will lebron forever be known as a guy who lacked "killer instinct"

[kennethgriffin]

every time i hear a guy pick kobe over lebron or jordan over lebron in a prime vs prime debate

its cause they had "killer instinct"

they took over. never deferred. wanted the ball/shot/pressure/blame and never ran to another mans team



stat geeks can come out and say "lebrons efficient though!"

lol thats cause he passes up the tough shots in the clutch more often than not... that turn around to win it vs the bulls was a rare time lebron wanted to take a tough shot. he's hit a few. but 9 times out of 10 lebron would shy away



padding fg% in the clutch and having team mates take the pressure shots half the time has made lebron into a magic johnson ( without all the titles )



imagine if magic only had 1 real title ( and it was off the back of a team mates finals saving moment )

magic made up for his passive mentality by demanding the ball in crunch time during important moments.

like the hook shot to win a finals game. that combined with his 5 titles are the reason people give him a pass for "passing"

lebron just passes and loses. this is the reason "the magic johnson of our era" is ridiculed and passed up for guys like kobe and jordan in all time debates for "prime vs prime"



this is why guys like larry bird, michael jordan, shaquille oneal and many more go public with their picks of kobe over bron

my question to ISH is...

if killer instinct = alpha

whats the opposite mean?

[Cocaine80s]

http://i.imgur.com/WeokHKK.jpg

[navy]

http://i.imgur.com/WeokHKK.jpg
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55763299.jpg

[imnew09]

http://i.imgur.com/WeokHKK.jpg

Just shows that Kobe got that killer instinct. Never afraid of taking big shots

[Young X]

Why do you look at passing like it's a negative? People gave Magic a pass for passing? What?

[HelterSkelter]

Just shows that Kobe got that killer instinct. Never afraid of taking big shots



and I'm sure you clowned on LeBron for missing a lot too.. so.. :confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

http://i.imgur.com/WeokHKK.jpg






stat geeks can come out and say "lebrons efficient though!"

lol thats cause he passes up the tough shots in the clutch more often than not... that turn around to win it vs the bulls was a rare time lebron wanted to take a tough shot. he's hit a few. but 9 times out of 10 lebron would shy away



padding fg% in the clutch and having team mates take the pressure shots half the time has made lebron into a magic johnson ( without all the titles )




http://img.pandawhale.com/76743-dumb-and-dumber-laughing-gif-J-VtJD.gif

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Just shows that Kobe got that killer instinct. Never afraid of taking big shots

So LeBron made more on fewer attempts and that's a bad thing?

[LikeABosh]

No, he won't. Especially after winning 2 straight FMVPs and hitting more playoff game winners people have woken up and seen the data. Lebron is an all time great clutch performer. Now matter how hard your gang of pathetic kobe stands try to say other wise. People outside of your circle of basement dwelling, unemployed, virgins know the truth. After Lebron wins another FMVP this year I suggest you seek counseling, maybe check your self in to a mental health institution for a while so you don't do anything stupid.

[plowking]

http://img.pandawhale.com/76743-dumb-and-dumber-laughing-gif-J-VtJD.gif

How do you pad a game tying or game winning shot in the playoffs?

[imnew09]

So LeBron made more on fewer attempts and that's a bad thing?


Idk , you tell me. If that's not lack of killer instinct, then idk what its

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

espn likes to do up make shift game winner lists btw... they make a stipulation like "between this time and that time on the clock and only during this time of the year since 2005" or some shit lol

this is the real list


[QUOTE]


1. May 09, 1999: Lakers 101 - Rockets 100 (PO, game-winning FTs w/ 5.3 secs)

2. Dec. 27, 1999: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (game-winning FTs w/ 8.6 secs)

3. May 10, 2000: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (PO, jumper over Kidd w/ 2.6 secs)


4. Nov. 16, 2000: Lakers 112 - Kings 110 (OT, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, jumper over Divac w/ 24 secs) *Kings intentially foul Bryant w/ 4 secs, +2FTs

5. Feb. 07, 2001: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper over Marion w/ 2.7 sec)

6. Feb. 13, 2001: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT layup/and-1 w/ 4.8 secs)

7. Jan. 02, 2002: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (off-reb and jumper w/ 55 secs)

8. Feb. 22, 2002: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (buzzer-beater, jumper over Lynch)


9. Mar. 24, 2002: Lakers 97 - Kings 96 (jumper over Christie w/ 36 secs) *Webber jump-hook w/ 29 secs

10. May 12, 2002: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (PO, off-reb and put-back w/ 5.1 secs)

11. Dec. 06, 2002: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (turn-around jumper w/ 8 secs)


12. Dec. 22, 2002: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (layup over Peterson w/ 33.2 secs) *Raptors intentially foul Horry w/ 8.5 secs, +FT

13. April 04, 2003: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater, jumper over Battier)

14. April 06, 2003: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (OT, game-tying jumper for OT, jumper over Marion w/ 28.6 sec)


15. May 11, 2003: Lakers 99 - Spurs 95 (PO, FT w/ 48 secs) *Spurs intentially foul Bryant (twice) w/ 14.2 secs, +3FTs

16. Dec. 19, 2003: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (buzzer-beater, fade-away over Barry)

17. Feb. 17, 2004: Lakers 89 - Blazers 86 (left-handed layup w/ 31.8 secs) *Blazers intentially foul Bryant w/ 7 secs, +FT

18. Mar. 03, 2004: Lakers 96 - Rockets 93 (jumper over Yao w/ 32 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Fisher w/ 9.8 secs, +2FTs

19. Mar. 21, 2004: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT jumper over Van Horn w/ 25.1 sec)

20. April 14, 2004: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT buzzer beater, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, fall-away 3-pointer)

21. April 25, 2004: Lakers 92 - Rockets 88 (PO, OT layup/and-1 over Mobley /w 40 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Malone w/ 6 secs, +FT

22. Mar. 12, 2005: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (jumper over Bogans w/ 0.9 secs)

23. Nov. 02, 2005: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT jumper over Najera w/ 0.6 secs)

24. Dec. 04, 2005: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (game-winning FTs w/ 7 secs)


25.Dec 12, 2005: Los Angeles 109, Dallas 106: 3-pointer over Adrian Griffin with 35 seconds left.


26. Jan. 07, 2006: Lakers 112 - Clippers 109 (tear-drop over Brand w/ 11 secs) *Parker fastbreak-dunk w/ 4.4 secs

27. Jan. 12, 2006: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (jumper over James w/ 8.6 secs)

28. April 30, 2006: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (PO, OT buzzer-beater, game-tying tear-drop for OT, jumper over Diaw)

29. Jan. 14, 2008: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT jumper over Green w/ 4.3 secs)


30. May 21, 2008: Lakers 89 - Spurs 85 (PO, jumper w/ 23.9 secs) *Spurs intentionally foul Vujacic w/ 7 secs, +2FTs

31. Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jack w/ 3 secs)

32. Jan. 13, 2009: Lakers 105 - Rockets 100 (3-pointer over Battier w/ 27 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Gasol (twice) w/ 7 secs, +3FTs

33. Dec. 04, 2009: Lakers 108 - Heat 107 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer over Wade)

34. Dec. 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106 (OT buzzer-beater, jumper over Bell)

35. Jan. 01, 2010: Lakers 109 - Kings 108 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer)


36. Jan. 13, 2010: Lakers 100 - Mavericks 95 (jumper over Howard w/ 28 secs) *Mavericks intentionally foul Farmar w/ 5 secs, +3FTs

36. Jan. 31, 2010: Lakers 90 - Celtics 89 (jumper over Allen w/ 7.3 secs)

38. Feb. 23, 2010: Lakers 99 - Grizzlies 98 (3-pointer over Gay w/ 4.3 secs)

39. Mar. 09, 2010: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (jumper over Wright w/ 1.9 secs)

40. Feb. 12, 2012: Lakers 93

[LikeABosh]

espn likes to do up make shift game winner lists btw... they make a stipulation like "between this time and that time on the clock and only during this time of the year since 2005" or some shit lol

this is the real list
And I'm sure Lebron has made a ton of those clutch shots as well. If I was an unemployed virgin, I would scour the web to compile the data.

[HelterSkelter]

Idk , you tell me. If that's not lack of killer instinct, then idk what its

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg


It was funny from 2011-2012

:roll: the URL. A special folder for LeBron... :oldlol:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Idk , you tell me. If that's not lack of killer instinct, then idk what its

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg

That's from the 2011 finals, right? There's no denying that LeBron choked in that series but his playoff performances since have been elite, no? 2014 is iffy as he did some of his scoring in garbage time but it's not like Miami had any shot of winning against SA that year (at least in my eyes going into the finals).

[HelterSkelter]

And I'm sure Lebron has made a ton of those clutch shots as well. If I wasn't an unemployed virgin, I would scour the web to compile the data.


:oldlol: :oldlol: fix that typo before they find it

[kennethgriffin]

How do you pad a game tying or game winning shot in the playoffs?


you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about

[plowking]

you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about


Your posts are so cringe.

[plowking]

:roll: the URL. A special folder for LeBron... :oldlol:


:oldlol: :oldlol:

Good find.

[funnystuff]

Idk , you tell me. If that's not lack of killer instinct, then idk what its

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg
DAT URL :roll: :roll:


You know its been a long day for Lebron haters if all they can fall back on is referring to a single quarter in 1 series 4 years ago or an all star game. :(

[LikeABosh]

you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about
It turns out Basketball Reference has a handy shot finder for shit like this. In shots to tie or take the lead with 1 minute or less in the 4th q. or OT Kobe is 94/279. Lebron is 67/180. What a surprise, Lebron shoots better in the clutch. Before you say Kobe shoots more in the clutch, just remember he has played like 500 more games than Lebron.

[SouBeachTalents]

you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about

The last thing in the world I wanna do is get in a LeBron/Kobe back in forth, but it's hilarious to me you're so obsessed with this when Kobe's had more teammates make clutch shots than any other player of this era

Horry's GW against the Kings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQDsZljAOY

Fisher's .4 shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE

Fisher's 3 against the Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VquoPzITjSI

Artest's GW against the Suns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4

Artest's 3 against the Celtics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

Those are 4 series altering shots, with Artest's 3 being the dagger in Game 7. Do they make Kobe any less of a clutch player? Of course not, just like Paxson and Kerr don't make Jordan any less clutch.


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about

It's also ironic that you always bring up the Allen 3, yet never mention LeBron took a 3 to tie the game right before that. Or is taking and missing a clutch shot only beneficial when it comes to Kobe?

[nzahir]

you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about
:facepalm
This was the stupidest shit I ever heard. Just know that lebron has more game winners and has hit MORE clutch shots than kobe in the playoffs and has shot LESS of them and is also YOUNGER than kobe. One more finals mvp and lebron is above kobe for me no arguement.
Lebron has 3 more mvps, already tied in fmvps, obviously has the better stats in regular season and post season. Kobe just has more rings as a sidekick which isnt as important; finals mvps, mvps, and numbers matter, Being on a team that wins doesnt or we would have to say guys like fisher and horry are right up there with kobe

[plowking]

The last thing in the world I wanna do is get in a LeBron/Kobe back in forth, but it's hilarious to me you're so obsessed with this when Kobe's had more teammates make clutch shots than any other player of this era

Horry's GW against the Kings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQDsZljAOY

Fisher's .4 shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE

Fisher's 3 against the Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VquoPzITjSI

Artest's GW against the Suns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4

Artest's 3 against the Celtics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

Those are 4 series altering shots, with Artest's 3 being the dagger in Game 7. Do they make Kobe any less of a clutch player? Of course not, just like Paxson and Kerr don't make Jordan any less clutch.



It's also ironic that you always bring up the Allen 3, yet never mention LeBron took a 3 to tie the game right before that. Or is taking and missing a clutch shot only beneficial when it comes to Kobe?

Not even kidding when I say that this is some of the biggest ownage I've seen on this forum.

[HelterSkelter]

SouBeachTalents - Agreed on every word.

That's what I've always wondered. Kobe has had more teammates make SERIES-ALTERING shots than any other in this era... and yet, his fans still have the audacity to bring Ray Allen every time.

[imnew09]

DAT URL :roll: :roll:


You know its been a long day for Lebron haters if all they can fall back on is referring to a single quarter in 1 series 4 years ago or an all star game. :(


Nah man. He choked again last year versus Spurs...

2/5

[HelterSkelter]

Nah man. He choked again last year versus Spurs...

2/5


You're know the guy that has a LeBron folder on photobucket. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[imnew09]

You're know the guy that has a LeBron folder on photobucket. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

If you google Lebron james 4th final stats you will see that pic everywhere

Btw i got that sh** off google

[gyu]

OP:
http://www.cavstheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/boring_shots-520x250.png

[HelterSkelter]

If you google Lebron james 4th final stats you will see that pic everywhere


That shit is almost 4 years old.. everyone who's closely following the NBA knows that pic/stat.




Btw i got that sh** off google



And instead of just copying the URL... you have to save it into your private account... :roll:

[Lebron23]

He already have more buzzer beaters and clutch shots than Kobe Bryant in the playoffs.

[kennethgriffin]

i just find it funny how people still argue with me even though all i'm doing is repeating a popular sentiment among the top brass of those affiliated with the corresponding sport


its like if 98% of doctors came out tomorrow and said "cancer kills"


then a few smokers still refuted the evidence somehow

[SpaceJammeR]

The last thing in the world I wanna do is get in a LeBron/Kobe back in forth, but it's hilarious to me you're so obsessed with this when Kobe's had more teammates make clutch shots than any other player of this era

Horry's GW against the Kings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQDsZljAOY

Fisher's .4 shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE

Fisher's 3 against the Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VquoPzITjSI

Artest's GW against the Suns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4

Artest's 3 against the Celtics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

Those are 4 series altering shots, with Artest's 3 being the dagger in Game 7. Do they make Kobe any less of a clutch player? Of course not, just like Paxson and Kerr don't make Jordan any less clutch.



It's also ironic that you always bring up the Allen 3, yet never mention LeBron took a 3 to tie the game right before that. Or is taking and missing a clutch shot only beneficial when it comes to Kobe?


sticky this post. cuz kobe's been bailed out way more than any other player. this and the fact he got to ride ships with shaq. smdh kobe the luckiest player ever.

ohh yeah and no one should ever doubt lebrons killer instinct after seeing that legendary game 6 performance against boston and detroit piston game.

[Kobe_6/8]

Why do you look at passing like it's a negative? People gave Magic a pass for passing? What?

Magic was a Point Guard, he had to pass.

The GOAT SG/SF must look to shoot before pass. Alpha mentality.

[ShawkFactory]

I can't tell what's more pointless, the Lebron/Kobe debates or the Brady/Peyton ones.

[catch24]

you pad percentages by passing up most of your difficult looks


kobe will take the game winner even if hes doubled... he wants the blame if they lose


lebron usually only takes the shot if he can get a great look.



you can say "ok well lebrons playing smart basketball" but thats something a role player does cause they know their limitations


sure your percentage looks better if you lack killer instinct and play within the team concept. but when your team mate misses. then youre left saying "what if"

its better to find out if you could have made the shot. but lebron fans wouldnt understand this


even if i asked them.. "whats better to look at/remember... the ray allen shot... or lebrons from round 2 vs chicago"


even though the ray allen shot was much bigger/more important. lebron fans still look back more fondly to the bron vs bulls winner


thats because youre getting a taste of what being alpha is all about

Come on man.. Cut the mindless zombie act that defends Kobe at all costs. You're basically penalizing LeBron for making the correct basketball play. lol.

I get what you're saying, but this isn't a 1v1 tournament - and Kobe, as much of a fan I am of his, does not deliver in those situations as advertised.

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe's 2013 Raptors game was more clutch than LeBJ's whole career.

[ISHGoat]

please ban op mods

[sd3035]

And I'm sure Lebron has made a ton of those clutch shots as well. If I wasn't an unemployed virgin, I would scour the web to compile the data.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

at least you're honest

[riseagainst]

And I'm sure Lebron has made a ton of those clutch shots as well. If I wasn't an unemployed virgin, I would scour the web to compile the data.

:lol

[zoom17]

I don't get why OP isn't banned posters have been banned for less trolling.

[ImKobe]

http://i.imgur.com/WeokHKK.jpg

it's actually 7/27

Kobe has taken more than either of them

shows how much more ALPHA Kobe is

2013 Kobe is more clutch than either MJ/Lebron

[BBallZen83]

it's actually 7/27

Kobe has taken more than either of them

shows how much more ALPHA Kobe is

2013 Kobe is more clutch than either MJ/Lebron

I believe the way it goes, in order to be clutch, you need to make said shots. I believe this would be an example of brashness, not clutchness, but I guess your not much of one for semantics.

[BBallZen83]

And as far as the OP goes, will Kenneth Griffin forever be known as the guy with Lebron tourettes?

[LikeABosh]

i just find it funny how people still argue with me even though all i'm doing is repeating a popular sentiment among the top brass of those affiliated with the corresponding sport


its like if 98% of doctors came out tomorrow and said "cancer kills"


then a few smokers still refuted the evidence somehow




No, it's the opposite. You have been bombarded with stats and facts that prove you're wrong and you choose to ignore them

[smoovegittar]

I don't get why OP isn't banned posters have been banned for less trolling.


Because the dude is a train wreck and an attraction.

3 years from now when Kobe is on Sportscenter and LeBron is still putting up stats he'll pipe down.

[Bankaii]

Because the dude is a train wreck and an attraction.

3 years from now when Kobe is on Sportscenter and LeBron is still putting up stats he'll pipe down.
I'd actually like to see Kobe on Inside the NBA. He's the only one that can counteract Shaq's ego and rings. It'd be hilarious.

[smoovegittar]

I'd actually like to see Kobe on Inside the NBA. He's the only one that can counteract Shaq's ego and rings. It'd be hilarious.

I agree. And don't get me wrong; I like Kobe.

[ISHGoat]

kill one man, youre a murderer
kill 10, youre a serial killer
kill 100, youre a mass murderer
kill 10000, youre a conqueror

troll once, ok
troll 10 times, youre a troll
troll 100 times, temp ban for excessive trolling
troll 10000 times, youre a cash cow for jeff, immunity from mods

[imnew09]

That shit is almost 4 years old.. everyone who's closely following the NBA knows that pic/stat.






And instead of just copying the URL... you have to save it into your private account... :roll:

Thats what i did dumb a$$ . If you copy the Url of that pic it gives you the photobucket link. Oh well not surprised u didnt know

[red1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg

[Hey Yo]

Because the dude is a train wreck and an attraction.

3 years from now when Kobe is on Sportscenter and LeBron is still putting up stats he'll pipe down.
Kobe's a loner who doesn't have the social skills for TV.

Nothing wrong with that, just it is what it is.

[Ne 1]

That's from the 2011 finals, right? There's no denying that LeBron choked in that series but his playoff performances since have been elite, no? 2014 is iffy as he did some of his scoring in garbage time but it's not like Miami had any shot of winning against SA that year (at least in my eyes going into the finals).
Don't forget, he laid an egg in the '07 Finals as well. 2013 and 2014 weren't that great either for a player of his caliber. 2013- saved by Jesus himself. Was underwhelming for the majority of the series and was pretty much an afterthought until the 4th quarter of game 6 where he was money until he turned the ball over twice and bricked a 3. He was brilliant in game 7 though, so it's not that big of a deal in terms of his legacy though. 2014- underwhelming again for the vast majority of the series outside of that brilliant game 2. Was clearly outplayed by a role player during the 2 biggest games of the series on his home court. It was very similar to Durant's 2012 Finals. His efficency was great but the rest of his game just wasn't there. His defense was mediocre, his playmaking wasn't the same and he was a turn over machine.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Don't forget, he laid an egg in the '07 Finals as well. 2013 and 2014 weren't that great either for a player of his caliber. 2013- saved by Jesus himself. Was underwhelming for the majority of the series and was pretty much an afterthought until the 4th quarter of game 6 where he was money until he turned the ball over twice and bricked a 3. He was brilliant in game 7 though, so it's not that big of a deal in terms of his legacy though. 2014- underwhelming again for the vast majority of the series outside of that brilliant game 2. Was clearly outplayed by a role player during the 2 biggest games of the series on his home court. It was very similar to Durant's 2012 Finals. His efficency was great but the rest of his game just wasn't there. His defense was mediocre, his playmaking wasn't the same and he was a turn over machine.

Really gonna fault him for 2007? First finals appearance, shitty supporting cast, facing a fantastic Spurs squad. He could've had a 2012/2013 performance, Cleveland still wasn't winning that year.

For clarity's sake, the definition of choked:


In sports, a "choke" is the failure of an athlete or an athletic team to win a game or tournament when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event.

That definition only really applies to 2011, possibly to 2014 to a lesser degree (Not sure if Miami was favored? I had SA in 5 or 6). LeBron cost Miami a ring in 2011, no denying it, but 2007 doesn't come close to fitting that definition.

[Hey Yo]

Don't forget, he laid an egg in the '07 Finals as well. 2013 and 2014 weren't that great either for a player of his caliber. 2013- saved by Jesus himself. Was underwhelming for the majority of the series and was pretty much an afterthought until the 4th quarter of game 6 where he was money until he turned the ball over twice and bricked a 3. He was brilliant in game 7 though, so it's not that big of a deal in terms of his legacy though. 2014- underwhelming again for the vast majority of the series outside of that brilliant game 2. Was clearly outplayed by a role player during the 2 biggest games of the series on his home court. It was very similar to Durant's 2012 Finals. His efficency was great but the rest of his game just wasn't there. His defense was mediocre, his playmaking wasn't the same and he was a turn over machine.
That stuff will happen due to fatigue considering the load he had carried for the majority of his career. He didn't have the luxury of having a rebounding machine or multiple lock down defenders. Dude had to do it all for the Heat his last 3 seasons there.

btw...paragraphs are your friends.

[Lebron23]

Kobe fans love criticizing LeBron's NBA Finals Stats, But Kobe is only averaging 1 more ppg than Kobe, And LBJ Beats him in the other statistical categories.

Lebron James

27 games - 24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 tov, 46.3 FG%, 76.1 FT%, 54.6 TS%


Kobe Bryant

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 tov, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%

[Hey Yo]

Really gonna fault him for 2007? First finals appearance, shitty supporting cast, facing a fantastic Spurs squad. He could've had a 2012/2013 performance, Cleveland still wasn't winning that year.

For clarity's sake, the definition of choked:



That definition only really applies to 2011, possibly to 2014 to a lesser degree (Not sure if Miami was favored? I had SA in 5 or 6). LeBron cost Miami a ring in 2011, no denying it, but 2007 doesn't come close to fitting that definition.
Does that mean Drew Gooden cost Cleveland a ring in 2007? Wade was the captain still in 2011. LeBron led 2 games in scoring and had a triple double in another.

To say he was the sole reason Miami lost in 2011 is dumb while giving Dallas no credit.

[Ne 1]

LeBron actually had a great chance to live up to the hype and win a ring in 2007. People forget that the Spurs should have lost in the WCSF that year but were saved only by Cheap Shot Rob and David Stern. Against this opponent the Cavs were competitive.

Game 1: SAS 85, CLE 76. Lebron 4 for 16 (25%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 2: SAS 103, CLE 92. Lebron 9 for 21 (43%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 3: SAS 75, CLE 72. Lebron 9 for 23 (39%) and 5 turnovers.
Game 4: SAS 83, CLE 82 Lebron 10 for 30 (33%) and 6 turnovers.

If LeBron would have showed up the Cavs could have won that series. It easily would have been 2-2 going to Cleveland for game 5 and perhaps even 3-1 if the "GOAT" LeBron showed up.

[Lebron23]

LeBron actually had a great chance to live up to the hype and win a ring in 2007. People forget that the Spurs should have lost in the WCSF that year but were saved only by Cheap Shot Rob and David Stern. Against this opponent the Cavs were competitive.

Game 1: SAS 85, CLE 76. Lebron 4 for 16 (25%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 2: SAS 103, CLE 92. Lebron 9 for 21 (43%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 3: SAS 75, CLE 72. Lebron 9 for 23 (39%) and 5 turnovers.
Game 4: SAS 83, CLE 82 Lebron 10 for 30 (33%) and 6 turnovers.

If LeBron would have showed up the Cavs could have won that series. It easily would have been 2-2 going to Cleveland for game 5 and perhaps even 3-1 if the "GOAT" LeBron showed up.


LeBron was only 22 yrs.old in 2007. And He had a much better finals stats than Kobe's in 2000.

[SouBeachTalents]

Does that mean Drew Gooden cost Cleveland a ring in 2007? Wade was the captain still in 2011. LeBron led 2 games in scoring and had a triple double in another.

To say he was the sole reason Miami lost in 2011 is dumb while giving Dallas no credit.

You can give Dallas credit, but when a teams co best player has a NINE point drop off in scoring average and scores a grand total of 6 points in 4 consecutive razor thin 4th quarters, that dude deserves a shit ton of the blame. You can say whatever you want, LeBron will always get the blame for losing the 2011 Finals, no matter what retarded argument you try to give

[pauk]

Only delusionally to the likes of you....

[smoovegittar]

Kobe's a loner who doesn't have the social skills for TV.

Nothing wrong with that, just it is what it is.

First sentence about OP, not Bryant.

[HelterSkelter]

Thats what i did dumb a$$ . If you copy the Url of that pic it gives you the photobucket link. Oh well not surprised u didnt know


Here's what I mean you dumbass...


when you saw that pic online... you saved it into your private account... instead of just copying the URL whenever you want to post it here on ISH or whatever.


....And you have a special folder for LeBron. :roll: :applause: fcking pathetic.

rent free boyeeee.

[Ne 1]

LeBron was only 22 yrs.old in 2007. And He had a much better finals stats than Kobe's in 2000.
Well his 2007 Finals, it's not really the fact that he lost that series, but that he performed so far below what you would have expected from him is why it's a black mark. He averaged 22/7/7, but he shot 35% from the field, 20% on 3's and 69% from the line while averaging 6 turnovers per game and on 23 shots per game. That's horrendous for a player of James' caliber. Although I do give him somewhat of a pass for losing since nobody really expected the Cavs to beat the Spurs, but if he even played a little bit better, the series would have been closer instead of them being swept, specifically in Game's 3 and 4, it would have been 2-2 going to Cleveland. It's a black mark on his resume in a way not because he lost, but because of how poorly he played by his standards even back then. Although I don't really judge him based on that too much because he wasn't in his prime yet. Part of that was him being exposed as a terrible shooter. (For the entire season, he shot just 34.6% from 16-23 feet, 31.9% on 3s and 69.8% from the line.)

[Taller than CP3]

It's funny how he finally quit comparing himself to Kobe and MJ knowing he's never going to be as good as them since he's about to go 2/6, so now he says he grew up wanting to be like AI, but he can't compare himself to AI either because Lebron doesn't have AI's killer instinct.

[LikeABosh]

It's funny how he finally quit comparing himself to Kobe and MJ knowing he's never going to be as good as them since he's about to go 2/6, so now he says he grew up wanting to be like AI, but he can't compare himself to AI either because Lebron doesn't have AI's killer instinct.
Your whole world is going to come crashing down on you when Lebron wins the chip and FMVP this year. :oldlol:. Keep enjoying the 2/6 phrase for now because in a few weeks Lebron will have 3 FMVPs. Lebron vs. Kobe won't even be comparable.

[HelterSkelter]

It's funny how he finally quit comparing himself to Kobe and MJ knowing he's never going to be as good as them since he's about to go 2/6, so now he says he grew up wanting to be like AI, but he can't compare himself to AI either because Lebron doesn't have AI's killer instinct.


I don't think he ever did... if he did.. I'm positive it's once or twice max.

It's the media and his haters that keep bringing it up...

[KiiiiNG]

i love how mega lebron stans get so bent out of shape over the killer instinct discussion

even without a strong killer instinct lebron is still a better baller than kobe. so whats to get mad about?

kobe has more 'killer instinct' than lebron. but not as good of a player.