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pauk
05-23-2015, 12:25 PM
Since you guys are keen on that "X of X in Finals" logic, this is for you.... lets see if you really honestly are firm believers of that basketball logic by puting you on the spot with this test...

So lets go, which is better:

Kobe #1 - 5 of 7 in Finals - His career as it is, meaning those other 12 seasons he wasnt good enough to carry whatever team he had to the Finals, in some not even good enough to take them to the playoffs.

Kobe #2 - 5 of 19 in Finals - Meaning here he managed to carry the same exact teams all the way to the Finals in all of his 19 seasons, except for it obviously meaning he was a more impactful/better player than above here he also piled up more playoff/finals stats totals & great memories/performances on the big stage for his legacy.

Thats unfortunately the only change going to 5/19 makes for Kobe's current legacy.... it GIVES, rather than TAKES AWAY....

SO, WHICH IS BETTER? #1 or #2?

GO!

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tpols
05-23-2015, 12:29 PM
So that means player A has lower impactfullness overall, but is less prone to choking when he actually gets an opportunity with his slightly lower ability. And player B is more impactful overall, but in the many opportunities he gets because of his increased ability, he just chokes/squanders them away over and over and over.


Yea... I'd rather be the guy that maxed his potential and made the most out of what he was given than be the all time worse choker of all time.

SugarHill
05-23-2015, 12:30 PM
So that means player A has lower impactfullness overall, but is less prone to choking when he actually gets an opportunity with his slightly lower ability. And player B is more impactful overall, but in the many opportunities he gets, he just chokes them away over and over and over.


Yea... I'd rather be the guy that maxed his potential and made the most out of what he was given than be the all time worse choker of all time.
You're essentially saying losing earlier means you're less of a choker and somehow look better.

imnew09
05-23-2015, 12:32 PM
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edrick
05-23-2015, 12:32 PM
Haters believe that it's better to miss the Finals than to get there and lose. Arguing with people that think that way, is pointless. It's comparable to arguing with a 5 year old. These fools honestly believe that losing earlier has less to do with choking, than losing in the Finals does.

Magic 32
05-23-2015, 12:34 PM
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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-23-2015, 12:36 PM
If Kobe #2 includes having the biggest meltdown in professional sports, LeBron circa 2011 Finals, then I would have to roll with #1, the better career between the two.

Magic 32
05-23-2015, 12:36 PM
Haters believe that it's better to miss the Finals than to get there and lose.

It's not better.

It just exposes your conference and why you are always successful up until the finals.

In that way it hurt everything else you have done....and is therefore worse.

tpols
05-23-2015, 12:42 PM
You're essentially saying losing earlier means you're less of a choker and somehow look better.

If you lost before the Finals, you probably didnt have enough help and/or had a tough playoff road. If youre expected to win and continously get that far, you should win.

I mean if you make the finals 19 years in a row... you've been on some amazing teams. And to lose 15 times? Imagine if someone led their team their for a decade straight, had 50/50 maybe 45/55 odds of winning and LOST for the whole damn decade?

Could you picture competitors like MJ or Bird or Magic allowing another team or couple teams to continuously stomp them out on the grand stage for decades ?

G0ATbe
05-23-2015, 12:43 PM
GODbe forever living rent free.:bowdown: :applause:

How long are LeBald fans gonna try proving "2/6 >>> 5/7"? You're not fooling anyone:lol

Ne 1
05-23-2015, 12:45 PM
Depends on the conference.


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Magic 32
05-23-2015, 12:47 PM
Depends on the conference.


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pauk
05-23-2015, 12:49 PM
So that means player A has lower impactfullness overall but is less prone to choking when he actually gets an opportunity with his slightly lower ability.

If clone #1 always fails earlier with the same equipment means he chokes at a higher / more frequent rate than clone #2... and being in the playoffs IS an opportunity, opportunity/road to get you to the Finals trying to win the championship....



Yea... I'd rather be the guy that maxed his potential and made the most out of what he was given than be the all time worse choker of all time.

So you pick #2?

Lensanity
05-23-2015, 12:49 PM
Whats better, 2/7 or 6/24?

pauk
05-23-2015, 12:50 PM
Come on Kobe fans.... you can do it... #1 or #2....

This has nothing to do with Kobe or Lebron...... this is about your "X of X in Finals" logic, it ignores the whole foundations of basketball ration, logic, reason hence it disrespects any player & team in NBA history.... now that i cant accept....

Magic 32
05-23-2015, 12:52 PM
Whats better, 2/7 or 6/24?

Clearly 6/24.

Because 6/24 tried.


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sd3035
05-23-2015, 12:53 PM
5-7

The other one would mean he's a choker

ISHGoat
05-23-2015, 12:55 PM
these kobe fans are delusional, no point arguing with them

pauk
05-23-2015, 12:56 PM
5-7

The other one would mean he's a choker

Oh... so choking always earlier means you are not a choker or at least less likely to choke? :oldlol:

imnew09
05-23-2015, 12:58 PM
Kobe #2 - 5 of 19 in Finals


Pauk loves coming up with hypothetical questions because that's the only way Lebron is 5/5 in his world



2/5 bruh

BigBoss
05-23-2015, 01:03 PM
The player who doesn't check himself out of a Finals game due to "cramps".

24-Inch_Chrome
05-23-2015, 01:06 PM
5/19. Winning a championship > making the finals > not making the finals. Going out earlier is never a good thing.

pauk
05-23-2015, 01:07 PM
Come on guys... dont you see what im doing here?

Stop that "X of X in Finals" gimmick.... while you are doing this due to Lebron when compared to Kobe i understand, that you hate Lebron, i understand, i dont care....... but at the same time the logic also clouds your entire basketball judgement, it sacrilages any player & team in NBA history, now that however is unacceptable... it dishonors even Kobe (would you really rank him under a lesser player due to lesser Finals win %).... dont you see? Its not good....

Spurs5Rings2014
05-23-2015, 01:07 PM
Oh... so choking always earlier means you are not a choker or at least less likely to choke? :oldlol:

:oldlol:

Obviously, how else is Chris Paul the GOAT choker when he's never even played in the finals? For all we know, he's more clutch than Jordan once he gets there. :lol He just hasn't had a good enough team for him to win a chip because as we all know, if you can make the finals, you have a good enough team to win. If not, your team isn't good enough, so CPTREE has never choked a day in his life.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

COnDEMnED
05-23-2015, 01:13 PM
Come on guys... dont you see what im doing here?

Stop that "X of X in Finals" gimmick.... while you are doing this due to Lebron when compared to Kobe i understand, that you hate Lebron, i understand, i dont care....... but at the same time the logic also clouds your entire basketball judgement, it sacrilages any player & team in NBA history, now that however is unacceptable... it dishonors even Kobe (would you really rank him under a lesser player due to lesser Finals win %).... dont you see? Its not good....Were your parents ever exposed to large amounts of radiation over long periods of time?

Killbot
05-23-2015, 01:15 PM
GOATbe carrying teams to 19 straight consecutive finals? How great is our Be the Based God. :bowdown:

pauk
05-23-2015, 01:16 PM
Pauk loves coming up with hypothetical questions because that's the only way Lebron is 5/5 in his world



2/5 bruh

Lets use Lebron, do you maybe think Lebron being 2/2 is better than 2/5?

Meaning what happened in 07' Finals, 11' Finals & 14' Finals would instead happen in 07' 1st round, 11' 1st round, 14' 1st round or even miss the playoffs those 3 years (to miss the playoffs would also mean he probably wouldnt have a recorded all 4 MVPs hence he wouldnt be in top 10 all-time list)......... and that really is somehow better for his career?

Are you ***ing listening to yourself? :oldlol:

ISHGoat
05-23-2015, 01:17 PM
:oldlol:

Obviously, how else is Chris Paul the GOAT choker when he's never even played in the finals? For all we know, he's more clutch than Jordan once he gets there. :lol He just hasn't had a good enough team for him to win a chip because as we all know, if you can make the finals, you have a good enough team to win. If not, your team isn't good enough, so CPTREE has never choked a day in his life.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

:roll:

dam

kobe stans wont respond to this

Alamо
05-23-2015, 01:18 PM
GOATbe carrying teams to 19 straight consecutive finals? How great is our Be the Based God. :bowdown:



Only Kobe could pull off such a feat in the stacked west :bowdown:



But still


Duncan > Lebron > Kobe

pauk
05-23-2015, 01:20 PM
Were your parents ever exposed to large amounts of radiation over long periods of time?

Considering the Kobe fans logic here, it would seem someone sure has been...

Killbot
05-23-2015, 01:21 PM
Only Kobe could pull off such a feat in the stacked west :bowdown:



But still


Duncan > Lebron > Kobe

Duncan can get things done, so I agree. :applause:

gts
05-23-2015, 01:22 PM
obviously number one

number two suggests the player played in a easy ass conference (basically D league competition) but once he made the finals and met up against a real team he was outclassed

Alamо
05-23-2015, 01:23 PM
Still, making the finals 7 times in the west is just ridiculous. You have to appreciate that.

pauk
05-23-2015, 01:24 PM
Still, making the finals 7 times in the west is just ridiculous. You have to appreciate that.


obviously number one

number two suggests the player played in a easy ass conference but once he made the finals and met up against a real team he was outclassed

No, its not that of a hypothetical, the only difference is 19 Finals vs 7 Finals.... they faced the same teams, everything was identical, two clones...... except one went to 19 Finals... and one to 7....

ImKobe
05-23-2015, 01:24 PM
losing 14 times in the Finals would give haters/critics a lot of ammo to use against him.

I'd rather he won 5 out of 7 than watch my teams lose 14 out of 19 times in the Finals, do you think real fans are happy when their teams lose in the Finals? I'd rather not make the Playoffs at all if I get to watch another team celebrate.

If he made the Finals every year, he would be even more hated, and if he still won in the same years, that means he lost 3 straight entering the league and then 6 more Finals in a row before winning 2 and then 5 straight losses after that.

West made a lot of NBA Finals, no one here is crediting him for just making it there.

gts
05-23-2015, 01:26 PM
buh buh buh you're not playing the game the way i wanted you to... :cry:

Sorry, not playing into your insecurities today Pauk, find another sucker...

btw, hows that flop tape coming? still excited to see it

Quickening
05-23-2015, 01:26 PM
ISH logic... better to finish last in a race than second, because finishing second means you must have had the chance to win and you choked.

I guess we can tell what type of atheletes kobe fans were in high school. I am not going to play footy because I might lose, how alpha am i.

Lensanity
05-23-2015, 01:28 PM
Still, making the finals 7 times in the west is just ridiculous. You have to appreciate that.
The West wasnt as strong then. Pull your head out of your ass you worthless human being.

ImKobe
05-23-2015, 01:29 PM
ISH logic... better to finish last in a race than second, because finishing second means you must have had the chance to win and you choked.

I guess we can tell what type of atheletes kobe fans were in high school. I am not going to play footy because I might lose, how alpha am i.

Missing the Playoffs = didn't have a team worthy to contend with
lose Finals = team was good enough to make it there, no excuses when lose, choker
win Finals = FMVP gets 100% credit and HE won the ring, doesn't matter how good the 2nd option was, he doesn't count

this is ISH.

Magic 32
05-23-2015, 01:30 PM
Were your parents ever exposed to large amounts of radiation over long periods of time?

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Alamо
05-23-2015, 01:30 PM
No, its not that of a hypothetical, the only difference is 19 Finals vs 7 Finals.... they faced the same teams, everything was identical, two clones...... except one went to 19 Finals... and one to 7....


Hypothetical questions are dumb though. Like, he actually made the finals 7 times, and won 5 times. In real life. No what ifs. If he made the finals 19 times, he would have a lot more than 5 championships if you want to talk hypothetically. The question isn't realistic at all.



But just to answer your dumb question


5/19 > 5/7 >>>>>> 2/6 > 2/5

Alamо
05-23-2015, 01:32 PM
The West wasnt as strong then. Pull your head out of your ass you worthless human being.


Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

34-24 Footwork
05-23-2015, 01:32 PM
If and when you think of the term "all star" and Kyle Korver's name is mentioned, then you probably play in a sh1t conference.

gts
05-23-2015, 01:37 PM
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.nope it doesn't but if you read Lensanity's posts you can see drinking it has a detrimental effect

pauk
05-23-2015, 01:40 PM
losing 14 times in the Finals would give haters/critics a lot of ammo to use against him.

More than losing earlier or missing the playoffs? I think not, you seem to forget the ridicilous ammo haters/critics got when that happened.... the last one obviously the sweep vs Mavs early in the playoffs, when they were the defending champs, thats not disappointing?.... or later how about almost missing the playoffs with Dwight, Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Nash (and what not) at his side and getting swept immediately? Oh he did get hate/criticism my man..... yes he did....



I'd rather he won 5 out of 7 than watch my teams lose 14 out of 19 times in the Finals, do you think real fans are happy when their teams lose in the Finals?

Are those real fans more happy when their team loses early or miss the playoffs? What about the players/team itself?


I'd rather not make the Playoffs at all if I get to watch another team celebrate.

That is perhaps better for individually you as a viewer.... but not for a players career or WILL, thats his chance at trying to bring home a championship.... you really think Kobe would think like that? With all that heart, determination of his? He would rather miss the playoffs?



If he made the Finals every year, he would be even more hated, and if he still won in the same years, that means he lost 3 straight entering the league and then 6 more Finals in a row before winning 2 and then 5 straight losses after that.

Is that really better than missing the playoffs 9 straight entering the league before winning 2 and then 5 straight playoff misses again?


West made a lot of NBA Finals, no one here is crediting him for just making it there.

I am, everybody is (except for you/the "X of X in Finals" warriors)... thats the point you dont understand! Look, West is known as one of the / if not the best Playoffs / Finals performers in NBA history, that honor would not exist to that magnitude nor would those stats nor would those games if he didnt went to those Finals or missed the Playoffs......

Do you know that West won a FINALS MVP in a Finals he LOSED? How would he get that without going to that Finals?

West without the rest of his 8 Finals means 1 RING.

West with his career as it is means 1 FMVP and 1 RING + the respect as a Playoffs/Finals performer he has......

Understand now maybe?

ImKobe
05-23-2015, 01:43 PM
The West wasnt as strong then. Pull your head out of your ass you worthless human being.

lol?

00 - Kings, Suns, Blazers
01 - Blazers, Kings, Spurs
02 - Blazers, Spurs, Kings
04 - Rockets, Spurs, Wolves
08 - Nuggets, Jazz, Spurs
09 - Jazz, Rockets, Nuggets
10 - OKC, Jazz, Suns

Kings had prime C-Webb, Peja, Bibby, Divac, Turk, Christie, Jackson
Suns had Penny, Cliff Robinson, Kidd, Marion, Longley
Blazers had Sheed, Sabonis, Pippen, Damon Stoudamire, Wells, Derek Anderson
Spurs had the twin towers + good role players, later Parker, Manu, Horry, Turk, Bowen
Rockets had Francis, Mobley, Ming
Wolves had KG, Sprewell, Szczerbiak, Cassell

those are just the teams from 00-04

08-10 you had Nuggets with AI, Melo, JR and a bunch of guys in 08, you had the Boozer-Dwill Jazz that were really good, you had the defending champ Spurs in 08, young OKC team was no joke and the Suns played really well in 2010 and it took Kobe to play out of his fricken mind (have the best Playoff series of his career) just to barely win in 6 games.

Kobe Shaq swept 3 50+ win teams in a row en route to the Finals in 01 and without HCA in the WCF, meaning 4 straight road games vs Kings & Spurs.

West had the best teams in the league for the most part, East sucked, except for the Shaq-Wade teams and the Pistons some years up until the Celtics were formed.

sd3035
05-23-2015, 01:52 PM
Oh... so choking always earlier means you are not a choker or at least less likely to choke? :oldlol:

making it to the finals means your team was good enough but you choked

not making it could mean your team sucks

ImKobe
05-23-2015, 01:57 PM
More than losing earlier or missing the playoffs? I think not, you seem to forget the ridicilous ammo haters/critics got when that happened.... the last one obviously the sweep vs Mavs early in the playoffs, when they were the defending champs, thats not disappointing?.... or later how about almost missing the playoffs with Dwight, Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Nash (and what not) at his side and getting swept immediately? Oh he did get hate/criticism my man..... yes he did....



Are those real fans more happy when their team loses early or miss the playoffs? What about the players/team itself?



That is perhaps better for individually you as a viewer.... but not for a players career or WILL, thats his chance at trying to bring home a championship.... you really think Kobe would think like that? With all that heart, determination of his? He would rather miss the playoffs?



Is that really better than missing the playoffs 9 straight entering the league before winning 2 and then 5 straight playoff misses again?



I am, everybody is (except for you/the "X of X in Finals" warriors)... thats the point you dont understand! Look, West is known as one of the / if not the best Playoffs / Finals performers in NBA history, that honor would not exist to that magnitude nor would those stats nor would those games if he didnt went to those Finals or missed the Playoffs......

Do you know that West won a FINALS MVP in a Finals he LOSED? How would he get that without going to that Finals?

West without the rest of his 8 Finals means 1 RING.

West with his career as it is means 1 FMVP and 1 RING + the respect as a Playoffs/Finals performer he has......

Understand now maybe?


Well, I don't really care about how many Finals a person loses, I look at the total.

Kobe won 5 Finals series, in 2 he won the FMVP, in 2 with Shaq he put up #1 option numbers and in the 2000 Finals he played injured, but still had an impact with a clutch win on the road, same thing goes for 2004 with the game-tying shot and OT win.

Lebron has won 2 with 2 FMVPs

Lebron has played 11+ years and achieved as much as Kobe did post-Shaq, but you add on Kobe's efforts from 00-04 and he's the more accomplished player, sorry bud.

I<3NBA
05-23-2015, 02:04 PM
In the world of Lebron haters, the Knicks did better than the Atlanta Hawks. At least the Knicks never got the chance to choke.

In the real world however, only fools would choose to be eliminated earlier than go further.

What's really funny is that these kobetards don't even realize that if this question was posed to their idol, their idol would choose to always making the finals than not making it.

He'd probably say something like "first base or put the head in? Pfft. Only betas choose first base as better than head in."

COnDEMnED
05-23-2015, 02:09 PM
Considering the Kobe fans logic here, it would seem someone sure has been...
What type of birth defects do you have? Down Syndrome? Autism? Prader-Willi Syndrome? Fragile X Syndrome?.......Homosexuality?

MavsSuperFan
05-23-2015, 02:16 PM
Some of this really depends on the quality of the conference.

Lebron would not make it to nearly as many finals if he played in the west

Akrazotile
05-23-2015, 02:26 PM
Well 2/7 was a media gift. In reality Kobe was never the MVP of a finals. He was usually a liability. If the media didnt pity Kobe and just hand him MVP and FMVP that the whole world watched other player's earn, he'd be 0/19 and 0/7 with the awards.

So, by default the answer is 6/24. At least he earned that 25.0 FG% all on his own.

Akrazotile
05-23-2015, 02:29 PM
Some of this really depends on the quality of the conference.

Lebron would not make it to nearly as many finals if he played in the west


All the stars in the west have better supporting casts.

If you took one player off the Clippers, Blazers, Grizzlies, Warriors etc and replaced him with Lebron????

:oldlol:

Hed be like 9/9.

Ne 1
05-23-2015, 02:53 PM
Some of this really depends on the quality of the conference.

Lebron would not make it to nearly as many finals if he played in the west
Exactly. The East has been the JV league compared to the West.

red1
05-23-2015, 02:53 PM
Since you guys are keen on that "X of X in Finals" logic, this is for you.... lets see if you really honestly are firm believers of that basketball logic by puting you on the spot with this test...

So lets go, which is better:

Kobe #1 - 5 of 7 in Finals - His career as it is, meaning those other 12 seasons he wasnt good enough to carry whatever team he had to the Finals, in some not even good enough to take them to the playoffs.

Kobe #2 - 5 of 19 in Finals - Meaning here he managed to carry the same exact teams all the way to the Finals in all of his 19 seasons, except for it obviously meaning he was a more impactful/better player than above here he also piled up more playoff/finals stats totals & great memories/performances on the big stage for his legacy.

Thats unfortunately the only change going to 5/19 makes for Kobe's current legacy.... it GIVES, rather than TAKES AWAY....

SO, WHICH IS BETTER? #1 or #2?

GO!
both kobes are shit

Taller than CP3
05-23-2015, 05:25 PM
Lebron enjoys colluding in a weaker conference.

It wouldn't surprise me if he went 2/10 in his career.

The guy is a career loser. But you LeBald stans will argue how he's better than MJ because he went to the Finals 10 times.

Kvnzhangyay
05-23-2015, 05:27 PM
#2 IF AND ONLY if the level of play is equal to those of #1s

A finals loss should never be penalized if they play at a high level of play that is expected of them. Making the finals and losing only counts against them if they play far below their standards (or any round for that matter)

Nash
05-23-2015, 05:28 PM
what is better, leading teams to 5 straight finals and losing or 3 sidekick rings?

discuss

Taller than CP3
05-23-2015, 05:30 PM
#2 IF AND ONLY if the level of play is equal to those of #1s

A finals loss should never be penalized if they play at a high level of play that is expected of them. Making the finals and losing only counts against them if they play far below their standards (or any round for that matter)

Nope. All that matters are the numbers.

Numbers don't lie.

History will only remember the numbers, not the competition.

2/5 soon to be 2/6

Lebron is a loser. To be considered a winner, you need to be at least 50% in your Wins/Losses in Finals Appearances. 2/5 is totally unacceptable.

coin24
05-23-2015, 05:35 PM
Soon to be 2/6. Pauk already on damage control. Eat shit fgt:cheers:

coin24
05-23-2015, 05:36 PM
what is better, leading teams to 5 straight finals and losing or 3 sidekick rings?

discuss


Only winning 2 of them as a sidekick:lol

Stop agreeing with yourself pauk

Mr Feeny
05-23-2015, 05:39 PM
Only winning 2 of them as a sidekick:lol

Stop agreeing with yourself pauk

You didn't reply to pauk.

Kvnzhangyay
05-23-2015, 05:39 PM
Nope. All that matters are the numbers.

Numbers don't lie.

History will only remember the numbers, not the competition.

2/5 soon to be 2/6

Lebron is a loser. To be considered a winner, you need to be at least 50% in your Wins/Losses in Finals Appearances. 2/5 is totally unacceptable.

Uh if you want to talk about history, you realize Lebron, by the average person (who make up 99% of fans), will not be known as a loser right?

Also, what you said is completely subjective

coin24
05-23-2015, 05:40 PM
You didn't reply to pauk.


Nash is pauk:facepalm

Mr Feeny
05-23-2015, 05:43 PM
Nash is pauk:facepalm

Is he really? Wow. It makes me wonder why people bother using several accounts if both personas share the same view point. Trolls back in the day used to create several accounts and take up different positions and start to sabotage forums.
This new thing...is a little quirky. And seems like a waste of time tbh?

Taller than CP3
05-23-2015, 05:44 PM
Uh if you want to talk about history, you realize Lebron, by the average person (who make up 99% of fans), will not be known as a loser right?

Not known as a loser? He's already known as a loser. 2/5 doesn't look good, no matter which way you twist it. Just imagine how much worse 2/5 is going to look 20 years from now. All you're doing is making up excuses for your false idol. In your previous post, you tried mentioning his competition. No one gives a shit. The only thing history will care about is 2 out of 5. Time for you to accept the facts and deal with it.

Kvnzhangyay
05-23-2015, 05:48 PM
Not known as a loser? He's already known as a loser. 2/5 doesn't look good, no matter which way you twist it. Just imagine how much worse 2/5 is going to look 20 years from now. All you're doing is making up excuses for your false idol. In your previous post, you tried mentioning his competition. No one gives a shit. The only thing history will care about is 2 out of 5. Time for you to accept the facts and deal with it.

Tell that to 99% of fans because they disagree with you :confusedshrug:

I'm not trying to twist things, its just your feeling threatened because of your tendency for belief perseverance. It's okay though, I understand its hard to change your mental fixation.

I also realize you will attempt to argue this^, but everything you say will be a result of your own confirmation bias, so its null.

ISHGoat
05-23-2015, 05:57 PM
Tell that to 99% of fans because they disagree with you :confusedshrug:

I'm not trying to twist things, its just your feeling threatened because of your tendency for belief perseverance. It's okay though, I understand its hard to change your mental fixation.

I also realize you will attempt to argue this^, but everything you say will be a result of your own confirmation bias, so its null.

Dayum china ***** going in on a Kobe fukboi

Ne 1
05-23-2015, 06:13 PM
what is better, leading teams to 5 straight finals and losing or 3 sidekick rings?

discuss

Are you seriously asking if losing is better than winning? :facepalm

Also some disposable sidekick alright...
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DFish24
05-23-2015, 06:39 PM
Bran stans already melting down and he's not even 2/6 yet.:roll:

daily
05-23-2015, 08:42 PM
Is he really? Wow. It makes me wonder why people bother using several accounts if both personas share the same view point. Trolls back in the day used to create several accounts and take up different positions and start to sabotage forums.
This new thing...is a little quirky. And seems like a waste of time tbh?Like you and your ArbitraryWater account right

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-23-2015, 08:46 PM
Like you and your ArbitraryWater account right
Hold up... Arb is actually Mr Feeny? :roll:

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coin24
05-23-2015, 09:08 PM
Hold up... Arb is actually Mr Feeny? :roll:

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He has like 10 alts. They're his virginity protectors

Mr Feeny
05-24-2015, 12:32 AM
Hold up... Arb is actually Mr Feeny? :roll:

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For the last time. Magic32 started this rumour after we both ganged up on him in a Lebron bashing thread. Anyone is welcome to run an I. P. Check. Water is a German and I am ANYTHING but. My grandfather fought the Germans in WW2. A.W. and I have had several run ins. I don't have an alt nor do I feel the need to have alts. I actually have a life. For those who find the need to run multiple accounts and don't consider it a waste of time (namely, magic32, coin24, hoopscity, ImKobe, and cold soul), that's great
Don't lump the rest of us in that category and accuse people of having alts. We actually have lives.

Magic 32
05-24-2015, 12:36 AM
Water is a German and I am ANYTHING but. My grandfather fought the Germans in WW2. A.W. and I have had several run ins.

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Mr Feeny
05-24-2015, 12:39 AM
Palestine taking it up the backside from the Isreali's eh?:lol