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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-17-2015, 06:49 PM
Heavy favorites going into game 6 (SportsNation crowning CP as a WC Finalist), up by 20 in the 4th quarter with a chance to put away the series, and the Clippers literally collapse. And by collapse, I mean Chris Paul and Griffin looked like the NBA players in Space Jam who lost their skills.

I want to say LeBron, but damn.. the Clippers really ****ing blew it.

Lebron23
05-17-2015, 06:51 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006

Magic 32
05-17-2015, 06:51 PM
Lebron was healthy.

Lebron had HC

The best player in the series was Lebron's teammate.

It's the ultimate choke.

DFish24
05-17-2015, 06:51 PM
Bran's is easily the bigger choke. Dancing on stage talking about winning 7 rings. Heck if Ray misses that shot Bran would still be a bigger choker than CP3.

zoom17
05-17-2015, 06:53 PM
wtf kind of question is this there have been only 9 teams in NBA history to come back from being down 3-1 :facepalm

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-17-2015, 06:54 PM
Lebron was healthy.

Lebron had HC

The best player in the series was Lebron's teammate.

It's the ultimate choke.
CP looked healthy after sitting out the first 2 games, but good points. The fact Wade played well makes it that much worse.

wtf kind of question is this there have been only 9 teams in NBA history to come back from being down 3-1 :facepalm
Find something equivalent to Game 6, and maybe you would have a point.

sd3035
05-17-2015, 06:58 PM
Lebaldo still has the biggest choke but the Clippers almost dethroned him

guy
05-17-2015, 07:01 PM
Teams have comeback from big leads before. Lebrons 2011 collapse is unprecedented. The production dropoff was unheard of. Lebron, Kobe, Dirk have all had comebacks against them like that.

ImKobe
05-17-2015, 07:01 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006

except Kobe hit the go-ahead shot and another one to put up them up by 3 before two of his teammates gave up two wide open 3s which lost them the game..

Taller than CP3
05-17-2015, 07:01 PM
Finals have more importance than the Second Round.

Clippers choking isn't even comparable to Lebron going 0/2 at the time

Bobcats2013
05-17-2015, 07:02 PM
This is the biggest choke job of all time. In 6 games, there are 24 quarters. The Clippers outplayed the Rockets in 21 of them, but those 3 quarters where the Clippers didn't play good turned out to be the most important of them all.

Heavincent
05-17-2015, 07:27 PM
The Clippers were up 3-1 and had a 19 point lead late in the third quarter of game 6.

It's hard to think of a bigger choke job throughout NBA history.

SugarHill
05-17-2015, 07:35 PM
The Clippers were up 3-1 and had a 19 point lead late in the third quarter of game 6.

It's hard to think of a bigger choke job throughout NBA history.
http://i.imgur.com/TyjUJTH.gif

this

Angel Face
05-17-2015, 07:45 PM
2011 Lebron literally shat his pants

imnew09
05-17-2015, 07:47 PM
C'mon man

http://i.imgur.com/pSngI.jpg

SouBeachTalents
05-17-2015, 07:47 PM
LeBron's 2011 Finals is unquestionably the biggest choke by a player in NBA history. It's debatable whether or not a team choked worse than the Clippers did this series

sd3035
05-17-2015, 07:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TyjUJTH.gif


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Collie
05-17-2015, 07:53 PM
This chokejob will be forgotten in a few years since none of the Clippers stars actually played that badly. The 2011 will be remembered.

Lebron23
05-17-2015, 07:59 PM
This chokejob will be forgotten in a few years since none of the Clippers stars actually played that badly. The 2011 will be remembered.


And Lebron won back to back NBA titles. Soon to be 3 this year. LeBron > CP3. Deal With It.

Spurs5Rings2014
05-17-2015, 08:03 PM
And Lebron won back to back NBA titles. Soon to be 3 this year. LeBron > CP3. Deal With It.

Bookmarked.

Lebron23
05-17-2015, 08:04 PM
Bookmarked.


I like their chances this season. I am more afraid of the Grizzlies with a healthy Tony Allen, and the Spurs. Now both of these teams were eliminated in the playoffs.

DMAVS41
05-17-2015, 08:38 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006

Choking generally involves being up or having such a more dominant team or lead that it would be shocking to lose.

I don't see any of those you listed really being good candidates. Definitely not Kobe.

Rose choked at the end of those games, but losing that series was not a choke.

Dirk played like shit, but his team was never up in that series and only like 2 games were close. And in one of them (game 5) Dirk was amazing down the stretch.


Lebron in 11 and this Clippers team are two of the biggest chokes I can remember....way bigger than the 3 you listed.

NumberSix
05-17-2015, 08:40 PM
1995 Bulls/Magic series

guy
05-17-2015, 08:57 PM
Choking generally involves being up or having such a more dominant team or lead that it would be shocking to lose.

I don't see any of those you listed really being good candidates. Definitely not Kobe.

Rose choked at the end of those games, but losing that series was not a choke.

Dirk played like shit, but his team was never up in that series and only like 2 games were close. And in one of them (game 5) Dirk was amazing down the stretch.


Lebron in 11 and this Clippers team are two of the biggest chokes I can remember....way bigger than the 3 you listed.

The Mavs won 25 more games then the Warriors that year. That's pretty clearly a choke. That wide of a disparity with an upset is traditionally considered a choke. Maybe if you want to have a different definition, which is fine since there's no real definition, sure.

guy
05-17-2015, 09:02 PM
And Lebron won back to back NBA titles. Soon to be 3 this year. LeBron > CP3. Deal With It.

Yea that's how big of a choke it is. He won back to back and it still can't be forgotten.

WadeStan
05-17-2015, 09:22 PM
As much as I blame Lebron for robbing Wade of his 2nd FMVP, what's working against Paul, Blake and the Clips is this: Most times chokes involve a combination of your own bungles, and brilliance of the other team. At least the Spurs in 2013 (up 3-2), the Heat in 2011 (though 2-1 isn't anywhere near as bad as 3-1), or Mavs in 06 etc lost to all time greats doing their thing. Spurs got sunk by Ray and Lebron in game 6, the Mavs to Wade etc... The Clippers choked up 3-1 and up 19 to the likes of Josh Smith and Corey Brewer. Apart from this last game, Harden wasn't even the 3rd best performer on his team. I repeat, the Clippers got sunk by Josh Smith.

Megabox!
05-17-2015, 09:36 PM
One is a choke on an individual level while the other is a choke as a collective team. It's not that hard to comprehend...

DMAVS41
05-17-2015, 09:37 PM
The Mavs won 25 more games then the Warriors that year. That's pretty clearly a choke. That wide of a disparity with an upset is traditionally considered a choke. Maybe if you want to have a different definition, which is fine since there's no real definition, sure.

Even that is misleading though. The Warriors were literally injured all year and made trades as well.

Baron missed 20 games
Jackson missed only played 38 games (trade)
Richardson missed 31 games
Harrington played 42 games (trade)
Piteous missed 10 games

I mean....you are looking at a completely different team in the playoffs than you saw throughout roughly half the season.

They went 36-27 in games Baron played.

Now, I'm not saying they were the best team in the league or something, but they weren't a 42 win team when right. That was at least a 50 win team when healthy.

Also, I invite you to take a look at the Mavs roster. The 67 wins in the regular season while playing in a weak NBA for that year just isn't a great indicator of how good a team is.

Mavs also had a terrible coach in Avery.

Again, call it what you will. Just not sure a choke is the right word considering the Mavs didn't have a far better roster, had a worse coach, and never led in the series.

To me it's just a player/team/coach playing like shit.

TheBigVeto
05-17-2015, 09:47 PM
Kobe Bryant in 2006

This is the correct answer.

NBASTATMAN
05-17-2015, 09:51 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006


kOBE AND SHAQ 2004,

bballnoob1192
05-17-2015, 10:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TyjUJTH.gif

this
lmfao moe strikes again. can these clowns and chokers leave LA already. they are an embarrassment to the city.

FreezingTsmoove
05-17-2015, 10:35 PM
C'mon man

http://i.imgur.com/pSngI.jpg

4 FG's in 5 4th quarters :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

IN THE NBA FINALS :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Rose'sACL
05-17-2015, 10:37 PM
kobe's 2004 finals. surprised no one has said that.

ILLsmak
05-17-2015, 10:44 PM
1995 Bulls/Magic series

The reason this choke is big... even tho I can't put it entirely on CP3, for instance... is because these guys may never get over the hump.

Some people grade hard for being favorites... like Orlando and Miami, but Wade is a champion, Bron was gonna get back and win. Same with the Magic and Shaq. CP3 may never get to the Conf Finals.

That's the breaks though. It's like Dirk, you thought he was gonna go down as a choker then he just blew up. So maybe CP3 has some shit like that in him, but with each time it becomes harder.

Like I said, in all honesty... I have a dislike for CP. I hate his ball punching and his flopping. But he was crying after they beat the Spurs. I feel bad for him. He has to go home and look at his kids and they're like :coleman:

-Smak

Pointguard
05-17-2015, 10:52 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006
Some people choke and just can't function - that's the worse type of choke. Lebron in 2011 - wasn't trying hard. Lebron acted like he didn't know that he was suppose to beat the other team. Those examples aren't close.

Rose was the only one above that continued to attack. He was just missing shots. And by far he had the worse offensive coach and offensive players.

Mr Feeny
05-18-2015, 11:44 AM
except Kobe hit the go-ahead shot and another one to put up them up by 3 before two of his teammates gave up two wide open 3s which lost them the game..

And proceeded to complete the biggest chokejob in the history of basketball with 1 (!) Point in the second half of game 7 as he and his team got annihilated by Nash and his Suns:rockon:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-18-2015, 12:04 PM
Choking generally involves being up or having such a more dominant team or lead that it would be shocking to lose.

I don't see any of those you listed really being good candidates. Definitely not Kobe.

Rose choked at the end of those games, but losing that series was not a choke.

Dirk played like shit, but his team was never up in that series and only like 2 games were close. And in one of them (game 5) Dirk was amazing down the stretch.


Lebron in 11 and this Clippers team are two of the biggest chokes I can remember....way bigger than the 3 you listed.
Good points all around. I definitely don't think Kobe choked with that terrible team. Same with Dirk who apparently had off-the-court issues with his family.

As far as individual play goes, LeBron in 2011 runs away w/ the CHOKE title ... He'll never live that one down.

ApexPredator
05-18-2015, 12:07 PM
Lebron was healthy.

Lebron had HC

The best player in the series was Lebron's teammate.

It's the ultimate choke.

This.

ApexPredator
05-18-2015, 12:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TyjUJTH.gif

this

:roll: :roll: :roll:

They did better without him.

Prometheus
05-18-2015, 12:08 PM
2011 by. far. Biggest choke in history.

kennethgriffin
05-18-2015, 12:14 PM
Derrick Rose in 2011
Dirk Nowizki in 2007
Kobe Bryant in 2006


i agree.. kobe in 2006 was the biggest choke

since prime kobe is the GOAT and is expected to beat 2nd seed pheonix that had a stacked roster.

even if all kobe has is kwame/smush


thats more embarrassing than losing with a super team.

because even when lebron has all time greats beside him he's expected to lose

:lol


i swear.. the idiocy of this guy amazes me even to this day



he doesnt even realize when he's complimenting someone

Wade's Rings
05-18-2015, 12:16 PM
LeBron 2011

riseagainst
05-18-2015, 01:13 PM
2011 by far. Not close at all.

Dresta
05-18-2015, 01:22 PM
Bron's 2011 choke was one of the worst chokes in ever in professional sports...twas borderline inexplicable.

coin24
05-18-2015, 01:31 PM
Bran 2011 is the worst choke in all of sports..
Lebald23 is the same level of creepy as pauk, they still try to blame wade:oldlol:

this clippers meltdown is definitely up there though, up 3-1 and then blowing a 19 point lead in game 6:lol

kennethgriffin
05-18-2015, 01:48 PM
kobe's 2004 finals. surprised no one has said that.

payton was trash by then. malone was injured. shaq was 350 pounds. kobe was injured all year.

the lakers 3rd best player in the finals was luke walton

going up against

prime HOF wallace
prime HOF billups
prime possible HOF hamilton
prime possible HOF rasheed
prime defensive great tayshaun prince

coming off the bench

mehmet ukur ( allstar a few years later )




the pistons were the better team top to bottom

riseagainst
05-18-2015, 02:56 PM
Billups and Hamilton are not HOF worthy....

Badazzwriter
05-18-2015, 04:05 PM
Kobe Bryant in 2006
:oldlol: