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I<3NBA
05-13-2015, 12:17 AM
Who?

TheMarkMadsen
05-13-2015, 12:18 AM
Kareem's without Oscar after he missed the playoffs 2 straight years in his prime after Oscar left

Akrazotile
05-13-2015, 12:20 AM
Pre-Heat Chris Bosh?

MJ before Pippen?

Deron Williams?

Kevin Martin?

Heavincent
05-13-2015, 12:24 AM
Yeah, Kobe's playoff resume isn't that impressive if you don't count those 13 seasons.

KembaWalker
05-13-2015, 12:29 AM
Kobe is living rent free on these boards rn :roll:

3ball
05-13-2015, 12:34 AM
Kareem's without Oscar after he missed the playoffs 2 straight years in his prime after Oscar left


See, that's what people don't get - Lebron isn't nearly as dominant as Kareem.. Yet Kareem played on teams where he couldn't make the playoffs because his supporting cast was really bad AND his conference had solid teams..

Whereas Lebron has always either: 1) had a solid supporting cast, and/or 2) his competition in the East was literally the weakest of all time, a joke.

Yao Ming's Foot
05-13-2015, 12:35 AM
better than Pau's without Kobe :confusedshrug:

Showtime2001
05-13-2015, 12:39 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol

coin24
05-13-2015, 12:41 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol


Ether

SouBeachTalents
05-13-2015, 12:42 AM
See, that's what people don't get - Lebron isn't nearly as dominant as Kareem.. Yet Kareem played on teams where he couldn't make the playoffs because his supporting cast was really bad AND his conference had solid teams..

Whereas Lebron has always either: 1) had a solid supporting cast, and/or 2) his competition in the East was literally the weakest of all time, a joke.

Lmao at this clown thinking Kareem's competition in the West is any better than what LeBron's faced in the East. Here's the epic competition he was facing in the West while without Oscar or Magic. And that was BEFORE playing in the '80's Western Conference, which was arguably just as bad as the 2000's East

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1975.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1976.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1977.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1978.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1979.html

DonDadda59
05-13-2015, 12:42 AM
Kobe is living rent free on these boards rn :roll:

As an ardent Bean hater, I gotta admit it is a bit weird. Kobe should be completely irrelevant right now yet he's on the tip of every Bron stan's tongue and kicking his feet up in their skulls and writing $0.00 checks for the rent.

It's the second round of the playoffs and the Cavs are in a tight, compelling series... yet all the talk is about a 36 year old, hobbled lottery team player who's on his way out?

Very odd indeed.

DFish24
05-13-2015, 12:43 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol

Don't do em like that

DonDadda59
05-13-2015, 12:44 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol

Shaq won a championship, made the finals twice, a bunch of deep playoff runs... Pau just got out of the first round, something Bean never did without either. :confusedshrug:

L.Kizzle
05-13-2015, 12:47 AM
Kobe is Tracy McGrady without Shaq and Paul. But so is Jordan without Pippen.

First round virgins.

SouBeachTalents
05-13-2015, 12:48 AM
Kobe is Tracy McGrady without Shaq and Paul. But so is Jordan without Pippen.

First round virgins.

That'd be second round virgins

L.Kizzle
05-13-2015, 12:49 AM
That'd be second round virgins
Who?

Showtime2001
05-13-2015, 12:49 AM
Shaq won a championship, made the finals twice, a bunch of deep playoff runs... Pau just got out of the first round, something Bean never did without either. :confusedshrug:
Yet before they played with Kobe they were both career losers and have been swept a combined 8 times without Kobe. :biggums:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-13-2015, 12:50 AM
Shaq won a championship, made the finals twice, a bunch of deep playoff runs... Pau just got out of the first round, something Bean never did without either. :confusedshrug:
So why include Pau like hes this some high class player and only include Kobe for Shaq?

What has Shaq done w/o Penny, Wade, Kobe or Bran?

DonDadda59
05-13-2015, 12:51 AM
Yet before they played with Kobe they were both career losers and have been swept a combined 8 times without Kobe. :biggums:

Getting swept by Hakeem in the finals or Jordan in the ECF>>>>Not making the playoffs or getting bounced in the first. :confusedshrug:

Showtime2001
05-13-2015, 12:55 AM
Getting swept by Hakeem in the finals or Jordan in the ECF>>>>Not making the playoffs or getting bounced in the first. :confusedshrug:
http://nbaarena.com/img/haberler/smush-parker-kwame-brown-lakers.jpg

I<3NBA
05-13-2015, 01:05 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol
Kobe without Shaq and Pau

04-05 missed playoffs
05-06 1st rd exit
06-07 1st rd exit
14-15 missed playoffs

Yao Ming's Foot
05-13-2015, 01:07 AM
Kobe without Shaq and Pau

04-05 missed playoffs
05-06 1st rd exit
06-07 1st rd exit
14-15 missed playoffs

so

0-0
not swept
not swept
0-0

great comeback

:roll:

chazzy
05-13-2015, 01:07 AM
Hi Harion, what happened to you and your crow pies in 2011? Did you just eat them yourself? :oldlol:

I<3NBA
05-13-2015, 01:20 AM
I was going to bump it when Lebron won the next year but by then my Harion acct was banned.

It was a year later, yeah. But still, i guess you guys still ate some crow.

Droid101
05-13-2015, 01:37 AM
I don't know. Lakers without Shaq means they'd have room to get someone pretty good most likely. So, not much different?

And Kobe with Pau means nothing really; he had the best record in the west BEFORE the Pau trade happened.

Anything else?

Dubs510
05-13-2015, 01:54 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol

http://i.imgur.com/dhMeAzK.gif

AirFederer
05-13-2015, 02:58 AM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/324473_o.gif

Relinquish
05-13-2015, 03:33 AM
so

0-0
not swept
not swept
0-0

great comeback

:roll:

Only according to Kobe stans is getting swept in the first round worse than not even making the playoffs. :roll:

Magic 32
05-13-2015, 03:53 AM
Shaq without Kobe.

1994 swept in first round
1995 swept in finals
1996 swept in conference finals
2007 swept in first round

Pau without Kobe.

2004 swept in first round
2005 swept in first round
2006 swept in first round
2013 swept in first round

:lol

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1526835/mavsfanforlife_1.gif

riseagainst
05-13-2015, 10:18 AM
yeah Kobe's resume is pretty bad if you don't count all the seasons he played.

HylianNightmare
05-13-2015, 10:31 AM
Give Kobe a teammate like wade and rose and I bet they win a chip. If healthy I bet they would've done alright in the playoffs with Howard and Nash

Yao Ming's Foot
05-13-2015, 10:51 AM
Only according to Kobe stans is getting swept in the first round worse than not even making the playoffs. :roll:

Certainly doesn't impact their playoff record. :confusedshrug: