Name me another superstar who could have led this injured Cavs team to the finals

[Kidbasketball20]

No one.


KD couldn't.
Westbrook couldn't.
Harden couldn't.
Curry couldn't.
Kawhi couldn't.
Prime Kobe couldn't.
Prime Jordan couldn't.


#1 all time. LeBron LeBronaRon James

[bballnoob1192]

in this years east?

[kennethgriffin]

KD
Westbrook
Harden
Curry
Kawhi
Prime Kobe
Prime Jordan


and many more


lebron is sleep walking into the finals

[Lensanity]

Kawhi? :lol

[Prime_Shaq]

Prime Jordan/Prime Shaq

[Cocaine80s]

Prime Jeremy Lin

[Marchesk]

Peak Carmelo Anthony

[BlakFrankWhite]

Kawhi? :lol


:roll:

[veilside23]

No one.


KD couldn't.
Westbrook couldn't.
Harden couldn't.
Curry couldn't.
Kawhi couldn't.
Prime Kobe couldn't.
Prime Jordan couldn't.


#1 all time. LeBron LeBronaRon James


are you sure about this??

east this year..

hawks #1 team isnt even better than portland

[warriorfan]

No one.


KD couldn't.
Westbrook couldn't.
Harden couldn't.
Curry couldn't.
Kawhi couldn't.
Prime Kobe couldn't.
Prime Jordan couldn't.


#1 all time. LeBron LeBronaRon James


http://s21.postimg.org/cfrynz1mv/AMC30.jpg

[NumberSix]

Not Durant. He's a terrible playoff performer.

[DFish24]

Pretty much anybody in the top 25 given the crappy competition he has been facing. Bran stans need to chill out, they're acting like he's leading them to the finals in the West or something.

[ImKobe]

08 Kobe's supporting cast:

Pau Gasol 16.9/9.3/4.0/1.9
Lamar Odom 14.3/10.0/3.0/1.3
Derek Fisher 10.2/2.2/2.5/2.0 44% from 3
Vladimir Radmanovic 8.0/3.8/1.5 37% from 3
Sasha Vujacic 8.1/2.2/0.8 39% from 3

Lebron's supporting cast this year

Irving 18.9/3.3/3.5/1.1 47% from 3
JR Smith 12.7/3.9/1.2/1.4 40% from 3
Shumpert 10.3/5.0/1.2/1.2/0.9 36% from 3
Mozgov 8.8/7.4/1.8
Thompson 8.8/10.0/1.3

plus Kevin Love's help first 3 games of the Celtics series, Dellavedova going off on Bulls to seal the series

Kobe 08 first 3 rounds:

32/6/6 on 51% shooting, 22 FGA

Lebron's Playoff numbers so far

27/10/8 on 43% shooting, 24.3 FGA

Seems like 08 Kobe could lead this very team to the Finals because he had a similar supporting cast, only that he didn't have the 2nd best player in the Conference on his team and he beat a 50-win Denver, 54-win Jazz and a 56-win Spurs, all of them better than the teams Lebron has faced so far.

And give me one game from Lebron's Playoff run that has been as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB9gzjXTcI

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_wKwanldc

[SexSymbol]

MJ
Russell
Wilt
Hakeem
Kobe
Duncan
West
Erving
Ewing
Durant
Westbrook
Curry
Harden
Sam Jones
Havlicek
Stockton
Malone
Malone
Scottie Pippen
Allen Iverson
Steve Francis
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Shaq
David Robinson
Anthony Davis
Dirk Nowitzki
Charles Barkley
Kevin McHale
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Dominique Wilkins
Pau Gasol


I'm probably forgetting 20-30 names

[k0kakw0rld]

Pretty much anybody in the top 25 given the crappy competition he has been facing. Bran stans need to chill out, they're acting like he's leading them to the finals in the West or something.
Crappy? People expected the Bulls to win it all, they failed and now they are not a good team. :oldlol: Everything for you guys not to look foolish...It ain't working enjoy the letter L

L for LameAssfools or LetsKillOurselves :cry:

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/603781tumblrn6o2g5i7To1qj4315o1500.gif (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=603781tumblrn6o2g5i7To1qj4315o1500.g if)

[ImKobe]

Crappy? People expected the Bulls to win it all, they failed and now they are not a good team. :oldlol: Everything for you guys not to look foolish...It ain't working enjoy the letter L

L for LameAssfools or LetsKillOurselves :cry:



Pau Gasol was the only all-NBA team player on the roster and he missed two games and played injured (with limited minutes) in 3 out of 4 games.

Bulls were 2 - 1 at that point and they lost 3 in a row. Bulls won Game 1 with Pau putting up 21/10/4 on 63% shooting, that was the only game he wasn't on minutes restriction and didn't struggle with the injury.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bulls lost 3 games in a row because they struggled to score, who was the best scorer on their team? Pau.

[sekachu]

No one.


KD couldn't.
Westbrook couldn't.
Harden couldn't.
Curry couldn't.
Kawhi couldn't.
Prime Kobe couldn't.
Prime Jordan couldn't.


#1 all time. LeBron LeBronaRon James



lol, it exposed that you don't realize how weak the east is. The cavalier is like the 2007 all the way to final then got smashed. The east this year is more inferior than 2007.

[masonanddixon]

lol they beat a mediocre Bulls squad missing its best player for 3 games.

[knickscity]

No one? More like every single one of them if healthy.

[pastis]

KD
Westbrook
Harden
Curry
Kawhi
Prime Kobe
Prime Jordan


and many more


lebron is sleep walking into the finals

you dont need prime kobe or prime jordan to lead this squad through the EC to the finals. kobe in the 2012-2013 season could do it i think.

dirk could do this even after his prime, AD, duncan, KD, wesbrook, demarcus cousins, aldridge etc.


im really shocked about this lowskillness of the hawks in the first 2 games and of the bulls the last 2 games of the series.
james played really really good, mvp like, but cmon, its not because of the "superb defense" of the cavs or their phenomenal offense that they eliminated the weak ass bulls or the hawks. bulls just couldnt hit an open jumper for life and their def was nearly as bad as the mavs def:lol

and hawks...everyone knew it that they are just heroes of an "EC-format"type, everyone knew that they would fail. incredible that player like korver have an all star selection.

real all-nba or all star players are stepping up in the playoffs, like dirk, kd, lebron, kobe etc.pp....but this hawks team right now...lol, im so disappointed

[sportjames23]

in this years east?


This.

OP had to known he'd get this answer.

[JebronLames]

No one cuz he is the goat. Crazy thing is he won a championship with worse in 2013, but no one realizes it because of the big names. Injured overrated shit complement Wade, out of position bosh, and getting out rebounded every game. He won with that!!!!

[UK2K]

I feel like Harden, Durant, and WB could.

[Eric Cartman]

Many players could've, at least the top 20 of all time + Curry/Durant/Westbrook/Harden and a few others.

Hawks are terrible, Bulls are choking bastards.

[MellowYellow]

No one cuz he is the goat. Crazy thing is he won a championship with worse in 2013, but no one realizes it because of the big names. Injured overrated shit complement Wade, out of position bosh, and getting out rebounded every game. He won with that!!!!

oh, you mean when Ray Allen saved Lebron from being 1/5?

[Optimus Prime]

Name me one who couldn't have.

This Leastern Conference is historically terrible. The Cavs, given their complete lack of competition, are totally stacked for the joke of a conference they play in.

It's all good though. Once LeBeta faces a real team again he will be 2/6.

:party:

[toxicxr6]

Duncan carried a far worse team to a championship in 2003... Prime Duncan would probably sweep the East with that squad

[edrick]

The haters have nothing to say, other than the east sucking. So mad.

[Taller than CP3]

Playing the way that they are right now and considering how bad the East has been, I don't even think they need Lebron to go to the Finals.

[1~Gibson~1]

Better question: How many other superstars have led their team to the finals with no other all-stars on the roster?

[imnew09]

First round against Celtics ( Name me a Celtic star)
Second round against Bulls ( Brick City, no offense at all)
Conference against Hawks without wings( Chicken)



Put Current Kobe on the Cavs and he will take them to the Final

[Fudge]

LeBron James.

That's it.

[imdaman99]

I feel like Harden, Durant, and WB could.
This. I would add chef Curry to this list as well.

[aj1987]

Pretty much anybody in the top 25 given the crappy competition he has been facing. Bran stans need to chill out, they're acting like he's leading them to the finals in the West or something.
You think Curry would make the Finals if Bogut was out and Klay was playing on one leg?

[3ball]

You think Curry would make the Finals if Bogut was out and Klay was playing on one leg?


That shows how much talent Lebron STARTED WITH, that he can lose a couple guys and his supporting cast is still equal with Curry's.

Thompson < Green

Shumpert = Iggy

JR Smith > Barnes

Kyrie > Klay

Mosgov > Bogut (just look at their stats - prime Bogut is LONG GONE)


2015 Per-100 Possession Stats:

Mosgov: 22.1 PPG, 14.5 RPG, 2.5 BLK
Bogut:.. 13.0 PPG, 16.5 RPG, 3.5 BLK

[aj1987]

That shows how much talent Lebron STARTED WITH, that he can lose a couple guys and his supporting cast is still equal with Curry's.

Thompson < Green

Shumpert < Iggy

JR Smith > Barnes

Kyrie < Klay

Mosgov < Bogut (just look at their stats - prime Bogut is LONG GONE)


2015 Per-100 Possession Stats:

Mosgov: 22.1 PPG, 14.5 RPG, 2.5 BLK
Bogut:.. 13.0 PPG, 16.5 RPG, 3.5 BLK
FTFY, Mr. 29-17.

[Fudge]

MOZgov, 3rdBall. It's MOZgov.

[Wade's Rings]

Prime Wade

[KG215]

You think Curry would make the Finals if Bogut was out and Klay was playing on one leg?
In the West? No. In this year's East with the rest of his deep Warriors squad? Yes.

Look, part of the reason LeBron's teammates are shooting this well and playing this well on offense is because of the attention he draws and his passing ability. However, he's had some pretty "meh" games, where even his passing/playmaking was somewhat negated by a high number of turnovers, and the Cavs still won, mostly because apparently about every team in the East is pretty inept on offense.

Could any other player in the NBA right now lead them through the East while winning this comfortably on a regular basis? Maybe not (although I think if you took last year's Durant or a 100% Durant it'd be pretty close), but they could still navigate this year's Cavs through the East. Pretty much every game at least one or two of J.R., Shumpert, James Jones, and Dellavedova are hot from three. Yes, that's because they are getting wide-open looks because of the attention LeBron gets on offense and his passing ability, but there are other players in the league who draw a similar amount of attention who are good enough passers/playmakers to generate enough wide-open looks from three for those players to win by enough to win three best-of-seven series in this year's East.

The reason I think Durant could do it pretty easily, too, is because he's spearheaded some very lethal offensive lineups in OKC as a smallball four with less shooters than the Cavs have this year. You could still play Durant at PF and play two or three of Smith, Shumpert, Delly, or Jones. And while Durant isn't on LeBron's level as a passer/playmaker, he's proven he's more than capable of being a good enough one to facilitate from the mid and high post area to an extent that would be good enough to lead the Cavs through the East and to the Finals.

I think some of the elite guards (Curry, Harden, Westbrook, CP3) could do it too, they just couldn't play PF in a smallball lineup so you couldn't have quite as many shooters on the floor at a time as you can with someone like LeBron or Durant.

[kNicKz]

With new rules / level of competition in the East Michael Jordan would probably lose around 3 games tops in the post season with the Cavs. Don't be disrespectful throwing him in at the end like that

[ZMonkey11]

No one.


KD couldn't.
Westbrook couldn't.
Harden couldn't.
Curry couldn't.
Kawhi couldn't.
Prime Kobe couldn't.
Prime Jordan couldn't.


#1 all time. LeBron LeBronaRon James

Are these idiots breeding with each other?

[aj1987]

In the West? No. In this year's East with the rest of his deep Warriors squad? Yes.

Look, part of the reason LeBron's teammates are shooting this well and playing this well on offense is because of the attention he draws and his passing ability. However, he's had some pretty "meh" games, where even his passing/playmaking was somewhat negated by a high number of turnovers, and the Cavs still won, mostly because apparently about every team in the East is pretty inept on offense.

Could any other player in the NBA right now lead them through the East while winning this comfortably on a regular basis? Maybe not (although I think if you took last year's Durant or a 100% Durant it'd be pretty close), but they could still navigate this year's Cavs through the East. Pretty much every game at least one or two of J.R., Shumpert, James Jones, and Dellavedova are hot from three. Yes, that's because they are getting wide-open looks because of the attention LeBron gets on offense and his passing ability, but there are other players in the league who draw a similar amount of attention who are good enough passers/playmakers to generate enough wide-open looks from three for those players to win by enough to win three best-of-seven series in this year's East.

The reason I think Durant could do it pretty easily, too, is because he's spearheaded some very lethal offensive lineups in OKC as a smallball four with less shooters than the Cavs have this year. You could still play Durant at PF and play two or three of Smith, Shumpert, Delly, or Jones. And while Durant isn't on LeBron's level as a passer/playmaker, he's proven he's more than capable of being a good enough one to facilitate from the mid and high post area to an extent that would be good enough to lead the Cavs through the East and to the Finals.

I think some of the elite guards (Curry, Harden, Westbrook, CP3) could do it too, they just couldn't play PF in a smallball lineup so you couldn't have quite as many shooters on the floor at a time as you can with someone like LeBron or Durant.
Are you ****ing kidding me? Bogut is one of the main reasons why their team is this good defensively and couple that with the 2nd best player and the best backcourt defender being injured and missing games, that team would not make it past the 2nd round.

:roll: @ Harden, CP3, WB, and Curry making the finals with their 2nd and 3rd options being out. You do realize that they have to beat either or all of the Bulls, Cav's, and the Hawks to make the Finals, right? The Cav's and the Hawks would sweep them.

[K Xerxes]

Durant for sure. Probably Davis. Westbrook and Curry possibly.

LeBron is a complete player and a lot of the small things he contributes to his team are often overlooked. He covers a lot of his team mates deficiencies. Also, his team mates playing well is probably partly related to him being on the floor. He looks to have matured into a great leader.

But he's been shooting like shit and Durant, although not as complete, would more than make up for it with his scoring ability.

[KG215]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Bogut is one of the main reasons why their team is this good defensively and couple that with the 2nd best player and the best backcourt defender being injured and missing games, that team would not make it past the 2nd round.

:roll: @ Harden, CP3, WB, and Curry making the finals with their 2nd and 3rd options being out. You do realize that they have to beat either or all of the Bulls, Cav's, and the Hawks to make the Finals, right? The Cav's and the Hawks would sweep them.
Yeah, no, this is by far one of the stupidest things ever posted here. The Warriors, without Bogut and Thompson are better than the Cavs without Love and Irving. Put them in the East, then yes, the Warriors are still making the Finals.

Get the f**k outta here with your obvious trolling, LeBron d***riding bullshit.

[deja vu]

East is hot garbage.

Any prime top 10 GOAT would lead this Cavs team to the finals.

Even a few superstars like Durant, Harden, Davis, Curry.

Now if Cavs are in the West, they wouldn't make it past the second round.

[Droid101]

I think Mozgov has the best defensive stats on the Cavs. Trying to discount him is retarded.

Cavs are ****ing stacked even after the injuries.

[Droid101]

08 Kobe's supporting cast:

Pau Gasol 16.9/9.3/4.0/1.9
Lamar Odom 14.3/10.0/3.0/1.3
Derek Fisher 10.2/2.2/2.5/2.0 44% from 3
Vladimir Radmanovic 8.0/3.8/1.5 37% from 3
Sasha Vujacic 8.1/2.2/0.8 39% from 3

Lebron's supporting cast this year

Irving 18.9/3.3/3.5/1.1 47% from 3
JR Smith 12.7/3.9/1.2/1.4 40% from 3
Shumpert 10.3/5.0/1.2/1.2/0.9 36% from 3
Mozgov 8.8/7.4/1.8
Thompson 8.8/10.0/1.3

plus Kevin Love's help first 3 games of the Bucks series, Dellavedova going off on Bulls to seal the series

Kobe 08 first 3 rounds:

32/6/6 on 51% shooting, 22 FGA

Lebron's Playoff numbers so far

27/10/8 on 43% shooting, 24.3 FGA

Seems like 08 Kobe could lead this very team to the Finals because he had a similar supporting cast, only that he didn't have the 2nd best player in the Conference on his team and he beat a 50-win Denver, 54-win Jazz and a 56-win Spurs, all of them better than the teams Lebron has faced so far.

And give me one game from Lebron's Playoff run that has been as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB9gzjXTcI

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_wKwanldc
LeBronstans straight wrecked.

[COnDEMnED]

08 Kobe's supporting cast:

Pau Gasol 16.9/9.3/4.0/1.9
Lamar Odom 14.3/10.0/3.0/1.3
Derek Fisher 10.2/2.2/2.5/2.0 44% from 3
Vladimir Radmanovic 8.0/3.8/1.5 37% from 3
Sasha Vujacic 8.1/2.2/0.8 39% from 3

Lebron's supporting cast this year

Irving 18.9/3.3/3.5/1.1 47% from 3
JR Smith 12.7/3.9/1.2/1.4 40% from 3
Shumpert 10.3/5.0/1.2/1.2/0.9 36% from 3
Mozgov 8.8/7.4/1.8
Thompson 8.8/10.0/1.3

plus Kevin Love's help first 3 games of the Bucks series, Dellavedova going off on Bulls to seal the series

Kobe 08 first 3 rounds:

32/6/6 on 51% shooting, 22 FGA

Lebron's Playoff numbers so far

27/10/8 on 43% shooting, 24.3 FGA

Seems like 08 Kobe could lead this very team to the Finals because he had a similar supporting cast, only that he didn't have the 2nd best player in the Conference on his team and he beat a 50-win Denver, 54-win Jazz and a 56-win Spurs, all of them better than the teams Lebron has faced so far.

And give me one game from Lebron's Playoff run that has been as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB9gzjXTcI

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_wKwanldc
This post will be avoided like the plague. Get those blinders on.

[KG215]

Durant for sure. Probably Davis. Westbrook and Curry possibly.

LeBron is a complete player and a lot of the small things he contributes to his team are often overlooked. He covers a lot of his team mates deficiencies. Also, his team mates playing well is probably partly related to him being on the floor. He looks to have matured into a great leader.

But he's been shooting like shit and Durant, although not as complete, would more than make up for it with his scoring ability.
Yeah, pretty much what I wanted to say but I kept on rambling. It's only because Durant is still young enough and in the hear of his prime, but if healthy he'd be scoring a higher and much more efficient clip than LeBron has scored at in the playoffs this year. I don't know if it it'd completely makeup the difference in their passing/playmaking, but it'd make up some of it. I mean Durant has turned into a very solid playmaking forward anyway.

The Cavs are mostly blowing teams out and winning comfortably, now. I think they'd still be winning most of their games by a fairly comfortable margin if you replaced LeBron with Durant, but not to the same degree as they are with LeBron. Then I think there'd a be a drop-off and more of a struggle if you replaced LeBron with a ball dominant guard like Harden, Curry, CP3, or Westbrook. Mostly because I really do think the Cavs right now are better served having three of Kyrie (when healthy), J.R., Shumpert, and/or Dellevadova and LeBron at PF (something Durant can replicate but the others can't) to maximize floor spacing.

Durant would get about the same amount of attention as LeBron is currently getting on the offensive end. Durant wouldn't be making the "right" pass as often, but he'd have enough open guys and floor spacing that he'd likely make the "right" often enough for the Cavs to get through the East. This is of course assuming the Cavs role players were making their open 3s at the same clip they're currently making them playing with LeBron.

[Wally450]

2008 Paul Pierce at SF.

Irving
Smith
Pierce
Thompson
Mozgov

That team would beat the Hawks in 6.

[aj1987]

Yeah, no, this is by far one of the stupidest things ever posted here. The Warriors, without Bogut and Thompson are better than the Cavs without Love and Irving. Put them in the East, then yes, the Warriors are still making the Finals.

Get the f**k outta here with your obvious trolling, LeBron d***riding bullshit.
:roll: :roll:

**** off. Their 2 best defenders and 2nd best scorer out and they'll make the Finals? Yeah, sure. I should've know from all your whining in the GT's that you're a ****ing moron who knows nothing about basketball.

[KingMillions]

Hakeem could do it.

[Fire Colangelo]

2008 Paul Pierce at SF.

Irving
Smith
Pierce
Thompson
Mozgov

That team would beat the Hawks in 6.

The 08 Celtics with Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG/Perkins couldn't even beat the 37 win Hawks in 6. But sure, Pierce with this Cavs team would beat the 60 win Hawks in 6 :roll: :roll:

Not to mention Irving is averaging 10/3/6 so far.

LeBron is having a subpar shooting postseason for his standard, but his playmaking has been magnificant thusfar. The reason JR Smith, Delledova, Shumpert, etc are stepping up? It's because LeBron are getting them open 3s. Not everything is about PPG and FG%, it's about LeBron having superior vision and playmaking skills than Pierce/Kobe. Thus getting his team higher percentage shots.

[Cleverness]

If you're talking about all-time, then there are a ton of players who could

But if you are talking about only this season, and assuming KLove is out after the 1st round, then... probably nobody. Anthony Davis or James Harden are the two closest players this year who could, imo

[KG215]

:roll: :roll:

**** off. Their 2 best defenders and 2nd best scorer out and they'll make the Finals? Yeah, sure. I should've know from all your whining in the GT's that you're a ****ing moron who knows nothing about basketball.
All I'm arguing is your dumbassery saying the Warriors, without Bogut and Thompson, would get swept by the Hawks and Cavs and/or wouldn't make it past the 2nd round in the East. The Warriors are the deepest team in the league. Their offense would still be plenty deadly enough to navigate their way past some really, really inept offensive teams in the East and make at least the ECF.

No idea why I'm arguing with you. You're a proven and known LeBron fanboy completely devoid of logic and actual basketball knowledge.

[3ball]

08 Kobe's supporting cast:

Pau Gasol 16.9/9.3/4.0/1.9
Lamar Odom 14.3/10.0/3.0/1.3
Derek Fisher 10.2/2.2/2.5/2.0 44% from 3
Vladimir Radmanovic 8.0/3.8/1.5 37% from 3
Sasha Vujacic 8.1/2.2/0.8 39% from 3

Lebron's supporting cast this year

Irving 18.9/3.3/3.5/1.1 47% from 3
JR Smith 12.7/3.9/1.2/1.4 40% from 3
Shumpert 10.3/5.0/1.2/1.2/0.9 36% from 3
Mozgov 8.8/7.4/1.8
Thompson 8.8/10.0/1.3

plus Kevin Love's help first 3 games of the Bucks series, Dellavedova going off on Bulls to seal the series

Kobe 08 first 3 rounds:

32/6/6 on 51% shooting, 22 FGA

Lebron's Playoff numbers so far

27/10/8 on 43% shooting, 24.3 FGA

Seems like 08 Kobe could lead this very team to the Finals because he had a similar supporting cast, only that he didn't have the 2nd best player in the Conference on his team and he beat a 50-win Denver, 54-win Jazz and a 56-win Spurs, all of them better than the teams Lebron has faced so far.

And give me one game from Lebron's Playoff run that has been as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB9gzjXTcI

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_wKwanldc


post saved.. :cheers:

people have no idea how good Lebron's supporting casts have always been.

[aj1987]

All I'm arguing is your dumbassery saying the Warriors, without Bogut and Thompson, would get swept by the Hawks and Cavs and/or wouldn't make it past the 2nd round in the East. The Warriors are the deepest team in the league. Their offense would still be plenty deadly enough to navigate their way past some really, really inept offensive teams in the East and make at least the ECF.

No idea why I'm arguing with you. You're a proven and known LeBron fanboy completely devoid of logic and actual basketball knowledge.
Says the guy who knows basically nothing about basketball. I'm a LeBron "fanboy"? Sure, I'm a fan of the player. He helped my team win 2 rings. Something which your team will probably never accomplish. :oldlol:

They're losing an elite shooter, floor spacer, a 20 PPG scorer, and an ELITE (their best perimeter) defender, and their defensive anchor in Klay and Bogut. Two of the best players on the team no named Curry.

Once again, to be EXTREMELY clear, they're losing their #2 and #3, two ELITE defenders, a very good rebounder, and a 20 PPG scorer. You still think that they'd make the Finals? A starting lineup of Curry, Green, Barnes, Ezeli, and Iggy. With Barbosa and Livingston the only two good players off the bench. Yeah, you have lost the right to talk about people having basketball knowledge and logic.

[keep-itreal]

you make it sound like going to the finals in the East is a hard thing to do

[aj1987]

you make it sound like going to the finals in the East is a hard thing to do
Without your #2 and #3, it is. Good luck beating the Hawks and the Cav's.

Jesus. How ****ing hard is that to understand?

[Mr Feeny]

you make it sound like going to the finals in the East is a hard thing to do

When your main guys are Knicks rejects, Mosgov, and Delly.....yes it IS a hard thing to do.

[aj1987]

When your main guys are Knicks rejects, Mosgov, and Delly.....yes it IS a hard thing to do.
:oldlol:

It's like people don't remember saying that JR was a cancer last season, that Shump was basically done, etc.. Lets also not forget that LeBron is missing Andy V.. LeBron turned them into VERY good players. Dude is flat out carrying this team. Anyone who says that KD could do it is a ****ing moron. KD is a terrific shooter (would've rivaled Curry this season), but he's not even close to being the playmaker that LeBron is. One of the main reasons why they're winning without Kyrie, Love, and an injured Shump. He's picking teams apart with his versatility.

Oh, and before you ignore the injuries and calling the Cav's stacked AF, look at their bench. :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

:oldlol:

It's like people don't remember saying that JR was a cancer last season, that Shump was basically done, etc.. Lets also not forget that LeBron is missing Andy V.. LeBron turned them into VERY good players. Dude is flat out carrying this team. Anyone who says that KD could do it is a ****ing moron. KD is a terrific shooter (would've rivaled Curry this season), but he's not even close to being the playmaker that LeBron is. One of the main reasons why they're winning without Kyrie, Love, and an injured Shump. He's picking teams apart with his versatility.

Oh, and before you ignore the injuries and calling the Cav's stacked AF, look at their bench. :oldlol:

Shump was coming back from an ACL injury and he's still getting better, JR was in a bad situation, Mozgov was already a solid rim protector in Denver, TT was putting up 12/8 last season, Irving is a star and the 2nd best player in the Eastern Conference.

No player wins on their own, every player in NBA history has needed a solid team around him to win, including Lebron James. People just downplay the effort of his teammates to make him look better, when he hasn't been that great overall.

Lebron's playmaking has been rather inconsistent in these Playoffs with all the turnovers, I am watching these games and I don't see him "carrying" scrubs, I see him playing great ball and his teammates have been complementing his style well.

Y'all need to quit acting like this is 1994 Hakeem situation, where dude absolutely dominated teams en route to a championship, Lebron's shot has been off, he's averaging 8 assists to 4.6 turnovers...hardly ground-breaking. 27 points a game on 24 shots isn't great either.

And don't get me started on the competition..

40-42 Boston squad, where Evan Turner is a starter and playing 30 mins a game :oldlol:
50-32 Bulls squad with only 1 game from Pau Gasol before he gets injured, bad knees Rose bricking one shot after another, Noah playing average all year
a 60-win Hawks squad that could barely beat a Wizards team with an injured Wall...please

Putting up average stats against inferior competition is not worthy of the praise he's been getting from his stans.

[aj1987]

Shump was coming back from an ACL injury and he's still getting better, JR was in a bad situation, Mozgov was already a solid rim protector in Denver, TT was putting up 12/8 last season, Irving is a star and the 2nd best player in the Eastern Conference.

No player wins on their own, every player in NBA history has needed a solid team around him to win, including Lebron James. People just downplay the effort of his teammates to make him look better, when he hasn't been that great overall.

Lebron's playmaking has been rather inconsistent in these Playoffs with all the turnovers, I am watching these games and I don't see him "carrying" scrubs, I see him playing great ball and his teammates have been complementing his style well.
Can you point out where I called ANY of LeBron's teammates scrubs? Reaching, kid.

Shump has been in the league for what, 6 years? This is probably his best season ever. He's in a role which suits him PERFECTLY.

Thompson sure did average more points and rebounds last season. You failed to factor in the FACT that he's playing fewer minutes and that he's coming off the bench. He started in 82 games last season. This season? 15. Dude still put up 9/8 and increased his FG% by almost 8 points.

He has had his turnovers, sure. If you ACTUALLY watched the games, he has been finding the open man. The double teams and triple teams he commands opens up his teammates. Dude's averaging a career high in assists. Most of his TOV's come from careless handles and teammates not being able to handle passes (staying in the spot where he wants them to be as well). He does have 1-2 TOV's a game which are retarded AF. Not gonna dispute that.


Y'all need to quit acting like this is 1994 Hakeem situation, where dude absolutely dominated teams en route to a championship, Lebron's shot has been off, he's averaging 8 assists to 4.6 turnovers...hardly ground-breaking. 27 points a game on 24 shots isn't great either.
I didn't say it was. It's doesn't take much time to read a tiny post, dude. You're basically making shit up and assuming that I said stuff, which I clearly didn't. I'm saying that no other player in this season's NBA is carrying his team to Finals in the East (including WC teams, if they're put in the EC), missing his #1 and #2 options.


Putting up average stats against inferior competition is not worthy of the praise he's been getting from his stans.
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Rich, coming from a Kobe turd.

[G0ATbe]

Lebald wouldn't even need to be replaced, just put Marion at SF and they still cruise to the finals.

[gts]

I love how Lebron stans keep trotting out the Cavs injuries but completely ignore the Hawks are missing or have injuries key players too

The Hawks the Cavs are playing today are not the same Hawks who were killing it back in February

[Magic 32]

What other first option superstar could have gotten away with a shooting and turnover display like Lebron vs the Bulls and still win?

East gonna east.

[aj1987]

What other first option superstar could have gotten away with a shooting and turnover display like Lebron vs the Bulls and still win?

East gonna east.
He's be called Kobe (did it against the Celtics though) and he'd win a Game 7 of the NBA Finals. With worse shooting, BTW. MUCH worse.

[Magic 32]

He's be called Kobe (did it against the Celtics though) and he'd win a Game 7 of the NBA Finals. With worse shooting, BTW. MUCH worse.

One game.

[iamgine]

Hakeem

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[sd3035]

I could probably lead this stacked team out of the d league east