Zach Lowe: Cavs have been killing teams with lebron on the bench

[salwan]

:eek: how crazy is that? he just said this on his last podcast around the 7min mark.

Are there any open-source stats for that?

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron ball

He has psychic powers

No other way to explain it really

[salwan]

obviously, the sample is going to be small, but you have basically no shot vs the cavs, if you cant take advantage of lebron being out of the game.

props to the cavs. they are playing hard

[iamgine]

If Zach Lowe said what Zach Lowe said then what Zach Lowe said must be true at the time Zach Lowe said what Zach Lowe said.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Leadership. LeCoach :applause:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Basektball reference has the Cavs ORTG as +12.3 with LeBron on the floor during the season

Their ORTG in the playoffs is +0.8 with LeBron in the floor

The thing is when LeBron is off the floor, the bench has been performing pretty well. Dellavedova owned Rose, and the Bulls/Atlanta benches never really showed up.

[ProfessorMurder]

Not an exact quote, but he also said something like:

Houston with Harden is only a -1 in the series against the Warriors, and a -27 with him on the bench.

[StephHamann]

Not an exact quote, but he also said something like:

Houston with Harden is only a -1 in the series against the Warriors, and a -27 with him on the bench.

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Dafuq?
:oldlol:

[SpanishACB]

:eek: how crazy is that? he just said this on his last podcast around the 7min mark.

Are there any open-source stats for that?

david blatt

[Rose'sACL]

do people realize that the other team also rests some of their starters when lebron comes out? This is specially true for the spurs from pretty much all the game.

[Magic 32]

Leadership. LeCoach :applause:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScp01dHsMU&t=58m30s

[ILLsmak]

david blatt

pm me so we can talk about David Blatt.

-Smak

[NumberSix]

LeBron's brilliance.

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron has always been an excellent off-court passer

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron has always been an excellent off-court passer

:roll: :roll: :roll:

poast of the year

[KembaWalker]

#stacked #noexcuses #hashtag

[T_L_P]

Here are the actual numbers for the Playoffs:

2015 Cavs with LeBron on court: +9.2 pts

2015 Cavs with LeBron off court: +14.7 pts

On/Off of -5.5

Make of it what you will.

[RRR3]

LeCoach

[ISHGoat]

Here are the actual numbers for the Playoffs:

2015 Cavs with LeBron on court: +9.2 pts

2015 Cavs with LeBron off court: +14.7 pts

On/Off of -5.5

Make of it what you will.


it means lebron has tremendous on-court impact even when he is off the court

truly the goat

[T_L_P]

it means lebron has tremendous on-court impact even when he is off the court

truly the goat

Could say the exact same thing about almost anyone.

[Velocirap31]

So the Cavs have a better bench than the other team's bench. Cool.

[jayfan]

Better ball movement & fewer bricks?

:confusedshrug:



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[pegasus]

Better ball movement & fewer bricks?

:confusedshrug:



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Yup. They all shot like crazy except for Lebron. If he was passing to himself, he'd average 1 assist a game.

[imdaman99]

Let me be straight up with you guys. If a teams bench sucks, it's indicative on the stars of the team. Why do you ask? Because the stars of the team are the ones scrimmaging with these guys at practice. If you practice against the best players, you are bound to get better. If the stars are giving it their all in practice and embarrassing the bench/role players in practice, the bench should be good in the games against the other team's bench.

Does this make sense to anyone or am I reading too much into this? There's a reason that almost every championship team has 1 or 2 or 3 DEPENDABLE/VERY GOOD players coming off the bench. But you also can't turn a pile of crap into good playing players, but you can turn them into hard-nosed players that play D.

Much respect to Lebron turning all the scrubs on the Cavs into serviceable players :applause: No sarcasm.

[ArbitraryWater]

Let me be straight up with you guys. If a teams bench sucks, it's indicative on the stars of the team. Why do you ask? Because the stars of the team are the ones scrimmaging with these guys at practice. If you practice against the best players, you are bound to get better. If the stars are giving it their all in practice and embarrassing the bench/role players in practice, the bench should be good in the games against the other team's bench.

Does this make sense to anyone or am I reading too much into this? There's a reason that almost every championship team has 1 or 2 or 3 DEPENDABLE/VERY GOOD players coming off the bench. But you also can't turn a pile of crap into good playing players, but you can turn them into hard-nosed players that play D.

Much respect to Lebron turning all the scrubs on the Cavs into serviceable players :applause: No sarcasm.

I love you

[Raymone]

Here are the actual numbers for the Playoffs:

2015 Cavs with LeBron on court: +9.2 pts

2015 Cavs with LeBron off court: +14.7 pts

On/Off of -5.5

Make of it what you will.

Wow. They should bench LeBron more often. Only play him in the first quarter or something.

[Young X]

He's right, but its a small sample size. In 107 minutes Cleveland is +14.7 with him on the bench. They're +9.2 with him on the floor so they're killing teams regardless.

[JerrySeinfeld]

:biggums: Empty stats bran.

[ISHGoat]

Let me be straight up with you guys. If a teams bench sucks, it's indicative on the stars of the team. Why do you ask? Because the stars of the team are the ones scrimmaging with these guys at practice. If you practice against the best players, you are bound to get better. If the stars are giving it their all in practice and embarrassing the bench/role players in practice, the bench should be good in the games against the other team's bench.

Does this make sense to anyone or am I reading too much into this? There's a reason that almost every championship team has 1 or 2 or 3 DEPENDABLE/VERY GOOD players coming off the bench. But you also can't turn a pile of crap into good playing players, but you can turn them into hard-nosed players that play D.

Much respect to Lebron turning all the scrubs on the Cavs into serviceable players :applause: No sarcasm.

great objective post :cheers:

i agree with your unstated conclusion that lebron is GOAT

[TheMan]

Not surprised, it was frustrating as a Bulls fan to see our leads shrink or defecits get bigger while LeBron was on the bench :(