View Full Version : Dwight Howard should of shot that 3
LosBulls
05-22-2015, 05:36 PM
He is a human just like everybody else. You don't have to be Stephen Curry to make a wide open 3. Harden is being doubled hard and you have an open shot... take it.
You are an NBA player. That doesn't mean you're supposed to be a good shooter but any average Joe could of hit that shot, poido could of thrown that shot up and had a good chancw of throwing it in because you are WIDE open.
Guys like Tim Duncan and Yao Ming who are not 3 point shooters have stepped up in these situations and hit big shots like that when there's no other option.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody else think that Dwight should of taken his chances and shot that wide open 3?
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5yG_a8k9ow
But seriously, no.
J Shuttlesworth
05-22-2015, 05:39 PM
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5yG_a8k9ow
But seriously, no.
http://i.imgur.com/4Q9kJP3.png
LosBulls
05-22-2015, 05:41 PM
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5yG_a8k9ow
But seriously, no.
I'm a fan if Dwight.. but no killer instinct whatsoever :facepalm
It seemed that he had it in his Orlando days but I guess not.
Yoshi
05-22-2015, 05:43 PM
I kept thinking how nuts it would have been if he shot it and made it. More epic than the Duncan 3.
Foster5k
05-22-2015, 05:50 PM
No matter how great it would have been, if Howard made that 3, if he would have missed that 3, everyone would have killed him for it. The media would have a field day. Everyone and their grandmother would be screaming, "Why didn't you pass it to Harden!"
Howard made the career smart play. Pass it to the guy that people expect to take the shot.
livinglegend
05-22-2015, 05:52 PM
Should have taken a timeout at that point.
The fast break opportunity was broken.
They had time to set a proper play for Harden.
oarabbus
05-22-2015, 06:27 PM
Should have*
Poetry
05-22-2015, 06:59 PM
Guys like Tim Duncan and Yao Ming who are not 3 point shooters have stepped up in these situations and hit big shots like that when there's no other option.
http://cdn3-www.hoopsvibe.com/assets/uploads/2013/04/file_170891_2_tim-duncan-3-o.gif
inclinerator
05-22-2015, 07:00 PM
i can see it he shoots it hard and banks it in
Genaro
05-22-2015, 07:14 PM
He's not a shooter, know your limitations. But he could've asked a timeout.
why? so he could brick it?
he made the right play
Fallen Angel
05-22-2015, 07:30 PM
why? so he could brick it?
he made the right play
Passing it back to a player with two defenders on him with less than three seconds on the clock, while tossing the ball to an awkward spot that didn't allow the receiver to get his feet in a position to shoot the ball on-balance was the right play?
No wonder your team got swepted in the first round.
Fallen Angel
05-22-2015, 07:36 PM
Dwight Howard got the ball at the top of the three point line with 3 seconds left.
Had he kept running with his momentum he could drive to the rack for contact and a foul or he could have just made the layup, the only person standing in between Dwight and the rim was 6'7" Draymond Green.
Or Dwight could have spot up, gathered his feet and shot the WIDE open three pointer. He's already made a three at Oracle Arena last season in the corner, I would have been content with him shooting the ball. Had he missed it the blame would still be pointed to Harden from the idiotic media and retards on the internet for passing him the ball.
It's a no lose situation for Dwight (besides the possibility he misses and loses the actual game).
kennethgriffin
05-22-2015, 07:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4Q9kJP3.png
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ILLsmak
05-22-2015, 07:45 PM
A random scrub could have but Dwight might have missed wide left or shot the ball over the backboard. If that happened it would have killed him. Not sure if it would have mattered if he pulled it and it rimmed out.
Plus it'd be an insult to Jamie because he wanted it back. It'd be like saying nah I don't trust you. V bad for chemisty.
-Smak
Passing it back to a player with two defenders on him with less than three seconds on the clock, while tossing the ball to an awkward spot that didn't allow the receiver to get his feet in a position to shoot the ball on-balance was the right play?
He did get the ball to harden no? Not dwights fault that he got caught in the double team. If anything harden should have pulled up and shot the ball earlier in the play. Asking dwight to shoot a deep jumper? Now THAT is DEFINITELY the wrong play.
No wonder your team got swepted in the first round.
What? Is this supposed to be clever?
SCdac
05-22-2015, 07:47 PM
his jump shooting blows in general and he doesn't have the handles that some of the best bigs have to catch and slash to the rim fluently in a clutch situation. really, no reason he should have had the ball at that moment other then the play breaking down. Just because this thread piqued my interest, Howard's regular season career average is 5 three's made out of 48 attempts (.104) and 0 made three's in the playoffs out of a few attempts (.000). Harden should have been more aware and he got locked up
Fallen Angel
05-22-2015, 07:51 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/14/2013-12-1320_27_24.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/20131214/4924133/dwight-howard-3-pointer-o.gif
Don't be afraid of the big moment if you know you can hit the shot, deferring to your teammate who's locked up is the wrong play.
Watching the play again, not only did Harden have separation when he passed the ball to Dwight, he also had separation when Dwight passed the ball to him. Why on earth didnt he fire that second shot when the clock was running out? Even if he got passed Curry and Thompson the clock was running out.
He blew it twice in one play. Not Dwight's fault.
SCdac
05-22-2015, 08:04 PM
Don't be afraid of the big moment if you know you can hit the shot, deferring to your teammate who's locked up is the wrong play.
I agree to not be afraid, but it's worth keeping in mind a corner(ish) three, and wide open one at that, is generally easier to hit than one straight on at the end of the 4th in a clutch situation.
interesting post on the matter
http://courtvisionanalytics.com/the-cornermen-of-the-nba/
Eric Cartman
05-22-2015, 08:12 PM
Could've taken 2 steps to get to the ft line.
Then it was 50/50.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/14/2013-12-1320_27_24.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/20131214/4924133/dwight-howard-3-pointer-o.gif
Don't be afraid of the big moment if you know you can hit the shot, deferring to your teammate who's locked up is the wrong play.
Thats just a gif of one play man. Here is another gif:
http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dwight-howard-free-throw-airball-terrible-basketball-shots.gif
Which do you think is more likely?
Fallen Angel
05-22-2015, 08:17 PM
Watching the play again, not only did Harden have separation when he passed the ball to Dwight, he also had separation when he Dwight passed the ball to him. Why on earth didnt he fire that second shot when the clock was running out? Even if he got passed Curry and Thompson the clock was running out,
He blew it twice in one play. Not Dwight's fault.
Harden's feet were not set to take a three.
When he catches the ball he establishes his right foot as the pivot foot. Had he drag his left foot back to establish position for a jumpshot it was be: #1. Off Balance and #2. Been really deep.
Harden is used to stepping back diagonally to the left for a rhythm shot but he couldn't with the position of his feet so he had to drive the ball and take a shot over Curry's side. He just lost the ball while in that contested mess.
Harden's feet were not set to take a three.
When he catches the ball he establishes his right foot as the pivot foot. Had he drag his left foot back to establish position for a jumpshot it was be: #1. Off Balance and #2. Been really deep.
Harden is used to stepping back diagonally to the left for a rhythm shot but he couldn't with the position of his feet so he had to drive the ball and take a shot over Curry's side. He just lost the ball while in that contested mess.
This is the damn playoffs and Harden is a star. Yes, it's not his in rhythm move to shoot, but you have to get a shot off. Especially when you have two chances at it. You never know. It could have hit the backboard and banked in.
Harden did the same thing vs Portland. When he didnt have an in rhythm move he was lost when he had the chance to tie it up. (Or win, I dont remember the score)
Fallen Angel
05-22-2015, 08:30 PM
You don't just fling a prayer in the playoffs and hope they go in. Howard had a better chance at making a three than Harden throwing the ball toward the basket and praying it goes in.
Had Harden missed the prayer he'd get just as scrutinized for taking a bad shot than turning the ball over.
LosBulls
05-22-2015, 09:10 PM
A long 3 pointer off balance while being double teamed with 3 seconds left by James Harden....
Or a wide open 3 straight from the top of the key by Dwight Howard.
Hmm...
Jameerthefear
05-22-2015, 09:13 PM
probably cause harden called for it again. dwight isn't a perimeter player.
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