Cleveland can beat the Warriors in the finals

[Cocaine80s]

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[Spurs5Rings2014]

0% chance, but since you feel so confidently about this, how about you leave the site if they don't?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Id be surprised if any Least team even took a game from the Warriors

[Cocaine80s]

0% chance, but since you feel so confidently about this, how about you leave the site if they don't?
Sorry dont speak 1st round exit

[Mr. Jabbar]

whats actually going dwn:

4-0 ----------> 2/6

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Sorry dont speak 1st round exit

We'd be in the finals if we were in the Leastern Conference.

:oldlol:

[Cocaine80s]

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Fixed.

[DukeDelonte13]

I think the cavs even without Love have the capability to beat any team out west. Will they actually do it is a different question.

[r15mohd]

any team has a chance to win once they make the Finals...all comes down to what GSW does and whether the Cavs are healthy enough


this is GSW's first trip there, and could catch stage-fright by being on the big stage. they could have a bit of 2004 Kobe where one out-duels another to try and grab the FMVP spotlight. any one of them can wet the bed ala Lebron 2011. all possibilities seeing this is their 1st time around.

for the Cavs, it comes down to health. if they go into the Finals 100% outside of Love, they have a fighting chance. slim fighting chance but what more can you ask for given the position they're in. I don't see any stage-fright coming from the Cavs though, Lebron has this teams focus where it should be. I don't know if Kerr can provide that eased mindset like Lebron will to the players while on the sideline coaching.

it will be a good series, none the less. will love to see how Shump handles Curry and if they can simmer Klay at the same time. Lebron will only stop himself, so he has to remain aggressive right through and not get passive.

Bogut and Green are GSW's x-factor...if they are sub-par, GSW lose. they have to remain consistent as they've been or better and the series is theres

[Lebron23]

I like their chances against the Warriors even without Kevin Love. Irving just needs to play his game, and he needs to be healthy.

[toxicxr6]

I honestly can't see how anyone can think the cavs can beat gws in a series.. Without love they don't have a chance in hell


Curry is a lot better than Irving
Thompson is light years ahead of shrumpet or smith
The sf is the only position that cavs will have the edge.. And the warriors have one of the best defensive players in the league at that position
Pf is pretty much a wash at best for the cavs
And at centre warriors are far better than the cave again

Bench the warriors are miles ahead

Coaching warriors are miles ahead


Remember the heat coasted through the east playoffs last year to be absolutely curb stomped by the Spurs...
Don't be fooled the east is absolute trash... The cavs might make it out of the East Because of this... But just like last year almost every west team would beat the cavs in a series


Warriors would absolutely stomp the cavs.. Cavs can't defend at all.. They are a horrible defensive team and the Warriors would embarrass the cavs

[HylianNightmare]

Warriors are the only team in the west I see Cleveland beating actually

[sd3035]

I think you've been cooking up too much of that cocaine

4-0 Warriors

[r15mohd]

I honestly can't see how anyone can think the cavs can beat gws in a series.. Without love they don't have a chance in hell


Curry is a lot better than Irving
Thompson is light years ahead of shrumpet or smith
The sf is the only position that cavs will have the edge.. And the warriors have one of the best defensive players in the league at that position
Pf is pretty much a wash at best for the cavs
And at centre warriors are far better than the cave again

Bench the warriors are miles ahead

Coaching warriors are miles ahead


Remember the heat coasted through the east playoffs last year to be absolutely curb stomped by the Spurs...
Don't be fooled the east is absolute trash... The cavs might make it out of the East Because of this... But just like last year almost every west team would beat the cavs in a series


Warriors would absolutely stomp the cavs.. Cavs can't defend at all.. They are a horrible defensive team and the Warriors would embarrass the cavs

AI hasnt really been able to slow down Lebron in the past, so him being an elite defender is pretty irrelevant in this series to me. Cavs can only hope Shump slows Curry down the way Tony Allen has been able to, and that they can not let Klay go off as he did last night.

definitely agree that it's GSW's ring if they face up...but I wouldn't be surprised if we see some 2012 OKC-ish output where stage-fright occurs and the Cavs being victors.

as for the Heat last year being a comparison to this Cavs team, certainly not. Cavs are much younger, more athletic at positions, they have inside presence and a reliable 2nd option in Irving if he remains healthy. this Cavs team would defeat last years Heat finals team without question, even with Love missing.

[kamil]

LeBron* just has to keep using the stiff arm. It never gets called so he'd be getting consistent points.

[chips93]

Sorry dont speak 1st round exit

you only speak bandwagon, correct?

[Tarik One]

Offensively, it will be the most interesting NBA Finals since Bulls/Suns...

[Kingwillball]

I honestly can't see how anyone can think the cavs can beat gws in a series.. Without love they don't have a chance in hell


Curry is a lot better than Irving
Thompson is light years ahead of shrumpet or smith
The sf is the only position that cavs will have the edge.. And the warriors have one of the best defensive players in the league at that position
Pf is pretty much a wash at best for the cavs
And at centre warriors are far better than the cave again

Bench the warriors are miles ahead

Coaching warriors are miles ahead




Remember the heat coasted through the east playoffs last year to be absolutely curb stomped by the Spurs...
Don't be fooled the east is absolute trash... The cavs might make it out of the East Because of this... But just like last year almost every west team would beat the cavs in a series


Warriors would absolutely stomp the cavs.. Cavs can't defend at all.. They are a horrible defensive team and the Warriors would embarrass the cavs

Why don't we wait and see what happens before making up your hypothesis.warriors can have a major injury to a starter that would alter series. Just like Cavs had had going from favorites to underdogs. Fully healthy Cavs would be team to beat.

[Lebron23]

Offensively, it will be the most interesting NBA Finals since Bulls/Suns...


This

Lebron might average 32 ppg against them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HknFU_fEleY

[FLDFSU]

Gotta love ISH...it was not two days ago that GS was done and should start making arrangements for their summer plans...

Now GS is unbeatable...:facepalm

[Indian guy]

Cleveland's not beating anyone from the West in their current state of no Love an a far-from-100% Kyrie.

[JZ600]

If kyrie is healthy and lebron is lebron cavs have a chance against any west team

[toxicxr6]

Gotta love ISH...it was not two days ago that GS was done and should start making arrangements for their summer plans...

Now GS is unbeatable...:facepalm


Never said GS is unbeatable.. Just saying cavs can't beat them
Cause they won't

People are delusional if they think the cavs can beat clippers or GS.

[r15mohd]

If kyrie is healthy and lebron is lebron cavs have a chance against any west team

this...it would of been such a good Finals to see GWS vs the Cavs, with both teams at full strength. stupid Boston ruined a great matchup all-around.

[raprap]

I honestly can't see how anyone can think the cavs can beat gws in a series.. Without love they don't have a chance in hell


Curry is a lot better than Irving
Thompson is light years ahead of shrumpet or smith
The sf is the only position that cavs will have the edge.. And the warriors have one of the best defensive players in the league at that position
Pf is pretty much a wash at best for the cavs
And at centre warriors are far better than the cave again

Bench the warriors are miles ahead

Coaching warriors are miles ahead


Remember the heat coasted through the east playoffs last year to be absolutely curb stomped by the Spurs...
Don't be fooled the east is absolute trash... The cavs might make it out of the East Because of this... But just like last year almost every west team would beat the cavs in a series


Warriors would absolutely stomp the cavs.. Cavs can't defend at all.. They are a horrible defensive team and the Warriors would embarrass the cavs
Lol@ you saying that GSW has one of the best defensive sf in the league and ignore the fact that the Cavs have Shumpert.


Im not saying that the Cavs will win, but I certainly give them a fighting chance. Lots of factor going into a finals series. The Clippers would actually be more tougher for the Cavs at a matchup standpoint.

[LemonMan]

Gotta love ISH...it was not two days ago that GS was done and should start making arrangements for their summer plans...

Now GS is unbeatable...:facepalm
:roll:

[ShawkFactory]

I wouldn't rule it out. There's nothing intimidating about GS to the Cavs. Not like the Spurs would have been.

More realistically though I see GS in 6. Lebron goes off and Cleveland steals one in GS. Then they win one at home because GS is off.

[chairman]

Cleveland won't even make the finals

:lol

[TheMan]

Either the Clippers, GSW and even MEM would beat the Cavs. First they got to make the Finals though, WSH or ATL could beat CLE IMO.

[scm5]

Lol@ you saying that GSW has one of the best defensive sf in the league and ignore the fact that the Cavs have Shumpert.


Im not saying that the Cavs will win, but I certainly give them a fighting chance. Lots of factor going into a finals series. The Clippers would actually be more tougher for the Cavs at a matchup standpoint.

Green is a lot better than Shumpert both offensively and defensively.

Shumpert is one of the better defensive guards in the league, but he's worse than Tony Allen on offense and he's no Tony Allen on defense.

[Cocaine80s]

Green is a lot better than Shumpert both offensively and defensively.

Shumpert is one of the better defensive guards in the league, but he's worse than Tony Allen on offense and he's no Tony Allen on defense.
proof you don't even watch him play :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[RoseCity07]

I think with Kevin Love they could. Rebounding is important. Kyrie can go off on Curry. Lebron can shut Klay Thompson down easily. The benches though.

Warriors got them there.

[Solefade]

it would take a herculean effort from lebron and kyrie to beat the warriors, it's def possible

[PsychoBe]

wont get past atlanta

[fragokota]

it would take a herculean effort from lebron and kyrie to beat the warriors, it's def possible

As it is right now it's impossible. However, Warriors have remained injury-free almost all year ( probably thanks to their minute management and depth), we don't know how they would respond if a key member got injured ( Curry, Thompson, Bogut, Green). The only way we could have a close series in the Finals right now is if the Western teams are not healthy (Clipps, GSW).

[Solefade]

As it is right now it's impossible. However, Warriors have remained injury-free almost all year ( probably thanks to their minute management and depth), we don't know how they would respond if a key member got injured ( Curry, Thompson, Bogut, Green). The only way we could have a close series in the Finals right now is if the Western teams are not healthy (Clipps, GSW).


impossible is a strong word, it's very possible that jumpshots for GSW might just stop falling for a key stretch

[fragokota]

impossible is a strong word, it's very possible that jumpshots for GSW might just stop falling for a key stretch

It was a hyperbole, very slim chances though. Healthy Cavs, it's a different story.

[raprap]

Green is a lot better than Shumpert both offensively and defensively.

Shumpert is one of the better defensive guards in the league, but he's worse than Tony Allen on offense and he's no Tony Allen on defense.
The original post I wad replying to stated that the only advantage the cavs have is @ the sf position but it would somehow be nullified because gsw has one of the best defensive sf in the league. Nobody was talking about offense.

So basically LeBron would be nullified by either Barnes/Iggy/ Green but Klay wouldn't be even though the Cavs have Shumpert/Smith. Again, I'm talking about the post I was replying to originally.