Armed protestors gather outside of a Phoenix Mosque

[imdaman99]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/protesters-gather-draw-muhammad-cartoon-contest-outside-phoenix-mosque-n366961

They were holding a draw Muhammad contest, how honorable of them to protect the 'innocent' artists.

Nice of them to cover themselves up in masks. I guess they have more in common with the ISIS scum than they thought :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

These people need hobbies.

[BigNBAfan]

:applause:

stand up against idiots that do not let you practice your rights

[24-Inch_Chrome]

****ing idiots. :oldlol:

It's like the real life equivalent of shit posting for attention.

[sweggeh]

Don't these people have jobs or lives? Such betas lol.

Bet you their pictures were shit too. Probably used crayons.

[BigNBAfan]

Don't these people have jobs or lives? Such betas lol.

Bet you their pictures were shit too. Probably used crayons.

still more real than akbar

[imdaman99]

****ing idiots. :oldlol:

It's like the real life equivalent of shit posting for attention.
It was a biker gang. I don't think they have much going on in their lives :oldlol:

[sweggeh]

still more real than akbar

I not really religious either. Doesnt mean I go around fckin with innocent people for their faith. Its a bit of a beta move.

If these people were legit they would go try that picture shit in ISIS held cities. Not outside a fckin mosque in phoenix LOL. Thats just beta to the max.

[BigNBAfan]

I not really religious either. Doesnt mean I go around fckin with innocent people for their faith. Its a bit of a beta move.

If these people were legit they would go try that picture shit in ISIS held cities. Not outside a fckin mosque in phoenix LOL. Thats just beta to the max.

thinking of others is beta

alpha is you doin' you and not giving a **** what others think

[sweggeh]

thinking of others is beta

alpha is you doin' you and not giving a **** what others think

These guys are begging for attention. They are trying their ABSOLUTE HARDEST to get attention. They are ultimate betas, and if you don't get it you must be one too.

Like I said, if these biker gangs are so bad why don't they go to Iraq and throw down where the real demons at. Anyone can go rile up some old people in Phoenix.

[Nick Young]

They are innocent artists you moron. No one should have their life threatened for drawing a cartoon. In Iran today there are images of Mohammad all over Tehran and artists draw Mohammad and none of them have their lives threatened.

[Nick Young]

****ing idiots. :oldlol:

It's like the real life equivalent of shit posting for attention.
They are standing up for their constitutional rights-an American tradition.

You are Canadian. You will never understand.

[sweggeh]

LOL

Nick stop embarrassing yourself mate. This is like me going to a weight loss group and drawing pictures of fat women to piss off the people there. Its attention seeking to the maximum.

These fat retards aint standing up for shit. Go fight the real terrorists if you wanna stand up for something.

[Nick Young]

LOL

Nick stop embarrassing yourself mate. This is like me going to a weight loss group and drawing pictures of fat women to piss off the people there. Its attention seeking to the maximum.

These fat retards aint standing up for shit. Go fight the real terrorists if you wanna stand up for something.
You dont believe in freedom of speech and artistic expression?:confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

LOL

Nick stop embarrassing yourself mate. This is like me going to a weight loss group and drawing pictures of fat women to piss off the people there. Its attention seeking to the maximum.

These fat retards aint standing up for shit. Go fight the real terrorists if you wanna stand up for something.
Actually, it's like protesting against abortion outside of an abortion clinic or protesting against police outside of the police precinct. People doing their protests in the direct area of the people they want to hear their message is actually pretty normal.

To be clear, I don't have a very high opinion of these people who are doing this contest outside of the mosque. It's a dumb thing to do in my opinion. I don't think their motives are intellectual or in the interest of promoting freedom. I think they just want to rub it in Muslims faces. I also think its dumb that at any college speaking event, there are huge protests, especially if the speaker is pro Israel.

That's just how it is. People are allowed to protest, and other people are allowed to have opinions about the protest/protesters.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I not really religious either. Doesnt mean I go around fckin with innocent people for their faith. Its a bit of a beta move.

If these people were legit they would go try that picture shit in ISIS held cities. Not outside a fckin mosque in phoenix LOL. Thats just beta to the max.

"That picture shit" is a legitimate form of freedom and should be encouraged in the nation people live in, when their countrymen are being attacked and threatened for expressing themselves.

It is weak that these people are antagonizing Muslims in their place of worship when they haven't shown any support of the extremists in their religion. The real "beta move" is the masks. :facepalm

[Patrick Chewing]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

They are standing up for their constitutional rights-an American tradition.

You are Canadian. You will never understand.

So being an inflammatory asshole is a good thing? It's incredibly childish behaviour, so unnecessary.

I'm glad I "will never understand it."

[Nick Young]

So being an inflammatory asshole is a good thing? It's incredibly childish behaviour, so unnecessary.

I'm glad I "will never understand it."
It's not a good or bad thing. It's a fundamental right that all American citizens are entitled to pactice.

It's called freedom breh.

Do you get this mad when people protest outside Scientology, Mormon or Jehovah's Witness churches?

[NumberSix]

It's not a good or bad thing. It's a fundamental right that all American citizens are entitled to pactice.

It's called freedom breh.

Do you get this mad when people protest outside Scientology, Mormon or Jehovah's Witness churches?
I can guarantee he doesn't get this mad when college leftists scream about boycotting Israel, "rape culture", waving their communist flags and screaming and disrupting speakers invited to give speeches.

[SugarHill]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.
:biggums: :oldlol:

[TripleA]

[QUOTE]"That picture shit" is a legitimate form of freedom and should be encouraged in the nation people live in, when their countrymen are being attacked and threatened for expressing themselves.

You republican clowns are the biggest hypocrites talking a bout freedom of speech when you throw a shit storm when black people protest peacefully not agreeing with you.

[TripleA]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.

You peace of garbage your arguments only consist I don't like muslims how about you go get some real info you dumbass.

[nathanjizzle]

You dont believe in freedom of speech and artistic expression?:confusedshrug:

dont get freedom of speech mixed up with freedom of hate. what they are doing falls under the same category as a kkk rally.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I can guarantee he doesn't get this mad when college leftists scream about boycotting Israel, "rape culture", waving their communist flags and screaming and disrupting speakers invited to give speeches.

If any of those constitute being an inflammatory asshole for no legitimate reason then I'm not a fan. :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

You republican clowns are the biggest hypocrites talking a bout freedom of speech when you throw a shit storm when black people protest peacefully not agreeing with you.
Nobody thinks people shouldn't be able to protest. That's not a problem. The thing people have a problem with is looting stores and burning down buildings.

[Nick Young]

dont get freedom of speech mixed up with freedom of hate. what they are doing falls under the same category as a kkk rally.
As long as no one is injured and there are no calls to incite violence, KKK rallies are completely 100% legal in the United States.

It's called freedom, son.

Deal with it.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Patrick Chewing was apart of the crowd gathered outside of the mosque.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Patrick Chewing was apart of the crowd gathered outside of the mosque.


Damn dude! You totally pwned him there! Keep the zingers comin' :lol

[SCdac]

I think overtly targeting certain religions (and religious people) over and over is suspect... but lets be real, many Americans are pampered douche bags who flow in the wind of whatever's politically correct. Many have no qualms shitting all over Christianity and Catholicism in the most egregious ways

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/adrumaddict/Hypocrisy-300x227.jpg

this post on FB my homie posted 3 weeks ago got 100+ "likes" and many positive comments... it was ultimately deemed as "progressive"... I find it funny too, but I told him that if he replaced Jesus with Mohammed and Christians with Muslims, he'd probably get crucified (pun intended) by his same fanbase / group of friends

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/adrumaddict/05c0aebc-9ca2-4673-9a9b-f7451ed19bf7.png

I'm not cool with racially-fueled bigotry, but I'm fine with pointing out the extreme hypocrisy of criticizing only certain religions (out of fear or political correctness)... and not all of them... All religions need to be criticized, Islam, Judaism, Christianity... all of em.

[Lakers Legend#32]

This is FOX News' 'Murica.'

[pauk]

They are innocent artists you moron. No one should have their life threatened for drawing a cartoon. In Iran today there are images of Mohammad all over Tehran and artists draw Mohammad and none of them have their lives threatened.

Its because its one thing to draw Mohammed and another to mock Islam/Muslims, thats always the purpose & intention with these drawings (by non-muslims, obviously, why would they commend).... in this case doing it right outside that Mosque there, right in their grills.... armed.... and then you expect them to just walk around there like nothing is happening and be happy about it....

Those are completely random normal everyday american muslims aswell, they dont deserve that shit... not those crazy psycho arab rednecks in flip flops and camels from the middle-east your Jewish Media shows you everyday and these idiots here expect to see.... armed, what did they expect a war or something? Jesus....

Its not about insulting Mohammad, its about insulting Islam and sheer relentless infinity amount of annoyance.... Mohammed is just a prophet and not the only prophet of Islam and just as important as anybody else for muslims, just as Jesus is important to Islam... they bow down only to God.... but these "innocent artists" never draw God or Jesus or Abraham etc. and attach something that hints at it mocking Islam right? They could and they would get the same exact reaction..... but they do that only with Mohammed, for some reason....

How innocent am i when i run up to some random guy on the street and start insulting him the entire day? Eventually enough is enough and he may do something about it i think? Is it his fault? Is he really the instigator? Did he react because of what i said or because i am a ***ing A-hole?

[SCdac]

yeah blame it on the "Jewish media" .... :facepalm

[pauk]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.

The White man can be the Muzzie aswell.... what now? Unfortunately "Muzzies" are not a race and they have plenty of what you would consider a "White Man"....

I guess maybe you are talking about some Arab nation, if not all....

But even then... unfortunately many Arabs are Christian aswell....

Oops....

...and dont you worry about not picking on Muzzies instead of Blacks, because when you picked on the Blacks you also picked on Muzzies because up to 30% of the slaves were african muslims.... you changed their name, forced them all into christianity, even though some fought back in some ways, you won, GO 'MURICA!

Native Americans
Blacks
Go to war against THE white men / your own kind / your own religion (Germans etc, even though the cause was just)
Discrimination against anybody who isnt White or American.
Now "Muzzies"

..and yet your favorite player is i guess "Patrick Ewing" (probably, right?) / American sports which are dominated by Blacks (and has plenty of muslims aswell).... not to mention the non-white artists you listen to, movies you watch, food you eat.... hell your president Barack Hussein Obama is black and grew up Muslim......... contradictive....

I absolutely love America/Americans today.... but some of you guys need therapy.... :P That unfortunately goes for all nations... always some cretins here & there...

[chazzy]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.
cringe

[longtime lurker]

The irony of these idiots standing outside a Mosque with armed weapons and masks....

[pauk]

cringe

The guy is completely serious aswell, thats nothing, you should see some of his other shit.

Anyways, sup Chazzy! Long time no see. :) Should post more often, i miss your GOAT post investigating, you used to ether me with that.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

The White man was too focused on picking on the black man when they should have been hosing the Muzzies instead.


Now they build a mosque on every street corner and provide ample business for the bed sheet and area rug market.

You have very strong opinions on these matters.

You owe it to yourself to have stronger knowledge, for that should be the foundation before one forms an opinion. Right?

Start off with Mufti Menk's lectures on youtube.

I"ll quiz you on the material if you're serious about this.

[nathanjizzle]

As long as no one is injured and there are no calls to incite violence, KKK rallies are completely 100% legal in the United States.

It's called freedom, son.

Deal with it.

obviously:rolleyes: , but just because you have the right by government to do something doesnt make it morally and ethically right. nor does it make it acceptable by the majority.

[rufuspaul]

You have very strong opinions on these matters.

You owe it to yourself to have stronger knowledge, for that should be the foundation before one forms an opinion. Right?

Start off with Mufti Menk's lectures on youtube.

I"ll quiz you on the material if you're serious about this.


Do you ever get frustrated that mainstream Islam isn't doing enough positive PR? As in any religion, the radical fanatics tend to get the most press, but it seems to me that there should be more of an effort by the majority in Islam to put out positive messages.

[longtime lurker]

Do you ever get frustrated that mainstream Islam isn't doing enough positive PR? As in any religion, the radical fanatics tend to get the most press, but it seems to me that there should be more of an effort by the majority in Islam to put out positive messages.

You ever realize that maybe they do its just the news outlets that you follow never actually cover it? Its disingenuous to believe that the vast majority of Muslims don't engage in positive activities.

[imdaman99]

Do you ever get frustrated that mainstream Islam isn't doing enough positive PR? As in any religion, the radical fanatics tend to get the most press, but it seems to me that there should be more of an effort by the majority in Islam to put out positive messages.
How often do you get positive reports on Islam on the Fox News that you watch every morning? Get back to us on that.

[Nick Young]

Its because its one thing to draw Mohammed and another to mock Islam/Muslims, thats always the purpose & intention with these drawings (by non-muslims, obviously, why would they commend).... in this case doing it right outside that Mosque there, right in their grills.... armed.... and then you expect them to just walk around there like nothing is happening and be happy about it....

Those are completely random normal everyday american muslims aswell, they dont deserve that shit... not those crazy psycho arab rednecks in flip flops and camels from the middle-east your Jewish Media shows you everyday and these idiots here expect to see.... armed, what did they expect a war or something? Jesus....

Its not about insulting Mohammad, its about insulting Islam and sheer relentless infinity amount of annoyance.... Mohammed is just a prophet and not the only prophet of Islam and just as important as anybody else for muslims, just as Jesus is important to Islam... they bow down only to God.... but these "innocent artists" never draw God or Jesus or Abraham etc. and attach something that hints at it mocking Islam right? They could and they would get the same exact reaction..... but they do that only with Mohammed, for some reason....

How innocent am i when i run up to some random guy on the street and start insulting him the entire day? Eventually enough is enough and he may do something about it i think? Is it his fault? Is he really the instigator? Did he react because of what i said or because i am a ***ing A-hole?
Are you suggesting there should be blasphemy laws for Muslims in the United states? Are you suggesting it is heresy to criticize the religion of Islam?

Are you ok with people criticizing and mocking Mormonism or Scientology or Christianity or Jehovah's Witnesses?

Islam is not a magical religion free of criticism.

In America they are free to practice their religion how they please, and others are free to criticize or mock them. That is how the constitution works. If they or you don't like it, they can more to another country where it is illegal by law to criticize Islam.

No religion is immune from being criticized and mocked in the united states.

What you are suggesting are blasphemy laws. That's ****ing retarded.


You are right. Mohammad is not just a prophet. He was also a historic warlord. He encouraged zealotry in his followers and ordered the slaughter of innocents who would not convert to his religion. During his own lifetime under his direct orders, Islam was spread through pillage and bloodshed and rape and conquering.

The religion was founded on the back of violence. Mohammad encouraged his followers to use acts of violence and terrorism to spread Islam during his own life time.

Some people support his actions. Some people disagree with a religion where the founder encouraged followers to commit acts of violence and terror, like Mohammad is recorded in history to have done repeatedly.

Wise words from you bro!
Mohammad was more than just a prophet.

[Bosnian Sajo]

How often do you get positive reports on Islam on the Fox News that you watch every morning? Get back to us on that.

People don't realize that they are allowed to come inside the mosque and listen to the preaching and lectures by the imam, you'll hear plenty of positive messages.

[NumberSix]

Are you suggesting there should be blasphemy laws for Muslims in the United states? Are you suggesting it is heresy to criticize the religion of Islam?

Are you ok with people criticizing and mocking Mormonism or Scientology or Christianity or Jehovah's Witnesses?

Islam is not a magical religion free of criticism.

In America they are free to practice their religion how they please, and others are free to criticize or mock them. That is how the constitution works. If they or you don't like it, they can more to another country where it is illegal by law to criticize Islam.


Well, that's not entirely true. They can't have 4 wives. I'm sure that is next up on "marriage equality" advocates list of battles to fight though.

[Nick Young]

There are mormon compounds where people practice polygamy. Why is that allowed? Are they doing it illegally? If people know it's going on, why don't the feds go in and shut it down?

[NumberSix]

There are mormon compounds where people practice polygamy. Why is that allowed? Are they doing it illegally? If people know it's going on, why don't the feds go in and shut it down?
Yes.

Although, polygamy isn't a part of Mormonism anymore.

In Mormonism, the leader of the LDS church is supposedly a prophet. Conveniently, he gets new prophesies that say things like polygamy or not allowing blacks isn't part of the religion anymore whenever they are about to lose their tax exempt status.

[Nick Young]

Is there a reason why polygamy is even illegal? Victorian values? Is it harder to tax people with multiple wives? If everyone is consenting, and protection is used so STDs aren't spread, I honestly don't see anything wrong with polygamy.

Like how is it any different from unmarried swinger couples who live together but happily choose to be in open relationships and screw other people too?

[NumberSix]

Is there a reason why polygamy is even illegal? Victorian values? Is it harder to tax people with multiple wives? If everyone is consenting, and protection is used so STDs aren't spread, I honestly don't see anything wrong with polygamy.

Like how is it any different from unmarried swinger couples who live together but happily choose to be in open relationships and screw other people too?
Because marriage has never been about number of people, sexual orientation or "bigotry". It's a recognition that children are served best by having a mother and a father. Not by having 2 fathers, 2 mothers, a single parent, a father split between his 4 families, etc...

[Nick Young]

aight fair enough and makes sense.

[nightprowler10]

Do you ever get frustrated that mainstream Islam isn't doing enough positive PR? As in any religion, the radical fanatics tend to get the most press, but it seems to me that there should be more of an effort by the majority in Islam to put out positive messages.

I bet this line of thought is pretty frustrating for the Muslims that have held rallies, made speeches, and given fatwas, against all kinds of violent Islamist behavior. I mean, why wouldn't they? Muslims themselves account for the biggest amount of victims when it comes to terrorism.

I don't know what will it take for westerners to see that the "silent majority" is doing something. People joining hands from Morocco to Pakistan and saying no to people like ISIS maybe? When has the West ever done something like this? What Western model of global protest will suffice in order for these critics to be appeased? These Muslims are given a near impossible task, and are still cast as complicit when they can't achieve this purposefully impossible demand.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Do you ever get frustrated that mainstream Islam isn't doing enough positive PR? As in any religion, the radical fanatics tend to get the most press, but it seems to me that there should be more of an effort by the majority in Islam to put out positive messages.

Right on Target, Paul of Rufus, Crafter of Teeth.

At this point I don't care, because things are REALLY REALLY starting to make sense at unprecedented rates.

You, a Dentist, having completed the DAT's with vigor and precision ask me this exactly when I'm sharpening the sword that'll strike down the MCAT :oldlol:

One of the passages that we JUST READ on the verbal section was regarding the principles of St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine. On how they said that even if the Laws of your nation hate you, the people of influence slander you, the people of power try to demoralize you,. Your trials and tribulations as a person of Abrahamic faith, to attain salvation, would be to endure. Endure. Endure. Endure despite peer pressure. Endure despite the left brain telling you No No No it can't be. Believe no matter how much your friends oppose you. Endure despite the death threats.

Otherwise the straight path would not have quite the umph to make it a challenge, no?

It's the surat "Wal asri inal insana lafi khusr illaladheena aminu wa amilu salihati wata wa sawbil haqi watawa sawbis sabr." " In a nutshell this means, By the Ages, Man was created forgetful except for those who persevere to seek Truth with steady patience/endurance."



No matter how much people sh!t on Christianity, they can not change the good the Scripture has given them or the tenements that have shaped many individual personalities to ascend man from his bestial nature to the Divine. They can not change how Man is wired to have Faith in The Creator. And the quote "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." exemplifies the battle within.

So Rufus's soul is right here, a successful middle-aged man in the company of thousands of juvenile delinquents on a bball message frum. Now one must ask themselves Why? What is he meant to do? Why would the Lord of the Worlds want Rufus here.


One tenement of Islam is that this whole Dunya (World) we see.. is an illusion. Just an illusion, a reflectin of the inner into the outer. Like a Prostitute with makeup that tries to consume your soul with her distracting, but fleeting beauty. And that if you REALLY REALLY REALLY pay attention and meditate, anyone can see this world was but a product of your Mind's Consciousness and your Mind is a product of something.. and that something is a product of something else and tracing it all back, the originator is Al-Khaliq.

Ok enough disorgaized prattle. Words will be refined slowly but surely

[rufuspaul]

Right on Target, Paul of Rufus, Crafter of Teeth.

At this point I don't care, because things are REALLY REALLY starting to make sense at unprecedented rates.

You, a Dentist, having completed the DAT's with vigor and precision ask me this exactly when I'm sharpening the sword that'll strike down the MCAT :oldlol:

One of the passages that we JUST READ on the verbal section was regarding the principles of St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine. On how they said that even if the Laws of your nation hate you, the people of influence slander you, the people of power try to demoralize you,. Your trials and tribulations as a person of Abrahamic faith, to attain salvation, would be to endure. Endure. Endure. Endure despite peer pressure. Endure despite the left brain telling you No No No it can't be. Believe no matter how much your friends oppose you. Endure despite the death threats.

Otherwise the straight path would not have quite the umph to make it a challenge, no?

It's the surat "Wal asri inal insana lafi khusr illaladheena aminu wa amilu salihati wata wa sawbil haqi watawa sawbis sabr." " In a nutshell this means, By the Ages, Man was created forgetful except for those who persevere to seek Truth with steady patience/endurance."



No matter how much people sh!t on Christianity, they can not change the good the Scripture has given them or the tenements that have shaped many individual personalities to ascend man from his bestial nature to the Divine. They can not change how Man is wired to have Faith in The Creator. And the quote "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." exemplifies the battle within.

So Rufus's soul is right here, a successful middle-aged man in the company of thousands of juvenile delinquents on a bball message frum. Now one must ask themselves Why? What is he meant to do? Why would the Lord of the Worlds want Rufus here.


One tenement of Islam is that this whole Dunya (World) we see.. is an illusion. Just an illusion, a reflectin of the inner into the outer. Like a Prostitute with makeup that tries to consume your soul with her distracting, but fleeting beauty. And that if you REALLY REALLY REALLY pay attention and meditate, anyone can see this world was but a product of your Mind's Consciousness and your Mind is a product of something.. and that something is a product of something else and tracing it all back, the originator is Al-Khaliq.

Ok enough disorgaized prattle. Words will be refined slowly but surely


Interesting. Did you ever make a thread about your experiences in Mecca? What is your take on the whole Sunni vs Shiite chasm? How are things going to eventually play out in Syria? I'm interested in your take on these issues.

[rufuspaul]

How often do you get positive reports on Islam on the Fox News that you watch every morning? Get back to us on that.

I'm not a fan of any biased news. The reason I asked is that imo there doesn't seem to be much good press from any news source and one would think that the Islamic community is more than a little frustrated with that.