Lebron James 2015 playoff's = 42%fg's , 16% threes with 5 T.O's per game

[kennethgriffin]

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where is your analytic god now?

[sd3035]

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where is your analytic god now?

His team isn't stacked and the East is a murderer's row of title contenders though

:roll:

[SexSymbol]

His team isn't stacked and the East is a murderer's row of title contenders though

:roll:

His team is stacked, he played like shit in half the games and they still win comfortably.
:applause:

[kennethgriffin]

His team is stacked, he played like shit in half the games and they still win comfortably.
:applause:


this ^

it would be impressive if lebron played well and they made the finals without love or kyrie

but lebrons been ass the entire playoffs



that proves the east is a joke.. its like the cavs did everything they could to lose and still swept the hawks

[BigBoss]

LeBald asserting his greatness.

[sd3035]

Also his entire body is severely injured, courageous effort :applause:

[HomieWeMajor]

Labron James

[DMAVS41]

Why the hell can't we just tell it like it is?

That Lebron, in spots, has been magnificent...but overall is not playing great basketball.

And that the reason the Cavs are an absurd 11-2 in the playoffs is because the East is even more of a joke than we all thought.

[pastis]

cmon kenneth. of course the east is a joke compared to the west. imagine, next year okc with durant and okc....dallas will be a lottery team but in the east probably playing for the #1 or #2 seed. but it is what it is.

but you CANT DENY that lebrons performance was just very good....it was the dominance of his will...he had some bad shooting performances, so does have kobe, dirk, duncan, garnett, wade, curry, westbrook, harden, even durant....

he played great so far. just respect it. last game was phenomenal. im not saying that he played great overall in the plaoffs and im not saying that his same effort would result in wins in the west...but still. yesterday was just great.

[Fudge]

why that ***** look like a thumb?

[rzp]

Kobe's numbers :applause:

except for the abismal reb/assist diference (i dont even care to check it, every1 knows)

LeGoat gonna LeGoat

[tmacattack33]

You forgot the 10.5 rebounds and 8.4 assists per game.

And also didn't mention Lebron's two game winners over these playoffs.

[kennethgriffin]

You forgot the 10.5 rebounds and 8.4 assists per game.

And also didn't mention Lebron's two game winners over these playoffs.


wait... theres more to the game than efficiency?

i thought lebron fans discounted all of kobes stats cause he didnt shoot over 50%fgs

:lol

like the 2010 finals game 7 when kobe had like 24/15 or some shit... it didnt count cause he shot poorly

wait what?

[Rocketswin2013]

This is the worst I've ever seen him. He's still really good but it's possible to overrate him at this point.

[Kblaze8855]

Id like to see someone put up the 28/11/8/2 steals/block a game on the poor shooting hes doing and see what the story would be over the course of a season.

Im not sure how ISH would react to such a thing. Im thinking that player would win MVP if they had the weak supporting cast Lebron does minus Kyrie/Love...and won 50ish games...but im not sure.

Be kinda like Westbrook during that "hot" streak I suppose.

Random 45/20 games....a few 7/29 games as well.

Be interesting if nothing else.

[kennethgriffin]

Id like to see someone put up the 28/11/8/2 steals/block a game on the poor shooting hes doing and see what the story would be over the course of a season.

Im not sure how ISH would react to such a thing. Im thinking that player would win MVP if they had the weak supporting cast Lebron does minus Kyrie/Love...and won 50ish games...but im not sure.

Be kinda like Westbrook during that "hot" streak I suppose.

Random 45/20 games....a few 7/29 games as well.

Be interesting if nothing else.


i just find it funny using a lebron fans own gimmick to critique lebron

i could actually care less about the percentages...

my only beef is his competition


i just think its hilarious how his fans are boasting about his all time great playoff run while having the worst shooting performances of his career

i thought it was all about dem analytics

[tmacattack33]

wait... theres more to the game than efficiency?

i thought lebron fans discounted all of kobes stats cause he didnt shoot over 50%fgs

:lol

like the 2010 finals game 7 when kobe had like 24/15/4 or some shit... it didnt count cause he shot poorly

wait what?

15 rebounds and 2 assists does not remotely resemble 18 rebounds and 13 assists

(not to mention, 6/24 (25%) does not remotely resemble 14/37 (38%))

[rule1223]

wait... theres more to the game than efficiency?

i thought lebron fans discounted all of kobes stats cause he didnt shoot over 50%fgs

:lol

like the 2010 finals game 7 when kobe had like 24/15 or some shit... it didnt count cause he shot poorly

wait what?
lmao lebron stans like 6/24, no one cares that he grabbed 15 boards or contributed to basically every basket at the end of the game to win it, the only thing that matters is efficiency even if u get destroyed in the finals

[DonDadda59]

LeBron Ball giveth, LeBron Ball taketh away.

[ballin33]

While he's still a monster and the best player, I think the efficiency drop is due to loss in athleticism. He just doesn't have the same speed or quickness to create easy looks he's used to getting in years past.

[SexSymbol]

While he's still a monster and the best player, I think the efficiency drop is due to loss in athleticism. He just doesn't have the same speed or quickness to create easy looks he's used to getting in years past.
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[Rooster]

Why the hell can't we just tell it like it is?

That Lebron, in spots, has been magnificent...but overall is not playing great basketball.

And that the reason the Cavs are an absurd 11-2 in the playoffs is because the East is even more of a joke than we all thought.

I don't think Cavs would survived the first round in the West even with complete lineup. Mavs would have mopped the floor in the East too.

[kennethgriffin]

15 rebounds and 2 assists does not remotely resemble 18 rebounds and 13 assists

(not to mention, 6/24 (25%) does not remotely resemble 14/37 (38%))

so thats the cut off?

18 rebounds + 13 assists = can shoot a bad percentage


ok... lebrons shot badly the entire playoffs though

:lol

[tmacattack33]

so thats the cut off?

18 rebounds + 13 assists = can shoot a bad percentage


ok... lebrons shot badly the entire playoffs though

:lol

Ok lets talk entire playoffs.

Lebron is shooting pretty poorly for the playoffs...42.4%. Yes.

And he is also averaging 10.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists (and 33 ppg). Which more than makes up for it.


Link me to a playoffs where kobe even came close to 10.5 reb and 8.5 assists per game...as a matter of fact, link me to a playoffs where ANYBODY averaged something like that.

[DMAVS41]

Ok lets talk entire playoffs.

Lebron is shooting pretty poorly for the playoffs...42.4%. Yes.

And he is also averaging 10.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists (and 33 ppg). Which more than makes up for it.


Link me to a playoffs where kobe even came close to 10.5 reb and 8.5 assists per game...as a matter of fact, link me to a playoffs where ANYBODY averaged something like that.

What does this have to do with Kobe?

We are all in agreement that Lebron is playing good basketball overall...and has been fantastic in certain spots.

But we also should be able to talk about his horrid range shooting and the fact that he has a large margin for error against these scrub East teams.

Again...it's everything.

He's playing very well overall despite shooting like shit...and he's getting nice help from his teammates stepping up...and he's playing joke teams.

[J Shuttlesworth]

LeBron is the only player to average 25/8/10 throughout the playoffs, and he has actually scoring 28 a game right now. Him and Bird are the only players to average 25/9/7 in a playoff run. LeBron - 09, 10, 15 Bird - 86, 87

Not an efficient scoring postseason for him, but he's making it for it in a lot of ways.

[jlip]

Ok lets talk entire playoffs.

Lebron is shooting pretty poorly for the playoffs...42.4%. Yes.

And he is also averaging 10.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists (and 33 ppg). Which more than makes up for it.


Link me to a playoffs where kobe even came close to 10.5 reb and 8.5 assists per game...as a matter of fact, link me to a playoffs where ANYBODY averaged something like that.

Magic and Bird a few times.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Magic and Bird a few times.
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[jlip]

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:applause:

Magic has had a few ~20+/8/11 (pts/rbs/asts) playoff runs.

[Mr Feeny]

:applause:

Magic has had a few ~20+/8/11 (pts/rbs/asts) playoff runs.

Care to find a link?

[J Shuttlesworth]

:applause:

Magic has had a few ~20+/8/11 (pts/rbs/asts) playoff runs.
Yeah you're right. If it's over 25 ppg, it's only Bron/Bird
Magic had 21/7/15 playoffs :eek: and a couple more 20/5/10 runs :applause:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Care to find a link?
http://i.imgur.com/7fk2FT6.png

[Mr Feeny]

Yeah you're right. If it's over 25 ppg, it's only Bron/Bird
Magic had 21/7/15 playoffs :eek: and a couple more 20/5/10 runs :applause:

Has anyone ever has 28, 9, 7 in a run?

[Mr Feeny]

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Thx.

[Lebron23]

It's actually 42.4 FG%. Why do the Kobe Family value FG% right now?? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Im thinking that player would win MVP if they had the weak supporting cast Lebron does minus Kyrie/Love

LeBron's cast may be weak on paper, but they have been playing extremely well in these play offs. Their defense has been insane. Also, relative to competition (the East), his team isn't really weak.

[Magic 32]

It's actually 42.4 FG%. Why do the Lebron Family devalue FG% right now?? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

fixed

[DMAVS41]

LeBron's cast may be weak on paper, but they have been playing extremely well in these play offs. Their defense has been insane. Also, relative to competition (the East), his team isn't really weak.

This.

Now, Lebron of course has something to do with getting a lot out of his teammates, but Mozgov, Thompson, Smith, and Shump are all playing very well so far in the playoffs.

If they were in the West...that wouldn't be much help, but who in the East has more help? Who has a better team?

There is no other superstar player in the East. And you need superstars to win. Like seriously...who is the 2nd best player in the East? It's probably Kyrie and he's on Lebron's team.

LOL...of the 12 players getting MVP votes...11 of them were in the West.

[navy]

Lebron is playing well enough to win. But he is shooting rather terrible. It's quite an odd conundrum.

Take the last game, he started 0-10 but he had a few misses consecutive misses at the rim. The stat sheet shows that those are misses but they arent wasted possessions so the Cavs had a crazy amount of offensive rebounds and lots of missed shots. That doesnt hurt a team that much but the Cavs didnt win that quarter.

Then Lebron has quarters where he absolutely dominates. So he can get away with being bad for stretches.

It's an up and down the thing. The overall impact is positive. But he is clearly hurting his team in stretches. How many quarters have the Cavs won where Lebron played bad? Not many if any. Which is why I say efficiency does matter. Luckily Lebron goes on enough tears to balance out the bad.

If it works vs golden state, just gotta tip your hat. If it doesnt he's gotta take some blame assuming that he continues to shoot poorly.

Also you gotta tip your hand to the role players. These guys were all written off and have zero expectations and keep playing well enough to get it done. Go back and look at the trades when they happened. Iman Shumpert and Jr Smith written off as losers, Mozgov said to not be a true rim protector or difference maker, Tristan Thompson thought to be useless. Delly? Haha, I still think he's a scrub.