View Full Version : LeBron: "I can't guarantee the championship."
JerrySeinfeld
05-30-2015, 07:54 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1002/cavs-stay-true-to-their-road-map-to-finals
"I can't guarantee the championship," James said. "That's not what I'm here for. I'm here to lead. But I will guarantee that we will play our asses off. ... We will do that."
How much more alpha does this make Duncan's comments last year look, guaranteeing the finals victory
Genaro
05-30-2015, 07:55 PM
Damage control
Alamо
05-30-2015, 07:55 PM
Don't compare a living legend like Duncan to that beta
Haymaker
05-30-2015, 07:56 PM
:facepalm
Ramza
05-30-2015, 07:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1002/cavs-stay-true-to-their-road-map-to-finals
How much more alpha does this make Duncan's comments last year look, guaranteeing the finals victory
Agenda exposed.
JerrySeinfeld
05-30-2015, 07:59 PM
Don't compare a living legend like Duncan to that beta
imagine if Duncan went through his career with the hype that LeBron is given...
he'd have multiple DPOY awards, probably at least 1-2 more MVP awards as well, would be to the media a consensus top 3 player of all time.
Meticode
05-30-2015, 08:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1002/cavs-stay-true-to-their-road-map-to-finals
How much more alpha does this make Duncan's comments last year look, guaranteeing the finals victory
You have a 50/50 shot on winning it if you're Duncan. LeBron is Duncan. He has a 2/6 chance.
Brokenbeat
05-30-2015, 08:03 PM
He's so inspirational, lol.
Meticode
05-30-2015, 08:03 PM
imagine if Duncan went through his career with the hype that LeBron is given...
he'd have multiple DPOY awards, probably at least 1-2 more MVP awards as well, would be to the media a consensus top 3 player of all time.
That's pretty presumptuous.
Sarcastic
05-30-2015, 08:06 PM
Alpha AF
JerrySeinfeld
05-30-2015, 08:19 PM
Agenda exposed.
no agenda, just funny to me that old ass Duncan can guarantee the W vs "this eras Jordan" while prime LeBron can't guarantee the W vs a 6'2 lightskin dude with a babyface
inclinerator
05-30-2015, 08:27 PM
no agenda, just funny to me that old ass Duncan can guarantee the W vs "this eras Jordan" while prime LeBron can't guarantee the W vs a 6'2 lightskin dude with a babyface
no 1 cares about tim duncan, u think if lebron guarantee a win, even if he wins it those words goes against him
DMAVS41
05-30-2015, 08:28 PM
That's pretty presumptuous.
Not really actually.
If the Spurs were in NY, Boston, or LA...and Duncan had the hype machine working for him....
He'd definitely have more accolades and would definitely be thought of as a higher GOAT candidate.
Hardcore fans know Duncan's greatness...but most casual fans and even media members under-rate him imo.
He never won a defensive player of the year yet he's arguably one of the 5 best defenders in NBA history.
Not really actually.
If the Spurs were in NY, Boston, or LA...and Duncan had the hype machine working for him....
He'd definitely have more accolades and would definitely be thought of as a higher GOAT candidate.
Hardcore fans know Duncan's greatness...but most casual fans and even media members under-rate him imo.
He never won a defensive player of the year yet he's arguably one of the 5 best defenders in NBA history.
Lebron is from Cleveland....
JerrySeinfeld
05-30-2015, 08:30 PM
Lebron is from Cleveland....
he's also the only player in NBA history that I know of to approach the media about airing his free agent decision.
much of the hype about LeBron comes from his attention whoring ways whereas Duncan never makes an effort to bring more attention to himself.
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 08:34 PM
LMAO guaranteeing championships is the exact same thing that people criticize LeBron for the most, and then when he takes the humble route, people still criticize him. Pathetic.
And LeBron didn't approach the media to air the decision. It was the other way around.
Not to mention there's a difference between guaranteeing a championship once you're already in the finals, and your team is favored to win opposed to saying you can't guarantee one before a season begins.
Springsteen
05-30-2015, 08:40 PM
he's also the only player in NBA history that I know of to approach the media about airing his free agent decision.
ESPN approached him to do the decision special :confusedshrug:
pretty sure they made like a million from charity from it too
redboy
05-30-2015, 08:47 PM
LMAO guaranteeing championships is the exact same thing that people criticize LeBron for the most, and then when he takes the humble route, people still criticize him. Pathetic.
And LeBron didn't approach the media to air the decision. It was the other way around.
Not to mention there's a difference between guaranteeing a championship once you're already in the finals, and your team is favored to win opposed to saying you can't guarantee one before a season begins.
LeBron didn't guarantee once championship, he implied that they were guaranteed like 10
Leroy Jetson
05-30-2015, 09:00 PM
You have a 50/50 shot on winning it if you're Duncan. LeBron is Duncan. He has a 2/6 chance.
I think Duncan has more of a 5/6 chance do winning.
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 09:00 PM
LeBron didn't guarantee once championship, he implied that they were guaranteed like 10
Ok? And he was obviously humbled by everything that went on during "the decision" and chose to take another route this year with the Cavs and not promise chips.
You really want to criticize him for that? It's just proof that people will criticize LeBron regardless of what he does.
jimmy77x
05-30-2015, 09:05 PM
Ok? And he was obviously humbled by everything that went on during "the decision" and chose to take another route this year with the Cavs and not promise chips.
You really want to criticize him for that? It's just proof that people will criticize LeBron regardless of what he does.
Your boy isnt humbled by anything, go ahead a sip that " nice guy/humbled" kool-aid he feeding the media and his stans. Bran is a piece of shit and nothing he says will change that.
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 09:06 PM
Your boy isnt humbled by anything, go ahead a sip that " nice guy/humbled" kool-aid he feeding the media and his stans. Bran is a piece of shit and nothing he says will change that.
Then why isn't he guaranteeing 7-8 championships for Cleveland? He's an arrogant prick, right? Why isn't he handling it the same exact way he did when he went to Miami?
:applause: lerespect for finals opponent, lehumble
Bandito
05-30-2015, 09:15 PM
Then why isn't he guaranteeing 7-8 championships for Cleveland? He's an arrogant prick, right? Why isn't he handling it the same exact way he did when he went to Miami?
Backlash. Hes not an imbecile, he learned from his mistakes...
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 09:16 PM
Backlash. Hes not an imbecile, he learned from his mistakes...
Which is exactly my point.
He learned from that mistake, so he's not guaranteeing championships anymore.
But leave it to the same ISH trolls who shat on him for guaranteeing championships to whine about him doing the exact opposite.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-30-2015, 09:19 PM
Which is exactly my point.
He learned from that mistake, so he's not guaranteeing championships anymore.
But leave it to the same ISH trolls who shat on him for guaranteeing championships to whine about him doing the exact opposite.
Why not just say we'll play hard and go from there?
To imply he cannot guarantee a championship opens up the door to various implications :oldlol:
Then why isn't he guaranteeing 7-8 championships for Cleveland? He's an arrogant prick, right? Why isn't he handling it the same exact way he did when he went to Miami?
Maybe he's finally learned his lesson? Anyways, that scripted SI letter is just a toned down "Decision." Silly to think that Lebron's gone back to CLE because he wants to go home - it's the only place in the EAST that gives him a great shot at getting to the Finals - and that's all he wants - after all, you never know what might happen - both Curry and Thompson might have concussions :lol
Why not just say we'll play hard and go from there?
To imply he cannot guarantee a championship opens up the door to various implications :oldlol:
implications conceived by your hater mind :oldlol:
dude77
05-30-2015, 09:23 PM
lol lebron is scared .. he knows gs are the superior team .. I can almost hear his voice cracking while he said that .. that ass pounding sa gave him left him with ptsd
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 09:24 PM
Why not just say we'll play hard and go from there?
That is exactly what he said in the article the OP posted:
"That's not what I'm here for. I'm here to lead. But I will guarantee that we will play our asses off. ... We will do that."
BBallZen83
05-30-2015, 09:24 PM
Really no winning with people who already have their minds made up. Guarantee, don't guarantee, wtf ever. Guess he can't please every internet troll that's a Kobe fan.
And yeah, ESPN approached him about airing his decision, and he agreed upon it, as long as proceeds went to Boys and Girls clubs. Really horrible guy.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-30-2015, 09:26 PM
That is exactly what he said in the article the OP posted:
Yeah, after the 'I can't guarantee' stuff. It's just not needed... :oldlol:
Of course I'm nitpicking here, but whatever. We can both agree LeBron's definitely been humbled.
ArbitraryWater
05-30-2015, 09:30 PM
Easy to make guarantees when you're essentially a role player on a championship squad.
this, tbh
Like Duncan had to shoulder anywhere near the type of load LeBron is demanded upon right now :lol
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-30-2015, 09:31 PM
implications conceived by your hater mind :oldlol:
http://rs1264.pbsrc.com/albums/jj488/Bradspyjamas/Sherlock%20pics/Sherlockevilsmile_zps35739310.gif~c200
Asukal
05-30-2015, 09:32 PM
Ok? And he was obviously humbled by everything that went on during "the decision" and chose to take another route this year with the Cavs and not promise chips.
You really want to criticize him for that? It's just proof that people will criticize LeBron regardless of what he does.
And it's proof you will ride his d1ck regardless of what he does. :oldlol:
dubeta
05-30-2015, 09:33 PM
this, tbh
Like Duncan had to shoulder anywhere near the type of load LeBron is demanded upon right now :lol
And the funny thing is, noone would remember about the comment if the Spurs lost, like literally nobody, Duncan had nothing to lose. However if Lebron said it it would be the most watched YouTube vid of all time.
AintNoSunshine
05-30-2015, 09:34 PM
I could have guaranteed a Spurs championship too the Heat was so sht. Tgis year the Cavs is the underdog and going up an All Time team according to multiple stats. If Bron somehow wins he will be Top 3 Ever.
Milbuck
05-30-2015, 09:35 PM
To be fair, Duncan hasn't shouldered an ATG-level burden a la Lebron in like 7 years. It was badass as f*ck that he called the championship before he won it, but it's not like he was doing something historic.
If 2003 Duncan guaranteed a chip and then did what he eventually did, it would've been one of the most, and I hate this word, alpha things in NBA history.
PejaTheSerbSnip
05-30-2015, 09:35 PM
Easy to make guarantees when you're essentially a role player on a championship squad.
Role players don't lead their teams in scoring like Duncan did in last years playoff run. Nor are they the teams best rim protector.
Either way, hard to find fault with what LeBron said. The Cavs are massive underdogs and probably (hopefully, for me) won't win. Whereas the Spurs were the heavy favourites last year when Duncan made that guarantee.
100grandman
05-30-2015, 09:36 PM
If Lebron guaranteed a win, there would just be more haters.
J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2015, 09:41 PM
Role players don't lead their teams in scoring like Duncan did in last years playoff run. Nor are they the teams best rim protector.
Either way, hard to find fault with what LeBron said. The Cavs are massive underdogs and probably (hopefully, for me) won't win. Whereas the Spurs were the heavy favourites last year when Duncan made that guarantee.
Tony Parker led the team in scoring throughout the playoffs.
Duncan was 3rd in scoring in the finals.
edrick
05-30-2015, 09:43 PM
Why would he guarantee a chip when the 2 next best players are injured? That would be ****ing dumb.
That would be like MJ guaranteeing a chip with Pippen out.
lilteapot
05-30-2015, 09:48 PM
Why not just say we'll play hard and go from there?
To imply he cannot guarantee a championship opens up the door to various implications :oldlol:
He said immediately after "I guarantee we will play our asses off" but of course your worthless ass just reads the article titles instead of looking for context.
dubeta
05-30-2015, 09:48 PM
Fact. Duncan's choking ways has been conspicuously missed/overlooked time and time again. People already forgot about his miss against Battier that would've sealed the Spurs championship. 1st round losses as the #1 seed.. He's had a steady squad his whole career, yet he couldn't repeat once.. I could go on and on.
LeBron and Kobe are just on another stratosphere and persevere through a bunch of shit... Duncan with that type of pressure would been on his way out of the league and in your nearest gay club (DMAVS41's crib).
Preach brother :applause:
Great points, in fact I exposed the entire Duncan myth in this insightful piece. Feel free to read all about it here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374922 I destroyed every myth surrounding Duncan, he's top 10-12 all time imo.
Done_And_Done
05-30-2015, 09:57 PM
Preach brother :applause:
Great points, in fact I exposed the entire Duncan myth in this insightful piece. Feel free to read all about it here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374922 I destroyed every myth surrounding Duncan, he's top 10-12 all time imo.
His 5 championships and insanely impressive resume literally supersede any drivel you could possibly ever spew. Go to sleep...
Straight_Ballin
05-30-2015, 10:03 PM
Duncan top 5 confirmed:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377914
sportjames23
05-30-2015, 10:49 PM
No excuses, Bron.
No excuses.
sportjames23
05-30-2015, 10:50 PM
Preach brother :applause:
Great points, in fact I exposed the entire Duncan myth in this insightful piece. Feel free to read all about it here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374922 I destroyed every myth surrounding Duncan, he's top 10-12 all time imo.
5/6 >>> 2/5 (soon to be 2/6).
jimmy77x
05-30-2015, 10:56 PM
I could have guaranteed a Spurs championship too the Heat was so sht. Tgis year the Cavs is the underdog and going up an All Time team according to multiple stats. If Bron somehow wins he will be Top 3 Ever.
um no, no he wont :lol keep telling your self that though, whatever helps you sleep. Love how bron stans are coming up with bullshit narratives to prop up lebaldo, "the warriors are historically good"..blah blah blah. If kyrie is healthy both teams are equal. no excuses for small d!ck bran, none.
Tony Parker led the team in scoring throughout the playoffs.
Duncan was 3rd in scoring in the finals.
There are other things that are important to winning than just scoring.
2014 Playoffs
Parker 17.4 pts / 4.8 asst 48.6%FG 103 ORtg 109 DRtg 15.8 PER .531 TS% 1.1 WS -1.2 BPM 0.1 VORP
Duncan 16.3 pts / 9.2 rebs / 2 asst / 1.3 blks 52.3%FG 120 ORtg 104 DRtg 21.1 PER .568 TS% 3.2 WS 4.4 BPM 1.2 VORP
2014 Finals
Parker 18 pts / 4.6 asst 47.9%FG 110 ORtg 110 DRtg .550 TS%
Duncan 15.4 pts / 10 rebs / 2 assts / .8 blks 56.9%FG 114 ORtg 105 DRtg .608 TS%
Leonard 17.8 pts / 6.4 rebs / 2 assts / 1.6 stl 61.2%FG 136 ORtg 101 DRtg .753 TS%
Taller than CP3
05-31-2015, 02:03 AM
He's pretty much accepted the fact that he's going to be 2/6.
DJ Leon Smith
05-31-2015, 03:01 AM
Easy to make guarantees when you're essentially a role player on a championship squad.
Guess that's why LeBron guaranteed a title in 2011.
funnystuff
05-31-2015, 03:42 AM
Lebron is from Cleveland....
Bahaha, this.
Nick Young
05-31-2015, 04:27 AM
Lebrons losing finals record increases!
r0drig0lac
05-31-2015, 08:07 AM
not compare a top 5 all time with..... that other guy
T_L_P
05-31-2015, 08:22 AM
Easy to make guarantees when you're essentially a role player on a championship squad.
LeBron guaranteed a ring in 2011.
Averaged 17 PPG in the Finals (role player) and lost.
Damn.
Duncan21formvp
05-31-2015, 05:47 PM
Duncan is just better than Lebron that is why.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-31-2015, 05:55 PM
He said immediately after "I guarantee we will play our asses off" but of course your worthless ass just reads the article titles instead of looking for context.
Funny that you mention reading yet neglect the fact I had already mentioned so.
LeBron fans are infinitely special. :oldlol:
Hey Yo
05-31-2015, 08:06 PM
Backlash. Hes not an imbecile, he learned from his mistakes...
It's not a mistake when imbeciles actually thought he was serious when he got up to "not 5, not 6, not 7"
Hard to win that many when you're only under contract for 4yrs. It's called "playing to the crowd"
Hey Yo
05-31-2015, 08:09 PM
Duncan has just had better teams and a better coach most of his career than Lebron has that is why.
fixed.
Lebron23
05-31-2015, 09:36 PM
Easy to make guarantees when you're essentially a role player on a championship squad.
This
FLDFSU
05-31-2015, 11:00 PM
Maybe he's finally learned his lesson? Anyways, that scripted SI letter is just a toned down "Decision." Silly to think that Lebron's gone back to CLE because he wants to go home - it's the only place in the EAST that gives him a great shot at getting to the Finals - and that's all he wants - after all, you never know what might happen - both Curry and Thompson might have concussions :lol
So a 33 win team that never made the playoffs in "the weakest conference of all time" is the only place in the East that gives Lebron a great shot?
Why not stay in Miami? Miami suddenly doesn't have a great shot?
Chicago?
Washington?
Atlanta?
Pacers?
Any Eastern conference team that made the playoffs in 2014? Why a 33 win Cavs team?
iamgine
05-31-2015, 11:07 PM
The King is older and wiser. He remembers his past mistakes.
http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/585942/resized_lebron-meme-generator-not-one-not-two-not-three-not-four-not-five-not-six-not-seven-f15e22.jpg
PickernRoller
05-31-2015, 11:16 PM
Lebron knows it. His stans just don't want to admit it. 2-6.
:pimp:
So a 33 win team that never made the playoffs in "the weakest conference of all time" is the only place in the East that gives Lebron a great shot?
Why not stay in Miami? Miami suddenly doesn't have a great shot?
Chicago?
Washington?
Atlanta?
Pacers?
Any Eastern conference team that made the playoffs in 2014? Why a 33 win Cavs team?
lotsa young talent and assets + repair damage to image (hometown boy returns) - gets to run things his way (no Riley/inexperienced coach) and recruit talent. Riley is loyal to Wade and Wade is only going to get older/more run down and Lebron would have to carry them. In CLE, young, energetic players can carry him for spells (what do you think that request for reduction in minutes was for - he wants to prolong his career).
COnDEMnED
06-01-2015, 01:11 AM
I wouldn't guarantee shit either if I wasn't on a team of super friends with Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Shane Battier and going up against a bunch of geriatrics and still coming out a loser. Not 7, not 6, not 5, not 4, not 3. 2.
That team had so many super friends, it should have been renamed from Heatles to LeBronie ponies, because friendship is magic!
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