Please stop the GOAT shooter hype, Curry hasn't even had a 50/40/90 season yet

[Chadwin]

and is 40% for his career from 3-10 feet:lol

[SugarHill]

He's still a ridiculously efficient player. Dude is averaging 30 PPG on 63 TS% in the playoffs as a PG

[Bobcats2013]

a 2015 nikka talkin about stats.

[Kblaze8855]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.

[tontoz]

Another dumb thread. Curry launches more 3s per game than anyone in the league which makes it harder to shoot 50% from the field.

Curry shot 52.8% on 2s this year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html

[Chadwin]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.

and yet Nash still has a better career ORtg, and is still the GOAT shooter

[illmaticone]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.

Amazing post. Curry shooting 48% while hitting the amount of 3's he does is unbelievable. He is one of if not the best shooter of all time. Nash is an excellent shooter, but he was never the team's #1 scoring option and took much less attempts per game. The only person I'd say is a better overall shooter is Larry Bird, if you're talking about short-range, mid-range, and long-range.

[Chadwin]

Amazing post. Curry shooting 48% while hitting the amount of 3's he does is unbelievable. He is one of if not the best shooter of all time. Nash is an excellent shooter, but he was never the team's #1 scoring option and took much less attempts per game. The only person I'd say is a better overall shooter is Larry Bird, if you're talking about short-range, mid-range, and long-range.

For some reason 3-10 feet is his weakness

40% from there for his career in the regular season

32.8% from there for his career in the playoffs:lol

[plowking]

If you want someone to make any kind of 3, who do you pick? Curry.

Easy as that. He is the best. Ever.

[SugarHill]

If you want someone to make any kind of 3, who do you pick? Curry.

Easy as that. He is the best. Ever.
Honestly? Durant

[Dave3]

Thing is, no one cares about your arbitrary criteria for being considered a GOAT shooter. Ray Allen never had a 50/40 season either, and 3 years ago, he was the GOAT shooter.

You can choose whatever arbitrary cutoff you want for yourself, but if you think even a minority of people will agree with such a trivial cutoff, you're very deeply mistaken.

[plowking]

Honestly? Durant

I'll take the guy who shoots 6% better on far more attempts.

[allball]

the only off the dribble shooter that I would argue may have been better than Curry is Mark Price. He was more of true PG than Curry and didn't take as many 3s but his mid-range was money.

and he did have at least one 50/40/90 season. his FG PCT was .526, 3 PT was .441. averaged 18.9 per game.

he also had a season where he shot .506 and .486 from 3 PT range although he only averaged 16 PTs and took only 148 3s, although that was a lot in those days.

[LAZERUSS]

Every generation has examples of "GOATs."

Give me Bob Hayes, with the same advantages of modern athletes (shoes, turf, etc.), and he would beat everyone...not named Bolt. Bolt is a once-in-a-generation sprinter.

Pure shooting? Jerry Lucas could hit open 25+ ft shots in his sleep. Bird and Mullin, as well. BUT, for creating their own offense AND shooting...Ray Allen was arguably the "GOAT"...until Curry.

We are witnessing a once-in-a-generation pure shooter.

[Dave3]

Honestly? Durant

I'll take the guy who shoots 6% better on far more attempts.
I think you can't really go wrong with either, but Steph has the slight edge. When either of those guys shoot a quick 3 with moderate space, you expect a basket.

[1~Gibson~1]

If Steph Curry is in his prime, he has a long way to go until he's on the decline.

Which means, at the rate he is accelerating, he'll EVENTUALLY be the GOAT shooter.

Which means that we are currently witnessing whom will be known as the GOAT shooter 40 years from now.

[RRR3]

That's more of a product of his shot selection than anything else. If he was more selective he could probably shoot 55/50/90 :lol

[ralph_i_el]

and is 40% for his career from 3-10 feet:lol

wow you're a moron

3-10 feet is a really tough range to shoot from for little guys. Compare his %'s to other great guards.

He hasn't made a 50/40/90 because he shoots a higher rate of 3's than any other player who has been close (besides korver if he did it, I forget).

BTW, Curry has shot over 50% on 2's the last 2 season.

[ralph_i_el]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.

Didn't see this post:applause: Kblaze with the jam

[jzek]

a 2015 nikka talkin about stats.

an alt

[ImKobe]

When was the last time a player averaged 11 3PA and shot 44,8% on threes in the Playoffs?

Curry has already made 64 threes in 13 Playoff games so far and is averaging 30/5/7/2 on 48/45/82 shooting (63%TS) while taking more threes than shots inside the arc.

Dude is easily the GOAT shooter.

[Chadwin]

wow you're a moron

3-10 feet is a really tough range to shoot from for little guys. Compare his %'s to other great guards.

He hasn't made a 50/40/90 because he shoots a higher rate of 3's than any other player who has been close (besides korver if he did it, I forget).

BTW, Curry has shot over 50% on 2's the last 2 season.

Nash, who is less athletic than Curry:

.446 from 3-10 career reg season
.450 in the playoffs

no excuses

[dunksby]

Curry is a three point specialist, he barely shoots from mid-range, you can't compare him to other great shooters because he has a whole different shot selection than others.

[Kblaze8855]

The term "no excuses" might be an even more consistent example of the person saying it being ridiculous than 2/5.

How such a large group of reasonably intelligent people fall back on ridiculous buzzwords to make their points is beyond me.

Why come on a forum to present your opinions and do nothing but parrot the words and phrases of those around you?

No excuses....2 for 5...hold this ____.

I'm left feeling like the naval officer who shows up at the end of Lord of the Flies to find a group of presumably normal children acting like ****ing idiot savages.

What is it about expressing opinions via text that turns normal people into repetitive parrots without a spec of creativity?

I say the above ignoring the hypocrisy of it being the second or third time I've asked.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.

GOAT level post.

:bowdown:

[Genaro]

The guy had 48/44/91 in the RS. Would he be that much better if he was 2% better? Come on, man. Stop trolling.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

The guy had 48/44/91 in the RS. Would he be that much better if he was 2% better? Come on, man. Stop trolling.

The thing is, he's shooting far more 3's and/or volume than the other guys listed. If he didn't shoot as many 3''s or as much in general, his efficiency would increase.

[oarabbus]

He shoots 49% for the season while taking 8 threes a game....

In the playoffs hes shooting over 11 threes a game and hes still shooting 48% overall.

Nobody to this point or likely in the future is gonna make 50% of their total shots while shooting that many 3s.

He takes as many 3s a game as Kyle Korver takes shots. And he isnt running plays designed to get him an open 3 he can practice and know when its coming.

This guy is taking 28 foot off the dribble contested pullup jumpers.

The reason a lot of guys who are normal great shooters cant usually perform like this in the playoffs is because they...like Korver...spend a season taking 3s off plays designed for it that a team only sees 5-6 times. So he gets 3-4 open looks and the team plays someone else the next night.

In the playoffs you get all your film watched and guys see your same play and concepts used again and again night after night and you cant keep getting the same open looks. They know you are gonna cut back when Paul seems to be setting a screen for you to go baseline. They know where you want to end up when you circle under the basket and Horford bumps them. The are told time and again what your spots are and what the plays being run for you are. So you cant keep having it work....

Curry is making up shots on the fly. hes just walking up looking you in the eye and taking a 25 footer off the dribble.....over and over.

Nobody ive ever seen showed they could do what he does.

Maybe some of them could...but they never did it for nearly as long as he has. Curry has been jogging into "Bench his ass!" threes for years and making them.

He doesnt need to shoot 50% to be the best shooter ever.

The ones who shoot 50% couldnt likely shoot the 48% he does if they took 8-10 threes every night.

Dirk wasnt having his 3s created by set plays either...he would take threes the game presented...transition 3s...quick opening threes. He wasnt Korvering his way to 3s....but Curry still takes 4 times the 3s Dirk took when he did 50/40/90.

And Korver for all the talk this year didnt shoot 50%(or 90% from the line). And he took 8 shots a game.

Reggie was taking 13 total shots a game and less than half the threes Steph takes. And he was having plays run to create a huge chunk of said threes.

Nash on the suns is really the only one to go 50/40/90 while taking a large number of 3s without the benefit of having an offense designed to get him open looks out there. The Suns system was designed for shooters to thrive but he wasnt the one it was creating looks for. He created a lot of his looks himself....only he shot 9-13 times a game his Suns career. He wasnt expected to come down and try to score. He was a playmaker who could score. Curry is played as a scorer...constantly guarded under the assumption hes looking to score. Teams defend him as if they expect him to shoot the moment hes across halfcourt.

Steph shooting 48% playing the way he does is ****ing ridiculous.

People arent supposed to shoot 47-48% taking hundreds of threes off the dribble.

If he has a 50/40/90 season it likely just means he took less shots. Which would make him less effective not more.

Hed hit a statistical milestone at the expense of his team. Meaning said milestone probably doesnt much matter.


:applause:

[warriorfan]

OP is so stupid...I pray that he is just trolling


anways props to Kblaze for shutting this nonsense down before it even began, nice work

[TheBigVeto]

He hasn't but he's great and deserves all the accolades this year.

[Cali Syndicate]

Curry breaks the 3pt season record 2 seasons ago and then breaks his own record this season but Curry's shooting is hype because he isnt as efficient on 3-10ft floaters as he is when he's actually shooting.... makes sense.

[ThickassGlasses]

Curry breaks the 3pt season record 2 seasons ago and then breaks his own record this season but Curry's shooting is hype because he isnt as efficient on 3-10ft floaters as he is when he's actually shooting.... makes sense.
His 3-10 % got a lot better this year while shooting there a bit more so it's not as if that's even a ceiling for him.


That said, if he needs to step him mid-range game up (that 10-16) to really enter that LeBron/Durant tier. If Curry just becomes better, not CP3 status, from there it just adds a whole new level to his game that literally might make him unstoppable for defenses.

Imagine if Curry got as automatic, or close to, as CP3 coming off the pick and pulling up at the elbow. Does a defense go around the pick to stop the incoming three bomb? Do they roll under the pick to cut off that pull-up at the elbow? Or do they dart to the rim to stop the drive-n-dish or floater off the top of the board? Unstoppable, hell he barely is now without even possessing the mid-range option.

[warriorfan]

His 3-10 % got a lot better this year while shooting there a bit more so it's not as if that's even a ceiling for him.


That said, if he needs to step him mid-range game up (that 10-16) to really enter that LeBron/Durant tier. If Curry just becomes better, not CP3 status, from there it just adds a whole new level to his game that literally might make him unstoppable for defenses.

Imagine if Curry got as automatic, or close to, as CP3 coming off the pick and pulling up at the elbow. Does a defense go around the pick to stop the incoming three bomb? Do they roll under the pick to cut off that pull-up at the elbow? Or do they dart to the rim to stop the drive-n-dish or floater off the top of the board? Unstoppable, hell he barely is now without even possessing the mid-range option.


Curry's 3 point shot shits on CP3, Durant, and especially LeBron's mid range game

Shooting 44% from 3 > shooting 50% from 2.

There is a good reason why Steph scores more efficiently then all 3 of those guys you named

[ThickassGlasses]

Curry's 3 point shot shits on CP3, Durant, and especially LeBron's mid range game

Shooting 44% from 3 > shooting 50% from 2.

There is a good reason why Steph scores more efficiently then all 3 of those guys you named

Never once did I disagree.

But if you watched Game 2 and 3 of that Memphis series you can't tell me Curry would not have been more effective had he had CP3-esque mid-range game. :confusedshrug:


And it's not as if I'm telling LeBron to become a GOAT level shooter, I think it's a very realistic goal for Curry.

[warriorfan]

Never once did I disagree.

But if you watched Game 2 and 3 of that Memphis series you can't tell me Curry would not have been more effective had he had CP3-esque mid-range game. :confusedshrug:


And it's not as if I'm telling LeBron to become a GOAT level shooter, I think it's a very realistic goal for Curry.


If you watched games 1, 2, 3, and 4 of New Orleans series and Game 1, 4, 5, and 6 of the Memphis series and Game 1 and 2 of the Houston series you would see that he is the best shooter in the game and he doesn't need to add less efficient shots to his repertoire.

And he is already the GOAT shooter...I think I'll go with the majority of former NBA players and coaches rather then the minority of ISH'ers with an agenda.

[ThickassGlasses]

If you watched games 1, 2, 3, and 4 of New Orleans series and Game 1, 4, 5, and 6 of the Memphis series and Game 1 and 2 of the Houston series you would see that he is the best shooter in the game and he doesn't need to add less efficient shots to his repertoire.

And he is already the GOAT shooter...I think I'll go with the majority of former NBA players and coaches rather then the minority of ISH'ers with an agenda.

So now Curry being able to shoot better inside the 3 point line makes him a worse player? :biggums:

Kid, I'm a huge Curry fan. Met him a few times here in Charlotte, personally watched him shoot around a bit at the Y downtown, played against Seth in a pick-up game, so Curry is probably my favorite player right now...

That doesn't mean that he can't get better by fixing a glaring weakness.

[warriorfan]

So now Curry being able to shoot better inside the 3 point line makes him a worse player? :biggums:

Kid, I'm a huge Curry fan. Met him a few times here in Charlotte, personally watched him shoot around a bit at the Y downtown, played against Seth in a pick-up game, so Curry is probably my favorite player right now...

That doesn't mean that he can't get better by fixing a glaring weakness.


Do you want to admit even with the as you put it "Glaring weakness" he is the GOAT shooter?


And you are missing the point, Curry doesn't need a 2 point shot. (He has a 2 point shot as well by the way). You don't think someone who is the GOAT 3 point shooter who routinely makes 30 foot off the dribble contested bombs isn't able to stroke 10 to 15 foot jumpers with ease? This makes no sense.


If Curry gets any 3 pointer he wants and hits it at a 45% clip, there is literally no reason for him to be taking mid range jump shots


:facepalm


P.S I never doubted that you weren't a fan of Curry. I doubted your understanding of basic basketball concepts and strategy.

[Round Mound]

Every generation has examples of "GOATs."

Give me Bob Hayes, with the same advantages of modern athletes (shoes, turf, etc.), and he would beat everyone...not named Bolt. Bolt is a once-in-a-generation sprinter.

Pure shooting? Jerry Lucas could hit open 25+ ft shots in his sleep. Bird and Mullin, as well. BUT, for creating their own offense AND shooting...Ray Allen was arguably the "GOAT"...until Curry.

We are witnessing a once-in-a-generation pure shooter.

This :applause: and like another poster mentioned: its almost impossible to make those 3s off the dribble consistantly. Curry is one of the best shooters ever right up there with Mullin (the best shooter i ever saw prior to what Curry is doing) and Bird.

[ThickassGlasses]

Do you want to admit even with the as you put it "Glaring weakness" he is the GOAT shooter?


And you are missing the point, Curry doesn't need a 2 point shot. (He has a 2 point shot as well by the way). You don't think someone who is the GOAT 3 point shooter who routinely makes 30 foot off the dribble contested bombs isn't able to stroke 10 to 15 foot jumpers with ease? This makes no sense.


If Curry gets any 3 pointer he wants and hits it at a 45% clip, there is literally no reason for him to be taking mid range jump shots


:facepalm


P.S I never doubted that you weren't a fan of Curry. I doubted your understanding of basic basketball concepts and strategy.

Wow you are dense.

I have said Curry is the best shooter, ever, for over a year now. I'm not "admitting" anything since it has been my opinion for some time.

This is the flaw in your logic, when a physical, laterally quick defender is on Curry he struggles to get clean looks from 3 (and yes he still shoots those contested ones better than most shoot open ones). The defender then goes over the top of the screen while a big cuts off the basket. If Curry was able to take 2 steps towards the basket, backing up the help, he'd have an open mid-range jumper. I am not saying Curry should change how he plays, I'm saying that instead of shooting 20% from mid-range if he shot 50% he'd be a better player.

I literally feel like I am explaining basketball to a first-grader right now.

[warriorfan]

Wow you are dense.

I have said Curry is the best shooter, ever, for over a year now. I'm not "admitting" anything since it has been my opinion for some time.

This is the flaw in your logic, when a physical, laterally quick defender is on Curry he struggles to get clean looks from 3 (and yes he still shoots those contested ones better than most shoot open ones). The defender then goes over the top of the screen while a big cuts off the basket. If Curry was able to take 2 steps towards the basket, backing up the help, he'd have an open mid-range jumper. I am not saying Curry should change how he plays, I'm saying that instead of shooting 20% from mid-range if he shot 50% he'd be a better player.

I literally feel like I am explaining basketball to a first-grader right now.


Wrong. He has a playoff average of 10 3 point shot attempts a game. He isn't struggling to get clean looks from 3.


Mid range shot even for GOAT shooter isn't the best of looks. Better to get a 3 pointer or keep rotating the ball for a better shot.


Telling the best offense in the league they need to work in more midrange jumpers into their gameplan....


:biggums:

[ThickassGlasses]

Wrong. He has a playoff average of 10 3 point shot attempts a game. He isn't struggling to get clean looks from 3.


Mid range shot even for GOAT shooter isn't the best of looks. Better to get a 3 pointer or keep rotating the ball for a better shot.


Telling the best offense in the league they need to work in more midrange jumpers into their gameplan....


:biggums:

Can you read? Or is the issue comprehension?

1. I said
I am not saying Curry should change how he plays, I'm saying that instead of shooting 20% from mid-range if he shot 50% he'd be a better player. so your last sentence makes no sense at all.

2. It is not better to shoot a contested three than an open mid-range jumper. Continue circulating the ball? Maybe, but I don't see what you have against 2 point buckets. I'm going to keep going back to CP3 because he is a PG that happens to have that elite mid-range game. It's an automatic 2 points when he gets an open look from the elbow. CP3 is every bit the playmaker Curry is so you can't pretend that there is something else Curry could do that CP3 can't, other than shoot the three. Which leads me back to my point, when a physical defender, with quick lateral feet gets into Curry's pocket he struggles more now than he would with a mid-range game. It's not even arguable.

And back to the Memphis series when Tony Allen and Conley were healthy.. 15/40, 4/22 from three. He would have been more effective if they respected a mid-range jumper. Tony Allen, and Conley to a lesser degree, ran Curry off the 3 point line well forcing him to take contested threes the entire time. Even when Curry got a step around them had the rim blocked off so he just had to pull back out and start the offense again.

[warriorfan]

I don't have anything against 2 point buckets, I'm pointing out that the midrange 2 point shot is the most inefficient look in basketball. This cannot be denied, this is a known fact.




I'm going to keep going back to CP3 because he is a PG that happens to have that elite mid-range game. It's an automatic 2 points when he gets an open look from the elbow.


Now you are just being absurd. CP3 is not automatic from the Elbow. look at his stats, he shoots at best 50% from there. 50% chance to get 2 points is far from "automatic".



Face it bro, if Curry gets the ball and a defender closes out on his 3 point shot, the best option is not to take a step inside the line and take a jumper. He should either pass out of it or sidestep and take a 3 pointer. Those are the more efficient options, that is why he takes those options.

[ThickassGlasses]

I don't have anything against 2 point buckets, I'm pointoing out that the midrange 2 point shot is the most inefficient look in basketball. This cannot be denied, this is a known fact.



The same people that say that, say "live by the three, dye by the three". :rolleyes:

Rules such as those don't apply when your at the top level. It's the same reason if you ran out onto the court throwing up triples the way Curry does, your team would stop passing you the ball.





Now you are just being absurd. CP3 is not automatic from the Elbow. look at his stats, he shoots at best 50% from there. 50% chance to get 2 points is far from "automatic".

60% in the playoffs, 52% during the regular season. He also takes almost double the shots Curry does (or should) from there. And those numbers aren't specifically from the elbow, if they were I'd bet anything that they'd be higher.

[warriorfan]

The same people that say that, say "live by the three, dye by the three". :rolleyes:

Rules such as those don't apply when your at the top level. It's the same reason if you ran out onto the court throwing up triples the way Curry does, your team would stop passing you the ball.

60% in the playoffs, 52% during the regular season. He also takes almost double the shots Curry does (or should) from there. And those numbers aren't specifically from the elbow, if they were I'd bet anything that they'd be higher.


I wish you could talk to Steve Kerr and be like "Hey Steve, you know what we need to do? We need to implement more long range 2 point jumpers for Steph". Reaction would be priceless.

[ThickassGlasses]

I don't have anything against 2 point buckets, I'm pointing out that the midrange 2 point shot is the most inefficient look in basketball. This cannot be denied, this is a known fact.






Now you are just being absurd. CP3 is not automatic from the Elbow. look at his stats, he shoots at best 50% from there. 50% chance to get 2 points is far from "automatic".



Face it bro, if Curry gets the ball and a defender closes out on his 3 point shot, the best option is not to take a step inside the line and take a jumper. He should either pass out of it or sidestep and take a 3 pointer. Those are the more efficient options, that is why he takes those options.

Alright, we're done. You don't understand how the game works and I'm not going to be the one to explain it to you. Maybe your dad will once you hit your 14th birthday :confusedshrug:

If you can't comprehend shooting 50% instead of 20% from anywhere on the court makes you a better player, then I think you should just forget how to turn on your computer.

[warriorfan]

Alright, we're done. You don't understand how the game works and I'm not going to be the one to explain it to you. Maybe your dad will once you hit your 14th birthday :confusedshrug:

If you can't comprehend shooting 50% instead of 20% from anywhere on the court makes you a better player, then I think you should just forget how to turn on your computer.


WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO IMPROVE THE SHOT THAT IS LITERALLY THE WORST SHOT TO TAKE IN BASKETBALL


:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:


Get the fucc out of here with your Charles Barkely Jr. style analysis with your "live and die by the 3" and saying how Steph Curry needs to play more like CP3. You are an idiot.

[Chadwin]

I wish you could talk to Steve Kerr and be like "Hey Steve, you know what we need to do? We need to implement more long range 2 point jumpers for Steph". Reaction would be priceless.

since when is 3-10 feet a long range 2 point jumper, or even a mid range jumper :biggums:

[julizaver]

He is just entering his prime - so if he is not already the GOAT shooter, from what I have see he is on the way ... Let's wish the man health and enjoy his career. He is a fresh air to the league right now.

[Straight_Ballin]

Alright, we're done. You don't understand how the game works and I'm not going to be the one to explain it to you. Maybe your dad will once you hit your 14th birthday :confusedshrug:

If you can't comprehend shooting 50% instead of 20% from anywhere on the court makes you a better player, then I think you should just forget how to turn on your computer.

lol kid thinks shooting 20% is just as good as shooting at 50%? Do they teach math to kids these days?

[ILLsmak]

I think you can't really go wrong with either, but Steph has the slight edge. When either of those guys shoot a quick 3 with moderate space, you expect a basket.

depends on the situation. In the clutch, game 7 etc... I dunno, I'd probably take Durant. If they were the same height, same position, I'd take Curry.

But as said, this is a dumb thread. Curry isn't the GOAT shooter yet because you need to do it for awhile. But he's on the list, he has that potential.

I always thought Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was one of the best shooters ever and he didn't shoot a good percentage. But he was deadly at getting quick shots and getting hot. Curry is like Abdul-Rauf but on more volume and more efficient and that's saying something.

-Smak