was saying..
meh. the average thread here is filled with endless segues, assumptions, misinformation and convolutions.

what simple thoughts are you actually trying to express here?

[poido123]

meh. the average thread here is filled with endless segues, assumptions, misinformation and convolutions.

what simple thoughts are you actually trying to express here?



Simple works. Complications f.ck up


World is under threat of Muslim takeover and religious ideology gone wrong.

No different to the Nazi genocide trajectory.

You see it in France, you see it in England, you see it in some scandanavian countries like Sweden.

This is an opportunist religious cult which is spreading it's backwards religion across any country that is stupid enough to throw welfare at the people and listen to their demands and hate speeches.


Nothing major. Just the world's next huge f.ck up

[LEFT4DEAD]

meh. the average thread here is filled with endless segues, assumptions, misinformation and convolutions.

what simple thoughts are you actually trying to express here?
Dont bother man. The guy learned just today that Pakistan is an islamic state and he wants to discuss about muslims. :oldlol:
Stick to worrying about your homelessness fat boy , muslims shouldnt be your concern.

[Patrick Chewing]

Poor France.


Natives are feeling intimidated by these Islamic communities which have sprouted up from floodgates opening.


England is on the same downward spiral. War is happening people. They want to conquer the Kafhirr/Dhimmi or whatever other label we get, and punish us in the name of Allah


Isn't it funny how flooded Europe is with Muslims hell-bent on conquering Europe, and it takes a traffic cop two bullets to put two sheep ****ers down in Texas.

These Muslims will get it real quick here in the States. Conform or die.

[poido123]

Isn't it funny how flooded Europe is with Muslims hell-bent on conquering Europe, and it takes a traffic cop two bullets to put two sheep ****ers down in Texas.

These Muslims will get it real quick here in the States. Conform or die.


I hope so.


They need a legit resistance, because right now they are tap dancing on tombstones if you get my drift.

[Patrick Chewing]

And there is no such thing as a "Moderate Muslim". Those are just Muslims that look the other way for now. When cornered, they become moderate no longer.

There's only so much space on this Earth to run to.

[poido123]

And there is no such thing as a "Moderate Muslim". Those are just Muslims that look the other way for now. When cornered, they become moderate no longer.

There's only so much space on this Earth to run to.


You get it.


I'm relieved to know we haven't all turned stupid.

You are probably aware of the "taqiyya". Muslims know it, they are banking on us being ignorant and knowing nothing of their teachings.


what's the point of recognising good Muslims? They will have a damn spear in my back the moment the world goes to shit. Spear don't lie.

[gigantes]

@poido123-- okay, thank you.


World is under threat of Muslim takeover and religious ideology gone wrong.

i think the world is under threat from a wide array of shit, 99% of it due to humans, 99% of that due to civilisation, some of that due to religions like christianity and islam.


No different to the Nazi genocide trajectory.

do you need me to tell you that you have no idea what the f-ck you're talking about or does someone else have that covered?


You see it in France, you see it in England, you see it in some scandanavian countries like Sweden.

This is an opportunist religious cult which is spreading it's backwards religion across any country that is stupid enough to throw welfare at the people and listen to their demands and hate speeches.

i see your point and get your concerns. while it's obviously going to get slowed way down as it mixes with the west, safe to say it's definitely going to add complications and drama.


Nothing major. Just the world's next huge f.ck up

not even close IMO. the world's next clusterfluff will probably get us long before new complications like this get too bad. unless of course some aspect of this new tension somehow gets a nuclear war triggered, which is obviously game over. then again, that has already been a concern due to other factors for about 65 years.

[Patrick Chewing]

You get it.


I'm relieved to know we haven't all turned stupid.

You are probably aware of the "taqiyya". Muslims know it, they are banking on us being ignorant and knowing nothing of their teachings.


what's the point of recognising good Muslims? They will have a damn spear in my back the moment the world goes to shit. Spear don't lie.

I've mentioned taqiyya and kitman on here before, but of course the moderates and the Uber-Liberals waiting for Muslim conquest simply do not bother replying. And if they do, it's all about "interpretation". Bullshit.

If Christ commanded armies to behead Jews of Banū Qurayẓah and preached about lying to your enemy and killing all non-believers, I'm sure the world's biggest religion would not be Christianity.

[poido123]

@poido123-- okay, thank you.


World is under threat of Muslim takeover and religious ideology gone wrong.

i think the world is under threat from a wide array of shit, 99% of it due to humans, 99% of that due to civilisation, some of that due to religions like christianity and islam.


No different to the Nazi genocide trajectory.

do you need me to tell you that you have no idea what the f-ck you're talking about or does someone else have that covered?


You see it in France, you see it in England, you see it in some scandanavian countries like Sweden.

This is an opportunist religious cult which is spreading it's backwards religion across any country that is stupid enough to throw welfare at the people and listen to their demands and hate speeches.

i see your point and get your concerns. while it's obviously going to get slowed way down as it mixes with the west, safe to say it's definitely going to add complications and drama.


Nothing major. Just the world's next huge f.ck up

not even close IMO. the world's next clusterfluff will probably get us long before new complications like this get too bad. unless of course some aspect of this new tension somehow gets a nuclear war triggered, which is obviously game over. then again, that has already been a concern due to other factors for about 65 years.



The comparison I'm drawing there, is a group or a movement behind a mass extinction of a race or religion. Nazi's wanted the Jewish people exterminated and succeeded in killing millions.

Here we are looking at a religious cult that is hell bent on establishing a caliphate and an end to "non-believers", "kafhirr" or "dhimmi" or even "infidel" as they like to label us. The conform or die approach, with the benefit of using "Taqiyya" which is the disguise for benefit of their religion at all costs. This isn't just a ISIS belief, it is taught among all Muslims.


I'm not saying they are the same, but there are some small similarities in which you can draw an understanding from.

I know of people here in Australia who have ventured to Mosques and accounted for some very disturbing occurrences there. Things that would be considered treasonous and hate speech anywhere in the world.

[Derka]

And there is no such thing as a "Moderate Muslim". Those are just Muslims that look the other way for now. When cornered, they become moderate no longer.

There's only so much space on this Earth to run to.

I wouldn't word it "no such thing" terms, but the idea is sadly true: Muslims in that part of the world who may not agree at all with the extremist elements of their faith are very much the silent majority on this. Their voices need to be heard loudly and clearly if Islam is going to change its image in the world the way other religions have had to over the centuries. Until that happens, they'll continue being painted with the same brush.

Its easier for North American Muslims to voice their disdain for this kind of stuff when they're not under the kind of immediate threat their counterparts live under over there. Doesn't matter how many times someone quotes the Qur'an on how reprehensible it is to kill another Muslim; as long as some whack-job imam is willing to sanction it, and God knows there are plenty of those, they'll start killing all Muslims who disagree with their views as well and then go out for pancakes.

When your adversary isn't interested in society's laws and isn't deterred by the thought of death or imprisonment, going so far as to court both willingly...how does your average European Muslim family just trying to live the day-to-day stuff and not have their daughters subjected to sanctioned rapes by bearded assholes combat the crazies, especially when the governments over there are going out of their way to accommodate said crazies? The crazies have all the guns and the bombs and knives and are perfectly willing to use them. How do you fight that when you stand essentially alone?

[gigantes]

The comparison I'm drawing there, is a group or a movement behind a mass extinction of a race or religion. Nazi's wanted the Jewish people exterminated and succeeded in killing millions.

Here we are looking at a religious cult that is hell bent on establishing a caliphate and an end to "non-believers", "kafhirr" or "dhimmi" or even "infidel" as they like to label us. The conform or die approach, with the benefit of using "Taqiyya" which is the disguise for benefit of their religion at all costs. This isn't just a ISIS belief, it is taught among all Muslims.

I'm not saying they are the same, but there are some small similarities in which you can draw an understanding from.

I know of people here in Australia who have ventured to Mosques and accounted for some very disturbing occurrences there. Things that would be considered treasonous and hate speech anywhere in the world.
worst case scenerio, what do you see happening in oz one day?

acts of terrorism? an eventual political takeover by an islamic group, many years after we're dead?

[KingBeasley08]

One thing that's crazy about some of the "moderate" Muslims is no one completely denounced the Charlie Hebdo shootings. Most "moderate" Muslims I know all said that they shouldn't have insulted their prophet and this wouldn't have happened.

They need freedom of speech to preach their violent, barbaric religion but any speech that calls them out shouldn't be allowed :facepalm

[Nick Young]

No different to the Nazi genocide trajectory.

do you need me to tell you that you have no idea what the f-ck you're talking about or does someone else have that covered?



You seem very ignorant on this subject. There is a strong neo-nazi sentiment fueling many of these terrorist groups in the middle east. The Arabic translations of Mein Kampf and Protocols of the Elders of Zion are all time best sellers in many countries in the region.

Educate yourself about Haj Amin Al-Husseini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini)who is still considered a national political hero in many muslim countries.

Do not accuse people of ignorance when you yourself are ignorant on this subject.
http://a407.idata.over-blog.com/299x176/1/19/32/69/Photos/NaziIslam2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3GhhBW0tlN4/UhF9pBVWb8I/AAAAAAAAQ1A/9-VptleOKCw/s640/nazi+salute+4.png
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/god-bless-hitler.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LgNjtgYrtXw/hqdefault.jpg
http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ISLAMO-NEO-NAZIS.jpg

These are not tiny fringe groups. Hezbollah and Hamas are democratically elected governments responsible for representing millions of people.

[poido123]

worst case scenerio, what do you see happening in oz one day?

acts of terrorism? an eventual political takeover by an islamic group, many years after we're dead?


Acts of terrorism, things are changing so quickly now I don't put it past the possibility of a political takeover in my lifetime.


There are already communities(like France and England) where there are no go zones here in Australia.

We've stopped two beheading attempts in public and a foiled bomb attack up till recently. It's only a matter of when the next one will happen. They tried to do a terrorist attack on Anzac Day, which is an important historical remembrance day for us of fallen soldiers like your July 4 Independence day.

We are catering to Halal certification, our local and state governments are accommodating Muslim demands and even banning certain customs that we have not to offend the Muslim community etc. Muslims are joining Security in record numbers and we are about to accept our first Muslim Imam into our defense force.

Like, how dumb can you get? Hmmm, Muslims joining Security(access to weapons and highly populated events) and Defense force(you can work that one out), it's absurd. I read an article that 200 Muslims were rejected for basic training in our defense force.

HELLLOOOO!!! ALARM BELLS!!! F.cking government are either corrupt, naive, stupid or all of the above.

There is countless more I could talk about, like the Muslim hate speeches that are currently conducted in Sydney Mosques every night of the week, but that only touches the surface of what I've seen and heard.

[KingBeasley08]

How many violent barbaric muslims have you met?
None. That's not my problem. It's the moderates who keep making excuses for the violent barbaric ones that worries me

[gigantes]

Acts of terrorism, things are changing so quickly now I don't put it past the possibility of a political takeover in my lifetime.


There are already communities(like France and England) where there are no go zones here in Australia.

We've stopped two beheading attempts in public and a foiled bomb attack up till recently. It's only a matter of when the next one will happen. They tried to do a terrorist attack on Anzac Day, which is an important historical remembrance day for us of fallen soldiers like your July 4 Independence day.

We are catering to Halal certification, our local and state governments are accommodating Muslim demands and even banning certain customs that we have not to offend the Muslim community etc. Muslims are joining Security in record numbers and we are about to accept our first Muslim Imam into our defense force.

Like, how dumb can you get? Hmmm, Muslims joining Security(access to weapons and highly populated events) and Defense force(you can work that one out), it's absurd. I read an article that 200 Muslims were rejected for basic training in our defense force.

HELLLOOOO!!! ALARM BELLS!!! F.cking government are either corrupt, naive, stupid or all of the above.

There is countless more I could talk about, like the Muslim hate speeches that are currently conducted in Sydney Mosques every night of the week, but that only touches the surface of what I've seen and heard.
interesting, thanks.

gotta go, but i'd like to read some editorials or published, quality assessments later so i can better get a sense of how bad this stuff might be getting. later for now

[Nick Young]

Acts of terrorism, things are changing so quickly now I don't put it past the possibility of a political takeover in my lifetime.


There are already communities(like France and England) where there are no go zones here in Australia.

We've stopped two beheading attempts in public and a foiled bomb attack up till recently. It's only a matter of when the next one will happen. They tried to do a terrorist attack on Anzac Day, which is an important historical remembrance day for us of fallen soldiers like your July 4 Independence day.

We are catering to Halal certification, our local and state governments are accommodating Muslim demands and even banning certain customs that we have not to offend the Muslim community etc. Muslims are joining Security in record numbers and we are about to accept our first Muslim Imam into our defense force.

Like, how dumb can you get? Hmmm, Muslims joining Security(access to weapons and highly populated events) and Defense force(you can work that one out), it's absurd. I read an article that 200 Muslims were rejected for basic training in our defense force.

HELLLOOOO!!! ALARM BELLS!!! F.cking government are either corrupt, naive, stupid or all of the above.

There is countless more I could talk about, like the Muslim hate speeches that are currently conducted in Sydney Mosques every night of the week, but that only touches the surface of what I've seen and heard.
Dude you have to remind yourself that most people aren't zealots. Most Muslims are just like anyone else and just want to get along in life and be happy in society. It is a minority that are religious zealot psychos who want to behead people and kill cartoonists.

It is a bigger problem than many terrorist defenders claim it is, but also insane zealotry in Islam is not so big that you should be worried about Muslim soldiers fighting in the Australian army.

If they had plans to become radicalized terrorists, why would they choose to fight for Australia? Give those guys atleast the benefit of the doubt. They are doing their best to integrate in to your country and society.

#notallmuslims for real.


I tend to agree with you about things generally but I think you're in danger of becoming a paranoid.

There is not going to be a muslim uprising IMO.

Looking at history things will happen extremely gradually.

Considering Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, I think it is not paranoid to say eventually Islam will control the world. That isn't necessarily bad though, looking at historic Islamic regimes of the past, there are some great ones.

[NumberSix]

Lefties always try to attach race, sexual orientation or some other identity when they know their position is indefensible. Instead of counter arguing a point that is obviously right, the only move is to accuse you of hating some group of people.


Normal: I want to pay less taxes
Leftist: lower taxes hurt poor black people. Do you hate blacks?

Normal: I think islam has some ideas that don't fit in with the modern world.
Leftist: some of the people who believe in those ideas are brown. Do you hate brown people?

Normal: a business is private property. The owner should have the freedom to deny doing business with whatever person he chooses.
Leftist: but what if a person uses his freedom to not attend gay weddings? Do you hate gays?

Normal: accusations of a crime should always need to be proven.
Leftist: you think rape victims shouldn't be taken seriously. Do you hate women?



I'm surprised Christians haven't started using this tactic. Latinos are overwhelming Christian. Can you imagine if EVERYTIME someone said something about Christianity or draws a picture of Jesus, they got accused of being anti-Latino racists? :roll:

[poido123]

Lefties always try to attach race, sexual orientation or some other identity when they know their position is indefensible. Instead of counter arguing a point that is obviously right, the only move is to accuse you of hating some group of people.


Normal: I want to pay less taxes
Leftist: lower taxes hurt poor black people. Do you hate blacks?

Normal: I think islam has some ideas that don't fit in with the modern world.
Leftist: some of the people who believe in those ideas are brown. Do you hate brown people?

Normal: a business is private property. The owner should have the freedom to deny doing business with whatever person he chooses.
Leftist: but what if a person uses his freedom to not attend gay weddings? Do you hate gays?

Normal: accusations of a crime should always need to be proven.
Leftist: you think rape victims shouldn't be taken seriously. Do you hate women?



I'm surprised Christians haven't started using this tactic. Latinos are overwhelming Christian. Can you imagine if EVERYTIME someone said something about Christianity or draws a picture of Jesus, they got accused of being anti-Latino racists? :roll:



F.cking LOL


Muslims/lefties please read this before anymore deflection tactics. Couldn't say it better myself :applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm surprised Christians haven't started using this tactic. Latinos are overwhelming Christian.


God, that would be so annoying. I don't think we (Christians and Latinos) would be able to keep up with all that bullshit.

[aj1987]

You are racist because you think all Indians are skinny malnourished thieves. You are racist because you generalize 2 billion Muslims dude to the actions of about 20% of them. You are an ignorant bigoted asshole who hides behind his computer. Try saying the same shit to people IRL. You'd be in the ICU in a heartbeat.

[warriorfan]

Because in every western country, there are a number of beta males who are at the way bottom of the social/masculinity totem pole. They don't resent Muslims because Muslims are not the cause of their angst. It is their better-off countrymen and peers who are the cause of their angst.

So they use excessive liberalism and tolerance as a way to 'stick it' to the arrogant traditionalists whom they resent and envy. They want to see the big dog on the block vexed and taken down a peg, even at the expense of their own freakin country. They want to feel like they're the ones calling the shots and making the policy. And in a traditional world they're the nobodies, so they have to go to the other side of the spectrum to get some influence.

And of course, as always, monied interests will find a way to feed off and manipulate this natural rift for its own gain. Governments would rather citizens be fighting amongst themselves than united against the government. So the betas are a very useful tool, and that's why they're fed tolerance propaganda through the media.

Betas stay beta. Easily shepherded sheep.


http://s15.postimg.org/amapzsquj/gobbthinksimhawt.jpg


:roll:

[Nick Young]

You are racist because you think all Indians are skinny malnourished thieves. You are racist because you generalize 2 billion Muslims dude to the actions of about 20% of them. You are an ignorant bigoted asshole who hides behind his computer. Try saying the same shit to people IRL. You'd be in the ICU in a heartbeat.

Islam is not a race. It's a religious ideology followed by all races all over the world.

If anything, it is racist of you to refer to Muslims as a 'race.'

[Patrick Chewing]

If anything, it is racist of you to refer to Muslims as a 'race.'

Don't do that! His head will explode.


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[aj1987]

Islam is not a race. It's a religious ideology followed by all races all over the world.

If anything, it is racist of you to refer to Muslims as a 'race.'
You do realize that there are different races who adhere to the religious ideology which is Islam, right? Him generalizing all of them together isn't racist?

:rolleyes:

[NumberSix]

You do realize that there are different races who adhere to the religious ideology which is Islam, right? Him generalizing all of them together isn't racist?

:rolleyes:
Islam has nothing to do with race. Why are you injecting race into it?

[aj1987]

Islam has nothing to do with race. Why are you injecting race into it?
As I said, there are SEVERAL races which adhere to Islam. Generalizing them all together is definitely racist.

[Patrick Chewing]

You do realize that there are different races who adhere to the religious ideology which is Islam, right? Him generalizing all of them together isn't racist?

:rolleyes:

:facepalm


Race has nothing to do with what religion you choose to follow. Why you keep bringing up race is perplexing. How many times must he tell you?

[Patrick Chewing]

Generalizing them all together is definitely racist.


But if he's generalizing them based on their religion, then it pretty much throws your race argument out the window. Doh!


You can't be this dumb. Please tell us you're trolling.

[aj1987]

:facepalm


Race has nothing to do with what religion you choose to follow. Why you keep bringing up race is perplexing. How many times must he tell you?
Christ! How hard is it to understand? Arabs Muslims are a RACE. Indian Muslims are a different race. African Muslims are a different race. Grouping them all together is in fact racist.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Christ! How hard is it to understand? Arabs Muslims are a RACE. Indian Muslims are a different race. African Muslims are a different race. Grouping them all together is in fact racist.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Which is exactly what YOU did. And Nick Young said it was racist of you to do so.

By saying its "racist" to criticize Muslims, YOU imply that Muslims are all the same race.

[Patrick Chewing]

Christ! How hard is it to understand? Arabs Muslims are a RACE. Indian Muslims are a different race. African Muslims are a different race. Grouping them all together is in fact racist.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


Please, assclown, go back to school. I will be negging your dumb ass to the depths of hell when reps come back.

[aj1987]

Which is exactly what YOU did. And Nick Young said it was racist of you to do so.

By saying its "racist" to criticize Muslims, YOU imply that Muslims are all the same race.
Indian Muslims aren't bat at all. Most of them are extremely nice. Same goes with a ton of Pakistani (Pashtun as well) Muslims. Two from the same religion but of different RACES. Mr. Pedophile grouped them together, which I pointed out was racist. Or did you want him to identify each of them separately, so I could call him out on his idiocy?


Please, assclown, go back to school. I will be negging your dumb ass to the depths of hell when reps come back.
God, please no! Not the negs! Anything but the negs!!

[poido123]

Please, assclown, go back to school. I will be negging your dumb ass to the depths of hell when reps come back.


That could be fun, although I am genuinely concerned he will neck himself.

I don't want blood on my hands on ISH.

He is off tilt and looking for the nearest ceiling fan

[aj1987]

That could be fun, although I am genuinely concerned he will neck himself.

I don't want blood on my hands on ISH.

He is off tilt and looking for the nearest ceiling fan
A ceiling fan won't hold your weight. I suggest a jump off a tall building since you're too broke to afford anything else.

[Patrick Chewing]

Indian Muslims aren't bat at all. Most of them are extremely nice. Same goes with a ton of Pakistani (Pashtun as well) Muslims. Two from the same religion but of different RACES. Mr. Pedophile grouped them together, which I pointed out was racist. Or did you want him to identify each of them separately, so I could call him out on his idiocy?



Seriously, look up the definition of racism and it is NOTHING like what you are describing. You're actually contradicting your stupidity. If you look up the term "Arab" in the dictionary, an Arab can be of different races. So if someone is grouping an Indian Muslim and an Arab Muslim together, despite the fact that they look completely different, the one thing they have in common is their religion. You can only "group" something if it has commonalities. This is stuff a normal human being learns in 3rd grade, but it's understandable that you are just a dumb shit and your mom was too busy comatosing herself while you were eager to learn the alphabet.

[NumberSix]

Indian Muslims aren't bat at all. Most of them are extremely nice. Same goes with a ton of Pakistani (Pashtun as well) Muslims. Two from the same religion but of different RACES. Mr. Pedophile grouped them together, which I pointed out was racist. Or did you want him to identify each of them separately, so I could call him out on his idiocy?


God, please no! Not the negs! Anything but the negs!!
Right, so if you're criticizing people who are of all different races, it isn't race you are criticizing, it's something else. If what you're criticizing is NOT race, then It can't be racist, now can it?

For you to call his criticism "racist" would mean YOU think he is criticizing race. For YOU to think he is criticizing race, YOU would have to believe Muslims are a race.

[aj1987]

Seriously, look up the definition of racism and it is NOTHING like what you are describing. You're actually contradicting your stupidity. If you look up the term "Arab" in the dictionary, an Arab can be of different races. So if someone is grouping an Indian Muslim and an Arab Muslim together, despite the fact that they look completely different, the one thing they have in common is their religion. You can only "group" something if it has commonalities. This is stuff a normal human being learns in 3rd grade, but it's understandable that you are just a dumb shit and your mom was too busy comatosing herself while you were eager to learn the alphabet.
Do they not teach English in New York? Wait, did you go to one "those" schools? No wonder.

You said I'm contradicting myself, yet, you contradicted yourself in your post.


Right, so if you're criticizing people who are of all different races, it isn't race you are criticizing, it's something else. If what you're criticizing is NOT race, then It can't be racist, now can it?


For you to call his criticism "racist" would mean YOU think he is criticizing race. For YOU to think he is criticizing race, YOU would have to believe Muslims are a race.
Let me make myself clear. Generalizing Muslims from all races into a SINGLE group and criticizing them as being violent is racist. That's my opinions anyways.

Ignoring the Islam thing, if you've been following that discussion I've been having with Mr. Pedo, you're know that he's racist AF. Again, IGNORING Islam. Dude is definitely racist and if this doesn't fit your definition of being racist, there are several dozen more.

EDIT: On a side note, I know that there is NO single definition to describe a race, but how would you define one (yeah, I know that religion doesn't count).

[KingBeasley08]

Dude you're wrong. We are talking ideology here. Islam is an ideological set of rules. If I rip on communism, am I being racist by grouping the different people who follow it? No. Critiquing a religion and it's ideas is not racist at all

[NumberSix]

Do they not teach English in New York? Wait, did you go to one "those" schools? No wonder.

You said I'm contradicting myself, yet, you contradicted yourself in your post.


Let me make myself clear. Generalizing Muslims from all races into a SINGLE group and criticizing them as being violent is racist. That's my opinions anyways.

Ignoring the Islam thing, if you've been following that discussion I've been having with Mr. Pedo, you're know that he's racist AF. Again, IGNORING Islam. Dude is definitely racist and if this doesn't fit your definition of being racist, there are several dozen more.

EDIT: On a side note, I know that there is NO single definition to describe a race, but how would you define one (yeah, I know that religion doesn't count).
He might be a religion-ist, but I don't think I've seen him say anything about race.

What you're not understanding is that by continuing to call it "racist" you are implying that that Muslims are all of one race.

Imagine if someone kept criticizing Blacks. Then imagine some guy says "hey, don't criticize blacks, that's sexist".

[aj1987]

He might be a religion-ist, but I don't think I've seen him say anything about race.

What you're not understanding is that by continuing to call it "racist" you are implying that that Muslims are all of one race.

Imagine if someone kept criticizing Blacks. Then imagine some guy says "hey, don't criticize blacks, that's sexist".
As I said, please go back and see his "arguments". The ones he has had with me. Considering all Indians to be of the malnourished and thieves? Claiming that Indians are Pakistanis are "basically the same"? The definition of race is VERY loose (yeah, it doesn't include religion in any) and it can include several criteria.

[NumberSix]

As I said, please go back and see his "arguments". The ones he has had with me. Considering all Indians to be of the malnourished and thieves? Claiming that Indians are Pakistanis are "basically the same"? The definition of race is VERY loose (yeah, it doesn't include religion in any) and it can include several criteria.
Indians and Pakistanis ARE the same. Pakistanis are Muslim Indians. Urdu is Hindi written in Arabic script. Before 1947, it was all just "India". Then they partitioned off a piece for the Muslim Indians and called it "Pakistan". Actually, it's not even really "Pakistan". It's "P.A.K.stan".

[aj1987]

Indians and Pakistanis ARE the same. Pakistanis are Muslim Indians. Urdu is Hindi written in Arabic script. Before 1947, it was all just "India". Then they partitioned off a piece for the Muslim Indians and called it "Pakistan". Actually, it's not even really "Pakistan". It's "P.A.K.stan".
Other than the fact that it's not really the same. There are several ethnicities in Pakistan. Sindhi's, Pashto's, and Balouchi's make up ~50% of the population. I'm not even including the other ethnicities which are there in Pakistan.

5% of Indians speak Urdu, BTW. Fewer than that, IIRC.

You guys really need to study the history of the India Sub-Continent. It's FAR more complicated than a 10 minute reading session on Wiki.

EDIT: Heck, the Muslim population in India is ~13%. Not even close to being the same, is it? It's like me saying that the United States and Mexico are basically the same.

EDIT 2: I'm not gonna blame you guys for not knowing Indian history though. It's too dense and takes forever to research.

[NumberSix]

Other than the fact that it's not really the same. There are several ethnicities in Pakistan. Sindhi's, Pashto's, and Balouchi's make up ~50% of the population. I'm not even including the other ethnicities which are there in Pakistan.

5% of Indians speak Urdu, BTW. Fewer than that, IIRC.

You guys really need to study the history of the India Sub-Continent. It's FAR more complicated than a 10 minute reading session on Wiki.

EDIT: Heck, the Muslim population in India is ~13%. Not even close to being the same, is it? It's like me saying that the United States and Mexico are basically the same.
Urdu = Hindi.

[KingBeasley08]

aj actually isn't completely wrong. I don't think it's as easy as Pakistan = India because India isn't one homogeneous country. It's giant nation with dozens of ethnicities, languages, and cultures that really came together during British colonization

[aj1987]

Urdu = Hindi.
So, Language = Race? Then again, both languages have completely different scripts (yeah, I can write in both) and a minority of Indians (45%) speak Hindi.

Are you ignoring the different ethnicities on purpose?

[NumberSix]

Other than the fact that it's not really the same. There are several ethnicities in Pakistan. Sindhi's, Pashto's, and Balouchi's make up ~50% of the population. I'm not even including the other ethnicities which are there in Pakistan.

5% of Indians speak Urdu, BTW. Fewer than that, IIRC.

You guys really need to study the history of the India Sub-Continent. It's FAR more complicated than a 10 minute reading session on Wiki.

EDIT: Heck, the Muslim population in India is ~13%. Not even close to being the same, is it? It's like me saying that the United States and Mexico are basically the same.

EDIT 2: I'm not gonna blame you guys for not knowing Indian history though. It's too dense and takes forever to research.
No, it's actually like saying Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland are the same people. Because, you know, they are.

Sure, their might be a religious divide and they split Ireland into 2 countries, but they are still the same people.

[NumberSix]

aj actually isn't completely wrong. I don't think it's as easy as Pakistan = India because India isn't one homogeneous country. It's giant nation with dozens of ethnicities, languages, and cultures that really came together during British colonization
Well, the Indian subcontinent has been conquered many times over history and there are areas of India that have a very clear Persian genetic mixture.

The point though is, Pakistanis are the same as Indians even taking into account their non-homogeneity.

Think of Mexico. Mexico isn't homogenous either. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic, but imagine if for whatever reason, like 15% of Mexicans from all over the country converted to Buddhism. Let's say they sectioned off a piece of Mexico and called it "Buddaco". Most of the Buddhist Mexicans move to Buddaco and the Catholic Mexicans that live in the new Buddaco section move to the main part of Mexico with all the other Catholics.

Even considering that Mexicans aren't homogeneous, you'd still say that people in Buddaco really are just Mexicans, right? :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

No, it's actually like saying Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland are the same people. Because, you know, they are.

Sure, their might be a religious divide and they split Ireland into 2 countries, but they are still the same people.
Come on, NumberSix. You're just ignoring the FACT and the ACTUAL history of both the countries. Same language =/= same race (even it does, only 5% of Indians speak Urdu).

From my previous post:

Other than the fact that it's not really the same. There are several ethnicities in Pakistan. Sindhi's, Pashto's, and Balouchi's make up ~50% of the population. I'm not even including the other ethnicities which are there in Pakistan.