so let me get this straight. ..

[RoundMoundOfReb]

LeBron just beat the stacked, 60 win Hawk team with 4 all stars with a starting lineup of:

Dellavadova
Shumpert
Thompson
Mozgov

...

:applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

On the road too

[CelticBaller]

the hawks were just an accident waiting to happen in the playoffs

[Akrazotile]

If it looks like a GOAT...

Sounds like a GOAT...

Acts like a GOAT...

[DonDadda59]

LeBron just beat the stacked, 60 win Hawk team with 4 all stars with a starting lineup of:

Dellavadova
Shumpert
Thompson
Mozgov

...

:applause:

If you needed any further proof that this is the weakest the NBA has been since the pre-merger 70s... there you go. :cheers:

[kennethgriffin]

EAST


/thread

[Magic 32]

If it looks like May...

Sounds like May...

Acts like May...

True

It's May.

[rzp]

LeBron just beat the stacked, 60 win Hawk team with 4 all stars with a starting lineup of:

Dellavadova
Shumpert
Thompson
Mozgov

...

:applause:

:bowdown:

[Akrazotile]

True

It's May.


If it's accused of rape...

Arrested for rape...

Charged with rape...

[kennethgriffin]

If it looks like a GOAT...

Sounds like a GOAT...

Acts like a GOAT...

its akrazotile's girlfriend

http://oi43.tinypic.com/zkr5sz.jpg

[Magic 32]

If it's accused of rape...

Arrested for rape...

Charged with rape...

http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1664

[kennethgriffin]

If it's accused of rape...

Arrested for rape...

Charged with rape...



its akrazotiles girlfriend

http://oi43.tinypic.com/zkr5sz.jpg

[rzp]

LeBron just beat the stacked, 60 win Hawk team with 4 all stars with a starting lineup of:

Dellavadova
Shumpert
Thompson
Mozgov

...

:applause:

in b4 the "Warriors are just fodder" or "Warriors are fluke" thread, always trying to discredit the Letop5already James :lol

[oh the horror]

its akrazotiles girlfriend

http://oi43.tinypic.com/zkr5sz.jpg




Damn. Shut it down folks.

[rzp]

its akrazotiles girlfriend

http://oi43.tinypic.com/zkr5sz.jpg

Classy

[Velocirap31]

Post quality deteriorating quickly. Time for bed.

[Magic 32]

Classy

True.

Right up there with...

The Decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTeCc8jy7FI
The Prediction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-I8jQDQ7c
The Dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9g14BIC3M
The Cough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoOXKha7uL4
The Counterattack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKj3Zwcy7ME
The Walk of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Gz724sjAQ
The Tweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YS7YqQoJBc
The Ringless Celebration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfrlHm88tYo

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I have reported Kenneth griffin for posting inappropriate pictures that do not contribute to intelligent, unbiased bball discussion.

[gts]

Kobe Bryant @kobebryant

[Magic 32]

I have reported Kenneth griffin for posting inappropriate pictures that do not contribute to intelligent, unbiased bball discussion.

Projecting much?

[ISHGoat]

so many meltdowns today

[rzp]

True.

Right up there with...

The Decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTeCc8jy7FI
The Prediction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-I8jQDQ7c
The Dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9g14BIC3M
The Cough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoOXKha7uL4
The Counterattack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKj3Zwcy7ME
The Walk of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Gz724sjAQ
The Tweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YS7YqQoJBc
The Ringless Celebration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfrlHm88tYo

Care to make all these links? lmao

retard

[rzp]

so many meltdowns today

Kobetards on suicide watch (guess why?)

[Magic 32]

Care to make all these links? lmao

retard

Pre-made.

Here is another...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=302139

[plowking]

If you needed any further proof that this is the weakest the NBA has been since the pre-merger 70s... there you go. :cheers:

Remember when MJ and the Bulls beat those tough, stacked 57 win Cavs.

The might Brad Daugherty and Mark Price leading them. Full of superstars.

[KingBeasley08]

Care to make all these links? lmao

retard
You could tell dude is working overtime tonight after Lebrons stays winning :lol

Yo Magic 32, just give it up cuz. Kobe is retiring next year. Prob only play like 30 games after another injury. No need to hate on LeBron to compensate

[DonDadda59]

Remember when MJ and the Bulls beat those tough, stacked 57 win Cavs.

The might Brad Daugherty and Mark Price leading them. Full of superstars.

Brad Daugherty would be first team all NBA this year, wasn't even an after thought in his era as a 22/10/4 Center :oldlol:

Those Cavs teams>>>The Hawks this year.

[Akrazotile]

[QUOTE=gts]Kobe Bryant @kobebryant

[Magic 32]

Yo Magic 32, just give it up cuz. Kobe is retiring next year.

Why would I miss out on 2/6, 2/7, 2/8.....???

[zoom17]

Why would you post those pics wtf.

[plowking]

Brad Daugherty would be first team all NBA this year, wasn't even an after thought in his era as a 22/10/4 Center :oldlol:

Those Cavs teams>>>The Hawks this year.

I dare you to run down the roster and try to make the case. :oldlol:

This should be good. :oldlol:

[Young X]

Remember when MJ and the Bulls beat those tough, stacked 57 win Cavs.

The might Brad Daugherty and Mark Price leading them. Full of superstars.That team seems like a joke now because of how badly MJ and the Bulls destroyed them year after year. That team would be the best team in the east today easily.

[plowking]

Brad Daugherty would be first team all NBA this year, wasn't even an after thought in his era as a 22/10/4 Center :oldlol:

Those Cavs teams>>>The Hawks this year.

He made the all NBA team that year, 3rd team.

This year we had a 24/13/4 center on the 2nd team. I'm not getting what you're saying.

[plowking]

That team seems like a joke now because of how badly MJ and the Bulls destroyed them year after year. That team would be the best team in the east today easily.

Just like the Hawks are today...

Just like Bron is destroying them...

No wait, that only works if it isn't Bron.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Could the nostalgic old era stans also give me a rundown of the titans Magic was beating to make the finals 9 times? Thanks.

[Magic 32]

Could the nostalgic old era stans also give me a rundown of the titans Magic was beating to make the finals 9 times? Thanks.

And why don't people know?

Because it's not important.

This was important...

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/454599_o.gif

[KingBeasley08]

Could the nostalgic old era stans also give me a rundown of the titans Magic was beating to make the finals 9 times? Thanks.
Exactly. You gotta start handing Magic asterisks for his titles too. Some of the teams they played were just :roll:

[plowking]

Could the nostalgic old era stans also give me a rundown of the titans Magic was beating to make the finals 9 times? Thanks.

Those 30 win teams he was beating would be 65 win teams today.

You don't even know how good Kyle Macy was. He'd be destroying this era.

[Straight_Ballin]

If you needed any further proof that this is the weakest the NBA has been since the pre-merger 70s... there you go. :cheers:

Thread backfire. OP just shitted on himself by admitting that Bron is beating weak east teams with that cast.

This really is getting too easy....

[rzp]

And why don't people know?

Because it's not important.

This was important...

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/454599_o.gif

and1 defense :applause:

[DonDadda59]

I dare you to run down the roster and try to make the case. :oldlol:

This should be good. :oldlol:

Seriously? :oldlol:

OK. The '92 squad that Made the ECF featured:

Brad Daugherty- Legit 7 footer with career averages of 19/10/4 (53% FG) AKA shits on any player on the Hawks... do they even have a player taller than 6'9? :oldlol: Peak of 22/10/4. Name one player on the Hawks right now capable of that?

Mark Price- Another player much better than any player on the Hawks. He was a player comparable to Steve Nash- could absolutely stroke from anywhere on the court (career 40% shooter from 3) and was a master playmaker. 20/9 peak.

Larry Nance- Hate to harp on this point... but another player better than anyone on the Hawks right now. 6'10, long PF with top tier athleticism. 20/9/3 peak.

Hot Rod Williams- Another 6'10" PF who put up the type of production Horford or Millsap are putting up now... in his rookie season :oldlol:

Craig Ehlo- solid wing defender and all around player who gave you a little bit of everything- 12/5/4 while shooting over 40% from 3. For comparison sake, Kyle Korver made the ASG this year... putting up Craig Ehlo numbers without the defense.

Then they had one of the best 3 point shooters in NBA History in Kerr coming off the bench. Along with strong contributors like future all star Terrell Brandon (Better than any Hawks PG in his prime :lol ), John Battle, and Mike Sanders.

As a squad they were 2nd in offensive rating and averaged 28 assists per game.

How is this even a debate? Name one player on the Hawks right now who had a better peak... hell who was the caliber of player that Daugherty, Price, or Nance were.

[HelterSkelter]

Those 30 win teams he was beating would be 65 win teams today.

You don't even know how good Kyle Macy was. He'd be destroying this era.


lol Kyle Macy.

I remember watching old games and seeing him play. (I'm not a 60s or 70s baby)

I think he greatly embodied the "white guys are shooters" belief. :oldlol:

[Magic 32]

and1 defense :applause:

Era shaming?

self defeating

[veilside23]

yes thats great but lets not act as if he is really beating a superior team... its just like when gstate beat dallas in the past .. hawks are a good team but they arent even better than portland to be honest.

[Young X]

Just like the Hawks are today...

Just like Bron is destroying them...

No wait, that only works if it isn't Bron.Except those Cavs teams were actually competitive and fought wire to wire against all time great Bulls teams only to lose to 3 MJ series winning shots.

The Hawks just lost 2 straight home games against a Cavs team without 2 all star level players. Same Hawks that needed 6 games to beat the 38 win Nets lmao

[plowking]

Seriously? :oldlol:

OK. The '92 squad that Made the ECF featured:

Brad Daugherty- Legit 7 footer with career averages of 19/10/4 (53% FG) AKA shits on any player on the Hawks... do they even have a player taller than 6'9? :oldlol: Peak of 22/10/4. Name one player on the Hawks right now capable of that?

Mark Price- Another player much better than any player on the Hawks. He was a player comparable to Steve Nash- could absolutely stroke from anywhere on the court (career 40% shooter from 3) and was a master playmaker. 20/9 peak.

Larry Nance- Hate to harp on this point... but another player better than anyone on the Hawks right now. 6'10, long PF with top tier athleticism. 20/9/3 peak.

Hot Rod Williams- Another 6'10" PF who put up the type of production Horford or Millsap are putting up now... in his rookie season :oldlol:

Craig Ehlo- solid wing defender and all around player who gave you a little bit of everything- 12/5/4 while shooting over 40% from 3.

Then they had one of the best 3 point shooters in NBA History in Kerr coming off the bench. Along with strong contributors like future all star Terrell Brandon (Better than any Hawks PG in his prime :lol ), John Battle, and Mike Sanders.

As a squad they were 2nd in offensive rating and averaged 28 assists per game.

How is this even a debate? Name one player on the Hawks right now who had a better peak... hell who was the caliber of player that Daugherty, Price, or Nance were.


:oldlol:

Cool. Completely overrated everyone on the team. :oldlol:
Why do I need to know what Larry Nance's peak was? I'm talking about that team.
Hot Rod as good as Millsap and Horford? Fark me... lol

Atlanta's bench shits all over the Cavs.

Horford<BD
Millsap=Nance
Carroll>Ehlo
Korver>Sanders
Teague=Price

[plowking]

Except those Cavs teams were actually competitive and fought wire to wire against all time great Bulls teams only to lose to 3 MJ series winning shots.

The Hawks just lost 2 straight home games against a Cavs team without 2 all star level players. Same Hawks that needed 6 games to beat the 38 win Nets lmao

Can we stop pretending that this is some factor that tops everything.

Did the Celtics in 08 suck and not count as an all time great team due to going to 7 against a 37 win Hawks team?

Full of agendas on here. :facepalm

[Young X]

You seriously think Teague is equal to Mark Price? :oldlol:

Price would easily be a top 5 PG in 2015.

Daughtery and Price >> Anyone on the Hawks.

Hawks don't really have anyone who can consistently create offense when they need it the most against elite teams. Teague should be that guy but he looks shook out there half the time.

[DonDadda59]

:oldlol:

Cool. Completely overrated everyone on the team. :oldlol:
Why do I need to know what Larry Nance's peak was? I'm talking about that team.

Because roles change when players are in different situations, ie Chris Bosh being the same player on the Heat he was on the Raptors, just having to tailor his game to LeBron ball/being the third option.

Millsap's production/peak in every team/situation is the same as it is now. Same with Horford. They are c. 17/8 caliber players at their absolute best/peak in any situation.


Hot Rod as good as Millsap and Horford? Fark me... lol

Did he or did he not put up the same general level of production as those two are now... in his rookie season? :confusedshrug:


Atlanta's bench shits all over the Cavs.

How do you figure? :oldlol:




Horford<BD

Daugherty was on a different level than Horford. Especially offensively (and I include passing/playmaking). Not even close.


Millsap=Nance

Nance was far more athletic and better defensively and was better at creating his own shot.


Carroll>Ehlo

Debatable. Ehlo filled a lot of holes and was a much better playmaker. They are comparable in terms of defensive impact.


Korver>Sanders

Can't argue with that, Korver with his 12 PPG was an all star in this stellar era :roll:


Teague=Price

:biggums:

Now I know you're trolling. Price is in the class of a Steve Nash. Jeff Teague is a scrub and nowhere remotely the sort of passer/playmaker or shooter that Price was. Study your History. :facepalm

Seriously, Have you not seen how inept the Hawks have been this post season? Especially now. They're a team that tried to play like the Spurs only they don't have the requisite talent. They looked like a D-League team out there against the Cavs practice squad.

[DonDadda59]

You seriously think Teague is equal to Mark Price? :oldlol:



Someone in another thread said that Teague was the equivalent of '08 Chris Paul. These nigguhs are all on the bath salts. Only explanation I could think of. :confusedshrug:

[veilside23]

Can we stop pretending that this is some factor that tops everything.

Did the Celtics in 08 suck and not count as an all time great team due to going to 7 against a 37 win Hawks team?

Full of agendas on here. :facepalm


its not like its the same team really. joe johnson and josh smith is way better than korver and millsap combined.. try again ...

[plowking]

You seriously think Teague is equal to Mark Price? :oldlol:

Price would easily be a top 5 PG in 2015.

Daughtery and Price >> Anyone on the Hawks.

Hawks don't really have anyone who can consistently create offense when they need it the most against elite teams. Teague should be that guy but he looks shook out there half the time.

Yes, Teague is as good as Mark Price.

You gonna sit here and pretend 16/7 that Teague puts up isn't as good as the 17/7 that Price is putting up? Take into account Teague is more dynamic and versatile, while also being a better defender... he probably causes more mismatches than Price does.

Top 5 PG? Fark off. This is why no one can have a decent conversation with you old school dickeads on here. :oldlol:
Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, etc. He'd get smoked playing defense against any of them, and they are all better.

Hence, bolded is all wrong.

[plowking]

its not like its the same team really. joe johnson and josh smith is way better than korver and millsap combined.. try again ...

Yeah, exactly. Big names is what wins you games. That is why there was 23 wins between them. :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Yes, Teague is as good as Mark Price.

You've lost all credibility in this thread. Yet you keep going. Odd. :confusedshrug:

You know how I know you don't know the first thing about Mark Price and never actually saw him play? :lol

[oh the horror]

Apparently cats forgot about Mark Price

[plowking]

You've lost all credibility in this thread. Yet you keep going. Odd. :confusedshrug:

You know how I know you don't know the first thing about Mark Price and never actually saw him play? :lol

Dude... you said Price was in the same class as Nash. Leave before you look more of an idiot than you do in the boxing threads.
Hollywood getting to you bro. You starting to believe some of your own fairytales.

[DonDadda59]

Dude... you said Price was in the same class as Nash.

Because he is. Price was quicker, more athletic but could stroke it just as well from any/every spot on the floor (50-40-90 club member). Plus he had a killer crossover, knew how to split and read defenses with the best of them. You comparing him to Jeff f*cking Teague, a third rate PG (on his best day) shows you don't have the slightest clue who Mark Price was.


Apparently cats forgot about Mark Price

Can't forget what you never knew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sua9u318wGo)

[Young X]

Yes, Teague is as good as Mark Price.

You gonna sit here and pretend 16/7 that Teague puts up isn't as good as the 17/7 that Price is putting up? Take into account Teague is more dynamic and versatile, while also being a better defender... he probably causes more mismatches than Price does.

Top 5 PG? Fark off. This is why no one can have a decent conversation with you old school dickeads on here. :oldlol:
Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, etc. He'd get smoked playing defense against any of them, and they are all better.

Hence, bolded is all wrong.Price averaged 17/7 in less than 30 MPG. That's 21/9 per 36 MPG. Then you add the fact that he's one of the greatest shooters of all time on top of that.

Wall and Irving as they are right now aren't better than Price. Price is a similar/better scorer than Irving, far better playmaker and neither are anything special defensively. Wall is a far inferior offensive player to Price as well although he's better defensively. Don't see any reason why Price wouldn't be top 5.

Daugherty would be in the conversation as the best big man today as well.

Can't believe you think Teague is equal to Price :biggums:

Next you'll probably tell me how much better Marc Gasol is than Alonzo Mourning lmao

[warriorfan]

Seriously? :oldlol:

OK. The '92 squad that Made the ECF featured:

Brad Daugherty- Legit 7 footer with career averages of 19/10/4 (53% FG) AKA shits on any player on the Hawks... do they even have a player taller than 6'9? :oldlol: Peak of 22/10/4. Name one player on the Hawks right now capable of that?

Mark Price- Another player much better than any player on the Hawks. He was a player comparable to Steve Nash- could absolutely stroke from anywhere on the court (career 40% shooter from 3) and was a master playmaker. 20/9 peak.

Larry Nance- Hate to harp on this point... but another player better than anyone on the Hawks right now. 6'10, long PF with top tier athleticism. 20/9/3 peak.

Hot Rod Williams- Another 6'10" PF who put up the type of production Horford or Millsap are putting up now... in his rookie season :oldlol:

Craig Ehlo- solid wing defender and all around player who gave you a little bit of everything- 12/5/4 while shooting over 40% from 3. For comparison sake, Kyle Korver made the ASG this year... putting up Craig Ehlo numbers without the defense.

Then they had one of the best 3 point shooters in NBA History in Kerr coming off the bench. Along with strong contributors like future all star Terrell Brandon (Better than any Hawks PG in his prime :lol ), John Battle, and Mike Sanders.

As a squad they were 2nd in offensive rating and averaged 28 assists per game.

How is this even a debate? Name one player on the Hawks right now who had a better peak... hell who was the caliber of player that Daugherty, Price, or Nance were.


DonDadda shutting shit down as usual. :applause:


Mark Price = Jeff Teague? :oldlol: This is insane. Mark Price is a Steve Nash type player except tougher and stronger. Let's put it this way, Steve Nash would have a tough time reproducing Mark Price's career if he played in his era with the handchecking, rule changes, and physical defense. Price vs Teague: Price is a better shooter, passer, playmaker, defense is a wash but point guard defense is overrated regardless.


Like Don said, Daughtery shits on Al Horford offensively. Defensively there could be a case for Al Horford but it would be very slim and it wont make up for the gap that Daughtery has over Al offensively.


Nance is just in a different tier of athleticism as Paul Milsap. Milsap doesn't have the length, height, and athleticism that Nance had. The only thing that Milsap could do better than Larry Nance is box people out. Doesn't matter much because with Nance's athleticism he gets to more loose balls so they end up being equal in rebounding.


I could go on but it seems like a waste of time at this point. Once again props to Dadda for laying the smack down. These cats can't handle the truth.

[oh the horror]

If we are going down memory lane of Cavs guards in comparison to Jeff Teague then shit, Teague isn't even Terrell Brandon for christs sake :oldlol:

[mehyaM24]

plowking doesn't speak for all lebron fans. i admit the east is incredibly weak this season - hell, nobody that is sane would argue otherwise.

Tbf its best to ignore his cringey rants.

[DonDadda59]

If we are going down memory lane of Cavs guards in comparison to Jeff Teague then shit, Teague isn't even Terrell Brandon for christs sake :oldlol:

Said the same thing above. :lol

And Terrell was coming off the bench for them along with one of the best 3 point shooters ever in Steve Kerr.

But the bath salts got these guys putting Jeff f*cking Teague in that stratosphere.

[oh the horror]

Look man I'm not saying Jeff Teague is straight up garbage or anything. He's a nice moderate average to good guard. That would PROBABLY be best served to be coming off the bench for an actual contender. That's what he IS

[warriorfan]

I'm pretty sure plowking is a Nash guy too. How does someone that is high on Steve Nash say that Jeff Teague = Mark Price?



:biggums:

[oh the horror]

Man, Mark Price was a cold little motherfu*ker.

[bballnoob1192]

who the **** did the cavs played in the first round? i know they played the bulls in the second round.

[oh the horror]

who the **** did the cavs played in the first round? i know they played the bulls in the second round.




Boston. Almost forgot too :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Highlight clips aren't the best for evaluating skills but it's fairly obvious when you watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sua9u318wGo


vs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgyT9LPTVhk





Mark Price is getting mad disrespected here. Watch his game, he was basically a prototype for Steve Nash and Steph Curry.

[coin24]

Anyone watching this series knows Teague is a fkn scrub are you serious??
That shroder guy shits on him

Mark price was 100 times better. Standard plowking propping up his beloved bran:lol I think everyone can see it's just unfolded that the cavs have the easiest run to the finals of all time.. No one could have predicted this it's insane

[Mr Feeny]

Dude... you said Price was in the same class as Nash. Leave before you look more of an idiot than you do in the boxing threads.
Hollywood getting to you bro. You starting to believe some of your own fairytales.

Tbf you have no idea what you're talking about and it's clear that you never watched Mark Price. As for saying that Teague is a better player than him? Wow. That's one of the most embarassing gaffs I've seen all week here on the ish:oldlol:

Kids...

[Im Still Ballin]

don spewing biased nostalgic garbage as usual

Those one dimensional teams from the illegal defense era would get EXPOSED today

Hawks would burn the shit out of them

It would be hilarious watching Korver get open looks all night

This is the hawks team that had a 20 game win streak or something this season

[FPJ]

plowking doesn't speak for all lebron fans. i admit the east is incredibly weak this season - hell, nobody that is sane would argue otherwise.

Tbf its best to ignore his cringey rants.

Wasn't Atlanta better against the West? Cant look for it right now. Also Cleveland?

[chazzy]

I feel like most of plowkings posts are just trolling/contrarian and everyone gets baited into it.

[warriorfan]

don spewing biased nostalgic garbage as usual

Those one dimensional teams from the illegal defense era would get EXPOSED today

Hawks would burn the shit out of them

It would be hilarious watching Korver get open looks all night

This is the hawks team that had a 20 game win streak or something this season



Extremely vague post in order to mask his lack of basketball knowledge. :lol


Care to give us a rundown on how Teague's hawks are better than Price's Cav's? :lol

[plowking]

I feel like most of plowkings posts are just trolling/contrarian and everyone gets baited into it.

They are. Well not all of it, but if you're going to over exaggerate, so will I.

Nash has as many 1st team all NBA selections as Price does all up, and 2 MVP's and people sit here and pretend they are cut from the same cloth?

F*cking ridiculous.

Bunch of hypocrites on here falling for the bait perfectly. They actually sit here and defend the Price=Nash comment, but act outraged at Teague=Price. :oldlol:

Don sitting here pretending that Horford and Millsap both maxed out as 17/8 players when both have averaged better than that in their careers, and no one calls him out on it. Saying Hot Rod Williams is the same level as them? :oldlol:

Pretending that Demarre Carroll is equal to Ehlo?

No one picked out like 5 glaring bullshit points in his post but y'all out here hanging your hat on one point I made to bait people in? And even by using Dadda's logic, my point still stands, since he was using overall production. :oldlol:

I'm done.

[plowking]

Tbf you have no idea what you're talking about and it's clear that you never watched Mark Price. As for saying that Teague is a better player than him? Wow. That's one of the most embarassing gaffs I've seen all week here on the ish:oldlol:

Kids...

Show me where I said that?

Dadda used production logic to explain to me Hot Rod Williams was somehow as good as Horford and Millsap, so how is it wrong to say that Teague=Price based on that same reasoning?

[warriorfan]

They are. Well not all of it, but if you're going to over exaggerate, so will I.

Nash has as many 1st team all NBA selections as Price does all up, and 2 MVP's and people sit here and pretend they are cut from the same cloth?

F*cking ridiculous.

Bunch of hypocrites on here falling for the bait perfectly. They actually sit here and defend the Price=Nash comment, but act outraged at Teague=Price. :oldlol:

Don sitting here pretending that Horford and Millsap both maxed out as 17/8 players when both have averaged better than that in their careers, and no one calls him out on it. Saying Hot Rod Williams is the same level as them? :oldlol:

Pretending that Demarre Carroll is equal to Ehlo?

No one picked out like 5 glaring bullshit points in his post but y'all out here hanging your hat on one point I made to bait people in? And even by using Dadda's logic, my point still stands, since he was using overall production. :oldlol:

I'm done.


You are straw manning hard core. Why the fucc are you brining Steve Nash into this when YOU said that Teague = Price. Want to elaborate more on that bullshit?


Who is pretending Al Horford and Milsap maxed out as 17/8 players? More strawman. Posters including myself said that Daugherty > Horford and Nance > Milsap. Do you care to refute that in a logical manner?



The only truthful thing you said in this post is "I'm done"...

[Im Still Ballin]

don has a clear bias

Offenses and defenses have never been better than today IMO

This warriors team would wreck most 90's teams in the rules today

[plowking]

You are straw manning hard core. Why the fucc are you brining Steve Nash into this when YOU said that Teague = Price. Want to elaborate more on that bullshit?

The debate was originally with Dadda. He said Nash=Price. How is that anymore ridiculous than Teague=Price, especially since it was based on production. They both put up 16 or 17 points and 7 assists. It led Dadda to saying Hot Rod Williams is as good as Horford and Millsap. Is it not fair to then say Teague=Price based on the same logic?



Who is pretending Al Horford and Milsap maxed out as 17/8 players? More strawman. Posters including myself said that Daugherty > Horford and Nance > Milsap. Do you care to refute that in a logical manner?

Dadda literally made that post in either this thread, or another one where a similar debate was happening.
I agree with your rankings, although Nance at the time wasn't as good as he used to be, so Millsap was right there with him.




The only truthful thing you said in this post is "I'm done"...

About as insightful as your view of the boxing match.

[warriorfan]

Ok, I skimmed most of the thread and what jumped out at me was the Teague = Price statement. It sounds like that isn't what you really ment and you are coming around though.


Can we be in agreement that

Price > Teague

Daugherty > Horford

Nance > Milsap

[plowking]

Ok, I skimmed most of the thread and what jumped out at me was the Teague = Price statement. It sounds like that isn't what you really ment and you are coming around though.


Can we be in agreement that

Price > Teague

Daugherty > Horford

Nance > Milsap

Milsap and Nance are closer than people will give it credit for. The rest is true, but at the same time, this Atlanta team is as good as that Cavs team overall. Yet people on here acting like the Cavs are some beast, while Atlanta is some bum team.

Korver and Carroll both have trumps on their position.

My point is, you could do this comparison with the Hawks and many other teams in the league currently, and you'd come to a similar conclusion, yet the Hawks are a better team.

[warriorfan]

Milsap and Nance are closer than people will give it credit for. The rest is true, but at the same time, this Atlanta team is as good as that Cavs team overall. Yet people on here acting like the Cavs are some beast, while Atlanta is some bum team.

Korver and Carroll both have trumps on their position.

My point is, you could do this comparison with the Hawks and many other teams in the league currently, and you'd come to a similar conclusion, yet the Hawks are a better team.


I see what you are saying how the Hawks are a great team as in they mesh very well with eachother and the sum is greater than the parts. But at the same time the proof of that "great team" was mainly gained through tearing up the weak eastern conference in the regular season which is where the original argument started.


Listen I think LeBron is great and people are selling him short for the accomplishment of making the Finals every year but at the same time you need to admit the East has been weak in recent history. Again it's not even a HUGE knock on LeBron but something that gets blown out of proportion by ISH but at the same time cannot be completely ignored. Anyways it looks like we have come to a decent compromise. :cheers:

[veilside23]

Yeah, exactly. Big names is what wins you games. That is why there was 23 wins between them. :facepalm


wow tell me do you really believe that joe johnson is just a big name ? and kyle korver is way better than joe johnson

as for millsap vs smith yes its toss up .. but josh smith is better defensively.

try not to act like its just a big name...

[veilside23]

They are. Well not all of it, but if you're going to over exaggerate, so will I.

Nash has as many 1st team all NBA selections as Price does all up, and 2 MVP's and people sit here and pretend they are cut from the same cloth?

F*cking ridiculous.

Bunch of hypocrites on here falling for the bait perfectly. They actually sit here and defend the Price=Nash comment, but act outraged at Teague=Price. :oldlol:

Don sitting here pretending that Horford and Millsap both maxed out as 17/8 players when both have averaged better than that in their careers, and no one calls him out on it. Saying Hot Rod Williams is the same level as them? :oldlol:

Pretending that Demarre Carroll is equal to Ehlo?

No one picked out like 5 glaring bullshit points in his post but y'all out here hanging your hat on one point I made to bait people in? And even by using Dadda's logic, my point still stands, since he was using overall production. :oldlol:

I'm done.


at the end of the day ... its all about this

MJ rings 6 out of 6

your lebron well so far 2/5 .... you could care less about this and that but thats the fact...

[Quickening]

People moan that Lebron doesn't beat enough 50 win teams in the playoffs, when he is beating a 60 win team they get called rubbish :roll: :lol

[plowking]

I see what you are saying how the Hawks are a great team as in they mesh very well with eachother and the sum is greater than the parts. But at the same time the proof of that "great team" was mainly gained through tearing up the weak eastern conference in the regular season which is where the original argument started.


Listen I think LeBron is great and people are selling him short for the accomplishment of making the Finals every year but at the same time you need to admit the East has been weak in recent history. Again it's not even a HUGE knock on LeBron but something that gets blown out of proportion by ISH but at the same time cannot be completely ignored. Anyways it looks like we have come to a decent compromise. :cheers:

I honestly couldn't give a damn about Bron, but it is just the same recurring theme with the same people.

The Hawks played well against the East and the West. You can't say a team that went 22-8 against the West is just average. That record against the West over 82 games puts them right on line for... 60 wins...

East has been weak. No one is denying it, but it isn't nearly as bad as people make out. This is just another example. The Hawks are a great team, yet no one is giving them credit.
If we were to do the same comparison for the Hawks and this years Bulls, the Bulls would be better at every position. Yet they aren't close to the team the Hawks are.

The only reason this team is being bashed in the fashion it is, is because Bron is involved. I don't particularly care who wins the finals, since it will be a brand new champion, so exciting in that regard, but people need to stop the bias bullshit. It is the same threads over and over and the same crap being spewed in each of those threads.
The Hawks are a great team, they're just being outplayed by a worse team in the Cavs.

[veilside23]

People moan that Lebron doesn't beat enough 50 win teams in the playoffs, when he is beating a 60 win team they get called rubbish :roll: :lol


tell me is atlanta better than portland... seriously.

[DMAVS41]

tell me is atlanta better than portland... seriously.

They aren't better than any Western Conference playoff teams the way they have played the last 2 months or so.

Doesn't take away from 2 master performances by Lebron, but right now the Hawks are playing like ass.

Again...the Cavs deserve credit, but the East around them is even more of a joke this year than it usually is.

I honestly don't think there was one team in the East outside the Cavs that would have been better than 50/50 to get out of the first round.


People thought the Mavs sucked just because they lost to the Rockets (in some close games mind you)...Just a product of playing in a tough conference. The Mavs...even with no Parsons and the Rondo thing...would have beaten all but maybe 2 or 3 teams in the East for sure in the playoffs...and would be absolutely "live" against everyone else.

It has to change. The last 3 first round opponents for the Mavs:

12 Thunder (Finals)
14 Spurs (Championship)
15 Rockets (WCF)

If they were in the East...they would have been making the conference finals likely. Just stupid.

[MellowYellow]

People moan that Lebron doesn't beat enough 50 win teams in the playoffs, when he is beating a 60 win team they get called rubbish :roll: :lol

The Hawks have imploded much like last year's Pacers. The Hawks haven't looked anything like a 60 win team since the all star break.

[Quickening]

The Hawks have imploded much like last year's Pacers. The Hawks haven't looked anything like a 60 win team since the all star break.

It doesn't matter, people make the argument that Lebron doesn't beat enough team with x amount of wins in regular season like that matters massively in playoffs.... as emphasised by him beating a 60 win team with half of his team injured.

[MellowYellow]

It doesn't matter, people make the argument that Lebron doesn't beat enough team with x amount of wins in regular season like that matters massively in playoffs.... as emphasised by him beating a 60 win team with half of his team injured.
I don't think it's the overall wins but the actual talent of those teams.