If LeBron goes 2/8 in the Finals and then fails to make them again...

[JerrySeinfeld]

Say LeBron loses this year, is 2/6 in the Finals, and makes it again next year but loses, is 2/7, repeats the process again for 2/8 and then the NBA reformats the playoffs to be just the top 16 teams and LeBron never makes the Finals again.

How would that affect his legacy? Would it push him out of the top 10 all time? Only winning his rings with Wade, underwhelming otherwise, failing to make it once the competition is leveled.

[inclinerator]

yes he would be around 10 or 11 if what u say happens

[Sakkreth]

If he loses this year he's 2/6.

[JerrySeinfeld]

If he loses this year he's 2/6.

yeah, thats what I meant. If he just makes it two years after this year, loses both, and then the reformat comes through.

will update the OP

[Lebron23]

It' won't happen Simon cause He's going to win his 3rd NBA Championship this year while Curry, Durant, and Westbrook would be ringless.

[kennethgriffin]

It' won't happen Simon cause He's going to win his 3rd NBA Championship this year while Curry, Durant, and Westbrook would be ringless.



There really are some delusional sons of bitches out there


The warriors are by god damn far and away the best team and they have home court advantage

[JerrySeinfeld]

LMAO. Nothing LeBron stans love more than to compare his success at age 30 to the success of guys who are 25-26 years old and have all proven themselves just as much if not more in the PO's than LeBron at the same age.

At this age, Durant has one finals loss but his stats were great. LeBron at the same age had one bad finals performance and then one all time bad choking finals performance

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Hes already top 10. Around 8-9

[Lebron23]

There really are some delusional sons of bitches out there


The warriors are by god damn far and away the best team and they have home court advantage


I officially bookmarked this thread. You are going to praise Lebron when he shut downs Curry, and wins his 3rd finals MVP.

[Lebron23]

LMAO. Nothing LeBron stans love more than to compare his success at age 30 to the success of guys who are 25-26 years old and have all proven themselves just as much if not more in the PO's than LeBron at the same age.

At this age, Durant has one finals loss but his stats were great. LeBron at the same age had one bad finals performance and then one all time bad choking finals performance


Ring Less

[ShawkFactory]

Say LeBron loses this year, is 2/6 in the Finals, and makes it again next year but loses, is 2/7, repeats the process again for 2/8 and then the NBA reformats the playoffs to be just the top 16 teams and LeBron never makes the Finals again.

How would that affect his legacy? Would it push him out of the top 10 all time? Only winning his rings with Wade, underwhelming otherwise, failing to make it once the competition is leveled.
Well in you weird, agenda-driven scenario, he would be past his prime once the competition levels.

And why would we assume that he's always going to lose? Some of y'all still try way to hard.

[Beastmode88]

It' won't happen Simon cause He's going to win his 3rd NBA Championship this year while Curry, Durant, and Westbrook would be ringless.

Didn't you say the same thign last year? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JerrySeinfeld]

Hes already top 10. Around 8-9

Thats the point of this thread because this scenario would likely devalue his previous accomplishments, since it would truly demonstrate how much easier his path has been to the finals than what other stars have had to go through.

plus, only winning with an uber stacked team playing 8v5 every series? Shit.... :oldlol:

[JerrySeinfeld]

Well in you weird, agenda-driven scenario, he would be past his prime once the competition levels.

And why would we assume that he's always going to lose? Some of y'all still try way to hard.

I'm assuming he's going to make it because of how weak the East is but at the moment I'd have to assume that he's going to lose because of both his track record but mainly because the Cavs team, especially as LeBron ages, just is not as good as they need to be. Not good enough defensively, most of the roster is on the decline, etc.

[Out_In_Utah]

There really are some delusional sons of bitches out there


The warriors are by god damn far and away the best team and they have home court advantage

I would be completely shocked if Cavs beat Warriors.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm assuming he's going to make it because of how weak the East is but at the moment I'd have to assume that he's going to lose because of both his track record but mainly because the Cavs team, especially as LeBron ages, just is not as good as they need to be. Not good enough defensively, most of the roster is on the decline, etc.
What do you mean because of his track record? Since his complete meltdown in 2011 he's 2 out of 3 and has played the biggest when his team has needed him.

Just because the Heat got completely outplayed last year doesn't mean that this is 2007-2011 Lebron we're dealing with.

And even then...most of the roster is young. Kyrie will only get better, Love (should he stay) isn't declining any time soon. etc etc

[JerrySeinfeld]

What do you mean because of his track record? Since his complete meltdown in 2011 he's 2 out of 3 and has played the biggest when his team has needed him.

Just because the Heat got completely outplayed last year doesn't mean that this is 2007-2011 Lebron we're dealing with.

like I said that was about 10% of the consideration, 90% of it is the fact that this Cavs team just isn't good enough.

Most expect Love to leave, if they wanna keep TT they are going to have to way overpay, JR is not someone you can bank on as a consistent staple IMO, Kyrie is good but not as good as the other 2nd options late in the playoffs, and overall their team just doesn't play well enough defense. And this is a roster that should be getting better to compensate for LeBron's ridiculous mileage at this age, in order to account for his likely steeper decline than others at the same age. Basically, trading Wiggins was stupid as ****ing shit.

I just don't see it man. They will annihilate the East, sure. But don't feel it with them winning the Finals.

[Lebron23]

Didn't you say the same thign last year? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Spurs were a better team and a more experienced team than the Current Warriors.

The Cavaliers had a great record since they acquired Smith, Mozgov, and Shumpert.

They only lost twice in the playoffs this year. We don't know if Curry is still the same player after that fall that caused a head contusion.

[ShawkFactory]

like I said that was about 10% of the consideration, 90% of it is the fact that this Cavs team just isn't good enough.

Most expect Love to leave, if they wanna keep TT they are going to have to way overpay, JR is not someone you can bank on as a consistent staple IMO, Kyrie is good but not as good as the other 2nd options late in the playoffs, and overall their team just doesn't play well enough defense. And this is a roster that should be getting better to compensate for LeBron's ridiculous mileage at this age, in order to account for his likely steeper decline than others at the same age. Basically, trading Wiggins was stupid as ****ing shit.

I just don't see it man. They will annihilate the East, sure. But don't feel it with them winning the Finals.
If team inferiority is 90% of it why would it affect his all-time ranking?

[sd3035]

It' won't happen Simon cause He's going to win his 3rd NBA Championship this year while Curry, Durant, and Westbrook would be ringless.

Aren't I simon? lol or am I Jerry too?

[Beastmode88]

Spurs were a better team and a more experienced team than the Current Warriors.

The Cavaliers had a great record since they acquired Smith, Mozgov, and Shumpert.

They only lost twice in the playoffs this year. We don't know if Curry is still the same player after that fall that caused a head contusion.

The East.


Aren't I simon? lol or am I Jerry too?

he thinks everyone has an alt apparently. it's quite comical just like how he is able to miss open layups.

[red1]

he'll still be better than durant :oldlol:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

He could lose a few more finals and he'd stay at 10th for me. Not moving up without extra rings/FMVPs though.