View Full Version : we are witnessing the goat shooter in his prime.
NZStreetBaller
05-22-2015, 02:31 AM
In 10 or 20 years from now we will be those old people justifying that steph curry was a better shooter then some new rookie thatll come along
Just like the jordan fans lol.
J Shuttlesworth
05-22-2015, 02:35 AM
It's been pretty remarkable watching his postseason run so far. He's delivered, and been huge late in games too.
28.7/5.2/6.6 with 1/8 steals 59.7% TS
Pretty damn solid numbers all around
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 02:38 AM
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
SugarHill
05-22-2015, 02:38 AM
it's how he creates his shots that's truly impressive
NZStreetBaller
05-22-2015, 04:17 AM
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
His shooting ability wouldnt be useless without the right team. His win loss column would suffer yes as would any player without the right team.
I believe he could take anyone throughout nba history in a pure shooting contest.
aj1987
05-22-2015, 04:33 AM
We might be, but not really a fan of Steph Curry. Dude's averaging 11 3's a game (21 FGA's). I rather prefer watching players like Kobe, Wade, LeBron, KD, etc.. Curry's a great player and top 5 in the world right now, but don't really like his game.
JerrySeinfeld
05-22-2015, 04:38 AM
We might be, but not really a fan of Steph Curry. Dude's averaging 11 3's a game (21 FGA's). I rather prefer watching players like Kobe, Wade, LeBron, KD, etc.. Curry's a great player and top 5 in the world right now, but don't really like his game.
I kinda agree with this but recently I've been changing my mind a bit.
Curry brings me back to being a kid and being in awe of the 3 ball, and enamored with players who perfected this shot because they were the ultimate threats. the snipers. the guys who could score 1 more point than the others because they were just that skilled.
the way curry plays is also just fascinating. plus he doesn't look as black as the others and isn't as big and strong so I can kinda pretend I'm him when I'm jacking up bricks at the gym. Problem is "CURRY!" doesn't sound as alpha as "KOBE!"
warriorfan
05-22-2015, 04:45 AM
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raiderfan19
05-22-2015, 05:47 AM
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
You realize Steph will have doubled both Kerr and davis(the other guy barely ahead of him in all time 3pt percentage by the end of next year in terms of 3s made? And that neither would even be ahead of him without the shortened 3 point line. Steph being the goat 3pt shooter is probably the least debateable goat argument in basketball and I'm not a gs fan.
What that guy does as a shooter is just stunning. He takes the most 3s of anyone ever and percentage wise the difference between him and reggie miller is the same as the difference between miller and a slightly below average 3pt shooter.
raprap
05-22-2015, 05:50 AM
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
:lol
sportjames23
05-22-2015, 05:55 AM
In 10 or 20 years from now we will be those old people justifying that steph curry was a better shooter then some new rookie thatll come along
Just like the jordan fans lol.
Only thing is, Jordan fans have been shown to be right. Only time will tell for Curry fans. :banana:
NZStreetBaller
05-22-2015, 06:18 AM
Lol curry is the bame i call out now when i shoot 3s.
It used to be allen for three baaaaangg!!
RoundMoundOfReb
05-22-2015, 06:27 AM
yes
CeltsGarlic
05-22-2015, 06:29 AM
Lol curry is the bame i call out now when i shoot 3s.
It used to be allen for three baaaaangg!!
Im still on my 'toine walker shit
NZStreetBaller
05-22-2015, 06:35 AM
Im still on my 'toine walker shit
Ive quite often used my derek fisher prayer shot lol.
tontoz
05-22-2015, 06:49 AM
If Curry can stay healthy he could definitely be seen as the GOAT shooter. Taking this many 3s and shooting over 40% is ridiculous. I am old and i have never seen anyone that could compare to him.
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
Kobe & Bird are the only ones who were better than Curry at creating their own shots? Better than say.... Michael Jordan? Afterall you firmly mentioned only Kobe & Bird, clearly nobody else could create shots better.
Kobe is the greatest shooting scorer, on par with Larry Bird?
Kobe is a better shooting scorer than say.... Kevin Durant?
You my friend need help to break free from that Kobetardism, its clouding your basketball judgement... not healthy.. im even surprised you mentioned Bird, even better yet him being the only one on par with Kobe in this category... just on par, clearly nobody is better than Kobe at something, what are we crazy?
Rake2204
05-22-2015, 09:17 AM
I've said it a ton of times, but I've never seen a shooter like him in my life. We can play the statistics game where we cite Steve Kerr, a spot-up shooter who knew his role and typically connected on standalone threes. But to watch Curry shoot, in the manner he shoots, from the angles he shoots, how he creates and releases from angles that'd be awful shots for anyone else... it's absolutely amazing.
I honestly think he's redefining the game. Shots that used to be wholly rejected by coaches could now gain at least a little bit of traction in the basketball world, in terms of his stepbacks, runbacks (where he literally dribbles back out to the arc to shoot), and transition pull-ups. It'll take years for skill to catch-up, but just as Reggie Miller and company helped normalize the three-ball (look where attempts per game are now versus 1990), I think Curry could help push it one more big step further.
That said, yeah, I say enjoy it, because this is someone who we're going to look back on with a lot of awe. Think about how much love we give Run TMC. This goes well beyond that.
ISHGoat
05-22-2015, 09:21 AM
Kobe & Bird are the only ones who were better than Curry at creating their own shots? Better than say.... Michael Jordan? Afterall you firmly mentioned only Kobe & Bird, clearly nobody else could create shots better.
Kobe is the greatest shooting scorer, on par with Larry Bird?
Kobe is a better shooting scorer than say.... Kevin Durant?
You my friend need help to break free from that Kobetardism, its clouding your basketball judgement... not healthy.. im even surprised you mentioned Bird, even better yet him being the only one on par with Kobe in this category... just on par, clearly nobody is better than Kobe at something, what are we crazy?
just ignore him. kobe is barely even top 10 in scoring prowess. I would take mj, lebron, shaq, bird, wilt (not postseason - especially not finals), durant, curry all over him. then there are guys i view equivalent to kobe such as dirk, peak wade, pierce, gervin, melo, etc. he is not even close to 10 for defense (or remotely close, this is dominated by bigs). but somehow hes top 10 cos achievements. what does that tell us? he got carried lol.
KD last year, curry this year, lebron for his career, etc, are all better scorers/shooters.
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 12:41 PM
If i NEED a shot from anywhere on the floor over mid court against a great defense ..... i cant rely on curry to even be able to get off a shot. He isnt tall enough. N9re does he have the leaping ability to shoot over someone
Bird was tall enough. Kobe had a high jump release on his shot... and both guys footwork were great without needing a screen or pick and roll to get off a quality shot.
I'd rather choose either of them
So how can curry be the best shooter...
Maybe he is the best wide open or with a bit of space
But defended hes a risk
ApexPredator
05-22-2015, 01:16 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:
kshutts1
05-22-2015, 01:20 PM
steve kerr holds the record for 3pt %
rick barry holds the record for ft%
theyre statistically the greatest shooters ever
as far as ability to shoot over the defense
kobe and bird were much better at creating their own shots and getting a good look whenever they wanted without a screen or running around.
curry is the best hybrid 3pt specialist/scorer with the right team around him. but if he didnt have so many weapons on the court. defenses would just collapse on him. and he would be useless.
guys like kobe and bird could attack a double team or split 3 guys/shoot over the top without needing a juke/spin/hesitation fancy dribble move
greatest volume 3pt specialist = curry
greatest shooting scorers = kobe/bird
The bolded is a good point, though Curry would never be "useless". Never. He'd be a star whether he was attempting to carry a bad team or whether he was on a great team.
He's just one of those players that is better suited to turn a great team into a historical team than he is a bad team into a good team. Nothing against that.
toxicxr6
05-22-2015, 01:30 PM
If i NEED a shot from anywhere on the floor over mid court against a great defense ..... i cant rely on curry to even be able to get off a shot. He isnt tall enough. N9re does he have the leaping ability to shoot over someone
Bird was tall enough. Kobe had a high jump release on his shot... and both guys footwork were great without needing a screen or pick and roll to get off a quality shot.
I'd rather choose either of them
So how can curry be the best shooter...
Maybe he is the best wide open or with a bit of space
But defended hes a risk
Do you even watch curry play? He has the quickest release on his shot I have ever seen.. That in itself makes the shot very difficult to defend... And curry has already hit a mid court buzzer beater this playoffs so yeah your point sucks
Please don't compare an efficient shooter like curry to the goat chucker Kobe
Curry might possibly go down as the best shooter all time.. He has a case in terms of peak for sure... Kobe was no where near this level not even close.. Kobe is and always has been a chucker.. He has never been an efficient shooter....
Saying you think Kobe is a better shooter than curry :facepalm seriously
I honestly don't think it's debatable that he's the greatest shooter the league has ever seen.
His catch and shoot/set shot 3's might not be as accurate as Kerr/Korver's but it's close. Kerr and Korver would never be able to do what Curry's been able to do off the dribble.
Curry takes bail out shots, heat checks, and pull ups just for the hell of it as well. Those have an affect on his percentages.
Down by double digits and you need a miracle to happen? Curry is taking those shots as well.
The whole package.
If i NEED a shot from anywhere on the floor over mid court against a great defense ..... i cant rely on curry to even be able to get off a shot. He isnt tall enough. N9re does he have the leaping ability to shoot over someone
Bird was tall enough. Kobe had a high jump release on his shot... and both guys footwork were great without needing a screen or pick and roll to get off a quality shot.
I'd rather choose either of them
So how can curry be the best shooter...
Maybe he is the best wide open or with a bit of space
But defended hes a risk
Dude. Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Curry's handles are some of the best we've seen. AI has even said he was never on Curry's (or Kyrie's) level in terms of handles.
Curry barely needs any room to get off a shot because of his quick release. All he needs is a little step back or a hesitation move to pull up. How many times have you seen Curry's shot get blocked from 3? How many times have you seen Kobe's?
The bolded is a good point, though Curry would never be "useless". Never. He'd be a star whether he was attempting to carry a bad team or whether he was on a great team.
He's just one of those players that is better suited to turn a great team into a historical team than he is a bad team into a good team. Nothing against that.
Don't even bother with this guy. He's a Kobe stan through and through and will say anything to prop up his boy and detract from others.
Curry shot 46% FG and 44% 3FG for 17.5ppg during his rookie year.
Curry scored 22, 26, and 29 ppg in college, being basically the only real threat on his team. He's been able to create for himself since back then and his abilities have translated into the NBA game seamlessly.
You don't "accidentally" score 29ppg on 61% TS through 12 games in the playoffs, being your team's primary option and them knowing how dangerous you are. Curry gets as much defensive attention as anyone else in the league.
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 01:50 PM
If curry is the greatest shooter like people say he is....
and can get off any shot like people say he can...
And hes above bird and kobe in that sense...
Then he better win 3-4-5 titles cause he has the best team behind him
I expect nothing less than top 10-11 all time status when hes done
8-12+ years ago I'd admire three point shooters/streaky shooters. I idolized them at a younger age, and I'm sure the majority of younger kids did too.
But as I grew older I started loving the game big men produced. Footwork, posting up, rebounding and blocking, defense, steals. Ability to go to the line.
Watching Curry play is great. He has great ball handling and he can easily drive to the rim for his sweet soft layup. But I'm being annoyed by the amount of threes players like him take. Some fans don't mind him pulling up for a three on a 2vs1 scenario. I just find it to be a bad decision. Sure, he can make it.. But was that really the right choice to make? It's a gamble.
10-20+ years from now we will brag about being able to see him LIVE and how great his shooting was. But footage of him will be easily accessible in HD and whenever, however.
Younger fans aren't exposed as much to Jordan or even Kobe. It's all he said she said in some cases.
ClipperRevival
05-22-2015, 01:54 PM
I have no problem calling him the GOAT shooter of all time. I've never seen a guy make it look so effortless and natural when it comes to shooting.
If curry is the greatest shooter like people say he is....
and can get off any shot like people say he can...
And hes above bird and kobe in that sense...
Then he better win 3-4-5 titles cause he has the best team behind him
I expect nothing less than top 10-11 all time status when hes done
Klay
Draymond
Barnes
Bogut
Iguodala
Barbosa
Livingston
is the best team of all time?
Rekindled
05-22-2015, 05:35 PM
Klay
Draymond
Barnes
Bogut
Iguodala
Barbosa
Livingston
is the best team of all time?
:lol
Smoke117
05-22-2015, 05:42 PM
If i NEED a shot from anywhere on the floor over mid court against a great defense ..... i cant rely on curry to even be able to get off a shot. He isnt tall enough. N9re does he have the leaping ability to shoot over someone
Bird was tall enough. Kobe had a high jump release on his shot... and both guys footwork were great without needing a screen or pick and roll to get off a quality shot.
I'd rather choose either of them
So how can curry be the best shooter...
Maybe he is the best wide open or with a bit of space
But defended hes a risk
You're an idiot...with Curry's quick release he can get a shot off vs anybody.
So the Kyle Korver is the greatest shooter ever living in the moment fans woke up? Nice
Straight_Ballin
05-22-2015, 06:11 PM
Im still on my 'toine walker shit
I'm still on my Dell Curry shit.
Curry is 27, hasn't finished his career and is already GOAT shooter to people. Wow, kids I tell ya
inclinerator
05-22-2015, 07:10 PM
If i NEED a shot from anywhere on the floor over mid court against a great defense ..... i cant rely on curry to even be able to get off a shot. He isnt tall enough. N9re does he have the leaping ability to shoot over someone
Bird was tall enough. Kobe had a high jump release on his shot... and both guys footwork were great without needing a screen or pick and roll to get off a quality shot.
I'd rather choose either of them
So how can curry be the best shooter...
Maybe he is the best wide open or with a bit of space
But defended hes a risk
you dont need height, it's all about the arc release and quick release combine that with his ballhandling ability he can get a shot off anytime unless people are allowed to get physical with him
24-Inch_Chrome
05-22-2015, 07:14 PM
Is kenneth ever right about anything? Steve Nash is the all-time FT% leader, not Rick Barry. Barry is 7th.
inclinerator
05-22-2015, 07:16 PM
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1987_Lakers
05-22-2015, 07:24 PM
Curry is 27, hasn't finished his career and is already GOAT shooter to people. Wow, kids I tell ya
Nobody in the history of the game has hit the 3 like Curry. Breaking single season records for 3s made, shooting 44% from 3 in the process. That's just insane.
ShawkFactory
05-22-2015, 07:25 PM
So the Kyle Korver is the greatest shooter ever living in the moment fans woke up? Nice
Depends on what you want. Korver is certainly one of the greatest spot-up shooters ever. He can't really create though so he isn't on Curry's level overall.
24-Inch_Chrome
05-22-2015, 07:27 PM
Curry is 27, hasn't finished his career and is already GOAT shooter to people. Wow, kids I tell ya
I agree. He's played for 6 years, not nearly long enough to establish himself as the GOAT anything. I think he definitely has the potential to go down as the GOAT shooter but it's far too early to make a call one way or the other.
toxicxr6
05-22-2015, 08:27 PM
If curry is the greatest shooter like people say he is....
and can get off any shot like people say he can...
And hes above bird and kobe in that sense...
Then he better win 3-4-5 titles cause he has the best team behind him
I expect nothing less than top 10-11 all time status when hes done
Can you imagine peak curry in a team with peak shaq? That would absolutely unbeatable and would probably win the title every year they were together..
Anyhow your boy Kobe is on the verge of dropping out of the top 10 anyways.. If bron wins this year with fmvp then Kobe is out for good
yobore
05-22-2015, 09:08 PM
Yes he is the best shooter of all time in his prime but I bet even before he retires a better version of him comes along. Three-point shooting at the current distance is starting to get figured out by some players. Great shooters seem to be getting better and better all the time. Back in the day Reggie Miller was an unbelievable standout shooter but honestly in today's league there are probably a few dozen players that shoot as well as he did.
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 09:11 PM
You're an idiot...with Curry's quick release he can get a shot off vs anybody.
not one i'd have faith in
when he forces it curry misses badly
kobe atleast gives his team a chance when he takes a difficult shot
best bad shot makers in nba history = the best shooters in nba history
you cant be wide open every time. if you only wanna shoot when youre open.. become a role player
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 09:13 PM
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that was against 36 year old post achilles kobe with no leaping ability
imagine if curry tried that on 1st team all defense prime kobe bryant
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2006875/kobe-block-o.gif
warriorfan
05-22-2015, 09:22 PM
Curry is 27, hasn't finished his career and is already GOAT shooter to people. Wow, kids I tell ya
Who is your GOAT shooter and what criteria do you use to determine your opinion?
NZStreetBaller
05-23-2015, 01:38 AM
Chips are the dumbest way to determine shooting ability.... steve nah was an amazing shooter. Kyle korver is amazing.
They would wipe the floor with shaq russell and kareem....
24-Inch_Chrome
05-23-2015, 01:42 AM
My top-5 shooters.
Nash
Allen
Bird
Reggie
Curry
Nobody shoots 3s better than Curry.
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