Picks 5-10 in the draft

[el gringos]

Everyone seems so sure that the top 4 are locked in. So that's not worth talking about. But picks 5-10 sure are. Who do you rank in those spots? Which players and teams match best?


Porzingis
WCS
Winslow
Mario
Booker
Johnson
Turner



Who else belongs in the discussion? What teams could trade in or out?

[outbreak]

Hezonja porzingis winslow cauley stein are the candidates for the 5th i imagine

[noob cake]

Hezonja, Stanley Johnson, Trey Lyles

Booker is mos likely not a top 10 pick.

[The JKidd Kid]

Magic- Porzingis
Kings- WCS
Nuggets- Winslow
Detroit- Hezonja
Charlotte- johnson
Heat- Turner

[Taller than CP3]

Are they any good? Can the Cavs get them?

[el gringos]

Are they any good? Can the Cavs get them?
They can't trade love at the draft can they?

[el gringos]

Hezonja porzingis winslow cauley stein are the candidates for the 5th i imagine
I think you're right, and that it's such a difficult group to compare. IMO 2 of the safest picks in the draft are WCS and Winslow, because they fit almost anywhere and immediately become a very good role player. Then you have porzingis and Mario who are tough to judge with coming from a different background but seeming to have more superstar potential.


I always am interested in the draft, this years draft seems more interesting than most IMO. I really like 8 or 10 players at the top and some others down the way

[outbreak]

I think you're right, and that it's such a difficult group to compare. IMO 2 of the safest picks in the draft are WCS and Winslow, because they fit almost anywhere and immediately become a very good role player. Then you have porzingis and Mario who are tough to judge with coming from a different background but seeming to have more superstar potential.


I always am interested in the draft, this years draft seems more interesting than most IMO. I really like 8 or 10 players at the top and some others down the way

agree wouldn't be surprised if one of those guys becomes one of the top players in this draft it's just hard to tell who

[el gringos]

Magic- Porzingis
Kings- WCS
Nuggets- Winslow
Detroit- Hezonja
Charlotte- johnson
Heat- Turner
Had somebody tell me that porzingis and WCS shouldn't even be in the conversation about what the Knicks should do at 4. My argument is that if like you're predicting that they are 2 of the next guys off the board then they should absolutely be considered. I hope okafor is taken at 2 and that both pg's are a level above the rest of the draft, but I'm just not sure the gap is so huge that you don't even consider the next group

[el gringos]

agree wouldn't be surprised if one of those guys becomes one of the top players in this draft it's just hard to tell who
The magic have a huge luxury here. They pick first (after the group of 4 "locks") and they aren't starving for a young guy to be a huge contributer. Of course they need to hit on their pick just like any other team but they could take a guy that needs a bit of time more than the Knicks or lakers in their current situation



My other question is are there any teams 5-10 needing a guard bad enough to trade up w the lakers, sixers, or Knicks?

[el gringos]

I should have put Looney in there. If private workouts make teams believe that he is an nba 3 then he jumps right up.

SG
1- Winslow
2- Mario
3- booker
4- Johnson
5- oubre

SF
1-looney
2- dekker


True SF is as usual hard to find. Dekker is a possible top 10 pick, also fits almost every 11-14 team

[Eric Cartman]

Magic-Winslow
Kings- WCS
Nuggets- Hezonja
Detroit- Porzingis
Charlotte- Kaminsky
Heat- Lyles

[el gringos]

Magic-Winslow
Kings- WCS
Nuggets- Hezonja
Detroit- Porzingis
Charlotte- Kaminsky
Heat- Lyles
Could definitly see a team falling in love w kaminsky or lyles.


Everyone seems to see Winslow, porzingis, Mario, and WCS "in a tier"?


So.........?
Towns
-----
Okafor
-------
Mudiay
Russell
---------
WCS
Porzingis
Mario
Winslow
---------
Turner
Johnson
Oubre
Booker
Kaminsky
Dekker
Lyles
Looney



Good draft. ESP if upshaw or Dakari Johnson turn out, or if any of the next wave of pg's do

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I don't think a lot of the secondary guys (outside top 4) will be that good, imo, but I see a lot of solid rotational players all the way to the end of the first round.

[Eric Cartman]

I don't think a lot of the secondary guys (outside top 4) will be that good, imo, but I see a lot of solid rotational players all the way to the end of the first round.

It's almost a sure thing that there will be an all star after the top 4 picks, probably more, look at every draft ever.

Who knows maybe Sam Dekker turns out to be the superstar of the draft or some crazy shit like that son.

[MellowYellow]

5- hezonja
6- winslow
7- wcs
8- mudiay
9-stan the man
10- Kaminsky

[Eric Cartman]

5- hezonja
6- winslow
7- wcs
8- mudiay
9-stan the man
10- Kaminsky
Who do the Knicks pick?

Also, Kings would be stupid to not pick WCS.

[MellowYellow]

Who do the Knicks pick?

Also, Kings would be stupid to not pick WCS.

1 KAT
2 Porzingis/Okafor
3 Russel
4 Porzingis/Okafor

[MellowYellow]

Who do the Knicks pick?

Also, Kings would be stupid to not pick WCS.
They already have DMC?

[Eric Cartman]

Okafor is a lock for the #2, we won't consider anyone else.

Knicks on the other hand, you never know what those crazy pricks will do, maybe pick Porzingis (doesn't look awfully impressive) cause Mudiay is a bad triangle fit?

Still, it's possible Russell will be available when the Knicks pick if Sixers pick Mudiay.

[MellowYellow]

Okafor is a lock for the #2, we won't consider anyone else.

Knicks on the other hand, you never know what those crazy pricks will do, maybe pick Porzingis (doesn't look awfully impressive) cause Mudiay is a bad triangle fit?

Still, it's possible Russell will be available when the Knicks pick if Sixers pick Mudiay.
Porzingis looks sick, unlimited range and can shoot off the dribble. He screams Dirk clone to me.

[Eric Cartman]

Porzingis looks sick, unlimited range and can shoot off the dribble.
link or gtfo

[MellowYellow]

link or gtfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOjHoJ-U6A

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOjHoJ-U6A

Doesn't rebound, play defense, no post game and soft as charming

Bargnani 2.0

[Eric Cartman]

Not even saying Bargnani as disrespect, look at Bargs very similar highlights coming out:

https://youtu.be/KzqJyADNaJI

Fit is very important with Porzingis, with the teams picking in the top 10, I'd say Detroit or Miami would be dope as f*ck.

Both have defensive/rebounding bigs and need some floor spacing. Hell prime healthy Bargnani would be awesome on the Pistons/Heat.

[T_L_P]

Doesn't rebound, play defense, no post game and soft as charming


Isn't this the Lakers in a nutshell?

[el gringos]

1 KAT
2 Porzingis/Okafor
3 Russel
4 Porzingis/Okafor
Love it. Porzingis should definitely be an option for ny. Decide if mudiay is a future all nba talent, or go for porzingis is my thoughts. WCS third option at 4

[Eric Cartman]

Isn't this the Lakers in a nutshell?
Not the 15-16 version :banana:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

It's almost a sure thing that there will be an all star after the top 4 picks, probably more, look at every draft ever.

Who knows maybe Sam Dekker turns out to be the superstar of the draft or some crazy shit like that son.

Well sure, like probably every draft. But that 5-14 doesn't look that much better than the guys in the teens and there's some really high upside/very safe 20-30 picks.

[el gringos]

Well sure, like probably every draft. But that 5-14 doesn't look that much better than the guys in the teens and there's some really high upside/very safe 20-30 picks.
Like who? I don't see it. I think it's a good top 15 and then a really weak rest of the draft. There doesn't seem to be much international talent outside the top couple. I like Andrew Harrison and Norman Powell, and think there's big potential in Dakari and upshaw but not sure who else. Who you thinking ?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

They already have DMC?
And I think Porzingis would complement DMC better.

Plus new VPoBO Vlade will be making the pick. I'm guessing he goes w/ a foreigner.

Either way, Kings need a good complementary big for Cousins. The problem w/ JT is he's just DMC-light. Cousins can beast it down low, or play the pick-n-roll/pop. Whatever big is paired w/ him needs to be another beast down low while Cousins plays mid-range, or a stretch 4.

WCS and Porzingis are the only 2 options Kings should even consider, here. Maybe Lyles or Turner at PF? I think Dekker is a dark horse for the Kings to reach on, given Karl's play style...

[el gringos]

I think Dekker is a dark horse for the Kings to reach on, given Karl's play style...
Not that crazy of a thought. A kings fan would hope they'd trade back for that pick but that's not ever as easy as it sounds.