Put Prime LeBron with the late 1980's and early 1990's Cavaliers

[Lebron23]

How many NBA titles??

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cleveland+Cavaliers+v+Atlanta+Hawks+Game+4+A7y9ZyP kHKol.jpg

http://www.cavstheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1987-1988.jpg

http://ext.pimg.tw/auoto32/1338108840-2086488112.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/cavaliers/nance_254_880101.jpg

http://nbahoopsonline.com/Articles/top160/photos/Daugherty.jpg

[Straight_Ballin]

Bron AND Mark Price on the same team? It's a fvcking dynasty. Remove craig ehlo's bitch ass. He couldn't even block Jordan.

[TheMan]

Best shot would be in 94, can't see them getting past the Bad Boys Pistons in the late 80s and Jordan would own LeBron's soul in the 90s. Fortunately for Bran, today's LEastern Conference basically gives him a free ticket to the Finals, where he is 2/5 and about to go 2/6.

[dubeta]

He'd go better than 1-9 that's for sure

[TheMan]

He'd go better than 1-9 that's for sure
:no:

Switch first, second and third year Bran with MJ on those Bulls and most likely he'd go 0-9 vs those Bucks and Celtics team. You're dumber than I think you already are if you really believe Bran beats those teams with the garbage those Bulls rosters had :facepalm

[dubeta]

:no:

Switch first, second and third year Bran with MJ on those Bulls and most likely he'd go 0-9 vs those Bucks and Celtics team. You're dumber than I think you already are if you really believe Bran beats those teams with the garbage those Bulls rosters had :facepalm


Damn you sound mad bruh, truth hurts doesn't it.


Jordan without Pippen- 1-9


Pippen without Jordan- 55 wins and rigged out of a championship

[nzahir]

Daughtery
Nance
Lebron
Ehlo
Price

All fit in pretty well; bigs in the paint, shooters on outside; they could compete with bulls maybe

[sportjames23]

He'd go better than 1-9 that's for sure


But wouldn't even get the chance for 2/5 doe. If Shawn Marion and Jason Terry can shake Lebron, MJ would have destroyed his soul.

[3ball]

Jordan without Pippen- 1-9

Pippen without Jordan- 55 wins and rigged out of a championship


the funny thing about it, is that if Phil had let pouty pippen get his way in Game 3 and ran that last play for Scottie instead of Kukoc, Bulls go down 0-3 and get swept in that series.. But he ran the play for Kukoc, and Kukoc hit the Ray Allen walk-off to make it 2-1 instead of 3-0:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NSpgbPcxoU

Bulls go down 3-0 without that shot.. Phil had wanted to use Scottie as a decoy on that play, rather than trust him with the last shot - it was genius really - that's the role Scottie always played so well alongside MJ and Phil knew not to change anything.. Just an intuitive gut feel that worked to perfection.. Kukoc hits the ray allen, and the Bulls get back in the series.

[L.Kizzle]

Daughtery
Nance
Lebron
Ehlo
Price

All fit in pretty well; bigs in the paint, shooters on outside; they could compete with bulls maybe
You forgetting Ron Harper.

[nzahir]

You forgetting Ron Harper.
I remember him past cleveland but never a great shooter, ehlo could shoot a bit better

[Rose'sACL]

They probably win it all in 88.

[Duncan21formvp]

Damn you sound mad bruh, truth hurts doesn't it.


Jordan without Pippen- 1-9


Pippen without Jordan- 55 wins and rigged out of a championship
In 1990 the Bulls without Pippen won game 4 on the road against Barkley's Sixers in a blowout despite Philly having a higher

SRS rating than the Bulls that year.
In 1997 the Bulls won game 5 of the ECF with Pippen playing 7 minutes.

Point is is that Jordan could win without Pippen, but you aren't beating all time great teams like the '86 Celtics or '87

Celtics without having a decent cast around you.

Bulls would have still probably been 1-9 against the 85 Bucks, 86 Celtics and 87 Celtics if you added Prime Pippen to those

Bulls teams.

1985 Milwaukee Bucks --> http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIL/1985.html

PTS/G: 110.9 (11th of 23) ? Opp PTS/G: 104.0 (1st of 23)
SRS: 6.70 (1st of 23) ? Pace: 99.7 (19th of 23)
Off Rtg: 110.5 (6th of 23) ? Def Rtg: 103.6 (2nd of 23)
Expected W-L: 58-24 (2nd of 23)

#1 SRS Rating, #1 Opp PPG and #2 in Defense and #2 in Expected Win Loss (and this against a Rookie MJ)


1986 Boston Celtics --> http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1986.html (top 5 team all time, arguably greatest team

ever)

PTS/G: 114.1 (8th of 23) ? Opp PTS/G: 104.7 (3rd of 23)
SRS: 9.06 (1st of 23) ? Pace: 101.2 (16th of 23)
Off Rtg: 111.8 (3rd of 23) ? Def Rtg: 102.6 (1st of 23)
Expected W-L: 63-19 (1st of 23)

#1 SRS Rating, #1 Def Rtg, #3 opp ppg, #1 Expected Win Loss (this against a 2nd year MJ who missed 64 games with a broken

foot.
Jordan set the playoff record on Bird and the C's with 63 and averaged the following on Bird and the C's.

MJ vs. Boston, 1986: 44 pts/6 reb/6 ast/51% FG


1987 Boston Celtics --> http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1987.html

PTS/G: 112.6 (6th of 23) ? Opp PTS/G: 106.0 (4th of 23)
SRS: 6.58 (3rd of 23) ? Pace: 98.6 (19th of 23)
Off Rtg: 113.5 (3rd of 23) ? Def Rtg: 106.8 (9th of 23)
Expected W-L: 57-25 (3rd of 23)

#3 SRS Rating, #4 Opp PPG. #3 Expected Win Loss. This is the only year you can say he had a chance to win a game or so.
But then again, one team had a triple allstar lineup in

Larry Bird
Kevin McHale
Robert Parish

And MJ was the only allstar on the squad.

MJ vs Boston, 1987: 36 pts/7 reb/6 ast/42% FG

Hell the 1987 Celtics would beat the 2011-2013 Miami Heat as well.


When Lebron got swept by the 2007 Spurs it was a similar type of team compared to the league, #1 SRS rating, Expected Win -

Loss, etc. The difference is that Lebron played like absolute trash while MJ at least still dominated.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-Worst



LeBron James, Cleveland, 2007
Cavs vs. Spurs -- James' PER 14.3
The King's first Finals visit wasn't a memorable one. Bruce Bowen hounded him into 35.6 percent shooting, and James

committed 5.8 turnovers per game as San Antonio swept the Cavs in four. It didn't help that he couldn't get a whistle as he

tried to draw a foul on a last-second 3-point try at the end of Game 3.

[Bandito]

He would've been beaten by the greatest player of all time in the 90's. Also by MJ. :kobe: