Why are overweight people discriminated against so much?

[Type 2]

I see people mock people who are overweight every day in person, online, and in the media. You can't go to a check stand at a grocery store without magazines for fat shaming celebrities. I see it all the time on ISH. People assume fat people are lazy no matter what the reason they are overweight. Really though, it does not matter why somebody is overweight. I even see it from people who try to claim open mindedness towards the LGBTQ community and other races/religions. They are people with feelings and they can contribute to society as much as anybody. If you participate in this fat shaming, even internally, you should really re-think your approach to life.

[BasedTom]

Hit the gym, fatboy

[sweggeh]

**** those disgusting fat bitches. Aint nothin in this world worse than a fat bitch.

[Type 2]

I'm not surprised to see the repulsive responses already coming in. Further proof that overweight people are the most discriminated against people.

[sweggeh]

Yh I discriminate. How do those fat whores have the audacity to waddle around the streets sweatin and jigglin and shit and then be talkin bout "Don't you judge me!"

Like I said, **** them and **** you too. Type 2 diabetes havin ass *****.

[aj1987]

http://i.imgur.com/bOmBCJC.jpg

[9erempiree]

There is a difference between not being liked and discrimination. I think most on ISH dislike fat people because they are the least attractive. Now as for discrimination, one can argue that fat people will not get a job because some jobs demand physical activity. If they are fat, then they probably can't handle the job, therefore they don't get hired.

Lets face it, nobody is going to hire an obese male to be a lifeguard -or- any job that requires long hours of standing. It is physically impossible for them.

[outbreak]

It seems to be fair game. I went to school with a guy who was massive, I went through primary school and high school with him and he was always that big, so was his little brother. He had some genetic condition where he put on weight and couldn't lose it (had other health issues from it too not weight related), yet people at school would bully him for about being fat. He'd barely eat and still couldn't lose the weight but it seemed fair game for people to make fun of him. I don't see how a case like that where it's genetic is any different from making fun of someone for the race they are born. I guess because most cases are just people eating junk and being lazy people like him slip through the cracks.

[HitandRun Reggie]

http://i48.tinypic.com/dmb9q8.jpg

Ain't it the truth....

[sweggeh]

Actually OP you are right. I am sorry for my comments earlier, I am having a bad day. I shouldn't have taken it out on overweight people. They deal with enough in their lives.

[Im Still Ballin]

The new gimmick has arrived

Keep eating those cheeseburgers OP

[Type 2]

http://i.imgur.com/bOmBCJC.jpg

Somebody's health is their issue and it is a serious one, but I'm obviously talking about the social aspect.

[~primetime~]

Because MOST of them can do something about it...

No one can help what race they are, or who they want to fck...but the majority of humans can help being 300 lbs

I know there are some people with genetic conditions but they are in the minority, most overweight people just eat too fckin much.



Of all the people that get discriminated against, I feel the least amount of pity for the obese, get in the gym, stop eating, do something about your situation.

[Type 2]

There is a difference between not being liked and discrimination. I think most on ISH dislike fat people because they are the least attractive. Now as for discrimination, one can argue that fat people will not get a job because some jobs demand physical activity. If they are fat, then they probably can't handle the job, therefore they don't get hired.

Lets face it, nobody is going to hire an obese male to be a lifeguard -or- any job that requires long hours of standing. It is physically impossible for them.

I'm not talking about life guards or physically demanding jobs, but on the occupation front, people are more likely to get hired if they are deemed physically attractive regardless of whether the job requires them to be. This has been shown over and over.

[Type 2]

It seems to be fair game. I went to school with a guy who was massive, I went through primary school and high school with him and he was always that big, so was his little brother. He had some genetic condition where he put on weight and couldn't lose it (had other health issues from it too not weight related), yet people at school would bully him for about being fat. He'd barely eat and still couldn't lose the weight but it seemed fair game for people to make fun of him. I don't see how a case like that where it's genetic is any different from making fun of someone for the race they are born. I guess because most cases are just people eating junk and being lazy people like him slip through the cracks.

Precisely. As to the last sentence though, why should it matter to everybody else if they are lazy and eat junk food? That is no justification to be mean to them.

[Type 2]

Actually OP you are right. I am sorry for my comments earlier, I am having a bad day. I shouldn't have taken it out on overweight people. They deal with enough in their lives.

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[Type 2]

Because MOST of them can do something about it...

No one can help what race they are, or who they want to fck...but the majority of humans can help being 300 lbs

I know there are some people with genetic conditions but they are in the minority, most overweight people just eat too fckin much.



Of all the people that get discriminated against, I feel the least amount of pity for the obese, get in the gym, stop eating, do something about your situation.

Why does that matter? They aren't hurting others. You don't have to be attracted to them, but why do people have to be mean to them?

[~primetime~]

Why does that matter? They aren't hurting others. You don't have to be attracted to them, but why do people have to be mean to them?
I'm not mean to anyone...I would not go out of my way to make fun of someone's weight

Just saying, I don't have a lot of pity for them.

[hateraid]

I work in the health and fitness industry and I have to say that it is such a stereotype to assume all obese individuals are fat lazy slobs. Sure, if you're a lazy slob chances are you're going to be obese, but there are those whose body compositions and genetics make it difficult to maintain the "ideal" weight. What's more a pisser to see is these fitness models who post everyday their diets and training and become these entitles obsessive pricks who feel it's their right to shame everyone and look down upon people because they just discovered health.

[outbreak]

Precisely. As to the last sentence though, why should it matter to everybody else if they are lazy and eat junk food? That is no justification to be mean to them.

You're still right but I'm guessing that's the thinking. It's odd to look at how people get pissy if you make fun of alcoholics or people with a gambling addiction but people who can't stop eating are ok to make fun on tv?

[outbreak]

I work in the health and fitness industry and I have to say that it is such a stereotype to assume all obese individuals are fat lazy slobs. Sure, if you're a lazy slob chances are you're going to be obese, but there are those whose body compositions and genetics make it difficult to maintain the "ideal" weight. What's more a pisser to see is these fitness models who post everyday their diets and training and become these entitles obsessive pricks who feel it's their right to shame everyone and look down upon people because they just discovered health.
Pen and Tellers Bullshit did an interesting episode on this, had some fitness models on and talked about how their ad campaigns were all about "you could look like me!" then when they interviewed them they all said it's genetics and they can sum up if a person can put on muscle just by looking at them. Sure you can lose weight but some people will never be ripped or totally thin while being healthy.

[Draz]

I'm skinny, and in fact I'm skinny fat. I eat a lot, as much as I want. Don't gain weight for shit. I'm probably not biologically going to be as unhealthy as an overweight person, but I'd say I'm in the ball park to be considered.

I know a lot of young people who are thin and have bad cholesterol. It's not just how much you work out anymore. It's what you eat. I mean shit. I wouldn't be surprised the majority of college students or low income families are unhealthy more than they've ever been in their lives.

I was reading a study on this too. Families eating at McDonald's $1 menu to skip out on $3 vegetables. It happens usually weeks, even daily. And they have every right to minimize their spending in a high costing economic situation.

[~primetime~]

You're still right but I'm guessing that's the thinking. It's odd to look at how people get pissy if you make fun of alcoholics or people with a gambling addiction but people who can't stop eating are ok to make fun on tv?
laziness and gluttony are shameful...as are excessive drinking/drug use/gambling


we all have obstacles to overcome in life...instead of crying for pity people need to do something about their situation.

[DeuceWallaces]

I work in the health and fitness industry and I have to say that it is such a stereotype to assume all obese individuals are fat lazy slobs. Sure, if you're a lazy slob chances are you're going to be obese, but there are those whose body compositions and genetics make it difficult to maintain the "ideal" weight. What's more a pisser to see is these fitness models who post everyday their diets and training and become these entitles obsessive pricks who feel it's their right to shame everyone and look down upon people because they just discovered health.

Even if you're predisposed to being overweight you have to make habitually bad decisions regarding diet and activity to maintain 20+ more pounds than is recommended.

[KobesFinger]

New lolcats?

[Draz]

It's probably also the way their bodies can intake fatty foods. Other obstacles like stress can be a huge factor. You don't just get overweight in a few months. It takes the constant training of unhealthy and laziness.

[hateraid]

Even if you're predisposed to being overweight you have to make habitually bad decisions regarding diet and activity to maintain 20+ more pounds than is recommended.
Most definitely. I don't disagree with that. However what I'm trying to say is that it's wrong to assume that ALL overweight individuals fall into a category of not trying or perpetually making wrong decisions. I've worked with numerous individuals who don't fall into the ideal weight category yet have prestine diets and are active. I'm all help those who want to be helped and not to pity those who make excuses. Trust me, most people in that shape don't want to look like that. It's even more discouraging when they are being shamed

[9erempiree]

I'm not talking about life guards or physically demanding jobs, but on the occupation front, people are more likely to get hired if they are deemed physically attractive regardless of whether the job requires them to be. This has been shown over and over.

They are big people. Not saying they are lazy but they have to eat more than other people because of their big composition. I would not hire a fat person for an office job because they may need to take more breaks to refuel. It's like driving a gas guzzling vehicle versus an efficient one. A fat person may have a tendency to take longer lunch and longer breaks because there body needs to maintain a certain level of energy. This cuts into production time. If we want to talk about discrimination, what's next? Smokers? Employers won't hire smokers because they think they need a cigarette break every hour.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I honestly didn't know fat people were discriminated against.

And making fun of or not liking someone is not equal to discrimination. FYI

Fat people are catered too in America, just like women.

[Draz]

You ask me smokers are in a category of their own. Those mfers only think about their next smoke. How much they have left in their pack.

I don't discriminate against smokers, but when it comes to dating I'm against dating a girl who smokes. One being that she's going to smell like smoke and she probably will more than likely have bad hygiene.

[DeuceWallaces]

God I hope this isn't some dumb-ass Type 2 diabetes gimmick.

[~primetime~]

You ask me smokers are in a category of their own. Those mfers only think about their next smoke. How much they have left in their pack.

I don't discriminate against smokers, but when it comes to dating I'm against dating a girl who smokes. One being that she's going to smell like smoke and she probably will more than likely have bad hygiene.
Smokers think about their next smoke just like obese think about food 24/7...I really don't see much difference

they both have an unhealthy habit they need to break

[Draz]

Smokers think about their next smoke just like obese think about food 24/7...I really don't see much difference

they both have an unhealthy habit they need to break
I think about my next food 247. It's cravings. We all have them. They have it most often and make it an necessity. Sitting next to a smoker with their clothes drenched in smoke and inhaling it is the worst. Most a fat person ever did to piss me off was probably take up one and a half seats on a bus or train. Which is fine.

90% of my friends smoke. At the end of the day I'm second hand smoking. I'm smelling like smoke. And we all know smoke on clothing is irritable.

Not trying to "offend" any smokers. But if I had too, I'd shame the fck out of them before anyone else. Breath smells like shit. Odor smells like shit. Their constant gross coughing. Their constant need to smoke every break. Always spitting.

A fat person would get me hungry when he/she is munching.

[warriorfan]

what's up with the huge peeps who get gastric bypass surgery and then they look really strange afterwards? like a huge head and small neck and stuff.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/03/article-2596396-1CCF2DAD00000578-128_306x423.jpg

[Draz]

You're definitely over thinking it. You're used to seeing him overweight.

[tomtucker]

Why does that matter? They aren't hurting others. You don't have to be attracted to them, but why do people have to be mean to them?

In countries where there is free healthcare, they are in fact hurting others.....all the diseases they have get taken care off for tax payers money............ also, other folks have to wait if these fat fukks are ahead of them in line, talking about both doctor and hospital examinations and operations.......plus the taxes that are being payed so the fats bastards can have all their diseases treated

[JohnFreeman]

They are disgusting fat slobs with no self control

[oarabbus]

Why does that matter? They aren't hurting others. You don't have to be attracted to them, but why do people have to be mean to them?


You could argue non-overweight people's healthcare costs are skyrocketing due to them, so they kind of are hurting others. Same with smokers. Overall burden on the healthcare system and the majority don't have genetic factors causing their obesity.

[Type 2]

They are big people. Not saying they are lazy but they have to eat more than other people because of their big composition. I would not hire a fat person for an office job because they may need to take more breaks to refuel. It's like driving a gas guzzling vehicle versus an efficient one. A fat person may have a tendency to take longer lunch and longer breaks because there body needs to maintain a certain level of energy. This cuts into production time. If we want to talk about discrimination, what's next? Smokers? Employers won't hire smokers because they think they need a cigarette break every hour.

What are you talking about? Larger people don't require longer breaks? :biggums: I have never once heard of an overweight person being compensated with longer breaks so they have time to eat more.

[Type 2]

Even if you're predisposed to being overweight you have to make habitually bad decisions regarding diet and activity to maintain 20+ more pounds than is recommended.

So not true. Never heard of thyroid issues? They are quite common and will generally lead to somebody easily being more than 20 pounds overweight.

[Type 2]

Smokers think about their next smoke just like obese think about food 24/7...I really don't see much difference

they both have an unhealthy habit they need to break

There are 3 differences:

1. Smokers smoking in the presence of others impacts the health of others around them. People eating near others does not harm others. If smokers are respectful, then there is no issue.

2. Obese people do not think about food 24/7 (technically most smokers don't either), and some don't even have larger diets than non-obese people, while smokers inherently smoke while non-smokers inherently don't. Some may overweight people may think of food 24/7, but generally overweight people are like others in that they think about food at times and other life events the rest of the time. Yes there is correlation between size and how much somebody eats, but really you are talking about over-eaters, not obese people.

3. Smokers can abstain from smoking to move past their issues. Those who only smoke occasionally are not really past their issues. Over-eaters however cannot abstain from food because it is a requirement for life. They can't abstain to get away from their issues, which makes it a constant battle. The closest thing can do is abstain from certain foods.

[Type 2]

In countries where there is free healthcare, they are in fact hurting others.....all the diseases they have get taken care off for tax payers money............ also, other folks have to wait if these fat fukks are ahead of them in line, talking about both doctor and hospital examinations and operations.......plus the taxes that are being payed so the fats bastards can have all their diseases treated

What about those who have eaten healthy but generally have health or weight issues that are out of their control?

[Type 2]

They are disgusting fat slobs with no self control

Horrible stereotype.

[DeuceWallaces]

So not true. Never heard of thyroid issues? They are quite common and will generally lead to somebody easily being more than 20 pounds overweight.

Completely true. Don't bring up some bullshit affecting less than 1% of the population as a rebuttal.

Try to be smarter.

[Type 2]

Completely true. Don't bring up some bullshit affecting less than 1% of the population as a rebuttal.

Try to be smarter.

You're one to talk. As many as 10% of the female population has thyroid deficiency issues, and that is just one health issue that influences weight gain. That is a massive percentage of the people who are overweight too.

http://www.endocrineweb.com/conditions/thyroid/hypothyroidism-too-little-thyroid-hormone

But please, provide your source that says people who are predisposed to being overweight have to make habitually bad decisions regarding diet and activity to maintain 20+ more pounds than is recommended.

[oarabbus]

What about those who have eaten healthy but generally have health or weight issues that are out of their control?

those are 1 in 1000. The other 999 eat horribly unhealthy.

Where are all the obese starving Africans with "thyroid issues"?

[Type 2]

those are 1 in 1000. The other 999 eat horribly unhealthy.

Where are all the obese starving Africans with "thyroid issues"?

It is not that uncommon. I already posted a link showing that it is not.

The Africans you are referring to are probably ones with legitimate starvation issues. No amount of thyroid issues will lead to a starving person to be overweight. My guess is they actually even die younger because of their bodies having needs that they cannot meet. The bodies of people with thyroid issues will process a lot more of the food they eat into fat. If there is not enough food, there is nothing to convert into fat.

[Velocirap31]

Huge burden to health care.

* Pun intended

[oarabbus]

It is not that uncommon. I already posted a link showing that it is not.

The Africans you are referring to are probably ones with legitimate starvation issues. No amount of thyroid issues will lead to a starving person to be overweight. My guess is they actually even die younger because of their bodies having needs that they cannot meet. The bodies of people with thyroid issues will process a lot more of the food they eat into fat. If there is not enough food, there is nothing to convert into fat.


Where are all the Japanese and Korean women with thyroid issues?

They sure as helll aren't in Japan or Korea, the two countries with the lowest obesity rates. Oh that's right, they're in America. Why? Because fat-shaming is a huge part of Japanese and Korean culture. Interestingly enough Japanese and Korean women are the longest-living in the world (and the men too). What kind of magical voodoo do they have that is warding off this (totally bullshit) thyroid issue?

QED fat-shaming is good for society

[Swaggin916]

A fat person doesn't care as much about their health, looks, or performance (in many areas)... It's a multi-faceted issue and one that should come with a sense of shame or a sense of yea I don't care... I do what I need to do and I can do that being fat. I can respect that.

[Type 2]

Where are all the Japanese and Korean women with thyroid issues?

They sure as helll aren't in Japan or Korea, the two countries with the lowest obesity rates. Oh that's right, they're in America. Why? Because fat-shaming is a huge part of Japanese and Korean culture. Interestingly enough Japanese and Korean women are the longest-living in the world (and the men too). What kind of magical voodoo do they have that is warding off this (totally bullshit) thyroid issue?

QED fat-shaming is good for society

So medical doctors have just falsely created that thyroid issues exist now? And I have seen plenty of overweight Asians. Yes, they have low obesity rates, but that doesn't mean they don't have overweight people or people with thyroid issues. If each country as a whole eats well, then yes, of course they will have more skinny people because you eliminate most obesity among those who don't have medical issues.

Additionally, yes, diet does influence thyroid issues which makes prevalence in America higher (the FDA of America is so much worse than other top countries regarding chemicals in foods that we generally consider healthy, so it is not just the "junk" food you think of), but a significant amount of those thyroid issues are due to diets of parents, thus children are born with thyroid issues that they had 0 control over.

Regardless, I come back to the point of this thread. Why the **** does it matter to people if somebody is overweight? Whether it is their fault or not, it is not justification to fat shame, humiliate, and be downright mean to people for being overweight. I've seen a few people post about tax payers because of health issues, but I highly doubt when they are being rude to overweight people, whether directly or just mocking overweight people with no individuals directly in mind, they thinking that they are doing it because of anger about how their taxes have been impacted.

[Type 2]

I encourage everybody here to think of a time when they have ridiculed overweight people. It doesn't have to be directly to somebody's face, but maybe just making "fat jokes" with their friends. Now imagine that a loved one of yours who is overweight overheard that conversation. How do you think they would feel? How would you feel knowing that you caused that reaction? Please, be decent human beings and treat everybody with love and respect, no matter what they look like.

[DCL]

exercise.

and stop eating like a FAT FU(K.

for 99.9% of you FAT FU(Ks, that's your FAT FU(K problem.

[dunksby]

Being plump and overweight is normal, I have never seen people getting shit for that. Being obese is something totally different and on another level. I personally pity them, they disgust me and I can't help it. I don't go around trying to shame them, but I don't care if they get blasted for it.

[tomtucker]

Being plump and overweight is normal, I have never seen people getting shit for that. Being obese is something totally different and on another level. I personally pity them, they disgust me and I can't help it. I don't go around trying to shame them, but I don't care if they get blasted for it.
no it

[Hawker]

They need to pay for two seats on a plane. And they take up room on a bus etc.
They also walk slower and harder to get around.

It's annoying. Plus, the increasing sizes of people make it harder to find clothes sizes that fit for in shape dudes.

Fat Shaming or not...being fat isn't healthy and for the majority of people it's due to bad diet and not working out. It should absolutely not be encouraged and it's definitely not attractive.

http://www.singledudetravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2013-state-obesity-prevalence-map-labels.png

Those increasing levels of obesity are not due to thyroid issues. Being fat/obese is a fuggin' epidemic. Standing up and saying it's wrong and not something that should be encouraged is not the same thing as "fat shaming." Being fat shouldn't be accepted as being normal.

[Hawker]

Being plump and overweight is normal, I have never seen people getting shit for that. Being obese is something totally different and on another level. I personally pity them, they disgust me and I can't help it. I don't go around trying to shame them, but I don't care if they get blasted for it.

It may be "normal" but for no reason should it ever be "normal."

[Hawker]

I encourage everybody here to think of a time when they have ridiculed overweight people. It doesn't have to be directly to somebody's face, but maybe just making "fat jokes" with their friends. Now imagine that a loved one of yours who is overweight overheard that conversation. How do you think they would feel? How would you feel knowing that you caused that reaction? Please, be decent human beings and treat everybody with love and respect, no matter what they look like.

I'm gonna go bang a fat chick this weekend.

[dunksby]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]no it

[aj1987]

They need to pay for two seats on a plane. And they take up room on a bus etc.
I was traveling from India to Qatar and decided to fly Qatar Airlines. I late was basically one of the last to board. Once I got onto the flight, I saw two HUGE, and I'm even exaggerating, ladies in my row. I basically had only half of my seat left for me and had my legs out in the aisle for the entire 4 hour journey. Thank god, they decided to take my window seat. I would've been crushed if I sat there. Absolutely HORRIBLE experience. One the flight journeys ever.

EDIT: Qatar is actually pretty nice, BTW. The air hostesses are extremely nice and even coach is bearable.

[iamgine]

Why are overweight people discriminated against so much?
Because they're fat....what is this question i don't even...

https://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/kattwilliams1-e1353869633546.jpg

[andremiller07]

I was traveling from India to Qatar and decided to fly Qatar Airlines. I late was basically one of the last to board. Once I got onto the flight, I saw two HUGE, and I'm even exaggerating, ladies in my row. I basically had only half of my seat left for me and had my legs out in the aisle for the entire 4 hour journey. Thank god, they decided to take my window seat. I would've been crushed if I sat there. Absolutely HORRIBLE experience. One the flight journeys ever.

EDIT: Qatar is actually pretty nice, BTW. The air hostesses are extremely nice and even coach is bearable.
Grant Napear epic rant on fat people on planes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOLn9yhoHfE

[oarabbus]

So medical doctors have just falsely created that thyroid issues exist now? And I have seen plenty of overweight Asians. Yes, they have low obesity rates, but that doesn't mean they don't have overweight people or people with thyroid issues. If each country as a whole eats well, then yes, of course they will have more skinny people because you eliminate most obesity among those who don't have medical issues.
Additionally, yes, diet does influence thyroid issues which makes prevalence in America higher (the FDA of America is so much worse than other top countries regarding chemicals in foods that we generally consider healthy, so it is not just the "junk" food you think of), but a significant amount of those thyroid issues are due to diets of parents, thus children are born with thyroid issues that they had 0 control over.

Regardless, I come back to the point of this thread. Why the **** does it matter to people if somebody is overweight? Whether it is their fault or not, it is not justification to fat shame, humiliate, and be downright mean to people for being overweight. I've seen a few people post about tax payers because of health issues, but I highly doubt when they are being rude to overweight people, whether directly or just mocking overweight people with no individuals directly in mind, they thinking that they are doing it because of anger about how their taxes have been impacted.


There are people starving in the world dying of hunger and fat people are eating enough for 3 people.

[WallIn]

Valid points being made here.

Main reason, too ****ing lazy to either workout or not eat so much.

No excuses.

[Type 2]

Valid points being made here.

Main reason, too ****ing lazy to either workout or not eat so much.

No excuses.

That is a common reason for people being overweight, but that is no excuse for mistreatment.

[aj1987]

Grant Napear epic rant on fat people on planes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOLn9yhoHfE
:roll: :roll:

Seriously, man. It was a 4 hour flight and I basically had half a seat to sit on. Wilt my legs out in the Aisle. Unfortunately the whole plane was PACKED. Including business and first. They should really ask people over 300lbs to buy 2 plane tickets or let the other carry more baggage for free. Probably the most uncomfortable fight journey EVER.

OP:

http://imgur.com/gallery/v4YfBGK

[tmacattack33]

I don't think many people discriminate against them.

We just don't think the fat ones of the opposite sex are attractive. And there is no problem with that opinion.

...and if you are not attractive to the opposite sex, your value goes down in this society.

[BasedTom]

they should be used to feed endangered species. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

[Draz]

I don't think many people discriminate against them.

We just don't think the fat ones of the opposite sex are attractive. And there is no problem with that opinion.

...and if you are not attractive to the opposite sex, your value goes down in this society.
Same can be said for smokers. I'd completely turn down a good looking female who's a smoker. Her value decreased significantly. I'm not a fan of dating smokers and never will be. That's just me.

[Type 2]

OP:

http://imgur.com/gallery/v4YfBGK

I guess I don't get your point. Is it that she was discriminating against him? If so, I agree that he should be allowed to be there and the woman is wrong based on the info we have.

[Type 2]

We just don't think the fat ones of the opposite sex are attractive. And there is no problem with that opinion.

...and if you are not attractive to the opposite sex, your value goes down in this society.

I agree with the first part, but the second part sounds like it could be used to justify being rude to overweight people.

[aj1987]

http://i.imgur.com/RtcfDpI.jpg

[MJ(Mean John)]

Fat people as in the overweight people, aren't that bad.

It's the Obese people that annoy me.

[dunksby]

I agree with the first part, but the second part sounds like it could be used to justify being rude to overweight people.
You could be overweight by 5lbs or 5 stones, only the latter case gets blasted and for good measure.

[ImKobe]

Because fat people need to get their shit together. I used to be one of them at a young age but then I wanted to get laid and be normal like the rest of the society and I started working my ass off until I reached my goals. It's not that difficult really. You could be a different person in just 1-2 years and your life could be that much more enjoyable.

Losing weight is not trying crash diets and doing light jogging, it's about changing your lifestyle. Fat people don't move around enough and their diet consists of soft drinks, fast food and all that gluten-filled bullshit.

I don't discriminate people who are overweight or obese, but I can't help but pity them, knowing how I felt when I was one. Being fat is mostly a choice. Fat people at some point in their lives either suffered a trauma or they just have 0 self-esteem. They obviously don't love themselves and they are too scared to do anything about it, because starting out is difficult and going outside would mean that you'd have to be around other human beings..

Just get off that chair/bed or whatever you're on while reading this thread and change your life for the better, stop being a worthless piece of shit.

Also, what I haven't seen in this thread yet is alcohol and how many calories it contains. A lot of drinkers are obese because they can't live without drinking a 6-pack while watching Football on Sunday or whatever, I quit drinking for 2 months and my body changed like crazy, not to mention that I used to drink heavily and anyone that has been there knows how all those late night snacks on top of that alcohol affect your weight.

There are a ton of variables, and obviously some people can't control their diseases and what not, but the majority of people can do something about their weight and the majority of fat people simply do not commit themselves to being healthier because it's "difficult".

[Eric Cartman]

I hate fat/obese people but their diabetes and heart attacks hate them more.

F*ck em useless pieces of shit.

ISH freedom of speech

[Type 2]

I hate fat/obese people but their diabetes and heart attacks hate them more.

F*ck em useless pieces of shit.

ISH freedom of speech

Are't you big boned, Cartman?

[Type 2]

http://i.imgur.com/RtcfDpI.jpg

I see a lot of posts in here about how overweight people can lose weight, but that is not the issue this thread is about. Of course overweight people can lose weight. But if they don't, why does everybody think that gives them justification to be horrible. Just like it not being OK to be horrible to somebody because of their race, it is not OK to be horrible to somebody because of their size.

[CelticBaller]

Somebody's health is their issue and it is a serious one, but I'm obviously talking about the social aspect.
people who dont take care of themselves are frowned upon, just like junkies

[sundizz]

Is it acceptable for their to be a negative stigma/look down upon/discriminate either directly or indirectly against drug addicts, alcoholics, pedophiles etc?

We can argue semantics about the extent to which each of those impact other individuals and society as a whole, but being obese/a fatty is similar to those mentioned above.

Don't try to twist my words and say being a fatty is the same as being a pedophile. It's not - there are degrees of grey in this discussion.

However, from a purely objective point of view people that are obese cost me as much financially as a pedophile does to society moralistically.

We don't want our society to show any sort of approval for that, regardless of whether it is innate and genetic or a learned behavior.

Similarly, we should not let obese people feel that it is okay to be the way they are. It lowers our overall standard as a society. We wouldn't all of a sudden say that kids should choose whether to go to school or not.

Obesity is similar to an addiction. In an odd way, working out and dieting have a negative impact on fatties because of the lack of education regarding it. It should be treated severely and with proper support.

If you are fat there is still some muscle. However, say you lose weight through unhealthy methods (crash dieting), then you lose your muscle %. Inevitably, when you go back up to your original weight you are now MORE fat than you were before because you can't get back that muscle you lot. It is a viscous and endless cycle that results in Hutt level blobs.

The sad thing is that this is so easy to combat, yet it is a Catch 22. As always, the people that most need the help (be it fat, sick, poor, uneducated) are unable to get the support of society to get better. They are just expected to do it themselves (the American way).

It is why other more "socialistic" countries succeed where America fails. They support those that fall from the norms much better than we do.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

gluten

Gluten. :applause:

[Type 2]

people who dont take care of themselves are frowned upon, just like junkies

So now people who over eat are comparable to crack addicts? This is a terrible comparison. Junkies are also looked down upon because of violence and crimes that are associated with it. People aren't gunned down over burgers and people aren't waiting down the block from schools trying to get children hooked on Twinkies so they can sell them more in the future.

[Type 2]

Is it acceptable for their to be a negative stigma/look down upon/discriminate either directly or indirectly against drug addicts, alcoholics, pedophiles etc?

We can argue semantics about the extent to which each of those impact other individuals and society as a whole, but being obese/a fatty is similar to those mentioned above.

Don't try to twist my words and say being a fatty is the same as being a pedophile. It's not - there are degrees of grey in this discussion.

However, from a purely objective point of view people that are obese cost me as much financially as a pedophile does to society moralistically.

We don't want our society to show any sort of approval for that, regardless of whether it is innate and genetic or a learned behavior.

Similarly, we should not let obese people feel that it is okay to be the way they are. It lowers our overall standard as a society. We wouldn't all of a sudden say that kids should choose whether to go to school or not.

Obesity is similar to an addiction. In an odd way, working out and dieting have a negative impact on fatties because of the lack of education regarding it. It should be treated severely and with proper support.

If you are fat there is still some muscle. However, say you lose weight through unhealthy methods (crash dieting), then you lose your muscle %. Inevitably, when you go back up to your original weight you are now MORE fat than you were before because you can't get back that muscle you lot. It is a viscous and endless cycle that results in Hutt level blobs.

The sad thing is that this is so easy to combat, yet it is a Catch 22. As always, the people that most need the help (be it fat, sick, poor, uneducated) are unable to get the support of society to get better. They are just expected to do it themselves (the American way).

It is why other more "socialistic" countries succeed where America fails. They support those that fall from the norms much better than we do.

Wow, look at my post above and see a quick example of how stupid this comparison is.

[sundizz]

Wow, look at my post above and see a quick example of how stupid this comparison is.

You only look at it in the small, microcosm picture though. I understand it is hard to objective.

The # of crack addicts is very low. Additionally, the crimes committed by them are also very low. You make a random violence association which actually isn't very true. Correlation does not equate to causation in this instance.

To move on, the # of fat obese people is extremely high.

Being fat (and the stuff that come with being fat) kills off more people in our society than anything else. The notion that it is "okay" is completely damaging to our society.

Being obese is a disease. I'm not at all saying everyone needs to look in shape at all. Body types come in many forms. However, every person in our society should be striving to be in their natural healthy form. Saying that a 5'7 guy that is 215 is doing fine is the same as saying it is okay that they do crack once in a while. In my opinion, being obese is that damaging to the body.

I say this having been obese. Without education etc people underestimate the negative impact it has on society.

And also you are right. There aren't "people" waiting on the corner. There are multi-billion dollar corporation paying millions of dollars to get kids to have sugary products that will hook them for life on that addiction.

[Type 2]

You only look at it in the small, microcosm picture though. I understand it is hard to objective.

The # of crack addicts is very low. Additionally, the crimes committed by them are also very low. You make a random violence association which actually isn't very true. Correlation does not equate to causation in this instance.

To move on, the # of fat obese people is extremely high.

Being fat (and the stuff that come with being fat) kills off more people in our society than anything else. The notion that it is "okay" is completely damaging to our society.

Being obese is a disease. I'm not at all saying everyone needs to look in shape at all. Body types come in many forms. However, every person in our society should be striving to be in their natural healthy form. Saying that a 5'7 guy that is 215 is doing fine is the same as saying it is okay that they do crack once in a while. In my opinion, being obese is that damaging to the body.

I say this having been obese. Without education etc people underestimate the negative impact it has on society.

And also you are right. There aren't "people" waiting on the corner. There are multi-billion dollar corporation paying millions of dollars to get kids to have sugary products that will hook them for life on that addiction.

:facepalm

First, I never said causation. But the correlation is there, and there is a lot of violence DIRECTLY related to drugs. That is not debatable. And yes, heart disease kills off a lot of people in our society, but it kills the people who use it, the people who use it are not as damaging to others around them as junkies are likely to be. People don't get nervous that an overweight person is going to mug them, but walk down a street in a neighborhood that has been overrun with drugs and people get nervous because of that correlation.