Warriors in 6 if..

[3ball]

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they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.

[MP.Trey]

Warriors don't have to face paint camping though. Asterisk title.

[plowking]

It is as if only Lebron is playing by these rules and seeing these defenses, that OP feels the need only to compare him to Jordan, and strictly post about him.

Just had my doctor friend look over your posting and this seems like a very bad case of rent free.

[LikeABosh]

You live a pathetic existence

[Springsteen]

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look at the GIF above


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[pauk]

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they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.


You mean like this:

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or like this:

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or like this:

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[Straight_Ballin]

You live a pathetic existence

Wow this guy has you so mad....

:lol :lol

[Beastmode88]

3ball vs pauk, let the games begin.

[HelterSkelter]

I can't understand your obssession on spacing.

That's why players like LeBron are headaches for the defense...

One on one defense usually isn't enough.. and when they double team, the spacing gets fcked up at least 60% of the time because because there are hundreds of possible scenarios.

Teams who do a good job in reacting to that are the ones we consider as great defensive teams. Mid 00s Pistons and Pacers, Late 80s Pistons, Duncan's Spurs (when they want too), and some other teams.. too lazy to think of all of them.

So, yeah.. playing guys like LeBron, Kobe, Durant, etc. one on one is not wise, especially on a stage like the finals.

[LikeABosh]

Wow this guy has you so mad....

:lol :lol
Yea, so mad:rolleyes:. More like annoyed because he is cancerous to this forum. Literally all his threads are Lebron vs Jordan somehow with a few gifs thrown in about whatever drivel he is on about

[Moneyshot]

Just had my doctor friend look over your posting and this seems like a very bad case of rent free.


Wow what a lame attempt to be funny lol

[ShawkFactory]

Without reading the OP whatsoever...

If...they guard Lebron in some way that's easier than what Jordan had to deal with.

[3ball]

You mean like this:


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I'd normally make a big deal about the wide open paint in the GIF above, but that's just the way today's game is.. An open paint has been built into today's game either by spacing, or league-mandated by defensive 3 seconds.. So in the GIF above, Lebron has the amazing option of attacking a wide open paint, or pulling up for the jumpshot.

In previous eras, he wouldn't have both options - it's very likely the paint would be too packed and he'd be FORCED to shoot the jumpshot:


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or like this:


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^^^^ Only 1 defender on strongside due to spacing (specifically weakside floor-spreaders that have drawn all defenders away from strongside)..

In previous eras, the strongside would contain all 5 defenders because there was no such spacing, so Lebron wouldn't have as much time or room to make his move in the exact same spot:


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or like this:


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Lebron only faces 2 defenders on strongside - again, this porous strongside resistance is due to every team's 3-point shooting and spacing strategy that reduces the number of strongside defenders by using weakside floor-spreaders to draw defenders away.

In addition to enabling 2-defender strongsides for Lebron to go against, the spacing also forces help defenders to be further away from Lebron than they would've been in previous eras (that's the definition of "spacing", meaning more space).. The extra distance/spacing gives Lebron more time and room to operate (he has all day in the GIF).

The impact of today's spacing, including the aforementioned low number of strongside defenders along with the further distance that defenders must help from, is a stark contrast from previous eras when all 10 players would be INSIDE the 3-point line, and therefore closer to post players, while the lack of spacing on the weakside would keep all 5 defenders on strongside, like this:


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[J Shuttlesworth]

Don't worry 3ball. You'll get your wish. Kyrie isn't close to 100% and they say he doesn't look like himself in practice. No way LeBron can beat a team as good as the warriors without a legit 2nd or 3rd option.

[3ball]

Don't worry 3ball. You'll get your wish. Kyrie isn't close to 100% and they say he doesn't look like himself in practice. No way LeBron can beat a team as good as the warriors without a legit 2nd or 3rd option.
horseshit.. it's tendinitis... that's not even an injury

[J Shuttlesworth]

horseshit.. it's tendinitis... that's not even an injury
Have you seen him play in the last few weeks? He's looked like maybe 50% of the player he was. Wade also had tendinitis in his knee the years he missed a bunch of games, but not sure if it's the same kind.

But yeah if Kyrie looks reminiscent to how he looked in the last two rounds, it should be a cakewalk for GSW.

[3ball]

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I can't understand your obssession on spacing.



Spacing isn't just some word people say - it has actual meaning.. Specifically, it allows today's player to face fewer strongside defenders because weakside floor-spreaders take them away.

Otoh, the lack of spacing in previous eras usually kept all 5 defenders on the strongside (as seen in GIF above), since there were no weakside floor-spreaders to draw them away.





That's why (spacing ) players like LeBron are headaches for the defense...


Exactly.. The spacing is why Lebron is a headache.. Without spacing, he'd face more defenders on the strongside.. He'd also have less room and time to operate because help defenders would be closer.






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and when they double team, the spacing gets fcked up



Exactly, that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one Lebron (and my grandmother) can easily make to #20 Mosgov above.. That's how easy spacing makes passing.





Mid 00s Pistons and Pacers, Late 80s Pistons, Duncan's Spurs (when they want too), and some other teams.. too lazy to think of all of them.


Spurs wouldn't win a ring in the 80's.. Think about it - Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is nowhere near Bird/McHale/Parish/DJ.. Magic/Kareem/Worthy/Scott/Green/Cooper.. Isiah/Dumars/Laimbeer/Rodman/Dantley.. Moses Malone/Dr. J/Toney/Cheeks/Jones.. MJ/Scottie





So, yeah.. playing guys like LeBron, Kobe, Durant, etc. one on one is not wise, especially on a stage like the finals.


Even though the spacing allows today's player easier drives and weak paint resistance (which leads to easier domination), the Warriors still can't help too early on Lebron - the spacing simply leaves players TOO OPEN and the passes are too obvious and easy to make, like the previous Mosgov example..

The spacing enhances the effect of good ball movement - the supporting cast simply gets looks that are way too good if you move the ball, just like the entire Cavs supporting cast did in the Atlanta series.. So you don't want Lebron moving the ball - stay at home, and let him hold or dribble the ball as long as possible.
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[3ball]

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Warriors in 6 if they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.


This appears to have been the case..

And I guess it's not rocket science.. Letting someone take a shot they only convert 32.5% of the time is better than ANY OTHER OPTION DEFENSIVELY (indeed, Lebron shot a horrific 32.5% on isolations in 2015 playoffs).

The only interesting question is whether an opponent benefits more from letting Lebron isolate at 32.5% a pop, or letting Deandre Jordan shoot FT's at 50%.. What's helps a team more: letting Lebron isolate or hack-a-Jordan?
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[Droid101]

Holy crap pauk got obliterated in this thread. They played his ass straight up.

[JerrySeinfeld]

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they play Lebron straight up and don't help too early off his teammates - stay at home on his teammates and shut them down like the Spurs did last year.. today's spacing makes loading up on one player impossible.

look at the GIF above - should Lebron really be given props for finding the wide open Mosgov (#20)?... obviously not - my grandmother could make that play..

that's what spacing does - it makes it too obvious if you try to load up on one player, and too easy to find the open man.. said another way - the Jordan Rules would never work in today's game - the spacing makes double-teaming too obvious and results in easy, obvious passes like the one to Mosgov above.

3ball right yet again, god damn.

No wonder all the LeBron stans constantly ignore the substance of his arguments and instead always try to change the subject.

[Angel Face]

Good prediction and analysis. :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

OP was on the money

Warriors basically said "Lebron you suck here's single coverage now hold this L"

[Straight_Ballin]

Yea, so mad:rolleyes:. More like annoyed because he is cancerous to this forum. Literally all his threads are Lebron vs Jordan somehow with a few gifs thrown in about whatever drivel he is on about

And yet what he predicted is exactly what happened. Honestly you are better off watching old Jordan vids than this Lebron crap.

[3ball]

MJ fam still winning

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