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3ball
06-01-2015, 03:51 PM
Previous eras players like Bird, Reggie Miller, Dale Ellis and the like got a much higher proportion of their 3-pointers by running off screens.

Today's player benefits from a significantly higher proportion of drive-and-kick 3-pointers, where the 3-point shooter just has to stand in one spot and wait for his defender to go help on penetration.

The drive-and-kick is a post-2005 invention.. It really didn't exist in previous eras other than on an incidental basis - it wasn't an every possession standard like today's game.. Obviously, the 2005 rule changes designed to "open up the middle of the floor" and "increase penetration" is the reason today's game is based on the drive-and-kick.

But again, 3-point shooters like Ray Allen benefited from the rule changes as well as the penetrators.. That's another reason Reggie > Allen, other than Reggie's statistical advantage - Reggie didn't play in the drive-and-kick era.. His game would be magnified in this era.

VengefulAngel
06-01-2015, 03:54 PM
Previous eras players like Bird, Reggie Miller, Dale Ellis and the like got a much higher proportion of their 3-pointers by running off screens.

Today's player benefits from a significantly higher proportion of drive-and-kick 3-pointers, where the 3-point shooter just has to stand in one spot and wait for his defender to go help on penetration.

The drive-and-kick is a post-2005 invention.. It really didn't exist in previous eras other than on an incidental basis - it wasn't an every possession standard like today's game.. Obviously, the 2005 rule changes designed to "open up the middle of the floor" and "increase penetration" is the reason today's game is based on the drive-and-kick.

But again, 3-point shooters like Ray Allen benefited from the rule changes as well as the penetrators.. That's another reason Reggie > Allen, other than Reggie's statistical advantage - Reggie didn't play in the drive-and-kick era.. His game would be magnified in this era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr4K3I1yw1E (Ray Allen running off screens + transition)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6iG4o6pu6g (Steph running off screens)

3ball
06-01-2015, 03:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr4K3I1yw1E (Ray Allen running off screens + transition)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6iG4o6pu6g (Steph running off screens)


From the OP:


"Today's player benefits from a significantly higher proportion of drive-and-kick 3-pointers, where the 3-point shooter just has to stand in one spot and wait for his defender to go help on penetration."

VengefulAngel
06-01-2015, 04:05 PM
From the OP:


"Today's player benefits from a significantly higher proportion of drive-and-kick 3-pointers, where the 3-point shooter just has to stand in one spot and wait for his defender to go help on penetration."

Can i have some stats please. Plus, what's your point?

ShawkFactory
06-01-2015, 04:07 PM
Can i have some stats please. Plus, what's your point?
His point is that professional players these days aren't good enough to run around screens.

Jameerthefear
06-01-2015, 04:22 PM
His point is that professional players these days aren't good enough to run around screens.
:lol

FKAri
06-01-2015, 04:24 PM
The average NBA player in 2015 is better than the average NBA player in 1985. I'm talking about the average not the superstars. Deal with it.