Do you find this shirt offensive?

[Jameerthefear]

http://i.imgur.com/5BMdrtc.png

[DeuceWallaces]

Not personally, but I get why many do.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Not at all. That's a cool ass shirt if you ask me. I'd definitely rock it in a pickup basketball game... near the church.

[warriorfan]

the japs might

[ace23]

No. What's supposed to be offensive about it?

[Clyde]

Personally no.

But many people would.

Thats why they stopped selling it.

[SugarHill]

No. What's supposed to be offensive about it?
http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/628x471-2.jpg

references this iconic photo

[zoom17]

Nope.

[andgar923]

http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/628x471-2.jpg

references this iconic photo

Still... how is it offensive?

[ALBballer]

Not offensive.

[Le Shaqtus]

I've seen people from ISIS wearing that shirt.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yes it looks like they are stealing the hoop

Damn im racist, I read all the replies and your talking about the U.S military. Shit I thought them nikkas was jackin a hoop

I'm from the hood. Chinx Drugs seriously got killed 3 blocks away from my house today

[Jailblazers7]

Not offensive at all I'm but I understand why people did with how rabidly defense people get about the military and their heros in the US. I think it's ridiculous but America can be pretty ridiculous at times.

[CavaliersFTW]

Still... how is it offensive?
Because basketball players don't actually endure what soldiers endure.

A lot of the younger generations might not find that offensive at all. But would you really want to wear that shirt and risk ruining the day of some 90 year old guy who fought hard at Okinawa and thinks of the lives of his fellow soldiers when he sees an image like that? I personally don't find the image all that offensive but I suppose if I was said old guy it might not make me feel that good seeing it copied for the sake of some gimmicky kids basketball shirt.

[Jameerthefear]

Because basketball players don't actually endure what soldiers endure.

A lot of the younger generations might not find that offensive at all. But would you really want to wear that shirt and risk ruining the day of some 90 year old guy who fought hard at Okinawa and thinks of the lives of his fellow soldiers when he sees an image like that? I personally don't find the image all that offensive but I suppose if I was said old guy it might not make me feel that good seeing it copied for the sake of some gimmicky kids basketball shirt.
What :oldlol: Man this was a dumb post

[CavaliersFTW]

What :oldlol: Man this was a dumb post
Jam, you've got a cartoon made about you:

https://youtu.be/8mQScjlXbBE?t=1m4s

[andgar923]

Because basketball players don't actually endure what soldiers endure.

A lot of the younger generations might not find that offensive at all. But would you really want to wear that shirt and risk ruining the day of some 90 year old guy who fought hard at Okinawa and thinks of the lives of his fellow soldiers when he sees an image like that? I personally don't find the image all that offensive but I suppose if I was said old guy it might not make me feel that good seeing it copied for the sake of some gimmicky kids basketball shirt.

I would think that old guy wouldn't be ***** enough to get offended over that. It aint like they're pissing on it or insulting it in any way.

Im sure most vets understand that they fought for our freedom of expression/speech. They might be the first ones to support the t-shirt.

[CavaliersFTW]

I would think that old guy wouldn't be ***** enough to get offended over that. It aint like they're pissing on it or insulting it in any way.

Im sure most vets understand that they fought for our freedom of expression/speech. They might be the first ones to support the t-shirt.
True

[Akrazotile]

It's a ****ing T-shirt. There's nothing even remotely in bad taste about it. It's not making light of anyone's "sacrifice" it's just a clever play on an iconic image.

Anyone who actually fought in Iwo Jima would have to be, what, 90 years old now?? When would they ever even see someone wearing this shirt?

It's so embarrassing that no matter what you do these days, there will always be some people who pretend to be offended for attention, and that businesses actually screech to a friggin halt over it.

[Jameerthefear]

It's a ****ing T-shirt. There's nothing even remotely in bad taste about it. It's not making light of anyone's "sacrifice" it's just a clever play on an iconic image.

Anyone who actually fought in Iwo Jima would have to be, what, 90 years old now?? When would they ever even see someone wearing this shirt?

It's so embarrassing that no matter what you do these days, there will always be some people who pretend to be offended for attention, and that businesses actually screech to a friggin halt over it.
Blame the military worshippers

[DonDadda59]

I'm from the hood. Chinx Drugs seriously got killed 3 blocks away from my house today

There's nothing 'hood' about Briarwood :coleman:

[andgar923]

Blame the military worshippers

the irony is, the vets themselves wouldn't be offended (for the most part), they rarely are.

And it usually isn't their families either (again... for the most part).

It's usually fake outrage.

[DeuceWallaces]

My grandpa held his friend in his arms while he died on that island. Relating it to a team sport or a pickup game is offensive to him and others.

Not to me, but them. I don't care if they made the shirt, and I think it's a cool shirt, but no one should be surprised by the response the military and especially veterans of Iwo Jima/WWII have to seeing it.

[Akrazotile]

Blame the military worshippers


In this instance, a small handful of them are probably responsible.

But in general, it seems as though being offended is the new way for people to gain some sort of recognition/attention when they otherwise have nothing of merit to offer. Be the guy who yells "OMG, that's offensive!" and everyone will think you're on some next level enlightenment, like super duper progressive intellect.

Whatever happened to the days of accusing someone of witchcraft, or telling people they'd burn in hell for their sins when you wanted to soapbox? What, we're too good for that now??

We have gone past the event horizon here, people.

[Jameerthefear]

My grandpa held his friend in his arms while he died on that island. Relating it to a team sport or a pickup game is offensive to him and others.

Not to me, but them. I don't care if they made the shirt, and I think it's a cool shirt, but no one should be surprised by the response the military and especially veterans of Iwo Jima/WWII have to seeing it.
I don't care. :confusedshrug:

[CavaliersFTW]

the irony is, the vets themselves wouldn't be offended (for the most part), they rarely are.

And it usually isn't their families either (again... for the most part).

It's usually fake outrage.
To be honest I don't think it's fake. At least not all of it. Some of my friends on Facebook that have served or are serving in the military do seem pretty uptight about the world around them misusing or disrespecting Military related things.

For example one of my friends posted this a few weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KgnVpxnNU

When I saw it I thought damn that dude is overreacting. But they didn't, they thought that homeless guy deserves to get his ass beat and the veteran was their hero of the day.

[Akrazotile]

My grandpa held his friend in his arms while he died on that island. Relating it to a team sport or a pickup game is offensive to him and others.

Not to me, but them. I don't care if they made the shirt, and I think it's a cool shirt, but no one should be surprised by the response the military and especially veterans of Iwo Jima/WWII have to seeing it.


Damn, when was this? Like a week ago?

Come to think of it, yeah, I can see why a T-shirt would cut deep. Obviously, the wound is still fresh.

[andgar923]

To be honest I don't think it's fake. At least not all of it. Some of my friends on Facebook that have served or are serving in the military do seem pretty uptight about the world around them misusing or disrespecting Military related things.

For example one of my friends posted this a few weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KgnVpxnNU

When I saw it I thought damn that dude is overreacting. But they didn't, they thought that homeless guy deserves to get his ass beat and the veteran was their hero of the day.

That's completely different.

Shit... Im pissed off about that, and Im not one of them flag waving 'patriots'.

I respect the shit out of vets (although I think they're pawns, but that's for a different argument), I still applaud what they have to endure. Impersonating a pat is a bitch move.

Fck that poser.

[Patrick Chewing]

Still... how is it offensive?


Because it is an iconic photo and an iconic moment in history for the men and women who fought bravely during WWII.

It represents courage and triumph despite the tumultuous world around them.


While I think UA has created a unique way to market a shirt, I can understand why some Veterans may be offended as it mimics this moment in history in a semi-satirical way.

[DeuceWallaces]

Damn, when was this? Like a week ago?

Come to think of it, yeah, I can see why a T-shirt would cut deep. Obviously, the wound is still fresh.

You don't forget your friends dying.

[andgar923]

Because it is an iconic photo and an iconic moment in history for the men and women who fought bravely during WWII.

It represents courage and triumph despite the tumultuous world around them.


While I think UA has created a unique way to market a shirt, I can understand why some Veterans may be offended as it mimics this moment in history in a semi-satirical way.

But it's not close to satire.

More of an homage, which is why I don't see why it's offensive at all. I understand the moment it emulates, but I see this as an homage.

[CavaliersFTW]

But it's not close to satire.

More of an homage, which is why I don't see why it's offensive at all. I understand the moment it emulates, but I see this as an homage.
I don't think a single person who would have been involved with Iwo Jima would look at that as an homage, it's a company is trying to make financial gain with it. You really think the artist who made that was thinking homage?

[Patrick Chewing]

But it's not close to satire.

More of an homage, which is why I don't see why it's offensive at all. I understand the moment it emulates, but I see this as an homage.


Oh it's definitely satirical, but to each his own. Like some of us have said, we could see where this "homage" as you say may strike a nerve, especially if someone you knew died during the battle of Iwo Jima.

Some things in life are sacred to some people. And that moment in time could be sacred to some and they would be offended by it.

[NumberSix]

http://i.imgur.com/5BMdrtc.png
Why am I supposed to be seeing here? Is it associating blacks with basketball that is supposed be offensive?

[Jameerthefear]

Oh it's definitely satirical, but to each his own. Like some of us have said, we could see where this "homage" as you say may strike a nerve, especially if someone you knew died during the battle of Iwo Jima.

Some things in life are sacred to some people. And that moment in time could be sacred to some and they would be offended by it.
Funny how you're usually "anti-liberal" about this type of shit but soon as it attack "muh military" you're offended.

[Jameerthefear]

Why am I supposed to be seeing here? Is it associating blacks with basketball that is supposed be offensive?
No... we don't even know if those guys are black... some people think it's offensive because it "mocks" that flag raising shit in iwo jima

[andgar923]

I don't think a single person who would have been involved with Iwo Jima would look at that as an homage, it's a company is trying to make financial gain with it. You really think the artist who made that was thinking homage?

Depends on who it was.

The courts/streets are seen as 'concrete jungles'. A court is where people from the inner city escape and try to find a life out.

I see that shirt as a group of players coming together to overcome whatever obstacles they may face in life. They're trying to put up a court, to escape and live.

I might be looking too deep into it, but I can see that as being a motive.

[Patrick Chewing]

Funny how you're usually "anti-liberal" about this type of shit but soon as it attack "muh military" you're offended.


Take your meds little boy. And my two posts clearly defined why some people may find it offensive. Nowhere did I say or imply that I was offended. Critical thinking skills. You lack it.

[Jameerthefear]

Take your meds little boy. And my two posts clearly defined why some people may find it offensive. Nowhere did I say or imply that I was offended. Critical thinking skills. You lack it.
But it's just a small group of people right? How many people are there in the U.S. living that have fought in that war? Not many. Aren't we catering to a small % of people like you've said before? :confusedshrug:

[Akrazotile]

I'm offended by how wack it is

What dummy wears this shirt?



:rolleyes:

[Patrick Chewing]

But it's just a small group of people right? How many people are there in the U.S. living that have fought in that war? Not many. Aren't we catering to a small % of people like you've said before? :confusedshrug:


Who's catering? Is Under Armour canceling the shirt?


Yes, a small remaining percentage of people may be offended who were actually there, but remember that there is a membership of Armed Forces personnel both past and present that probably numbers in the hundreds of millions. They're all one family and even though they didn't fight in Iwo Jima, they are above silly satirical shirts and understand the significance of that iconic image. It's not that hard to understand.

If you want my opinion, Under Armour is a billion dollar company. They can do pretty much whatever they want. Just don't be surprised if some people are offended by the shirt. That's all.

[iamgine]

They use that picture without paying royalty $$$ to the vets?

Of course they'd get offended.

[plowking]

People need to stop being so finicky and over sensitive in general. How the hell are you going to let another person/image/thought impact you that much?

People like to talk about pride, respect, etc. It isn't even about that. People just like to inherently think their opinion and feelings are more valued, and should be more valued than the next man. Let go, get over it, and move on.

[CavaliersFTW]

People need to stop being so finicky and over sensitive in general. How the hell are you going to let another person/image/thought impact you that much?

People like to talk about pride, respect, etc. It isn't even about that. People just like to inherently think their opinion and feelings are more valued, and should be more valued than the next man. Let go, get over it, and move on.
So how do you feel about the whole stolen valor thing in the U.S.? (People pretending to be vets/soldiers, for money, to get a job, or even merely some attention)

There are TONS of videos all over YouTube of soldiers and veterans taking offense to it and trying to expose the fakers.

[Akrazotile]

Who's catering? Is Under Armour canceling the shirt?


Yes, a small remaining percentage of people may be offended who were actually there, but remember that there is a membership of Armed Forces personnel both past and present that probably numbers in the hundreds of millions. They're all one family and even though they didn't fight in Iwo Jima, they are above silly satirical shirts and understand the significance of that iconic image. It's not that hard to understand.

If you want my opinion, Under Armour is a billion dollar company. They can do pretty much whatever they want. Just don't be surprised if some people are offended by the shirt. That's all.


Yes.

[Patrick Chewing]

People need to stop being so finicky and over sensitive in general.



Tell that to him....

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Iwo+Jima+Veterans+Honored+65th+Anniversary+XawACNw-XKHl.jpg


How the hell are you going to let another person/image/thought impact you that much?

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/09/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-S33882_Adolf_Hitler_retouched-e1378954526244.jpg

http://www.jewishnews.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/nazi-460x250.jpg


Explain that to her....

http://misscoleholocaustwebquest.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/2/6662689/560444142.jpg

[plowking]

Tell that to him....



I'm talking more about the fake outrage idiots. The ones that haven't been impacted by it. Not the ones that will have legitimate PTSD from it.

[Jameerthefear]

Tell that to him....

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Iwo+Jima+Veterans+Honored+65th+Anniversary+XawACNw-XKHl.jpg



http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/09/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-S33882_Adolf_Hitler_retouched-e1378954526244.jpg

http://www.jewishnews.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/nazi-460x250.jpg


Explain that to her....

http://misscoleholocaustwebquest.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/2/6662689/560444142.jpg
Man you're dumb

[CavaliersFTW]

Man you're dumb
https://youtu.be/8mQScjlXbBE?t=1m4s

[plowking]

So how do you feel about the whole stolen valor thing in the U.S.? (People pretending to be vets/soldiers, for money, to get a job, or even merely some attention)

There are TONS of videos all over YouTube of soldiers and veterans taking offense to it and trying to expose the fakers.

A bunch of weirdos wearing uniforms trying to get props? That is on them. If they want to, whatever. They're stupid for it.

If the homeless dude is wearing it trying to live and get some money for food... what a crime...

[Jameerthefear]

https://youtu.be/8mQScjlXbBE?t=1m4s
CuckFTW

[Godzuki]

would it be racist if it were designed by a black guy? :confusedshrug:

[Bandito]

Damn, when was this? Like a week ago?

Come to think of it, yeah, I can see why a T-shirt would cut deep. Obviously, the wound is still fresh.
You obviously lived a priviliged life. Dumbest post of this thread.

[32jazz]

http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/628x471-2.jpg

references this iconic photo


An iconic photo that was staged by photographers?

I am quite certain that this 'flag raising' was staged by journalists wanting a good photo op .


The military worshippers are part of the reason that its nearly impossible to reign in the Military industrial complex'

[BurningHammer]

An iconic photo that was staged by photographers?

I am quite certain that this 'flag raising' was staged by journalists wanting a good photo op .


The military worshippers are part of the reason that its nearly impossible to reign in the Military industrial complex'
The pic screwed survivors of those soldiers' lives up til their last days as well.

I'm more offended by the original pic than the parody of it.

[Akrazotile]

You obviously lived a priviliged life. Dumbest post of this thread.

Hot tub, pool, and maid service en suite inside your head.

[ace23]

Hot tub, pool, and maid service en suite inside your head.
:oldlol:

[ApexPredator]

An iconic photo that was staged by photographers?



This. I don't find the photo offensive at all.

[DeuceWallaces]

An iconic photo that was staged by photographers?

I am quite certain that this 'flag raising' was staged by journalists wanting a good photo op .


The military worshippers are part of the reason that its nearly impossible to reign in the Military industrial complex'

There's no evidence it was staged.

[Akrazotile]

Dude in the back not doin shit just wanted to be part of the shot

You know his boys dogged him forever on that


Dude?

Dont make innocuous jokes about something that happened 70 years ago.

Have a little respect.

[Levity]

i find this very offensive. it's obviously alluding to the looting and violence going on in baltimore. shame under armour, shame....

[Bandito]

Hot tub, pool, and maid service en suite inside your head.
:lol