Deandre Jordan wants 5/$100m

[UK2K]

Is he worth it? I think so.

[Genaro]

And he prob will get it.

[Fallen Angel]

I think not unless you're desperate for a guy that can catch a lob. He still is a bad defender in the post and can't hit FTs, not worth it. I'm better off saving my money.

If I'm the Clippers you HAVE to pay for him or lost any opportunity to get a legit center with that size, strength, and jumping ability.

[ApexPredator]

He'll get it. Clips will eventually struggle to be a good cast around CP3, Blake, and DeAndre with the money they get, so they need to step their game up so that vets will be willing to sign with the Clips for cheap.

[UK2K]

I think not unless you're desperate for a guy that can catch a lob. He still is a bad defender in the post and can't hit FTs, not worth it. I'm better off saving my money.

If I'm the Clippers you HAVE to pay for him or lost any opportunity to get a legit center with that size, strength, and jumping ability.

He'd be a perfect fit in Dallas if they were able to land a halfway decent PG.

[Smook A.]

Is he worth it? F*ck no.
Will he get it? There's a chance

[mark]

He'd be a perfect fit in Dallas if they were able to land a halfway decent PG.


Yeah sounds like Rondo may be hanging with Odom. Dallas rejects lol
Lots of rumors Pail feuded with Griffin as well. I wonder if Rivers would back up anyone other than Paul because he was a guard too. Reddick as a primary tool in anyone's offense what a joke. They need to upgrade badly.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I think he's worth it.

[kennethgriffin]

hes worth it... imagine if blake wasnt there and it was cp3 to jordan all game. he'd average 18ppg just off dunks

[L8krH8tr]

guy is a cancer on the free throw line, i dont care if he was good as shaq. thats unacceptable. Do not pay him that much.

[COnDEMnED]

Don't think he's worth it to the clippers, but not sure they can find or afford anyone better. No cap, no picks, no bench. Rock and a hard place. Playoff purgatory for the foreseeable future.

[UK2K]

hes worth it... imagine if blake wasnt there and it was cp3 to jordan all game. he'd average 18ppg just off dunks

Every NBA2k15 association I make, he's always the first person I pick up.

He's a beast. Like a bot video game player. Does everything well, just dont get fouled.

Even at $20m THIS year, he'd be worth it. $20m 5 years from now, he will be a bargain.

He's the perfect C for today's NBA.

[disel]

Dallas

[outbreak]

He said he wants Dallas and I can see them paying that.

[k0kakw0rld]

He can't shoot fts he's not worth anything, at least Dwight led a team to the finals.

[Big Cheese]

if the clippers arent giving him 5/100 yr someone will.

[longtime lurker]

He said he wants Dallas and I can see them paying that.

I can't imagine Dirk taking a pay cut just to sign Deandre Jordan to 20 million a year.

[Derka]

He'll get it and I don't doubt Ballmer will give it to him.

[clipps]

He's insane to watch, but his basketball IQ is terrible. When he tried to tear the rim off on the wide open lob and missed the dunk during the Clippers comeback attempt:facepalm

[StrongLurk]

Are posters serious about saying he deserves it? Wow.

Jordan is so overrated man. Dude can literally only dunk, rebound and get some blocks. And that's worth 20 million for 5 years?

Hell Lebron has barely made that much per year recently.

I think the Clippers would be better of replacing Jordan anyways. He is an idiot with low BBIQ and shoots free throws worse than autistic kids.

[JellyBean]

Is he worth it? I think so.


Awww No. But I am sure some team is going to pay him that much.

[ApexPredator]

guy is a cancer on the free throw line, i dont care if he was good as shaq. thats unacceptable. Do not pay him that much.
:biggums:

[Eric Cartman]

Deandre is getting whatever he wants from the Clippers, won't win shit though.

[QuebecBaller]

I think not unless you're desperate for a guy that can catch a lob. He still is a bad defender in the post and can't hit FTs, not worth it. I'm better off saving my money.

If I'm the Clippers you HAVE to pay for him or lost any opportunity to get a legit center with that size, strength, and jumping ability.

You can have McGee to do that, and he'll cost less that DeAn

[jimmy77x]

Wow all you have to do is grow to 7 feet be moderately athletic and posses absolutely no offensive skill and make 20m per year. Life is good for 7 footers.

[HurricaneKid]

if the clippers arent giving him 5/100 yr someone will.

Not possible.

If the Clippers don't give it to him the most years someone can give him is 4 years.

[Eric Cartman]

Wow all you have to do is grow to 7 feet be moderately athletic and posses absolutely no offensive skill and make 20m per year. Life is good for 7 footers.

Deandre has GOAT level athleticism.

[Optimus Prime]

And he'll probably get it, though the smart thing for him to do is take a 2-year max offer from whatever team he wants to play for with a player option for year 2 so he can really get paid once the cap skyrockets with a new max 5 year deal.

[Big Cheese]

Not possible.

If the Clippers don't give it to him the most years someone can give him is 4 years.

i meant someone will give him 20 mil per :lol

[r0drig0lac]

it is worth it

[uber]

guy is a cancer on the free throw line, i dont care if he was good as shaq. thats unacceptable. Do not pay him that much.

if he was as good as shaq somebody already would have given him twice this money

[Optimus Prime]

Silver is going to bail him out in regards to the free throw problem due to all the beta whining anyway, so that is a non-issue.

:facepalm

[gts]

He's worth it... in two years that won't be near a max contact...

[gts]

Silver is going to bail him out in regards to the free throw problem due to all the beta whining anyway, so that is a non-issue.

:facepalm

Owners have already decided (last week) to do nothing about the current free throw situation...

[The_Yearning]

SA would have 4-1 the Clippers without Jordan.

[Adam Silver]

Silver is going to bail him out in regards to the free throw problem due to all the beta whining anyway, so that is a non-issue.

:facepalm

Doesn't impact my money, so why should I care?

[Dr Seuss]

Owners have already decided (last week) to do nothing about the current free throw situation...

until he signs with dallas, and cuban immediately writes a letter to the nba about changing the hack-a move to save the "integrity" of the game. :lol

[Eric Cartman]

Doesn't impact my money, so why should I care?

Right on comish

F*ck the Clippers!

[Dr Seuss]

Wow all you have to do is grow to 7 feet .

yeah, sounds pretty simple, huh.

[TheReal Kendall]

Not worth it. He's just a younger Tyson Chandler.

[NumberSix]

If you even have to ask if Deandre Jordan is a $20 million a year player........

[lilteapot]

guy is a cancer on the free throw line, i dont care if he was good as shaq. thats unacceptable. Do not pay him that much.
So you wouldn't pay Shaq 5/100m? Are you retarded?

[noob cake]

Someone will pay DeAndre 100m.

With the increased cap, 20m is a slight overpay but Deandre is only 26.

[edrick]

I'd say there's about a 42% chance.

[Thunderfan86]

yeah, sounds pretty simple, huh.
I know right :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[dreamwarrior]

He is awesome defensively. Maybe another team out there can teach him how to hit FT's

[DukeDelonte13]

He is awesome defensively. Maybe another team out there can teach him how to hit FT's

he was so awesome defensively that post back surgery Dwight took a dump on him.

[warriorfan]

Not worth it. He's just a younger Tyson Chandler.


Tyson Chandler is a way smarter defender

[Fallen Angel]

He's a way better help defender than Javale McGee, but both are equally bad post defenders.

Both only catch lobs, but Jordan is stronger and is able to clear space on the PnR and when rebounding (although he uses his athleticism to rebound rather than technique).

[Fallen Angel]

He is awesome defensively. Maybe another team out there can teach him how to hit FT's
You can't teach a center to FTs and expect his %s to go from the 30 percentile to the 60 percentile.

It just doesn't happen.

[oarabbus]

You can't teach a center to FTs and expect his %s to go from the 30 percentile to the 60 percentile.

It just doesn't happen.


Unless the guy's name is Tiago Splitter. Then it definitely happens.

[UK2K]

he was so awesome defensively that post back surgery Dwight took a dump on him.

He did what now?

Dwight
18, 14, 2blks, 59%/39%, 34mpg

Jordan
14, 13, 2blks, 72%/46%

And Dwight was averaging 17 and 13 in 27mpg BEFORE he played LAC. Do the per 36 math (or per whatever math), Dwight's numbers were slightly down in the 7 games against LAC versus the 8 games before it.

[T_L_P]

Meh. I wouldn't give it to him (though maybe I would if there's a guarantee that Paul would be his PG), but it's not terrible.

He's probably one of the 10 or 15 best defensive players in the league.

[jzek]

Remember when Shaq was worth $120M in his prime? Can't believe someone who is 1/10th of Shaq's skills is getting almost the same salary!

Such a very very very weak era we're seeing... :facepalm

[GOBB]

Has no offensive game unless he is being spoon fed like a baby
Never improved his offensive game whatsoever
Cant make free throws
DPOY candidate but has 0 under his belt and not someone who is gonna collect them often

He's not worth it. But he will get it because hey teams have money. And they new max in the future may not look so bad? Other than that its ridiculous he can command such a number. If he was the undisputed best defensive player in the NBA? Ok, you can sell me on that and I'll overlook the other stuff. He's not.

[Fallen Angel]

Unless the guy's name is Tiago Splitter. Then it definitely happens.
http://i.gyazo.com/80c4572bab1f6647481f97c826b1ba5e.png

He has been nowhere NEAR as bad of a FT shooter than Deandre Jordan.

The difference between shooting <50% and >50% is getting intentionally hacked throughout a season.

[Fallen Angel]

Remember when Shaq was worth $120M in his prime? Can't believe someone who is 1/10th of Shaq's skills is getting almost the same salary!

Such a very very very weak era we're seeing... :facepalm
Clearly someone doesn't understand the new era CBA...

[oarabbus]

Remember when Shaq was worth $120M in his prime? Can't believe someone who is 1/10th of Shaq's skills is getting almost the same salary!

Such a very very very weak era we're seeing... :facepalm


hopefully you are trolling and not just this ignorant :facepalm




http://i.gyazo.com/80c4572bab1f6647481f97c826b1ba5e.png

He has been nowhere NEAR as bad of a FT shooter than Deandre Jordan.

The difference between shooting <50% and >50% is getting intentionally hacked throughout a season.


Hmm, good point. If there's a guy <50% it's literally bad strategy not to hack.

[Fallen Angel]

Meh. I wouldn't give it to him (though maybe I would if there's a guarantee that Paul would be his PG), but it's not terrible.

He's probably one of the 10 or 15 best defensive players in the league.
Dwight
Marc
Tyson
Bogut
Noah
Hibbert

Tony Allen
Kawhi Leonard
Trevor Ariza
Lebron James
Chris Paul
Patrick Beverley
Tim Duncan
Draymond Green
Iman Shumpert
John Wall
Anthony Davis

[Fallen Angel]

Hmm, good point. If there's a guy <50% it's literally bad strategy not to hack.
It did with Blake (even though he continued to improve his shooting)

[T_L_P]

Dwight
Marc
Tyson
Bogut
Noah
Hibbert

Tony Allen
Kawhi Leonard
Trevor Ariza
Lebron James
Chris Paul
Patrick Beverley
Tim Duncan
Draymond Green
Iman Shumpert
John Wall
Anthony Davis

Actually, my list is more like(in no particular order):

Bogut
Duncan
Draymond
Kawhi
Gobert
Favors
Allen
Chandler
Ibaka
Dwight
Davis
Mozgov
Morris
Splitter

That's just tangible defensive impact (this year I do have Jordan over Gasol and Noah). If it's relative to position, Jordan likely isn't even top 25.

He's a pretty good defensive player, but insanely overrated because of Blocks. Positional defense is arguably more valuable these days (look at Duncan and Bogut, the two best defensive players in the league), and Jordan has no idea how to position himself properly. His Post D is underwhelming, and he bites on every fake.

[UK2K]

The average pay of the top 8 centers is about 15m.

When the new CBA rules kick in, 20m will seem like 12m.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Every NBA2k15 association I make, he's always the first person I pick up.

He's a beast. Like a bot video game player. Does everything well, just dont get fouled.

Even at $20m THIS year, he'd be worth it. $20m 5 years from now, he will be a bargain.

He's the perfect C for today's NBA.

bruh just trade for Wilt McGee. Cheaper trade value, no?

[MEB2kDeez]

Wow all you have to do is grow to 7 feet be moderately athletic and posses absolutely no offensive skill and make 20m per year. Life is good for 7 footers.
Sounds like the life.

[TheBigVeto]

He's not worth it. He can't shoot FTs. He should be demoted to development league until he shoots 51% on his FTs.

[gts]

Remember when Shaq was worth $120M in his prime? Can't believe someone who is 1/10th of Shaq's skills is getting almost the same salary!

Such a very very very weak era we're seeing... :facepalm

ten years, a TV contract and two CBA's ago

[RoseCity07]

Hell no:oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

Hell no, he can't even shoot a bloody free throw.
Has no jumper.
No bball IQ.

Cool, he does some rebounds and blocks the odd shot....good luck with that, he can't even get anywhere with Blake and CP3.

Some stupid mofo will pay it.

[plowking]

Ridiculous.

Dude can't even hit 40% of his free throws. He isn't good enough at anything else to justify that kind of money. Ridiculous what borderline average players are getting paid in today's age. This is from someone who is a fan of watching him play.

[FireMcFailPlease]

He's going to cost is team a lot of games down the stretch when he's either on the bench or missing ft's. that money could be used for players that can get it done.

Whoever signs him for that much can kiss away their chances at winning.

[UK2K]

Ridiculous.

Dude can't even hit 40% of his free throws. He isn't good enough at anything else to justify that kind of money. Ridiculous what borderline average players are getting paid in today's age. This is from someone who is a fan of watching him play.
Dwight shot a worse % from the field and the line, and their stats were similar.

Is he not worth $20m? I think he is.

I think Deandre is one of the biggest game changers in the league. His presence on the floor instantly forces the offense into more difficult jump shots. Just as you have to game plan for Durant on defense, so you must alter your offense when Deandre is on the floor.

[SmackOrH.A.K]

Man all I know is he was prolly the most valuable Clipper in the 2nd round. His defense is a game changer in the playoffs

i was more relieved when he was out of the game, than chris paul or blake

[plowking]

Dwight shot a worse % from the field and the line, and their stats were similar.

Is he not worth $20m? I think he is.

I think Deandre is one of the biggest game changers in the league. His presence on the floor instantly forces the offense into more difficult jump shots. Just as you have to game plan for Durant on defense, so you must alter your offense when Deandre is on the floor.

Dwight is 5 times the player DeAndre is.

[FireMcFailPlease]

where the hell is everyone seeing Deandre is as big of a defensive gamechanger as howard???

[iamgine]

He's at the right age so he might be worth it.

He's 26, so when the terms end he'd only be 31, still right at the edge of his prime. It would be different if he's say, 28 or 29. Plus he's a DPOY candidate who just lead the league in rebounds.

[UK2K]

Dwight is 5 times the player DeAndre is.
OK, but statistically, head to head in a seven game series, they are pretty equal.

There's a reason the Clippers have had the second least amount of paint shots taken against them this year. Interesting given their style of play. The 5 worst teams are all fast paced offenses (Hou, OKC, PHX).

That's really no coincidence though considering the teams ranked near the top of 'least defensive paint shot attempts per game' are all slower paced teams with good defensive big men (ATL, IND, MEM).

So with Deandre, you get the rim protection of a Memphis or Indiana but with the speed of Houston and Phoenix. The best of both worlds.

People are afraid of Deandre. I bet % wise, the Clippers are way near the bottom in defensive paint shot attempts/total shot attempts ratio. Simply being on the floor changes their team.

[DonDadda59]

So now a poor man's Ben Wallace can expect to be paid like a franchise player?

Hell of an era we're witnessing. Hell of an era. :facepalm

[jimmy77x]

So now a poor man's Ben Wallace can expect to be paid like a franchise player?

Hell of an era we're witnessing. Hell of an era. :facepalm

:lol exactly. everyone is a "Max" player these days

[qrich]

Is he worth it, overall? Hell no.

Is he worth it, to the lack of bigs and the fact the Clippers will have no alternative options if they let him walk? Yes.

[coin24]

So now a poor man's Ben Wallace can expect to be paid like a franchise player?

Hell of an era we're witnessing. Hell of an era. :facepalm


This. Wtf is going on..

[LAZERUSS]

So now a poor man's Ben Wallace can expect to be paid like a franchise player?

Hell of an era we're witnessing. Hell of an era. :facepalm

After watching Marc Goobersol's inability to post up a 6-6 SF, I have to agree. Not only that, but how in the hell did this stumblebum win a DPOY? If Goobersol is considered one of the elite centers in the league, then this is absolutely the worst era ever for centers.

[keep-itreal]

this dude thinks he's Shaq or something :roll:

[CarlosBoozer]

All these overrated players being overpaid is pissing me off! GMs need to man up and stop signing checks that will never live up to it's value.

[andremiller07]

Clippers should sign Tyson Chandler for 1/4 of that he's smarter/tougher and can a hit a free throw and use the money leftover from not signing DJ to such a idiotic deal to invest a decent SF.

5/100 are you kidding me that's like LeBron/KD money.

But I hope the Clippers do sign him to that deal cause it would hinder them for a long time.

[Eric Cartman]

Max he could get on another team is 4 years 80 million, if he decides to go that route.

[bigkingsfan]

Elite rebounding, offensive and defensive doesn't grow on trees.

[Fallen Angel]

Elite rebounding, offensive and defensive doesn't grow on trees.
Thing is he's not an elite defender or offensive player, and he rebounds with his athleticism rather than technique (which explains his goaltending calls during the San Antonio series).

You can teach Javale McGee to be the next Deandre Jordan. The reason he hasn't is because he plays with Kenneth Faried.

[warriorfan]

Thing is he's not an elite defender or offensive player, and he rebounds with his athleticism rather than technique (which explains his goaltending calls during the San Antonio series).

You can teach Javale McGee to be the next Deandre Jordan. The reason he hasn't is because he plays with Kenneth Faried.


Wrong. You can't teach JaVale McGee to raise his rebound rate 5% at age 27. It doesn't work like that. McGee is just as athletic or even more than DeAndre but DeAndre is much more powerful and is much tougher to move out of position. It would make more sense that DeAndre could work on his defense on the mental side more so he isn't caught out of position like which happens to him more then it should. Those defensive freebies he hands out separates him from an Elite defender to just a good defender. If he can keep his focus more often he could easily be the best or close to the best rim protector in the league.



DeAndre is going to get the max and he deserves the max. He's only 26 and he is a very high impact player and some of his flaws can be worked on and hopefully improved.

[aj1987]

Christ! People actually think that DeAndre deserves KD/LeBron money?

[bigkingsfan]

Christ! People actually think that DeAndre deserves KD/LeBron money?
Lebron deserves more but there's a cap, that's why he didn't ink long term.

[dunksby]

He did what now?

Dwight
18, 14, 2blks, 59%/39%, 34mpg

Jordan
14, 13, 2blks, 72%/46%

And Dwight was averaging 17 and 13 in 27mpg BEFORE he played LAC. Do the per 36 math (or per whatever math), Dwight's numbers were slightly down in the 7 games against LAC versus the 8 games before it.
Dwight didn't face any problems from DJ playing defense on him, why do you hate Dwight?

[UK2K]

Thing is he's not an elite defender or offensive player, and he rebounds with his athleticism rather than technique (which explains his goaltending calls during the San Antonio series).

You can teach Javale McGee to be the next Deandre Jordan. The reason he hasn't is because he plays with Kenneth Faried.
You should do it then. Make a new career out if it, the center whisperer.

For every center who's become viable in the NBA, I can give you 20 others who never make it.

He's not an elite defender, but his presence alters the offense just being on the floor (as evidenced by the stats I provided).

[UK2K]

Dwight didn't face any problems from DJ playing defense on him, why do you hate Dwight?
I don't.

But if you watched every game, you would know that neither outplayed the other.

Had the clippers won, we would be talking about how Deandre is the next Dwight.

[dunksby]

I don't.

But if you watched every game, you would know that neither outplayed the other.

Had the clippers won, we would be talking about how Deandre is the next Dwight.
Dwight is an elite defender, only a dumbass would claim that, if Rockets had lost everybody would point fingers at Harden and praising CP and Blake. It's clear that you don't like him if not hate him.

[warriorfan]

Dwight is an elite defender, only a dumbass would claim that, if Rockets had lost everybody would point fingers at Harden and praising CP and Blake. It's clear that you don't like him if not hate him.


True

[UK2K]

Dwight is an elite defender, only a dumbass would claim that, if Rockets had lost everybody would point fingers at Harden and praising CP and Blake. It's clear that you don't like him if not hate him.

Series averages

Player A
18, 14, 2blks, 59%/39%, 34mpg

Player B
14, 13, 2blks, 72%/46%

Which one is miles better than the other....

I'll wait. If you take the names off the stats, the series was a fairly even match up. Dwight had the better series overall I think, but averaging 14 and 13 shooting 72% from the floor in a seven games against Dwight Howard is pretty impressive.

[warriorfan]

Series averages

Player A
18, 14, 2blks, 59%/39%, 34mpg

Player B
14, 13, 2blks, 72%/46%

Which one is miles better than the other....

I'll wait. If you take the names off the stats, the series was a fairly even match up. Dwight had the better series overall I think, but averaging 14 and 13 shooting 72% from the floor in a seven games against Dwight Howard is pretty impressive.


Why do you list mpg for only one player? I'm too lazy to look up your shit and figure out your agenda so I'm just gonna ask.

[aj1987]

Lebron deserves more but there's a cap, that's why he didn't ink long term.
$20M for a guy with a non-existent offensive game and an above average defensive game?

[warriorfan]

$20M for a guy with a non-existent offensive game and an above average defensive game?


Does today's Center really need an advanced offensive game anymore? That is more of a thing of the past. I think it's silly to call DeAndre only an above average defender. Don't forget the fact that he plays with Blake Griffin most of the time (a below average defender) and has to make up for his deficiencies. You are also ignoring that Jordan is an Elite rebounder. Sometimes fans forget that rebounding is extremely important when building a winning team.

[Fallen Angel]

Wrong. You can't teach JaVale McGee to raise his rebound rate 5% at age 27. It doesn't work like that. McGee is just as athletic or even more than DeAndre but DeAndre is much more powerful and is much tougher to move out of position. It would make more sense that DeAndre could work on his defense on the mental side more so he isn't caught out of position like which happens to him more then it should. Those defensive freebies he hands out separates him from an Elite defender to just a good defender. If he can keep his focus more often he could easily be the best or close to the best rim protector in the league.



DeAndre is going to get the max and he deserves the max. He's only 26 and he is a very high impact player and some of his flaws can be worked on and hopefully improved.
too long; can't read 3rd round fodder

[aj1987]

Does today's Center really need an advanced offensive game anymore? That is more of a thing of the past. I think it's silly to call DeAndre only an above average defender. Don't forget the fact that he plays with Blake Griffin most of the time (a below average defender) and has to make up for his deficiencies. You are also ignoring that Jordan is an Elite rebounder. Sometimes fans forget that rebounding is extremely important when building a winning team.
Dude got absolutely TORCHED by Duncan. A guy is was a "DPOY candidate". I'm not saying he's a bad defender, but he's not a DPOY level defender. Elite rebounder, above average defender, and 0 offensive game. Yeah, not worth $20M.

Oh, can't hit even 50% of his FT's, BTW.

[warriorfan]

Dude got absolutely TORCHED by Duncan. A guy is was a "DPOY candidate". I'm not saying he's a bad defender, but he's not a DPOY level defender. Elite rebounder, above average defender, and 0 offensive game. Yeah, not worth $20M.

Oh, can't hit even 50% of his FT's, BTW.


Saying you got torched by the greatest PF in the history of the game isn't a great argument to knock on someones defense.

[dunksby]

Series averages

Player A
18, 14, 2blks, 59%/39%, 34mpg

Player B
14, 13, 2blks, 72%/46%

Which one is miles better than the other....

I'll wait. If you take the names off the stats, the series was a fairly even match up. Dwight had the better series overall I think, but averaging 14 and 13 shooting 72% from the floor in a seven games against Dwight Howard is pretty impressive.
One of them is the best center in the league with elite defense, the other one is a poor man's Mcyess at best.

[warriorfan]

too long; can't read 3rd round fodder

Don't get salty with me just because you are the dumbass who said "You can teach Javale McGee to be the next Deandre Jordan."


You don't know shit about basketball. Just face the music and deal with it.

[aj1987]

Saying you got torched by the greatest PF in the history of the game isn't a great argument to knock on someones defense.
18/11/3/1/1 on 59%. Duncan didn't shoot 59% against freaking Bosh, who's a terrible interior defender. Jordan is an above average-good defender. Dude gets overrated AF because of his blocks and rebounding.

[warriorfan]

18/11/3/1/1 on 59%. Duncan didn't shoot 59% against freaking Bosh, who's a terrible interior defender. Jordan is an above average-good defender. Dude gets overrated AF because of his blocks and rebounding.


Once again regardless it's against the greatest PF in the history of the game.


Basketball isn't as simple as, "Tim Duncan shot this field goal percentage when he played against Bosh, and shot this field goal percentage when he played against DeAndre. Therefor Bosh is a better defender than DeAndre". This is an extremely shallow analysis that is mainly used when people are trolling. (I'm not accusing you of trolling, I'm just saying.)

[aj1987]

Once again regardless it's against the greatest PF in the history of the game.


Basketball isn't as simple as, "Tim Duncan shot this field goal percentage when he played against Bosh, and shot this field goal percentage when he played against DeAndre. Therefor Bosh is a better defender than DeAndre". This is an extremely shallow analysis that is mainly used when people are trolling. (I'm not accusing you of trolling, I'm just saying.)
Sure, forget about Duncan. The Clippers were 15th defensively during the RS. A DPOY level defender lead his team to a better defensive record. Don't bring up Griffin, 'cause they have another 1st Team defender in CP3. Probably the best PG defender in the league.

He was not only bad (defensively) in the first round, he was average at BEST against Houston as well.

Duncan might be the GOAT PF, but he's also 40 freaking years old. Don't forget that.

[warriorfan]

Sure, forget about Duncan. The Clippers were 15th defensively during the RS. A DPOY level defender lead his team to a better defensive record. Don't bring up Griffin, 'cause they have another 1st Team defender in CP3. Probably the best PG defender in the league.

He was not only bad (defensively) in the first round, he was average at BEST against Houston as well.

Duncan might be the GOAT PF, but he's also 40 freaking years old. Don't forget that.


When it comes to low post offense. Age doesn't really hinder you as much as it does in other aspects of the game.

Regarding the 15th best team defensive rating. I am going to bring up Griffin. It's nice that cp3 is a good defensive player but let's be serious. Which position impacts the game more on the defensive side? Your Point Guard or Power Forward? Then when we dive deeper into the roster of the Clippers you see such dudes as JJ Reddick, Jamal Crawford, and Austin Rivers. These are seriously some of the worst defenders you could come up with. Not to mention Blake Griffin's back up is Big Baby...expect to get some good help defense from him? Barnes used to be a grimy defender but with his advanced age and more minutes we aren't seeing the massive energy that used to be the name of his game.


The Clippers defensive personnel is piss poor. It's amazing that DeAndre carried them to 15th in the league.

[aj1987]

When it comes to low post offense. Age doesn't really hinder you as much as it does in other aspects of the game.

Regarding the 15th best team defensive rating. I am going to bring up Griffin. It's nice that cp3 is a good defensive player but let's be serious. Which position impacts the game more on the defensive side? Your Point Guard or Power Forward? Then when we dive deeper into the roster of the Clippers you see such dudes as JJ Reddick, Jamal Crawford, and Austin Rivers. These are seriously some of the worst defenders you could come up with. Not to mention Blake Griffin's back up is Big Baby...expect to get some good help defense from him? Barnes used to be a grimy defender but with his advanced age and more minutes we aren't seeing the massive energy that used to be the name of his game.


The Clippers defensive personnel is piss poor. It's amazing that DeAndre carried them to 15th in the league.
Look at some of the 14 teams ahead of and you'll know why DeAndre is an overrated defender. Next, download a couple of Clippers games and watch the actual games.

Once again, paying $100M to a guy who's know for nothing more than elite rebounding and above average defense is beyond ridiculous. 5 years $75M is what he deserves at the most.

[bigkingsfan]

$20M for a guy with a non-existent offensive game and an above average defensive game?
There are plenty of one trick scorers that gets pay at that amount. Nothing new really.

[warriorfan]

Look at some of the 14 teams ahead of and you'll know why DeAndre is an overrated defender. Next, download a couple of Clippers games and watch the actual games.

Once again, paying $100M to a guy who's know for nothing more than elite rebounding and above average defense is beyond ridiculous. 5 years $75M is what he deserves at the most.


Out of those 14 teams with better defense then the Clippers, how many have Centers that are pulling the weight that DeAndre has to pull on the defensive end in LA? How many of those 14 centers can you say with out a shadow of a doubt that they are better than DeAndre defensively? I have a feeling your list will be very very short.

[UK2K]

Why do you list mpg for only one player? I'm too lazy to look up your shit and figure out your agenda so I'm just gonna ask.
It was in there for a reference about Dwight's performance before and after the Clippers series.

He averaged 34 mpg against the Clips and 27mpg before the series. If you go back about two pages, you will read the point I made. His production per 36 was down during the Clippers 7 game series versus the 8 games before it.

Quit your bitching. You are like a little girl on this site.

[ISHGoat]

He deserves the ultramax, whether its 100/5 now or 150/5 later or whatever. His impact is tremendous, offensively and defensively.

Demarcus is the #1 clear cut best center in the league IMO. After him, its MGasol, DJ, and Howard all very close

[kamil]

Not worth it. Fix your fuqqin free throws first.

[AirFederer]

Not denying he's a good rebounder and defender... But dat bbiq :roll:

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah157/Keepreal123/QKN5KCL_zpsme9gcp8f.gif

Maxplayer in 2015 :facepalm

[BlackWhiteGreen]

You idiots don't understand. It isn't about comparing him to LeBron or Durant, it's about comparing him to his competition. Which is, at his position, 2 or 3 other guys - and if you're top 3 or 4 at your position, you're a max guy.

[warriorfan]

If you are the GM and let DeAndre walk through FA you should be taken out back and shot

[qrich]

18/11/3/1/1 on 59%. Duncan didn't shoot 59% against freaking Bosh, who's a terrible interior defender. Jordan is an above average-good defender. Dude gets overrated AF because of his blocks and rebounding.

Chris Paul shot 51.3% vs Leonard. Chris Paul shot 48.7% against freaking Jason Terry, who's a terrible defender.

I guess Leonard is overrated AF :confusedshrug:

[Dro]

Ehh, I'm not paying him that......

[scm5]

So the way to look at this is, since it's a 5 year deal worth $100m, his salary will start low in the beginning year and go up.

Next season the projected salary cap is $66.5m, 2016-17 is projected to be as high as $90m, and 2017-18 as high as $108m.

5 years at $100m is actually a decent price to get DJ.

Look at it this way: the salary cap this season is $63m

DJ will most likely get right around $20m during the third year of his contract, which would be 2017-18.

20/108 = 18.5% of the salary cap

18.5% of this year's salary cap ($63m) is approx $11.7m which looks really good compared to some of the contracts teams have been handing out lately.

[Dro]

So the way to look at this is, since it's a 5 year deal worth $100m, his salary will start low in the beginning year and go up.

Next season the projected salary cap is $66.5m, 2016-17 is projected to be as high as $90m, and 2017-18 as high as $108m.

5 years at $100m is actually a decent price to get DJ at if you look at it that way.

Look at it this way: the salary cap this season is $63m

DJ will most likely get right around $20m during the third year of his contract, which would be 2017-18.

20/108 = 18.5% of the salary cap

18.5% of this year's salary cap ($63m) is approx $11.7m which looks really good compared to some of the contracts teams have been handing out lately.
Well, when you put it like this....I guess so...

[SCdac]

Great big man in an era of weak big men, love his rebounding, but kinda overrated IMO. Without the alley oops not super impressed with his overall offense

[kamil]

What makes him think he deserves 100 million?

[Akrazotile]

What makes him think he deserves 100 million?



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