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OmniStrife
05-24-2015, 05:15 AM
I know it has been going on for a few years now, but still seeing such dominance from the team, and with Curry cementing himself as a super-star and MVP...

Are we in for a new 3pt-era? Kids today can see that even without superhuman athleticism one can become the best, anyone can shoot and make a 3.
I can see an influx of young guys in the future working religiously on their long range shooting and teams seeking out potential snipers in the drafts.

We were always told that you live by the 3 and you die by the 3...
That's true when your shooters are average+, but when you have true ELITE shooter, or even two, paired with a good defense on the other side, that saying is rendered void.
Thing is, we just never had enough great shooters on a team.

I believe teams will try to go after GSW's model and get at least 2 GREAT shooters in their starting lineups.

keep-itreal
05-24-2015, 05:17 AM
they haven't won a title yet, stop overreacting

OmniStrife
05-24-2015, 05:21 AM
they haven't won a title yet, stop overreacting
Even if they lose in the finals... I still believe they've made their mark.

Im Still Ballin
05-24-2015, 05:22 AM
If anything, Miami started the trend

Well, small ball anyways, which is essentially the principle

Sarcastic
05-24-2015, 05:26 AM
In a few years a dominant center will emerge again and crush the 3 point shooting teams, and everyone will go back to realizing that at the end of the day, you can't teach height.

theaussieguy
05-24-2015, 05:32 AM
I dunno man, I think 3 point shooting has been emphasized for a long time. Its common for players to sink hundreds every single day. I think the reality is that Curry is just an absolute freak of a 3 point shooter and player. Its a skillset anyone can improve on but it takes more than just obscene amounts of practice to get to Currys level, it takes a gift which is evident because its obviously a lot down to genetics in Steph's case because his father was also a knockdown shooter with very similar form.

The_Yearning
05-24-2015, 05:36 AM
Curry is to the 3 point line as what Shaq was inside the paint.

There will never be another.

Collie
05-24-2015, 05:43 AM
Curry is to the 3 point line as what Shaq was inside the paint.

There will never be another.

This. Steph Curry is an anomaly. It's like saying how the skyhook would have changed the game in the 90's... except KAJ was the only one who could do it.

dunksby
05-24-2015, 05:57 AM
NBA will always be impressed and impacted by stars and a great mind behind the team, most of the time, the team with a great supporting cast and system to complement star players wins.

Chizdog
05-24-2015, 06:17 AM
Lebron already figured it out long time ago. That is why he always recruit 3 point champions for his team.

Alamо
05-24-2015, 06:19 AM
There are already tons of elite shooters in the league. Probably over 20 guys who would make at least 90 of 100 threes in practice. Curry is special because he's more than just a good 3 pt shooter. The way he handles the ball, the way he gets open, the way he releases, his quickness, his ability to finish inside, his confidence, hustle, etc puts him above other good 3pt shooters. You can be the greatest pure shooter ever, but unless you get an open look 10+ times a game every game then you just aren't Curry.

nzahir
05-24-2015, 06:21 AM
You live and die by the 3, if your defense cant get stops; but the warriors are #1 in defense as well(talk about stacked). So if you arent hitting 3s then you have the defense to fall back on

Genaro
05-24-2015, 06:27 AM
NBA has changed since the MDA/Nash's Phoenix Suns. Those teams succeeded with the whole 3 point ball, stretch 4, small line up thing.
Warriors is the evolution of that team because they also have the great defense to win the games where they go cold offensively.

navy
05-24-2015, 06:35 AM
We've been officially in the 3 point era since the Mavs massacred the defending champs Lakers triangle chucking 3s.

AintNoSunshine
05-24-2015, 06:42 AM
Shooting isnt all about hardwork:facepalm he is by far the best shooter in human history not because he is THE hardest working one

VengefulAngel
05-24-2015, 06:47 AM
Most teams in the modern era have had some emphasis on 3 point shooting, this isn't anything new, it was revolutionised by D'Antoni with his space-pace offense, developed by teams like the Spurs and Miami. It's no surprise to me that team's have adopted the same philosophy and this has resulted in improvements in the degree in which they have exploited the 3 as a weapon.

I still believe that Cleveland has a decent chance against GSW in the finals, as they also have an array of three point snipers, this coupled with Lebron feeding them the ball may be enough.

Plus Cleveland match up pretty well defensively against GSW. With the acquisition of JR, Shump and Mozgov.

sekachu
05-24-2015, 07:10 AM
I know it has been going on for a few years now, but still seeing such dominance from the team, and with Curry cementing himself as a super-star and MVP...

Are we in for a new 3pt-era? Kids today can see that even without superhuman athleticism one can become the best, anyone can shoot and make a 3.
I can see an influx of young guys in the future working religiously on their long range shooting and teams seeking out potential snipers in the drafts.

We were always told that you live by the 3 and you die by the 3...
That's true when your shooters are average+, but when you have true ELITE shooter, or even two, paired with a good defense on the other side, that saying is rendered void.
Thing is, we just never had enough great shooters on a team.

I believe teams will try to go after GSW's model and get at least 2 GREAT shooters in their starting lineups.




The question is "Can he able to maintain his level of shooting for the next few years" and accomplish 3 peats?.

plowking
05-24-2015, 07:15 AM
Can we stop pretending Curry isn't an amazing athlete?

Dude is 6'3, quick as hell, agile, has a great jump on him (36 inch vertical), and is extremely coordinated.
He simply doesn't have a big wingspan...

Blue&Orange
05-24-2015, 07:22 AM
about to being raped by Tristan Thompson and allow him to set NBA finals record offensive rebounds? Yes. Dunno about changing NBA basketball as we know it.

GOBB
05-24-2015, 07:38 AM
Can we stop pretending Curry isn't an amazing athlete?

Dude is 6'3, quick as hell, agile, has a great jump on him (36 inch vertical), and is extremely coordinated.
He simply doesn't have a big wingspan...

He's not. Amazing athlete is Westbrook. You dont say amazing athletes in the NBA, Bron, Westbrook, Curry.

NumberSix
05-24-2015, 07:44 AM
As much as I hate him, I'd still say Durant is a better shoot than Curry.

Mr Feeny
05-24-2015, 07:46 AM
As much as I hate him, I'd still say Durant is a better shoot than Curry.

Not even Durant himself would even attempt to argue that.

NumberSix
05-24-2015, 07:49 AM
Not even Durant himself would even attempt to argue that.
Durant has a wider shooting repertoire than Curry. Much of it due to his height advantage. You're never gonna see curry fade away or raise up over a defender the way Durant does.

warriorfan
05-24-2015, 08:16 AM
Durant has a wider shooting repertoire than Curry. Much of it due to his height advantage. You're never gonna see curry fade away or raise up over a defender the way Durant does.


Wouldn't shooting the same or better percentages as KD while being 7 inches shorter indicate you are a BETTER shooter?


:biggums:



Curry has higher career 3point % and FT %, Durant has a slight raw FG% edge over Curry but that can be attributed to easier finishes around the rim due to him being 7 inches taller as said before. Not really related to shooting.



I'm not sure what type of argument you are gonna make for Kevin Durant being a better shooter than Steph Curry.

theaussieguy
05-24-2015, 08:51 AM
He's not. Amazing athlete is Westbrook. You dont say amazing athletes in the NBA, Bron, Westbrook, Curry.

He is an amazing athlete compared to the general population, and very underrated. He has a 36 inch vertical. Westbrook only has a 36.5 inch vertical. Obviously Westbrook is more athletic, but Westbrook is absolutely elite in that regard, he makes most people look unathletic.

Lebron23
05-24-2015, 08:52 AM
Curry is the better shooter while Durant is the better player.

sd3035
05-24-2015, 08:57 AM
Curry is the better shooter while Durant is the better player.

Both are certainly better than Lebaldo :cheers:

GOBB
05-24-2015, 08:57 AM
He is an amazing athlete compared to the general population, and very underrated. He has a 36 inch vertical. Westbrook only has a 36.5 inch vertical. Obviously Westbrook is more athletic, but Westbrook is absolutely elite in that regard, he makes most people look unathletic.

His vert is irrelevant if he isnt explosive above the rim. That ties into being an amazing athlete. Not sure what the saying amazing athlete means to you. It just doesn't have me saying Curry is too.

Lebron23
05-24-2015, 08:57 AM
Both are certainly better than Lebaldo :cheers:

Both are ringless.

FreezingTsmoove
05-24-2015, 09:05 AM
Smh nothing different. There are guys today and from the past who have worked just as hard aa Curry on their 3ball. Steph is better because he has better form and the green light

sd3035
05-24-2015, 09:10 AM
Both are ringless.

2*/6 :roll:

Clifton
05-24-2015, 09:22 AM
I think they are.

The game first started to change when Lebron and Wade came in and made passing cool again. So the era of individual glory through hero-ball came to an end.

Then Boston, LA, and then Miami brought together 3 individual superstars each and won titles with them. So the era of individual glory at all costs was ended.

Then, people started to realize that the reason the super-teams won was NOT because of their multiple all-stars, but because their superstars took the lead in playing team ball and good defense. It was the open threes these players would create, and the team defense, that won the titles.

Then the Spurs realized, as their guys got old, that not only is it 3pt shooting and defense that wins titles, but that even if your guys are old and hobbled, if you get 3pt shooters and defenders to move well without the ball, you don't even need the superstars!

Then SA inspired Atlanta and Golden State. And the new era of basketball has begun.

It will reach its peak when GS wins a title and the Spurs are still winning 50 games even with Duncan and Manu retired and nobody recognizable on the roster.

It's a great day to be an NBA fan.

SugarHill
05-24-2015, 09:26 AM
Can we stop pretending Curry isn't an amazing athlete?

Dude is 6'3, quick as hell, agile, has a great jump on him (36 inch vertical), and is extremely coordinated.
He simply doesn't have a big wingspan...
Fam has nowhere near a 36 vert. Are you fvcking crazy? Dude looks like has zero lift and he's 6'3 doing rim grazers

Im Still Ballin
05-24-2015, 09:30 AM
Shut the **** up moe you're not black


don't use the word fam, his name is Stephen

rzp
05-24-2015, 09:35 AM
Shaq's Lakers were an amazing 3 point shooting team (mostly due to Shaq's dominance). Fox, Fisher, Horry, George were raining 3's sometimes.

But oficially Nash's Suns started it imo.

SCdac
05-24-2015, 12:30 PM
Dallas Mavs 11, Heat 12-13, and Spurs 14 all took a good amount of three's too. That's not even going back that far. Warriors still have to win the Finals to even be remembered in this vain. Not to mention I don't see them as a typical jump shooting team

Chadwin
05-24-2015, 12:47 PM
Fam has nowhere near a 36 vert. Are you fvcking crazy? Dude looks like has zero lift and he's 6'3 doing rim grazers

agreed

Westbrook and Curry aren't anywhere close to each other on max vertical reach

DonDadda59
05-24-2015, 01:00 PM
These new eras don't last very long do they? :oldlol:

After last year, everyone was talking about how the Spurs effectively killed hero ball forever... a year later LeBron is LeBronballing the f*ck out of the one team that actually tried to be the Spurs (after the actual Spurs were bounced in the first round) and the MVP and runner up are one man armying their way through the WCF.

plowking
05-24-2015, 01:02 PM
Fam has nowhere near a 36 vert. Are you fvcking crazy? Dude looks like has zero lift and he's 6'3 doing rim grazers

Dude has a 36 inch vert, officially, from the draft combine.

His wingspan is 6'3 though, where as Westbrook is 6'8.

SugarHill
05-24-2015, 01:10 PM
Dude has a 36 inch vert, officially, from the draft combine.

His wingspan is 6'3 though, where as Westbrook is 6'8.
all that shit seems hokey. Apparently Mayo has or at least had a 41 vert lol

97 bulls
05-24-2015, 01:57 PM
I know it has been going on for a few years now, but still seeing such dominance from the team, and with Curry cementing himself as a super-star and MVP...

Are we in for a new 3pt-era? Kids today can see that even without superhuman athleticism one can become the best, anyone can shoot and make a 3.
I can see an influx of young guys in the future working religiously on their long range shooting and teams seeking out potential snipers in the drafts.

We were always told that you live by the 3 and you die by the 3...
That's true when your shooters are average+, but when you have true ELITE shooter, or even two, paired with a good defense on the other side, that saying is rendered void.
Thing is, we just never had enough great shooters on a team.

I believe teams will try to go after GSW's model and get at least 2 GREAT shooters in their starting lineups.
I agree. I think this is the evolution of the NBA. I remember people saying a SG couldn't lead a team to a championship. That you needed to have a dominant big. Jordan and the Bulls as well as Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons changed that.

Then the saying was you live by the three you die by it. Look at San Antonio and now possibly Golden State. And they're young. I see them being a dynasty

UK2K
05-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Analytics changed basketball.

Now young kids will grow up shooting 2000 3's a day. The old shooting records will be blown away... Because statistics.

juju151111
05-24-2015, 02:01 PM
These new eras don't last very long do they? :oldlol:

After last year, everyone was talking about how the Spurs effectively killed hero ball forever... a year later LeBron is LeBronballing the f*ck out of the one team that actually tried to be the Spurs (after the actual Spurs were bounced in the first round) and the MVP and runner up are one man armying their way through the WCF.
The Warriors were top 3 in asts.

Doranku
05-24-2015, 02:02 PM
I think they are.

The game first started to change when Lebron and Wade came in and made passing cool again. So the era of individual glory through hero-ball came to an end.

Then Boston, LA, and then Miami brought together 3 individual superstars each and won titles with them. So the era of individual glory at all costs was ended.

:biggums:

Straight_Ballin
05-24-2015, 02:26 PM
This. Steph Curry is an anomaly. It's like saying how the skyhook would have changed the game in the 90's... except KAJ was the only one who could do it.

It's one thing for me to be splashing 3's all over my local league at a high clip but to see what Curry is doing in the NBA with that high a level of defense is spectacular. Elite shooter recognize elite shooter.

inclinerator
05-24-2015, 02:38 PM
He is an amazing athlete compared to the general population, and very underrated. He has a 36 inch vertical. Westbrook only has a 36.5 inch vertical. Obviously Westbrook is more athletic, but Westbrook is absolutely elite in that regard, he makes most people look unathletic.
most guys that even train somewhat are amazing athletes compared to the general population lol

Kingwillball
05-24-2015, 02:40 PM
People you do realize the next great dynasty is the Cleveland Cavaliers. They are going to the first of what could be 5 or 6 straight NBA finals. They have all the pieces in place if they resign and keep everybody to have a great team in place with a perfect mix of size shooting scoring playmaking ect for years to come. Lebron will have another handful of chances to add rings. This is the year to beat the Cavs cause they will only be deeper barring health and more experienced in upcoming seasons.

DonDadda59
05-24-2015, 02:40 PM
The Warriors were top 3 in asts.

And the Jordan Bulls averaged more assists per game than the Spurs from '13-'14 on lower paces. :confusedshrug:

Jameerthefear
05-24-2015, 02:43 PM
It's one thing for me to be splashing 3's all over my local league at a high clip but to see what Curry is doing in the NBA with that high a level of defense is spectacular. Elite shooter recognize elite shooter.
Hey dad, do you still think Dell Curry is better than Steph?