6/6, 5/7, 2/5

[hateraid]

When are people gonna realize those are TEAM stats? North Americans seem to put so much value on championships when comparing players. On a world wide scale you rarely hear that argument brought up. Nobody defines Messi by how how times he's been to a finals and the percentage he's won. The freakin argument is getting tired. Especially the dough heads that post:
"6/6, that's all I need" :facepalm
It's an accomplishment, but the leader shouldn't take majority credit. Individual statistical achievement and value of a player when on a team then removed are a better indicator.

[NBASTATMAN]

When are people gonna realize those are TEAM stats? North Americans seem to put so much value on championships when comparing players. On a world wide scale you rarely hear that argument brought up. Nobody defines Messi by how how times he's been to a finals and the percentage he's won. The freakin argument is getting tired. Especially the dough heads that post:
"6/6, that's all I need" :facepalm
It's an accomplishment, but the leader shouldn't take majority credit. Individual statistical achievement and value of a player when on a team then removed are a better indicator.


7/7 Horry 5/6 Duncan

[Im Still Ballin]

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[dh144498]

http://i.imgur.com/8usmo31.gif

[hateraid]

If championships is the bar by which we compare players then give Bill Russell the GOAT title.

/conversation

[DonDadda59]

If you don't like America then you can giiiiit out.


If championships is the bar by which we compare players then give Bill Russell the GOAT title.

/conversation

I've heard plenty of people make that argument.

Sick, misguided, fools... but they still argued it.

[CarlosBoozer]

2/5 doe

[fiddy]

2*/6

[tmacattack33]

Interesting that it's like that over there.

I would say the media is to blame...and not just about the Finals winning percentage but overall rings too.

But they gotta do what they gotta to get people to watch the Finals.

Not many people would watch if legacies weren't on the line.

[Bobcats2013]

2/6*

is emphasized on Lebron because he's been pacified in the East. Getting all these allocates playing pathetic competition. It's similar to Floyd Mayweather.

If Lebron was in the West, do you really think he would make 5 straight finals? Lebron's Cavs would be 7th seed in the West right now.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1-9

[inclinerator]

2/6*

is emphasized on Lebron because he's been pacified in the East. Getting all these allocates playing pathetic competition. It's similar to Floyd Mayweather.

If Lebron was in the West, do you really think he would make 5 straight finals? Lebron's Cavs would be 7th seed in the West right now.
he wouldnt be on the cavs in the west

[stephanieg]

The United States culture is built on rugged individualism and a heroic ethos. We have very little community spirit. We worship singular individuals, whether it's athletes, scientists, or technological pioneers. Even in team based settings we're looking to stab someone in the back to go up the ladder.

Just look at the movies we make.

[hateraid]

2/6*

is emphasized on Lebron because he's been pacified in the East. Getting all these allocates playing pathetic competition. It's similar to Floyd Mayweather.

If Lebron was in the West, do you really think he would make 5 straight finals? Lebron's Cavs would be 7th seed in the West right now.
Again, that's a team thing, the CAVS are pacified in the east.
On the flip side this solidifies Russell'sRussell ' argument since he had to go through Wilt Freakin Chamberlain to accomplish his feat.

[sportjames23]

1-9


What was that? I don't speak 2/5 or 2/6.

[Cleverness]

The United States culture is built on rugged individualism and a heroic ethos. We have very little community spirit. We worship singular individuals, whether it's athletes, scientists, or technological pioneers. Even in team based settings we're looking to stab someone in the back to go up the ladder.

Just look at the movies we make.

http://media.giphy.com/media/xKy2w6LehxxHa/giphy.gif

[pauk]

I dont mind that "X of X in Finals" logic as long as those people OBIDE by it to 100% and hence dont contradict themselves... meaning the new top 10 is:

1. Bill Russell (11/11)
2. Sam Jones (10/10)
3. John Havlicek (8/8)
4. Tom Heinsohn (8/8)
5. KC Jones (8/8)
6. Tom Sanders (8/8)
7. Jim Loscutoff (7/7)
8. Frank Ramsey (7/7)
9. Robert Horry (7/7)
10. Bob Cousy (6/6)

Accept your logic to 100% or leave it.... up to you...

[RoundMoundOfReb]

What was that? I don't speak 2/5 or 2/6.

Sorry i don't speak 1-9 or 1/10.

[SouBeachTalents]

I dont mind that "X of X in Finals" logic as long as those people OBIDE by it to 100% and hence dont contradict themselves... meaning the new top 10 is:

1. Bill Russell (11/11)
2. Sam Jones (10/10)
3. John Havlicek (8/8)
4. Tom Heinsohn (8/8)
5. KC Jones (8/8)
6. Tom Sanders (8/8)
7. Jim Loscutoff (7/7)
8. Frank Ramsey (7/7)
9. Robert Horry (7/7)
10. Bob Cousy (6/6)

Accept your logic to 100% or leave it.... up to you...

These guys all lost in the Finals

[pauk]

These guys all lost in the Finals

Oh snap, thought wrong, oh well, i guess then somebody like Bill Russell is out aswell... because being 2/2 is better win % than Russells 11/12 afterall... :oldlol:

John Havlicek new GOAT.

This "X of X Finals" logic rules! :bowdown:

New top 10:

1. John Havlicek (8/8)
2. KC Jones (8/8)
3. Tom Sanders (8/8)
4. Jim Loscutoff (7/7)
5. Robert Horry (7/7)
6. Scottie Pippen (6/6)
7. Michael Jordan (6/6)
8. Dennis Rodman (5/5)
9. Steve Kerr (5/5)
10. Ron Harper (5/5)

[NBAplayoffs2001]

1.0, 0.71428, 0.4.

Let's multiply each by 100 and assign a letter grade, shall we?

100% = A+
71.428% = C-
40% = F

Wow 2/5 really fails at life. Maybe he should switch schools.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1.0, 0.71428, 0.4.

Let's multiply each by 100 and assign a letter grade, shall we?

100% = A+
71.428% = C-
40% = F

Wow 2/5 really fails at life. Maybe he should switch schools.
71.428 is typically a C+/B-

[NBAplayoffs2001]

71.428 is typically a C+/B-

Damn what school do you go to? I gotta get my transfer papers in.

[pauk]

1.0, 0.71428, 0.4.

Let's multiply each by 100 and assign a letter grade, shall we?

100% = A+
71.428% = C-
40% = F

Wow 2/5 really fails at life. Maybe he should switch schools.

Yes, driving a Fiat Punto in a Formula 1 race, losing but ending up #2... what a ***ing loser.... :applause:
(Yes, getting the worst team in NBA history to be in a Finals, and losing there... what a ***ing loser... :applause:)

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Also what is 1/10?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Damn what school do you go to? I gotta get my transfer papers in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grading_systems_by_country

Just looked it up. I'm surprised it varies so much between USA and Canada.

[NBASTATMAN]

Oh snap, thought wrong, oh well, i guess then somebody like Bill Russell is out aswell... because being 2/2 is better win % than Russells 11/12 afterall... :oldlol:

John Havlicek new GOAT.

This "X of X Finals" logic rules! :bowdown:

New top 10:

1. John Havlicek (8/8)
2. KC Jones (8/8)
3. Tom Sanders (8/8)
4. Jim Loscutoff (7/7)
5. Robert Horry (7/7)
6. Scottie Pippen (6/6)
7. Michael Jordan (6/6)
8. Dennis Rodman (5/5)
9. Steve Kerr (5/5)
10. Ron Harper (5/5)


RODMAN LOST TO THE LAKERS 89

[NBAplayoffs2001]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grading_systems_by_country

Just looked it up. I'm surprised it varies so much between USA and Canada.

Damn I always wondered why my cousins from Canada were all hyped about having 85+ averages in high school.