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3ball
05-25-2015, 08:36 AM
http://i.imgur.com/1euOqXT.gif


Other than the hands-off perimeter defense, Lebron finally gives us a whiff of the Jordan STANDARD:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/826bdbe7a8d3903715cbaef1f0590219.gif


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ab09da63e868ab9c9119a5eb1b536b58.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_over_Drexler_5a3411aa88633318670558bc6a82e9 ed.gif

Lebron23
05-25-2015, 09:17 AM
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Michael%20Jordan/Humiliation/1997gameno4.jpg

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 09:18 AM
Look at that shitty defense in the 90's. Lebron >>>>

Prometheus
05-25-2015, 09:43 AM
OP posted my exact thoughts when watching that dunk. It's easily LeBron's best two-foot dunk ever.

andgar923
05-25-2015, 09:57 AM
Look at that shitty defense in the 90's. Lebron >>>>

You must've been completely ducking my posts during the game thread.

Almost every Bron possession was an iso or one on one with open lanes on almost all of them. Poor rotations that are even more useless considering the 'no contact' rules.

MJ would've obliterated the Hawks' defense and had a few dunks in the process.

James simply isn't MJ's equal offensive wise (not remotely close).

Straight_Ballin
05-25-2015, 10:08 AM
You must've been completely ducking my posts during the game thread.

Almost every Bron possession was an iso or one on one with open lanes on almost all of them. Poor rotations that are even more useless considering the 'no contact' rules.

MJ would've obliterated the Hawks' defense and had a few dunks in the process.

James simply isn't MJ's equal offensive wise (not remotely close).

No one with an active sex life thinks that Bron is anywhere close to MJ.

Why is is so hard for tards to accept that their generations best is inferior to a previous generations best?

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 10:10 AM
You must've been completely ducking my posts during the game thread.

Almost every Bron possession was an iso or one on one with open lanes on almost all of them. Poor rotations that are even more useless considering the 'no contact' rules.

MJ would've obliterated the Hawks' defense and had a few dunks in the process.

James simply isn't MJ's equal offensive wise (not remotely close).
Nope. Lebron would have shit on the 90's. That shitty ass era :oldlol:

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 10:10 AM
No one with an active sex life thinks that Bron is anywhere close to MJ.

Why is is so hard for tards to accept that their generations best is inferior to a previous generations best?
Your dumbass thinks Dell Curry is better than Stephen Curry. Shut your old ass up

Straight_Ballin
05-25-2015, 10:18 AM
Your dumbass thinks Dell Curry is better than Stephen Curry. Shut your old ass up

I believe I said that Dell Curry is responsible for Steph Curry being good. Anyone that disagrees has a mother that should have swallowed.

andgar923
05-25-2015, 10:22 AM
Nope. Lebron would have shit on the 90's. That shitty ass era :oldlol:

No he wouldn't have.

He was isolated on almost every possession and yet he couldn't finish.

He's slow compared to MJ.

He's not explosive compared to MJ.

Can't even jump properly on layups. There was at least 3 layup attempts after the 3rd quarter that made me :facepalm

Sure that dunk was nice, but MJ would've had at least 4 dunks vs that defense last night.

Shit... Bron can't even play off the ball. His game is very predictable and static.

He isolates on the left block and he'll spin to the hoop.
If he's on the right side, he'll either drive or shoot.

That's his game in a nutshell.

MJ would kill you from anywhere and everywhere. Far more versatile than Bron, more dangerous from every angle and certainly nowhere as predictable. There was at least 3 plays in which the defender knew exactly what Bron was gonna do and beat him. If Bron played in the 90s, his stats would decline noticeably and he wouldn't be the same player he is now.

3ball
05-25-2015, 10:25 AM
Nope. Lebron would have shit on the 90's. That shitty ass era :oldlol:


Riiiight...

These Atlanta Hawks are way tougher than the Bad Boys, 90's Knicks, the 3-all-star 1989 Cavs (plus Ron Harper and Hot Rod), or Shaq and Penny's 1996 Magic.. :rolleyes:

Straight_Ballin
05-25-2015, 10:34 AM
Riiiight...

These Atlanta Hawks are way tougher than the Bad Boys, 90's Knicks, the 3-all-star 1989 Cavs (plus Ron Harper and Hot Rod), or Shaq and Penny's 1996 Magic.. :rolleyes:

Ignore Jameer. Best player he's ever seen is Lebron which isn't saying much.

3ball
05-25-2015, 10:34 AM
No he wouldn't have.

He was isolated on almost every possession and yet he couldn't finish.

He's slow compared to MJ.

He's not explosive compared to MJ.

Can't even jump properly on layups. There was at least 3 layup attempts after the 3rd quarter that made me :facepalm

Sure that dunk was nice, but MJ would've had at least 4 dunks vs that defense last night.

Shit... Bron can't even play off the ball. His game is very predictable and static.

He isolates on the left block and he'll spin to the hoop.
If he's on the right side, he'll either drive or shoot.

That's his game in a nutshell.

MJ would kill you from anywhere and everywhere. Far more versatile than Bron, more dangerous from every angle and certainly nowhere as predictable. There was at least 3 plays in which the defender knew exactly what Bron was gonna do and beat him. If Bron played in the 90s, his stats would decline noticeably and he wouldn't be the same player he is now.



Agreed.. and a 1-off doesn't compare to a STANDARD.. :confusedshrug:


http://i.imgur.com/d8naPN0.gif


Plenty more where that came from.. :pimp:

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 10:37 AM
No he wouldn't have.

He was isolated on almost every possession and yet he couldn't finish.

He's slow compared to MJ.

He's not explosive compared to MJ.

Can't even jump properly on layups. There was at least 3 layup attempts after the 3rd quarter that made me :facepalm

Sure that dunk was nice, but MJ would've had at least 4 dunks vs that defense last night.

Shit... Bron can't even play off the ball. His game is very predictable and static.

He isolates on the left block and he'll spin to the hoop.
If he's on the right side, he'll either drive or shoot.

That's his game in a nutshell.

MJ would kill you from anywhere and everywhere. Far more versatile than Bron, more dangerous from every angle and certainly nowhere as predictable. There was at least 3 plays in which the defender knew exactly what Bron was gonna do and beat him. If Bron played in the 90s, his stats would decline noticeably and he wouldn't be the same player he is now.
So because he had a game last night where he had trouble finishing he's terrible?
MJ = 1-9 without stacked teams. Next.

andgar923
05-25-2015, 10:39 AM
Shit... Bron was holding the ball for about 8 seconds per possession.

Slowly dribbling and getting possession without much opposition, rarely a double, rarely a trap, just one on one and isolations. It was like a f*ckin street ball game out there.

MJ would've been doubled within 2 seconds half the time. And no way is he getting position that easily.

andgar923
05-25-2015, 10:43 AM
So because he had a game last night where he had trouble finishing he's terrible?
MJ = 1-9 without stacked teams. Next.

Last night?

Some of us have been stating this for YEARS!

Last night was just the most recent example.

Every player has bad shooting nights. This isn't about his shooting as it is more about his game as a whole and the shitty defense he plays against.

VengefulAngel
05-25-2015, 11:06 AM
Thanks for providing evidence Lebron is clearly the better two foot dunker.

Dro
05-25-2015, 11:11 AM
I wanted to see a gif of that. Very nice dunk....No comment on the MJ gifs as those are a given...

Why are you guys arguing with Jameer? Isn't he like 10 years old? Isn't Anthony Davis the best player he's ever seen?

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 11:14 AM
Last night?

Some of us have been stating this for YEARS!

Last night was just the most recent example.

Every player has bad shooting nights. This isn't about his shooting as it is more about his game as a whole and the shitty defense he plays against.
You've been stating it for years and you've been wrong for years. I've been exposing you for years too.

3ball
05-25-2015, 11:21 AM
No comment on the MJ gifs as those are a given...



Very true... I can't lie... :facepalm

Full disclosure: I have about 35 more of these, where MJ dunks over multiple contesting defenders.


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/76e91fd8653879054f186b5fcd8f8cb6.gif

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 11:24 AM
I wanted to see a gif of that. Very nice dunk....No comment on the MJ gifs as those are a given...

Why are you guys arguing with Jameer? Isn't he like 10 years old? Isn't Anthony Davis the best player he's ever seen?
Keep running that mouth and you might have my fist down your throat :oldlol:

3ball
05-25-2015, 03:55 PM
Thanks for providing evidence Lebron is clearly the better two foot dunker.


:sleeping


GIF's OF OVER 100 CHEST-TO-CHEST POSTERS BY MICHAEL JORDAN


Random Posters 1 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10508118&postcount=237)

Random Posters 2 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10512996&postcount=255)

Random Posters 3 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10487292&postcount=48)

Random Posters 4 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10494322&postcount=198)

Random Posters 5 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10513143&postcount=256)

Random Posters 6 (for 6) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10273035&postcount=86)

Two-Handed Posters Part 1 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10441991&postcount=40)

Two Handed Posters Part 2 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11087756&postcount=11)

Old-Man Chest-to-Chest Posters (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10512074&postcount=27)

Top 15 MJ Dunks Over Multiple Contesting Defenders (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40414797#p40414797)

Partial Collection of MJ Dunks Over All-Time Great Centers (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40382395#p40382395)
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Relinquish
05-25-2015, 03:57 PM
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Michael%20Jordan/Humiliation/1997gameno4.jpg

4-15, 23 points

Harden-esque :bowdown:

Jameerthefear
05-25-2015, 03:58 PM
Jordan exposed

navy
05-25-2015, 04:00 PM
Im not sure what the obsession with 2 foot dunks are...

3ball
05-25-2015, 05:29 PM
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7e73a5105b77725d4d7c47736486d0b9.gif


Im not sure what the obsession with 2 foot dunks are...




If LeBron was a better two-foot leaper, than he'd execute last night's poster much more often.. It wouldn't be just a one-off.. It would be his STANDARD, like it was for MJ:


MJ Posters over Fellow Stars


Dr. J (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10948485&postcount=237)

Clyde Drexler (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10695321&postcount=8)

Dominique Wilkins (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10744903&postcount=25)

James Worthy (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10797468&postcount=73)

Charles Barkley (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10961390&postcount=32)

Patrick Ewing (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10797340&postcount=60)

Alonzo Mourning (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10937420&postcount=173)

David Robinson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10933714&postcount=108)

Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10931187&postcount=85)

Larry Nance (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10448259&postcount=13)

Tim Duncan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11066831&postcount=77)

Larry Bird, Shaq, Sidney Moncrief, Jermaine O'Neal, Shawn Kemp (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10959678&postcount=16)



Over 100 chest-to-chest posters for MJ: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353826
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MP.Trey
05-25-2015, 05:42 PM
The one where he murdered Damon Jones >>>

dubeta
05-25-2015, 05:44 PM
Lebron > Jordan in 2 leg chest-to-chests

Prometheus
05-25-2015, 06:00 PM
Two-footed dunks are superior as an offensive weapon because they are less predictable. If you dunk off of one foot, you do so in stride, and your timing is linear. A two-foot dunk requires a plant and spring, which may be executed at any point while attacking the basket.

LeBron mostly dunks off of one foot, and his timing is therefore usually very predictable.

dubeta
05-25-2015, 06:03 PM
Two-footed dunks are superior as an offensive weapon because they are less predictable. If you dunk off of one foot, you do so in stride, and your timing is linear. A two-foot dunk requires a plant and spring, which may be executed at any point while attacking the basket.

LeBron mostly dunks off of one foot, and his timing is therefore usually very predictable.

Thats just your opinion

One leg leaping is better in some instances. It is quicker to pull off in the fast-break, than gathering for a two foot takeoff. Easier scoring opportunities in transition.

Also greatly aids in chase-down blocking (dont have to gather)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62sVb8_OcNc


There are pluses and minuses in both types leaping.

3ball
05-25-2015, 06:38 PM
One leg leaping is better in some instances.

There are pluses and minuses in both types leaping.



Makes no difference... MJ was GOAT at 1-foot leaping too:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ed34bb98401bb69ad56a198f948f25b5.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_Cradle_From_Almost_FT_L_be1e0eee2d4613049ae 82e8600cc58c1.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_blow_by_top_of_key_onel_490c5e03db1d84f2307 e90c67741085f.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/919b363305d3199f4c450c8c41f36c01.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/11db85ca30f8e0ecaebec27be6a98090.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ea1c7e53f83495db3c80c5346f2da98c.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/538ef229459a981e5c8f278536a17ec7.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/04cb29c7576454de2726a70c31eea782.gif


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/df58bbc9c88c6283fbd002f868828caf.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_over_two_Cavs_off_one_l_ac9f3c63a41771b9ff7 19d47a152bebb.gif

dubeta
05-25-2015, 06:44 PM
Makes no difference... MJ was elite at both - 2-foot and 1-foot leaping:




LOL MJ's max vert is 39"

http://wallfoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Michael-Jordan-Dunk-77.jpg

LeBron is 46"

https://nbaobserver.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/bronrimlevel1.jpg





Heck, even Kevin Love has a max vert of 35"

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kevin-Love-1062/



Therefore, Jordans max vert is closer to Kevin Love's than LeBron



Jordan had Kevin Love type athleticism, nothing special, but great for the watered down 80's.

plowking
05-25-2015, 06:45 PM
MJ would've obliterated the Hawks' defense

How badly do you think?

Something to the effect of 33/12/10 while sweeping?

That'd be pretty impressive wouldn't it?

Prometheus
05-25-2015, 06:47 PM
Two-footed dunks are superior as an offensive weapon in a half court set because they are less predictable. If you dunk off of one foot, you do so in stride, and your timing is linear. A two-foot dunk requires a plant and spring, which may be executed at any point while attacking the basket.

LeBron mostly dunks off of one foot, and his timing is therefore usually very predictable.

... better?

dubeta
05-25-2015, 06:52 PM
Two-footed dunks are superior as an offensive weapon in a half court set because they are less predictable. If you dunk off of one foot, you do so in stride, and your timing is linear. A two-foot dunk requires a plant and spring, which may be executed at any point while attacking the basket.

LeBron mostly dunks off of one foot, and his timing is therefore usually very predictable.

... better?


True but its a tradeoff, would you rather be a better two-foot leaper, or jump half- a foot higher since LeBron has a 6" vertical advantage with his already present height and reach advantage over MJ. Most of the elite leapers (James White, Zach Lavine) are one foot leapers.


Depends what you prefer, however LeBron did make 80% of his paint shots in the 2013 season (better than Prime Shaq) so obviously the timing issue with one leg takeoffs doesnt seem to be a big deal.

04mzwach
05-25-2015, 06:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1euOqXT.gif


Other than the hands-off perimeter defense, Lebron finally gives us a whiff of the Jordan STANDARD:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/826bdbe7a8d3903715cbaef1f0590219.gif


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ab09da63e868ab9c9119a5eb1b536b58.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_over_Drexler_5a3411aa88633318670558bc6a82e9 ed.gif
https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oEdv3Kaa2AFuw0PUA/200.gif

3ball
05-25-2015, 07:09 PM
How badly do you think?

Something to the effect of 33/12/10 while sweeping?

That'd be pretty impressive wouldn't it?


MJ's averaged over 40 PPG in playoff series 6 times in his career - no other player has done it more than once.

So he'd get 40 PPG on 50% shooting - that's what he did to the loaded, 57-win Cavaliers in 1989 when they had 3 all-stars, plus ron harper and hot rod, while sporting the league's 2nd ranked defense.

And those Cavs were like every other team at the time - they didn't shoot three-pointers or use weakside floor-spreaders to take defenders away from the strongside - so MJ faced strongsides that were already flooded with all 5 defenders (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11128077&postcount=21).

But against the Hawks, weakside floor-spreaders would draw defenders away from the strongside, so MJ would usually face strongsides with only 1 defender, JUST LIKE LEBRON DOES (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377327)... So MJ would have a field day - it would be quite amazing... He'd likely break Jerry West's single series playoff scoring record (46 PPG).

julizaver
05-26-2015, 09:41 AM
If LeBron was a better two-foot leaper, than he'd execute last night's poster much more often.. It wouldn't be just a one-off.. It would be his STANDARD, like it was for MJ:


MJ Posters over Fellow Stars


Dr. J (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10948485&postcount=237)

Clyde Drexler (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10695321&postcount=8)

Dominique Wilkins (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10744903&postcount=25)

James Worthy (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10797468&postcount=73)

Charles Barkley (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10961390&postcount=32)

Patrick Ewing (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10797340&postcount=60)

Alonzo Mourning (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10937420&postcount=173)

David Robinson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10933714&postcount=108)

Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10931187&postcount=85)

Larry Nance (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10448259&postcount=13)

Tim Duncan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11066831&postcount=77)

Larry Bird, Shaq, Sidney Moncrief, Jermaine O'Neal, Shawn Kemp (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10959678&postcount=16)



Over 100 chest-to-chest posters for MJ: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353826
.

Aside from some things (agenda threads/posts) I like your collection of gifs, I mean MJ is probably one of the most watchable athletes, and his plays are always joy to watch.

He is the best player I have watched/witnessed and I am glad that I have that opportunity. It is really funny as some posters, who never witness MJ play during 80s and 90s (forget about his Wizzards days) try to convince basketball audience that Kobe > Jordan bringing some stupid out of nothing argument.
I have stated many times here - Kobe vs Jordan is not even debatable for those around 35 and more. I have players like Magic, Lebron higher than Kobe.

About the topic - I am not sure that exactly this is the greatest two-foor dunk by Lebron, although that dunk is awesome. In his first stay with Cavs he had at least several more spectacular two-foot dunks, but no time to search the net about it.

Anyway LBJ will not be remembered for his two-foot dunks and it seems that his two-foot jump is not on par with his one-leg jump, where he is among the best. The opposite with D.Wilkins, who was best known for his two-foot dunks and very very rare dunk the ball from one leg.

StrongLurk
05-26-2015, 07:13 PM
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Michael%20Jordan/Humiliation/1997gameno4.jpg

KG GIF intensifies

Leftimage
05-26-2015, 08:25 PM
Makes no difference... MJ was GOAT at 1-foot leaping too:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ed34bb98401bb69ad56a198f948f25b5.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_Cradle_From_Almost_FT_L_be1e0eee2d4613049ae 82e8600cc58c1.gif




Nice montage but imo this really highlights Lebron's insane hops more than anything else. He may not be a 'glider' quite like MJ but the dude gets way more inches on the lift. Jordan's arm is raised upwards when the ball goes through. Lebron's arm is literally parallel with the rim for most dunks. The height difference doesn't account for it alone.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/heat/images/131220-jamesdunk.gif

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/lebron11.gif?w=1000

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2182789/lbjallstar.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nLRyVk3Bj-w/UrlN6a5zYoI/AAAAAAAAAd0/TEhjRiROKFg/s400/LeBron+James+over+Paul+Milsap.gif

head just misses the rim everytime... and this isnt even young lebron. He truly is the king of the one-footed dunk among his peers AND past players.