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CavaliersFTW
05-20-2015, 12:59 AM
This is still the NBA scoring record in the playoffs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u9W_G5dO1FI/VVwT0eBuYTI/AAAAAAAAGTM/h2ElfuzQdN0/s800/NBA%252520WDF%252520Bullets%252520vs%252520Lakers% 252520Jerry%252520West%25252046ppg%252520avg%25252 01965.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TH-PN4lWt0M/VVwTz2ZFx4I/AAAAAAAAGTE/d0f_C2v895M/s800/jerry-west-65.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld3qT-ZVbi0

All 6 straight Playoff games of 40+ points (no other player in NBA history has a 40 point Playoff streak of more than 4 games) and actually West's first game of the Boston Finals Series was a 42 point performance so his streak is 7 straight.

This scoring came about due to the unfortunate injury to Elgin Baylor's knee, several minutes into game 1 of the series in LA.

inclinerator
05-20-2015, 01:02 AM
that ymca defense

IllegalD
05-20-2015, 01:05 AM
Kobe >>>>>>>> "Mr. 1-7 in the Finals"

HOoopCityJones
05-20-2015, 01:35 AM
Jerry dat ni99a. Signed Shaq and Drafted Kobe too.

That technically pushes his ring count to 9.

bdreason
05-20-2015, 02:12 AM
On ISH he would get ridiculed for losing in the Finals. :facepalm

bdreason
05-20-2015, 02:13 AM
Jerry dat ni99a. Signed Shaq and Drafted Kobe too.

That technically pushes his ring count to 9.


Drafted Curry and Klay, and traded for Bogut as well... could be pushing for 10.

Deuce Bigalow
05-20-2015, 02:16 AM
Greatest playoff performer of his era :applause:

warriorfan
05-20-2015, 02:17 AM
This is still the NBA scoring record in the playoffs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u9W_G5dO1FI/VVwT0eBuYTI/AAAAAAAAGTM/h2ElfuzQdN0/s800/NBA%252520WDF%252520Bullets%252520vs%252520Lakers% 252520Jerry%252520West%25252046ppg%252520avg%25252 01965.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TH-PN4lWt0M/VVwTz2ZFx4I/AAAAAAAAGTE/d0f_C2v895M/s800/jerry-west-65.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld3qT-ZVbi0

All 6 straight Playoff games of 40+ points (no other player in NBA history has a 40 point Playoff streak of more than 4 games) and actually West's first game of the Boston Finals Series was a 42 point performance so his streak is 7 straight.

This scoring came about due to the unfortunate injury to Elgin Baylor's knee, several minutes into game 1 of the series in LA.


Imagine what Steph Curry would of done with all those extra possessions and fast break opportunities :eek:

Would be like 55 to 60 PPG. Amazing.

CavaliersFTW
05-20-2015, 02:19 AM
Imagine what Steph Curry would of done with all those extra possessions and fast break opportunities :eek:

Would be like 55 to 60 PPG. Amazing.
You gifting him the 3 point shot still? :oldlol:

warriorfan
05-20-2015, 02:24 AM
You gifting him the 3 point shot still? :oldlol:

Take away 1/3rd of Steph Curry's points off made 3 pointers and give him 30% more possessions where he shoots over 50% from the field. Do the math and let me know what you come back with.

CavaliersFTW
05-20-2015, 02:42 AM
Take away 1/3rd of Steph Curry's points off made 3 pointers and give him 30% more possessions where he shoots over 50% from the field. Do the math and let me know what you come back with.
Alongside the math for ball handling and traveling rules being interpreted slightly more strictly, tighter floor spacing, hand checking, charges being given out more readily (and no such thing as a no charge zone)

All that stuff is going to ...keep his field goal percentages the same? :lol

3ball
05-20-2015, 02:44 AM
Imagine what Steph Curry would of done with all those extra possessions and fast break opportunities

Would be like 55 to 60 PPG. Amazing.


Not a chance - there were no 3-pointers back then, so none of Curry's teammates would be spreading the floor for him - all 10 players would be occupying the paint and standing much closer together, so Curry's efficiency would be depressed like everyone else's in that era.

Btw, why do you think teams shot so poorly despite playing such a fast pace?.. Obviously, these fastbreaks were not ending in open layups - teams were settling for contested shot after contested shot, which plays much faster than taking time to move the ball for an open shot..

Moving the ball is something that becomes incresingly prevalent as spacing increases - then defenders become spread out, and therefore capable of being moved and shifted to get an open shot - but the open shots that result from ball movement TAKE TIME, which fools people into thinking it must be harder to score (when it's the opposite - the shots resulting from ball movement are LESS contested).

warriorfan
05-20-2015, 02:44 AM
Alongside the math for ball handling and traveling rules being interpreted slightly more strictly, tighter floor spacing, hand checking, charges being given out more readily (and no such thing as a no charge zone)

All that stuff is going to ...keep his field goal percentages the same? :lol


Adjust for mass transition opportunities and less athletic players who aren't as focused on the defensive side of the ball.

CavaliersFTW
05-20-2015, 02:46 AM
Adjust for mass transition opportunities and less athletic players who aren't as focused on the defensive side of the ball.
He'd be up against pre-injury Gus Johnson and prime Walt Bellamy... **** out of here with that "less athletic" or unfocused defensive player crap it does not apply to this particular hypothetical :oldlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHcrG6gfJhI

warriorfan
05-20-2015, 02:46 AM
Not a chance - there were no 3-pointers back then, so none of Curry's teammates would be spreading the floor for him - all 10 players would be occupying the paint and standing much closer together, so Curry's efficiency would be depressed like everyone else's in that era.

Btw, why do you think teams shot so poorly despite playing such a fast pace?.. Obviously, these fastbreaks were not ending in open layups - teams were settling for contested shot after contested shot, which plays much faster than taking time to move the ball for an open shot..

Moving the ball is something that becomes incresingly prevalent as spacing increases - then defenders become spread out, and therefore capable of being moved and shifted to get an open shot - but the open shots that result from ball movement TAKE TIME, which fools people into thinking it must be harder to score (when it's the opposite - the shots resulting from ball movement are LESS contested).


Points taken and would apply to most players, but not Steph Curry. Steph Curry doesn't rely on his team to space the floor for him to get his shots off. Even if the fast break opportunities aren't ending in layups, you have to admit they are ending in opportunities with non set defenses that are MUCH easier to score against. Steph Curry would be lighting the 1960's NBA on fire.

warriorfan
05-20-2015, 02:48 AM
He'd be up against pre-injury Gus Johnson and prime Walt Bellamy... **** out of here with that "less athletic" crap it does not apply to this particular hypothetical :oldlol:


:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:


Do you even know what Steph Curry would do to Gus Johnson and Walt Bellamy? Putting large players on Curry is the last thing you want to do. Those guys would be on the floor so fast it would make your head spin.

pauk
05-20-2015, 02:50 AM
:applause:

pauk
05-20-2015, 02:54 AM
Greatest playoff performer of his era :applause:

1 of 9 in Finals doe... dont be contradictive to the Kobe family logic now... :no:

oarabbus
05-20-2015, 03:02 AM
46ppg :biggums: :applause:

sd3035
05-20-2015, 08:54 AM
Isn't that the same guy who won a finals MVP on a losing team because Wilt choked so hard?

LAZERUSS
05-20-2015, 09:05 AM
Isn't that the same guy who won a finals MVP on a losing team because Wilt choked so hard?

No. You have it backwards.

West won a ring in a Finals in which he choked so hard, and Chamberlain won the FMVP. See the 1972 Finals. Wilt with a dominant Finals for the ages.

24-Inch_Chrome
05-20-2015, 09:05 AM
Curry is getting so ****ing overrated. ISH is gonna end up making me hate him.

aj1987
05-20-2015, 09:17 AM
No. You have it backwards.

West won a ring in a Finals in which he choked so hard, and Chamberlain won the FMVP. See the 1972 Finals. Wilt with a dominant Finals for the ages.
:roll: @ the '72 Finals being ATG. Not even close.

Can we ignore the '72 Finals and talk about the '69 Finals or the '70 Finals for a minute? Dude lost to the Knicks with West and Baylor. :roll:

Dro
05-20-2015, 09:24 AM
Curry is getting so ****ing overrated. ISH is gonna end up making me hate him.
This. People just love to transport players from today back into the 60's without accounting for all the differences in the technology and the eras....Steph Curry in the 60's is NOT Steph Curry of today. He doesn't grow up in the 60's learning to do the fanciest dribbling moves he can possibly do and launching contested 3 point shots from wherever. Game was not played that way. Sure Pistol did it, and was not very efficient either. The most realistic part of Steph's game that he could have translated back then would be his shot. He's a great shooter, regardless of era but he may be playing against PG's who would eat him up on the defensive end. Please somebody explain to me how he's going to check Oscar for example. Thats just one example...

Straight_Ballin
05-20-2015, 09:33 AM
Not a chance - there were no 3-pointers back then, so none of Curry's teammates would be spreading the floor for him - all 10 players would be occupying the paint and standing much closer together, so Curry's efficiency would be depressed like everyone else's in that era.

Btw, why do you think teams shot so poorly despite playing such a fast pace?.. Obviously, these fastbreaks were not ending in open layups - teams were settling for contested shot after contested shot, which plays much faster than taking time to move the ball for an open shot..

Moving the ball is something that becomes incresingly prevalent as spacing increases - then defenders become spread out, and therefore capable of being moved and shifted to get an open shot - but the open shots that result from ball movement TAKE TIME, which fools people into thinking it must be harder to score (when it's the opposite - the shots resulting from ball movement are LESS contested).

The fact that this shit went on for how long (jamming up the paint) before someone came up with the simple idea to add a further distance shot worth more points speaks volumes about the intelligence level back then.

LAZERUSS
05-20-2015, 09:43 AM
:roll: @ the '72 Finals being ATG. Not even close.

Can we ignore the '72 Finals and talk about the '69 Finals or the '70 Finals for a minute? Dude lost to the Knicks with West and Baylor. :roll:

19.2 ppg, 23.2 rpg, .600 FG%, 7.4 bpg.

Clinching game (with a badly sprained wrist, and the other wrist BROKEN)...

24 pts, 10-14 FG/FGA, 8 blocked shots, and 29 rebounds (the entire NY team had a TOTAL of 39 rebounds BTW.)

CERTAINLY one of the all-time GOAT performances in an NBA Finals.


BAYLOR lost the '69 Finals (just HORRIFIC shooting), in a series that Wilt easily outplayed Russell.

In the '70 Finals, all Wilt could do, only four months after major knee surgery, and nowhere near 100%... 23.2 ppg, 24.1 rpg, and on a .625 FG%. Now, go ahead and give me YOUR list of GOATs who put up a 23-24 .625 Finals. Oh, and in a "must win" game 6... 45 points, on 20-27 shooting, with 27 rebounds. And in a "must win" game seven... 21 points, on 10-16 shooting, with 23 rebounds...in a game in which Frazier just destroyed West.

Next...

Spurs5Rings2014
05-20-2015, 09:43 AM
:roll: @ the '72 Finals being ATG. Not even close.

Can we ignore the '72 Finals and talk about the '69 Finals or the '70 Finals for a minute? Dude lost to the Knicks with West and Baylor. :roll:

:lol

aj1987
05-20-2015, 09:51 AM
19.2 ppg, 23.2 rpg, .600 FG%, 7.4 bpg.

Clinching game (with a badly sprained wrist, and the other wrist BROKEN)...

24 pts, 10-14 FG/FGA, 8 blocked shots, and 29 rebounds (the entire NY team had a TOTAL of 39 rebounds BTW.)

CERTAINLY one of the all-time GOAT performances in an NBA Finals.
Finals better than Wilt's '72: MJ has 4, Shaq has 3, LeBron has 1, Wade has 1, Kobe has one, West has a couple, Bird has a couple, KAJ has a couple, etc. etc..



BAYLOR lost the '69 Finals (just HORRIFIC shooting), in a series that Wilt easily outplayed Russell.
Prime West and 4-13 from the FT line in a game decided by 2.

Wilt is a mental midget and a choker (hence the name, Chokerlain). Deal with it.

Spurs5Rings2014
05-20-2015, 10:00 AM
4-13 from the FT line in a game decided by 2.

Wilt is a mental midget and a choker (hence the name, Chokerlain). Deal with it.

:lebronamazed:

jzek
05-20-2015, 10:09 AM
Did it in the old era. Not impressed.

I don't pay attention to records or stats if not set in the "modern" era (1980 and up).

Prometheus
05-20-2015, 11:05 AM
Did it in the old era. Not impressed.

I don't pay attention to records or stats if not set in the "modern" era (1980 and up).

Kareem played in the 70's and 80's, and claims that Wilt is the greatest player of all time.

Discuss.

SHAQisGOAT
05-20-2015, 01:30 PM
:applause: :bowdown:


that ymca defense

Right... :rolleyes:

riseagainst
05-20-2015, 05:32 PM
:applause: