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dubeta
05-31-2015, 08:59 PM
Same goes with Tmac, A.I, Vince Carter, Clyde Drexler, Julius Irving, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, D-Wade

:confusedshrug:

warriorfan
05-31-2015, 09:13 PM
They had to play against more physical defenses that allowed hand-checking and paint camping.

Bankaii
05-31-2015, 09:24 PM
They had to play against more physical defenses that allowed hand-checking and paint camping.
If you're going to be an idiot at least do it right. Post 3 cherry-picked MJ gifs to summarize the defensive schemes of an entire decade of basketball like that other guy does.

Yao Ming's Foot
05-31-2015, 09:46 PM
Because they are more interested in maximizing their team's offensive efficiency overall rather than chasing meaningless individual field goal percentages.

:confusedshrug:

dubeta
05-31-2015, 09:49 PM
Because they are more interested in maximizing their team's offensive efficiency overall rather than chasing meaningless individual field goal percentages.

:confusedshrug:

So missing more shots increases the teams offensive efficiency?

DonDadda59
05-31-2015, 09:56 PM
Same reason Bron didn't come close before or after the Decision Part I.

No big d*ck Wade drawing all the defensive attention.

kennethgriffin
05-31-2015, 09:57 PM
we cant all be 6-9, 270 pound athletic freaks that avoid midrange shots like the plague



lebron scored 80% of his points in the paint or at the free throw line

Yao Ming's Foot
05-31-2015, 09:57 PM
So missing more shots increases the teams offensive efficiency?

Quite possibly.

You are not helping your team if you only take great shots if someone else on your squad ends up taking a lower percentage shot then what you already passed up.

:confusedshrug:

dubeta
05-31-2015, 10:01 PM
Quite possibly.

You are not helping your team if you only take great shots if someone else on your squad ends up taking a lower percentage shot then what you already passed up.

:confusedshrug:

Oh, but there is no example of that happening in NBA history. For example, Wade and Bosh had career highs in efficiency between 2010-2014 if thats what you are referring to.

3ball
05-31-2015, 10:02 PM
Why couldnt Bird, MJ, Kobe ever shoot 56% for a season?



Because previous eras didn't have the spacing or a paint-camping ban that results in this:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/z3ILqf.gif




Instead, there was no spacing and paint-camping was legal, so they faced tougher paint defense, more defenders on the strongside (usually all 5, like below), and had to take tougher shots:


http://i.imgur.com/eyhnnp8.gif




A lot of the time, the paint was so packed, you simply couldn't get in there at all, and had to settle for mid-range:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e026bdb37635f1d39f79bf0ad068f961.gif

dubeta
05-31-2015, 10:04 PM
Because previous eras didn't have the spacing and paint-camping ban that result in this:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/z3ILqf.gif




Instead, there was no spacing and paint-camping was legal, so they faced tougher paint defense and had to take tougher shots:


http://i.imgur.com/eyhnnp8.gif




A lot of the time, the paint was so packed, you simply couldn't get in there, and had to settle for mid-range:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e026bdb37635f1d39f79bf0ad068f961.gif


Explain the players who I referenced who played in todays era

3ball
05-31-2015, 10:05 PM
Explain the players who I referenced who played in todays era
did any of those guys only take a beta, stat-protecting 17 shots per game in any season?.. :confusedshrug:

Yao Ming's Foot
05-31-2015, 10:06 PM
Oh, but there is no example of that happening in NBA history. For example, Wade and Bosh had career highs in efficiency between 2010-2014 if thats what you are referring to.

That's great. They also never had the most efficient team offense in the league despite having the three hall of famers in their prime on in the starting lineup. :confusedshrug:

riseagainst
05-31-2015, 10:07 PM
6-9 270 :roll:


Lebron is barely 6'7 240 pounds

Look at his draftexpress

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/LeBron-James-2967/


he's the exact same size as Kobe, same weight, same leaping ability, same speed

http://blogs.lainformacion.com/asesores-de-apuestas/files/2010/03/kobe-bryant-lebron-james.jpg


Look here, exact same body, same height.


Therefore if lebron shoots higher than Kobe, thats only because of skill, nothing else. They have the same physical ability, only difference is lebrons more skilled.



you are getting really desperate. There used to be a neighbor of mine in my apartment complex that was literally a retard. He lived on welfare because he was too apparently too stupid to get a job because he was a certified retard. You sir are actually more retarded than him because he at least lived away from his parents.

dubeta
05-31-2015, 10:07 PM
did any of those guys only take a beta, stat-protecting 17 shots per game in any season?.. :confusedshrug:

Every one of them has had seasons shooting 17 times or less :confusedshrug:

3ball
05-31-2015, 10:10 PM
Every one of them has had seasons shooting 17 times or less :confusedshrug:
Did any of them play with 2 other top 15 players on their team and the greatest floor-spreader and legacy-saver of all time (Ray Ray)?

Bankaii
05-31-2015, 11:48 PM
Did any of them play with 2 other top 15 players on their team and the greatest floor-spreader and legacy-saver of all time (Ray Ray)?
Jordan had an All-NBA first team/GOAT perimeter defender, and arguably the GOAT rebounder, and someone to bail him out(Kerr), so what's his excuse?

dubeta
05-31-2015, 11:56 PM
Jordan had an All-NBA first team/GOAT perimeter defender, and arguably the GOAT rebounder, and someone to bail him out(Kerr), so what's his excuse?

:lebronamazed:

Droid101
06-01-2015, 12:07 AM
Why did LeBron cherry pick shots for a full season just to try to "shoot" (which were almost all open layups) a better percentage?

Droid101
06-01-2015, 12:08 AM
Lebron is barely 6'7 240 pounds

Banworthy. I'm out.

dubeta
06-01-2015, 12:35 AM
Banworthy. I'm out.

I backed it up with a picture, and a draftexpress link

YOU, stormed in here and began trolling

I wonder which is more banworthy

Lexington Steel
06-01-2015, 12:39 AM
OP getting bodied in his own thread. :yaohappy:

Damn. Not looking good.

warriorfan
06-01-2015, 12:43 AM
OP getting bodied in his own thread. :yaohappy:

Damn. Not looking good.


Kids gotta learn sometime or another

Simple Jack
06-01-2015, 12:54 AM
Why did LeBron cherry pick shots for a full season just to try to "shoot" (which were almost all open layups) a better percentage?

Most of LeBron's FG's were open layups in Miami? What?

sportjames23
06-01-2015, 03:48 AM
Why couldn't Lebron get over 2/5?

Why couldn't Lebron shake Boris Diaw?

Why was Lebron shook when Leonard checked back in the game?

Why does Duncan own Lebron?

Why hasn't Lebron won shit without Wade?

Why does MJ's GOATness rustle your jimmies?

Why does Kobe having more rings than Lebron upset you?


Answer those questions, OP.

sportjames23
06-01-2015, 03:50 AM
Jordan had an All-NBA first team/GOAT perimeter defender, and arguably the GOAT rebounder, and someone to bail him out(Kerr), so what's his excuse?


6/6 is an excuse?

plowking
06-01-2015, 03:55 AM
you are getting really desperate. There used to be a neighbor of mine in my apartment complex that was literally a retard. He lived on welfare because he was too apparently too stupid to get a job because he was a certified retard. You sir are actually more retarded than him because he at least lived away from his parents.

You should know a few things about weight, right?

I mean you are the guy that lied on here about increasing his deadlift by 90lbs in just 4 days after getting caught out on two different posts. :oldlol:

Bankaii
06-01-2015, 04:00 AM
6/6 is an excuse?
Do you see anyone talking about ring count moron? This agenda filled thread is about fg%. Take your insecurities somewhere else.

Young X
06-01-2015, 04:02 AM
Why couldn't Lebron get over 2/5?

Why couldn't Lebron shake Boris Diaw?

Why was Lebron shook when Leonard checked back in the game?

Why does Duncan own Lebron?

Why hasn't Lebron won shit without Wade?

Why does MJ's GOATness rustle your jimmies?

Why does Kobe having more rings than Lebron upset you?


Answer those questions, OP.Why my n!ggas ain't get that cake?

Why is a brother up north better than Jordan that ain't get that break?

sportjames23
06-01-2015, 04:06 AM
Why my n!ggas ain't get that cake?

Why is a brother up north better than Jordan that ain't get that break?


repped for dat Jadakis doe :cheers:

Young X
06-01-2015, 04:37 AM
repped for dat Jadakis doe :cheers:Why did the Cavs get 2 straight #1 picks?

and if he's better than MJ...

Why is Bran about to go 2 for 6?

ILLsmak
06-01-2015, 04:42 AM
MJ shooting 52-4ish for awhile on 30+ ppg was more impressive, imo.

That shit is insane for a guard.

-Smak

riseagainst
06-01-2015, 11:30 AM
You should know a few things about weight, right?

I mean you are the guy that lied on here about increasing his deadlift by 90lbs in just 4 days after getting caught out on two different posts. :oldlol:

making up lies just to insult someone you have never met on an internet forum. Rent free. I can deadlift more than you can ever dream of, little kid.
:lol :oldlol:

Straight_Ballin
06-01-2015, 11:48 AM
Jordan had an All-NBA first team/GOAT perimeter defender, and arguably the GOAT rebounder, and someone to bail him out(Kerr), so what's his excuse?

He doesn't need an excuse. He's 6/6 and didn't collude to do it. What's bron these days? 2/5, 2/6? Dude's not really on my radar these days....

Bankaii
06-01-2015, 02:13 PM
He doesn't need an excuse. He's 6/6 and didn't collude to do it. What's bron these days? 2/5, 2/6? Dude's not really on my radar these days....
Yet you post about him multiple times everyday. Your insecurity is showing again.

f0und
06-01-2015, 03:05 PM
kobe plays like a moron. theres really no good reason why his career high is a pedestrian 46.9%.

as for MJ and Bird, they didnt come join two former alphas of their own teams who willingly took a back seat to make the game easier for THEM.

scm5
06-01-2015, 03:57 PM
Simply put, Lebron is a better opportunistic scorer than probably just about anyone else because of his unique size and athleticism.

This isn't to say that he's not good in creating his own shot, but really, if you're comparing his scoring arsenal to MJ and Kobe's, you're going to have a hard time.

Lebron will punish you if you have any lapse in defense. MJ and Kobe will punish you regardless.

Beastmode88
06-01-2015, 04:16 PM
What a paradox we got here. For someone thats so effiecent in scoring you figured he would be more effecient when it comes to winning the championship.