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selrahc
05-25-2015, 08:45 PM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady. He has pretty much had a super stacked team every year since he was drafted.

Done_And_Done
05-25-2015, 08:48 PM
Don't buy into the bullshit around here man. No sense in playing the game. It'll get you nowhere.

Lebron has played with some pretty stacked teams.
Lebron is also an extremely great player.


Done and Done

inclinerator
05-25-2015, 08:51 PM
remove that avatar

Alamо
05-25-2015, 08:51 PM
Pretty much everybody in the top 10 except Hakeem had a stacked team at some point in their career :confusedshrug:

SouBeachTalents
05-25-2015, 08:52 PM
Pretty much everybody in the top 10 except Hakeem had a stacked team at some point in their career.

/thread

the_troof
05-25-2015, 08:53 PM
Stephen Carry'd

FLDFSU
05-25-2015, 08:56 PM
Don't buy into the bullshit around here man. No sense in playing the game. It'll get you nowhere.

Lebron has played with some pretty stacked teams.
Lebron is also an extremely great player.


Done and Done

Stacked teams should be able to get to playoffs or at least have winning records minus said player.

I believed the Lebron played on his first team in 2014 that had a positive plus/minus without him on the court...

That does not scream "stacked teams" unless we are now claiming that "stacked" teams must include Lebron James when considering their "stackness" which is the most retarded thing I have heard in a long time.

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2015, 08:57 PM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

Hey Yo
05-25-2015, 08:58 PM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady. He has pretty much had a super stacked team every year since he was drafted.
This thread and above post may be the worst attempt at trolling I've ever seen.

1~Gibson~1
05-25-2015, 09:00 PM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady. He has pretty much had a super stacked team every year since he was drafted.List of players on stacked teams:

Chauncey Billups' Pistons
Michael Jordan's Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
Kevin's Celtics

I could name more, but the best team usually wins. Best teams usually have more talent also......... which is why they win. :oldlol:

ShawkFactory
05-25-2015, 09:00 PM
Yea dude. Any other player would DIE to have dellavadova, JR, and shumpert as their guys. Just ask Melo

FLDFSU
05-25-2015, 09:00 PM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

Don't you get it?

It has nothing to do with Lebron...it has to do with Big Z leaving along with Lebron in 2010 and James Jones leaving the Heat in 2014.

Bernkastel
05-25-2015, 09:00 PM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady.

A D- effort.

Prometheus
05-25-2015, 09:01 PM
LeBron James.

imdaman99
05-25-2015, 09:06 PM
Pretty much everybody in the top 10 except Hakeem had a stacked team at some point in their career :confusedshrug:
This. No one wins alone.

sd3035
05-25-2015, 09:07 PM
only 2* rings with all that stacking, ref help etc. absolutely pathetic

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2015, 09:19 PM
The hyperbole of Lebron having stacked teams has to stop

It's an exaggeration and ALOT of evidence points to this

How many of you are going to simply ignore this?

Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

edrick
05-25-2015, 09:21 PM
stacked teams make the playoffs (like the Bulls when MJ left) when Lebron leaves, which has yet to happen. Watch out for them stacks though. :roll:

Spurs5Rings2014
05-25-2015, 09:24 PM
The hyperbole of Lebron having stacked teams has to stop

It's an exaggeration and ALOT of evidence points to this

How many of you are going to simply ignore this?

Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

Other players left, injuries, tanking, etc. You already know all of this, though, and are just trolling.

:confusedshrug:

lebron06
05-25-2015, 09:29 PM
Lebron James

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2015, 09:34 PM
Other players left, injuries, tanking, etc. You already know all of this, though, and are just trolling.

:confusedshrug:
Alright lets break every single part down together why don't we?

G0ATbe
05-25-2015, 09:35 PM
MJ.

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2015, 09:39 PM
1. The cavs were already losing before any real injuries, and majority of the team was the same from the year before

2. The heat had injuries but they were still losing even when Bosh and Wade were healthy. They even got Deng, Dragic and Whiteside as well as a young and invigorated bench to replace Lebron leaving. Even with Wade healthy and all these three all-star level players... They still couldn't make the playoffs

3. Cavs went 1-9 when Lebron was injured. To say they were tanking? Ridiculous. This was a team with championship aspirations. Kevin Love took a bigger role along with Kyrie while Lebron was out... They went 1-9

Kingwillball
05-25-2015, 09:53 PM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????


Good post, should of closed thread with this.

buddha
05-25-2015, 09:54 PM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

that team lost LeBron, Mo Williams, Shaq, Ilgauskas, and the great Delonte West.

stfu lol

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2015, 10:02 PM
And those players have had great success without Lebron no?

edrick
05-25-2015, 10:18 PM
that team lost LeBron, Mo Williams, Shaq, Ilgauskas, and the great Delonte West.

stfu lol

:roll: Mo hasn't done shit. Shaq retired that year. ilgauskas retired a year later. West hasn't been in the league for years.

nashwade
05-26-2015, 12:17 AM
neh, the current Cavs or any Cavs were never stacked. credits go to Lebron.

Sportal
05-26-2015, 12:32 AM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady. He has pretty much had a super stacked team every year since he was drafted.

I'm sure you'll list all of his stacked teams and their players, right?

Then you can tell me where all of those players that made his team "stacked" are now in their careers.

bobeticus
05-26-2015, 12:36 AM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

Thread backfired...
/thread

Done_And_Done
05-26-2015, 12:49 AM
Stacked teams should be able to get to playoffs or at least have winning records minus said player.

I believed the Lebron played on his first team in 2014 that had a positive plus/minus without him on the court...

That does not scream "stacked teams" unless we are now claiming that "stacked" teams must include Lebron James when considering their "stackness" which is the most retarded thing I have heard in a long time.

1 player in the NBA can make an astronomical difference/impact like no other sport.

Lebron = Superstar
Wade = Superstar
Bosh = Top tier PF (star)

He played with a stacked cast in Miami (especially in the first 3 years) no matter how you try to spin it.

SouBeachTalents
05-26-2015, 12:59 AM
1 player in the NBA can make an astronomical difference/impact like no other sport.

Lebron = Superstar
Wade = Superstar
Bosh = Top tier PF (star)

He played with a stacked cast in Miami (especially in the first 3 years) no matter how you try to spin it.

Quarterback is arguably just as important

FLDFSU
05-26-2015, 01:10 AM
:roll: Mo hasn't done shit. Shaq retired that year. ilgauskas retired a year later. West hasn't been in the league for years.

And also forgetting that Mo was on that team for the first 20 loses of their historic consecutive losing streak...then he was injured on lost 21 or so..

FLDFSU
05-26-2015, 01:14 AM
1 player in the NBA can make an astronomical difference/impact like no other sport.

Lebron = Superstar
Wade = Superstar
Bosh = Top tier PF (star)

He played with a stacked cast in Miami (especially in the first 3 years) no matter how you try to spin it.

Then that Superstar Wade should be able, when playing 62 games, be able to take his team to the playoffs "in the weakest conference of all time."

And once again, :roll: at including Lebron as part of his own help.

Cleverness
05-26-2015, 01:59 AM
LeBron has had the most stacked team in the league in at least 2-3 playing years for sure

2010-2011 Heat
2011-2012 Heat
2012-2013 Heat (arguably Durant's Thunder or Duncan's Spurs)
2014-2015 Cavs (arguably Stephen Curry's Warriors)

that's it guys.

retaxis
05-26-2015, 02:12 AM
Kobe had stacked team with shaq and fisher and PHIL for like six years. Then he stacked the decks from 08 to 13 with pau, bynum, howard, nash, artest, ariza etc so that's another five years. Kobe had a stacked team for 11 years and won 2FMVP. Lebron had it for 4 years if even that had won two FMVP. Give bron another seven years of great teams and he will end up with 5 to 6 FMVP

nzahir
05-26-2015, 02:32 AM
Pretty much everybody in the top 10 except Hakeem had a stacked team at some point in their career :confusedshrug:
Vernon maxwell, thorpe, horry, kenny smith, and guys like ellie in 1994 then they traded thorpe for clyde in 95.

Then he played with guys such as chuck and scottie even though both past primes. Dont tell me hakeem didnt have talent either; everyone who wins has talent, nobody has done it on there own and nobody will

KNOW1EDGE
05-26-2015, 02:47 AM
OP is right.

LeBron sucks. Every poster on ISH could beat him 1 on 1.
he only is good because he has ALWAYS played on absolutely stacked teams. Larry Hughes, Boobie Gibson, Mo Williams, Andy Verajao, Jr Smith etc etc etc

LeBron is the worst player in the nba. No gm would ever want him on their roster.

I<3NBA
05-26-2015, 03:15 AM
the addition of Lebron makes teams stacked.

6 for 24
05-26-2015, 03:36 AM
LeBron takes the easy way out by constantly teaming up with superstars like Tristan Thompson and Timofey Mozgov. I prefer my heroes to be of the Kobe Bryant mold; for example, Kobe Bryant. Remember 2012? In the pre-season everyone pencilled the Lakers in as the worst team in the NBA. It was the self-proclaimed Black Mamba and a bunch of minimum contract journeymen like Nash, Howard, Gasol, and Artest. Yet, by sheer willpower and shot volume, Kobe was able to carry them to a top seed (7th)... one of the great achievements in league history. Unfortunately LeBron's voodoo was at work that year and he saw to it that Kobe was maliciously injured just weeks before the inevitable championship. History can be cruel even to the great ones.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

Prometheus
05-26-2015, 03:52 AM
I prefer my heroes to be of the Kobe Bryant mold; for example, Kobe Bryant.

:lol

34-24 Footwork
05-26-2015, 03:58 AM
OKC/Warriors/Clippers/Pacers (2013) = stacked through draft and trades.


LeBron was sick of defeat and ran to another accomplished champion in wade because he couldn't get over the hump.

Subtle dIfference.

JebronLames
05-26-2015, 04:21 AM
1 player in the NBA can make an astronomical difference/impact like no other sport.

Lebron = Superstar
Wade = Superstar
Bosh = Top tier PF (star)

He played with a stacked cast in Miami (especially in the first 3 years) no matter how you try to spin it.
His supporting casts in miami are the most overrated of all time.

Wade's game doesn't complement lebron's. Bosh played out of position, so they never maximized his value as a player. He was forced to be mainly a defensive player since they had no big men. Bosh got hurt and then played hurt in 2012. Wade declined in the playoffs in 2012 because of his knee. Their 4th best player was battier. In 2013, wade was worse than 2012. They had a couple bad matchups for bosh in 2013. Battier declined significantly.

I would take this supporting cast even without love and irving over anything in miami because they all fit well. Tristan thompson this year has been more valuable to lebron than bosh any year, and more valuable than wade in 13-14.

SexSymbol
05-26-2015, 04:35 AM
Explain this OP

Cavs 66/62 wins

Lebron leaves

Cavs worst record in the league + record losing streak

Joins Miami, team wins at a 65+ win pace after a slow start due to chemistry issues

4 straight finals

Leaves Heat

Heat replace him with 3 all-star level players, and fresh new bench talent

Miami fails to record atleast 38 wins to make the playoffs

Lebron joins Cavs

After injuries and chemistry issues, Cavs winning at 65+ win pace

Cavs lost 1-9 when Lebron was out

????

I can explain all of that.

Cavs were bad the year lebron left, because many players left with him, varejao got injured early, Mo even said he doesn't have motivation to play, team was a mess from chemistry standpoint and injury ridden.
Of course he's going to win big in Miami with three franchise players on one team.
Miami would've made the playoffs easily, bosh missed half the season, Wade missed 1/4 of the season, deng was also injured quite a bit, yet they still were like four games out of the fourth seed.
Cavs are winning big because there's three franchise players on the cavs yet again with one of the most stacked teams ever alongside them.
LeBron's a great player, but he's picking best situations for him, not the toughest ones like ATGs do

KembaWalker
05-26-2015, 04:47 AM
List of players on stacked teams:

Chauncey Billups' Pistons
Michael Jordan's Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
Kevin's Celtics

I could name more, but the best team usually wins. Best teams usually have more talent also......... which is why they win. :oldlol:

04 Championship team stacked? :biggums:

pauk
05-26-2015, 05:00 AM
Doubt he is serious... "since draft"... lol...

As far as T-Mac goes, reality is if Lebron had one of those Tracy McGrady teams he would certainly have more than 2 championships by now.... can you imagine Lebron playing with simply only prime Yao Ming? Holy hell....

nashwade
05-26-2015, 06:09 AM
His supporting casts in miami are the most overrated of all time.

Wade's game doesn't complement lebron's. Bosh played out of position, so they never maximized his value as a player. He was forced to be mainly a defensive player since they had no big men. Bosh got hurt and then played hurt in 2012. Wade declined in the playoffs in 2012 because of his knee. Their 4th best player was battier. In 2013, wade was worse than 2012. They had a couple bad matchups for bosh in 2013. Battier declined significantly.

I would take this supporting cast even without love and irving over anything in miami because they all fit well. Tristan thompson this year has been more valuable to lebron than bosh any year, and more valuable than wade in 13-14.

James Jones on Miami did not even get meaningful playtime :lol

Yeah the same guy who starts on Cavs

r15mohd
05-26-2015, 08:33 AM
James Jones on Miami did not even get meaningful playtime :lol

Yeah the same guy who starts on Cavs


this is all on Spo, pretty much refused to put JJones on the court during the run in Miami. Lebron called Spo out on it too, saying he rather JJ out there as it fit his drive n kick game well--subliminal shot to Spo's game calling.

Lebron's recruiting got JJ to the Cavs, and they utilize his 3pt threat very well in games, and that's with gunners like KI, Smoover and even Shump on the squad. whether it's Blatt or Lebron assisting in the rotations, they're getting it right for the most part with all the injuries around.

TheBigVeto
05-26-2015, 08:38 AM
If it wasn't for all the stacked teams LeBron has played with he would just be another Tracy McGrady. He has pretty much had a super stacked team every year since he was drafted.

Magic Johnson.
Without an established GOAT like Kareem, he'd be another Chris Paul.

nathanjizzle
05-26-2015, 09:10 AM
lebron has played with

shaq
wade
bosh
irving
love
varejao
ray allen
antwan jamison
jr smith

compared another superstar in the east who stayed at home

joakim noah
loul deng
carlos boozer
pau gasol
butler
korver.

:roll:

JohnFreeman
05-26-2015, 09:11 AM
Rose sucks, we get it.

nathanjizzle
05-26-2015, 09:12 AM
Rose sucks, we get it.

you average 30 posts a day? thats just sad.

JohnFreeman
05-26-2015, 09:13 AM
you average 30 posts a day? thats just sad.
A post takes like 5 seconds, not exactly time consuming

ISHGoat
05-26-2015, 09:24 AM
Im a huge lebron ******ger but I will be objective. I think lebron's team was stacked in 11, and they woulda been equally stacked this year (without injuries). In 12, dwade visibly took a smaller role, as did bosh, but lebron picked them up and they adjusted to lebron ball. 13 was an extension of 12, and lebron ball still worked. In 14, everyone on the heat not named lebron fell off and that was why lebron left them, IMHO.

nathanjizzle
05-26-2015, 09:24 AM
A post takes like 5 seconds, not exactly time consuming

get a job you bum.

JohnFreeman
05-26-2015, 09:25 AM
get a job you bum.
My life is fantastic, don't worry about me boy.

r15mohd
05-26-2015, 09:33 AM
lebron has played with

shaq
wade
bosh
irving
love
varejao
ray allen
antwan jamison
jr smith

compared another superstar in the east who stayed at home

joakim noah
loul deng
carlos boozer
pau gasol
butler
korver.

:roll:

please use this reference of superstar lightly...it's been a good 4yrs since he's been remotely close this level.

and really, referencing grandpa Shaq as someone noteworthy during Lebron's campaign :facepalm



as others have mentioned, it's very uncommon that a title team is NOT stacked to some degree:

Showtime Lakers
80's Celtics
Isaiah Pistons
MJ Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
TD/Manu/TP
Cetics Big3 + Rondo
Kobe + 7ft front court Lakers
Heat's Big3


then there's all the non-title teams that have had stacked squads that couldn't finish the job in winning the ring:

2015 Clippers
2012 OKC
2015 Mavs
Lakers superteam of 2004
Lakers superteam of 2012
Heat 2011 and 2014
Nash and the Suns
Melo and the Nuggets
2006 Pistons
Malone/Stockton Jazz


both lists go on and on over the years and the stacked team rhetoric is pretty tired right now :rolleyes:

jzek
05-26-2015, 09:42 AM
Kobe

Shaq
Malone
Rice
Payton
Bynum
D12
Pau
Nash
etc.
etc.
etc.

Chrono90
05-26-2015, 10:17 AM
Prime wade and prime Bosh
Prime Irving and prime Love
East conference bring at its weakest in this era



All adds up. East is a joke. He was smart to stay in the East.

hiphopfan777
05-26-2015, 10:21 AM
LeBron's teammates are garbage. Irving and love had no playoffs without LeBron. Shumpert and smith were hot garbage in new York last place in conference until they rode LeBron's dick. Plus LeBron's garbage superstars irving and love are hurt and selfish b allhogs who never play any defense.

r15mohd
05-26-2015, 10:25 AM
Prime wade and prime Bosh
Prime Irving and prime Love
East conference bring at its weakest in this era



All adds up. East is a joke. He was smart to stay in the East.

certainly adds up...the West is so stacked however a beyond prime Spurs team + Kawhi has been the dominant team the past few years? :rolleyes:

aj1987
05-26-2015, 10:47 AM
lebron has played with

shaq
wade
bosh
irving
love
varejao
ray allen
antwan jamison
jr smith

compared another superstar in the east who stayed at home

joakim noah
loul deng
carlos boozer
pau gasol
butler
korver.

Sure, he did. Even after being cleared to play in the PO's.

:roll: :roll:

FLDFSU
05-26-2015, 11:40 AM
lebron has played with

shaq
wade
bosh
irving
love
varejao
ray allen
antwan jamison
jr smith

compared another superstar in the east who stayed at home

joakim noah
loul deng
carlos boozer
pau gasol
butler
korver.

:roll:

Yet the Bulls can consistently get to the playoffs without Rose, and the Cavs and Heat can't without Lebron...

3ball
05-26-2015, 12:33 PM
.
Kobe's 2006 Roster (D-League starting with 2nd guy):


Lamar Odom
Smush Parker
Chris Mihm
Brian Cook
Kwame Brown
Devean George
Luke Walton
Laron Profit


Lebron's 2007 Roster (solid top to bottom):


Larry Hughes
Zydrunas Illgauskas
Drew Gooden
Sasha Pavlovic
Donyell Marshall
Anderson Varejao
Daniel Gibson
Damon Jones
Eric Snow


Lebron's roster is a completely different caliber of players