even without K.Love, Lebron still has a great supporting cast...

[ekosky]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..

[3ball]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..


don't scare me bro.. :(

damn team-hopping.. :rant

[navy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhkoQcHmhlg

[Quickening]

Just no

[Cocaine80s]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..
Everything bolded is wrong

[Micku]

He does have a good supporting case, but they are mostly banged up. Love is out. Kyrie foot is messed up and LBJ got a sprained ankle. I could see the Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, Memphis and Warriors beating the team currently. And even with that supporting case that LBJ have, weren't they like...2-7 without him? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think the Cavs are good enough this year. I'm shocked they are even beating the Bulls right now. Imo, it just shows how underwhelming the Bulls are. They can't even take advantage of Love being out, JR Smith being out for two games, Kyrie being injured and LBJ not having his best series...wow. And imo, it doesn't really seem like either team is playing good offense. There are some decent defense here and there, especially with Jimmy Butler on LBJ, but both teams are just missing some open shots and even layups. It's an ugly yet strangely exciting series to me.

Anyway, I don't see anyone in the East to beat any of the current teams in the West. If the Cavs were healthy, then I think 3 teams could take him out. Clips, Warriors, and Spurs. Memphis and Rockets would've been interesting.
The Bulls especially ran questionable offensive sets at times.

If they do...then win a championship (I really doubt it, even when healthy), then this will end up as one of the most surprising runs.

tldr; Nah bruh. They ain't good enough.

[chips93]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even


:biggums:

blake has been the best player in the playoffs

cavs right now have lebron, an injured kyrie, and 5 good role players.

its a decent team, and if we get to the finals, that will represent a success in my eyes.

[305Baller]

All LeBron needs when he is on his A game is a rim protector, rebounding, shooting and 1 other guy that can create his own shot. He has it.

Now can he beat a 13-14 Spurs team with only that?

Still not sure.

[Fudge]

Everything bolded is wrong
Mozgov actually has been the best rim protector in the playoffs, at least statistically.


Timofey Mozgov has been the best rim protector in the NBA Playoffs by a comfortable margin, according to Seth Partnow's metric.

Mozgov is holding opponents to shooting just 34 percent at the rim.
After being traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers, Mozgov was a top-10 rim protector during the regular season.

I also agree about the part of TT and J.R. Everything else is arguable.

But no way in hell is Dellavedova the best backup PG in the league. Not even close.

[3ball]

its a decent team, and if we get to the finals, that will represent a success in my eyes.


the other teams in the East are ALSO just "decent" teams.. and the cavs sheer talent is still best in the East, especially with Wall out.

the East is just THAT weak.. getting to the Finals means nothing out of the East - now beating a Clippers, Houston, Spurs, Memphis or Warriors to make the Finals?... NOW you might have something.

[Micku]

Everything bolded is wrong

Nah, he's about right with Mozgov. Wrong about everything else =p. Especially JR Smith and Kyrie.

Mozgov rim protection is 33.3% and he gets 7.3 attempts a game. This is better than Bogut (37.5%), DJ (47.7%), Howard (47.3%), and all that jazz. Problem is that the East sucks.

[L.A. Jazz]

Lebron's biggest strength is his versatility. He helps his teammates to use their strengths and hide their weaknesses. He can fill most of the Needs depending on who is on the floor with him. He may not be great at everything but he does most of the things pretty good.

[HelterSkelter]

They're good. LeBron doesn't have that super sh!tty '04-'10 cast anymore.

BUT.. with your logic..

it's like you're saying that if LeBron had a cast like the current Sixers and they play great... they're a great cast


LOL @ Delly being the best back up :roll:

[buddha]

All LeBron needs when he is on his A game is a rim protector, rebounding, shooting and 1 other guy that can create his own shot. He has it.

Now can he beat a 13-14 Spurs team with only that?

Still not sure.

that's all MJ ever had and he won 6 championships.

[Bigsmoke]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..

Its a good one. How the hell Delly the best backup?


They just look stacked because LeBron is on the roster. Take him and Love out and they will be the Cavs of 2011-2014 all over again

[asd]

replace Lebron with Melo and they would be the New York Knicks

[Jailblazers7]

Every team at this stage of the playoffs has a good team and "supporting cast" around their best player. The Cavs have a good team but no better than pretty much every other team still standing.

[r15mohd]

replace Lebron with Melo and they would be the New York Knicks


this. only reason this team is playing well is because of the matter in which Lebron is leading them. JR Smith and Shump were putting up the same numbers (and by 3Ball's notation - way better stats in nYk) yet somehow not successful in nYk? :confusedshrug:

everyone basically dismissed JR Smith over his latter years in nYk. Shump was never the same after his injury and would not amount to his rookie year play, per nYk faithful (many outsiders sided with them too). however, as we are seeing, not the case when you switch the direction on how to lead the team...Shump and Smith are putting up similar stats as their nYk days, however at better rates across the board.

should go without saying that Lebron is a big reason to their reemergence

[pauk]

I have a car to race with aswell, no problem, can take myself from A to B, it helps in the daily life... but is it enough to win a race with? Yes, i may be the most talanted/skilled driver on the field, but i have the least bhp to work with out of all the cars in the race....

[r15mohd]

that's all MJ ever had and he won 6 championships.


well this year is literally the 1st year Lebron's had all these together at once and heading into the playoffs:

on his initial Cleveland stint, he never had that 2nd option to help create his own shot. either Lebron did it or the offense suffered.

Miami days, they lacked rebounding and inside presence.

this time with Cleveland, he has basically all the pieces which other greats had alongside their run too...tho they are injured to a degree, it's basically a complete and well-rounded team when healthy and would have been a good matchup for any west team. can the team, as-is today, do some damage...maybe snatch a couple games, but I don't see them winning the title unless Lebron goes beast in all games and everyone of the role players are compensating for the injured Love and likely Irving.

[ShawkFactory]

How is Lebron's supporting cast better than say, Chris Paul's (or blake's since it may be unclear as to who their best player is)?

If we're going by Chris Paul:
1. Blake- been the best player in the playoffs thus far
2. DeAndre- best defensive and rebounding big in the game right now probably
3. Redick- one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Can give you 20 whenever as well
4. Barnes- Good shooter and defender
5. Crawford- constant best 6th man. Can give you 30 off the bench in a given night

I could keep going with their bench guys and then do the same with the Warriors and Rockets but I think you get the point. The Cavs without Love aren't some super stacked team.

[CarlosBoozer]

Curry's cast > lebron's

[Straight_Ballin]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..

Any sensible NBA fan knows how stacked the Cavs are. The only ones that try to down play it are pathetic bran stans that want to make it appear as if Bron is doing more with less. The truth is that if you can't win with this stacked of a supporting cast, you pretty much are hopeless.

[lebron06]

Thats how great of a leader Lebron is makes teammates better

[edrick]

:roll:

Delly the best backup? OMG. That is enough to show that you are a ****ing hater.

[LoneyROY7]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..

:roll: :roll: :roll:

25/13/7 on 50 percent, son.

[tmacattack33]

:roll:

[inclinerator]

Its a good one. How the hell Delly the best backup?


They just look stacked because LeBron is on the roster. Take him and Love out and they will be the Cavs of 2011-2014 all over again
:applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

i love that bran stan logic

"take 2 of the 3 best players off the team and the team isn't even good anymore"

you don't say??

[nba_55]

this thread
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[JebronLames]

well this year is literally the 1st year Lebron's had all these together at once and heading into the playoffs:

on his initial Cleveland stint, he never had that 2nd option to help create his own shot. either Lebron did it or the offense suffered.

Miami days, they lacked rebounding and inside presence.

this time with Cleveland, he has basically all the pieces which other greats had alongside their run too...tho they are injured to a degree, it's basically a complete and well-rounded team when healthy and would have been a good matchup for any west team. can the team, as-is today, do some damage...maybe snatch a couple games, but I don't see them winning the title unless Lebron goes beast in all games and everyone of the role players are compensating for the injured Love and likely Irving.
It's crazy how overrated his cast in miami was just because how good wade used to be, and people don't even account for how wade's game doesn't complement his. He only complements him on fastbreaks and off the court.

Healthy kyrie>> wade 12-14 (taking in to account how each complements lebron)
Love> bosh (since bosh was forced to play out of position)
mozgov,TT,JR,shump>>>>>battier,chalmers,ray,birdman

This was by far Lebron's best supporting cast, but big problems include love being hurt, kyrie hobbled, and so far

Lebron 12-14>>> Lebron 15

[nzahir]

Mozgov - statistically the best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Shumpert- stepping as of late, capable of hitting wide open threes and locking down the perimeter
J.R. - probably the best three point shooter on the Cavs, capable of scoring 20 on any given night...
Delly - the best backup point in the league
kyrie -arguably best second option out of all the remaining teams in the playoffs imo, even better than klay. i think he and Blake are about even

i just don't see any team in the league (much less a team in the East) beating this team 4 times out of 7... they are well balanced even without K.love. insert Tristan and he gives you energy on both ends of the court..
- Deandre Jordan, Marc G, Bogut>Mozgov
- And why are you comparing guys like jr and shumpert to ourselves and not other shooters?
-Delly isnt the best backup pg in the playoffs even let alone the league, dennis s, shaun livingston, and rivers are better than him in the playoffs alone
-A healthy kyrie isnt as good as blake for sure and probably not klay either since he can play defense; so a hobbled kyrie is definitely not up there.

WHOLE POST IS BAD OP

[1~Gibson~1]

When everyone is stepping up, the Cavs have no weakness other than depth. James Jones and Kendrick Perkins are the backup PF and C :oldlol:

Oh, and lets not forge the probable 8 TO games Lebron has every third game. But other than that, no weaknesses.

[Fudge]

- Deandre Jordan, Marc G, Bogut>Mozgov
Nope, statistically, Mozgov has been a better rim protector than all three of them.

[edrick]

The Cavs had the worst bench during the regular season, and they were the second worst bench during the playoffs as of a few games ago (I haven't seen an update recently). That's all you need to know.

[ekosky]

:roll:

Delly the best backup? OMG. That is enough to show that you are a ****ing hater.
i'm a realistic Cavs fan you retard... unlike half of you commenting in my thread :lol