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3ball
06-02-2015, 10:55 AM
The 1992 Blazers had 5 guys who were All-Stars around that time:

Terry Porter (91', 93')
Clyde Drexler (86', 87', 89'-94', 96', 97')
Kevin Duckworth (89', 91')
Clifford Robinson (94')
Buck Williams (82', 83, 86'... All-Defensive Team in 82', 83', 88', 89', 90', 91', 92').

They also had great wing athlete/defender Jerome Kersey.

What roster has Lebron defeated that is as good as this?

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:02 AM
Don't even know why I'm indulging you but whatever. Lebron defeated the unbelievably stacked, heavy favored Thunder in 5 games. Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka :eek:

BlazerRed
06-02-2015, 11:08 AM
Don't even know why I'm indulging you but whatever. Lebron defeated the unbelievably stacked, heavy favored Thunder in 5 games. Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka :eek:
You mean a team of kids who hadn't proven anything?

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:10 AM
You mean a team of kids who hadn't proven anything?
As opposed to NBA greats like Buck Williams and Kevin Duckworth?:yaohappy:

3ball
06-02-2015, 11:11 AM
Don't even know why I'm indulging you but whatever. Lebron defeated the unbelievably stacked, heavy favored Thunder in 5 games. Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka :eek:
Durant and company were babies and were not favored - the Heat were the ones returning to the Finals - they were the favorite.

Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.

OKC was a young team with a horrifically suboptimal style of play - the same kind that got the USA beat in 2006 World Games by Euroleague.. Almost every Finals participant in history would've beaten OKC that year, except for like the 2001 Sixers or 2002 Nets or something like that.

tmacattack33
06-02-2015, 11:13 AM
Somebody's scared Lebron might win a ring with a team that MJ wouldn't have even gotten past the ECF with. :oldlol:

hitmanyr2k
06-02-2015, 11:15 AM
Terry Porter was on fire in the '92 playoffs. I remember he was shooting as well as anyone right before the Finals similar to Curry. The Bulls defense slowed him down considerably though.

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:18 AM
Durant and company were babies and were not favored - the Heat were the ones returning to the Finals - they were the favorite.

Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.

OKC was a young team with a horrifically suboptimal style of play - the same kind that got the USA beat in 2006 World Games by Euroleague.. Almost every Finals participant in history would've beaten OKC that year, except for like the 2001 Sixers or 2002 Nets or something like that.
OKC was favored by NBA analysts and by Vegas. Just because u spout bullshit doesn't make it true.

3ball
06-02-2015, 11:19 AM
OKC was favored by NBA analysts and by Vegas. Just because u spout bullshit doesn't make it true.
Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.
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LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:21 AM
Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.
Harden was 6MOY and destroyed the Spurs in the WCF. Your revisionist history is disgusting.

Trollsmasher
06-02-2015, 11:21 AM
I don't know any of those players apart from Drexler

Do oldfa*s actually consider this to be a good team?:roll:

Ne 1
06-02-2015, 11:22 AM
Somebody's scared Lebron might win a ring with a team that MJ wouldn't have even gotten past the ECF with. :oldlol:
Jordan wouldn't have beat this years Celtics, Bulls and Hawks? :roll:

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:22 AM
I don't know any of those players apart from Drexler

Do oldfa*s actually consider this to be a good team?:roll:
Clifford Robinson coming off the bench dropping 7/4/2 on 38% shooting in 92' playoffs. :bowdown:

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:23 AM
Jordan wouldn't have beat this years Celtics, Bulls and Hawks? :roll:
1-9 without Pippen.

3ball
06-02-2015, 11:31 AM
Harden was 6MOY and destroyed the Spurs in the WCF. Your revisionist history is disgusting.


Harden was a bench player that averaged 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in 2012 playoffs... that's LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.. So don't overrate it.

And in the Finals - he shit the bed off the bench, for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG.

Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does), and Durant stood by being passive-aggressive.. They employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1, while Brooks twiddled his thumbs and whistled his favorite tune.

A bunch of babies - again, almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team.. Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent (5 all-stars) with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:32 AM
Harden averaged 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in 2012... LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.

And in the Finals - he shit the bed off the bench, for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG.

Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does), and Durant stood by being passive-aggressive.. They employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1.

A bunch of babies - again, almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team.. Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent (5 all-stars) with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).
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In 92' Clifford Robinson and Buck Williams were irrelevant scrubs, Ducksworth was a serviceable player, nothing more. You want to talk about Savvy, veteran experience? Does that not include the Spurs x3 and Celtics x4 that Lebron has faced?

HelterSkelter
06-02-2015, 11:33 AM
I think 13 Spurs can beat them.


Our respect and nostalgia for past teams make us overrate them a lot. I don't think 12 Thunder can beat the 92 Blazers but it's not like it's gonna be a complete beatdown... many teams in the last decade will give them a competitive series.. if not beat them..

tmacattack33
06-02-2015, 11:35 AM
Jordan wouldn't have beat this years Celtics, Bulls and Hawks? :roll:

MJ would not have been able to transform into a PF and fill in for Kevin Love after he got injured.

This means Kendrick Perkins would have been forced to play like 15 minutes a game...which would have changed everything.

We're talking about real life here...where injuries happen. If this was 2k and we could turn injuries OFF then you may be right.

As it stands, injuries are a large part of the game, and Lebron's ability to adapt to any position makes him more valuable than MJ going into the playoffs (when you can't sign a any free agents to cover up newly injured positions).

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-02-2015, 11:38 AM
'13 Spurs were better, or at least on par IMO

Hey Yo
06-02-2015, 11:41 AM
Durant and company were babies and were not favored - the Heat were the ones returning to the Finals - they were the favorite.

Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.

OKC was a young team with a horrifically suboptimal style of play - the same kind that got the USA beat in 2006 World Games by Euroleague.. Almost every Finals participant in history would've beaten OKC that year, except for like the 2001 Sixers or 2002 Nets or something like that.
OKC was definitely the favorites before the series started.

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 11:42 AM
OKC was definitely the favorites before the series started.
No Vegas and all the sportsbooks are wrong. 3ball said so

Ne 1
06-02-2015, 11:45 AM
1-9 without Pippen.
It happens when you play an all-time great team like the '86/'87 Celtics in the first round. How about LeBron being 0-4 in the Finals without Wade?

Ne 1
06-02-2015, 11:55 AM
MJ would not have been able to transform into a PF and fill in for Kevin Love after he got injured.

This means Kendrick Perkins would have been forced to play like 15 minutes a game...which would have changed everything.

We're talking about real life here...where injuries happen. If this was 2k and we could turn injuries OFF then you may be right.

As it stands, injuries are a large part of the game, and Lebron's ability to adapt to any position makes him more valuable than MJ going into the playoffs (when you can't sign a any free agents to cover up newly injured positions).
There isn't an all-time great in the history of this league incapable of getting past this years Celtics, Bulls and Hawks.

3ball
06-02-2015, 11:56 AM
In 92' Clifford Robinson and Buck Williams were irrelevant scrubs


So if Lebron had a long, athletic wing defender giving him 12.4 PPG and 5.1 RPG in 25 minutes off the bench, this would be an irrelevant scrub?.. That's what Cliff Robinson was.

So if Lebron had a former 3-time All-star PF that gave him 11/9 and made All-Defensive for the 3rd year in a row (6th time in career), that would be an irrelevant player?.. That's what Buck Williams was.

You don't know what you're talking about.





You want to talk about Savvy, veteran experience? Does that not include the Spurs x3 and Celtics x4 that Lebron has faced?


Clyde Drexler, Terry Porter, Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson, Kevin Duckworth, and Jerome Kersey is far more elite-level talent than the Spurs have - they get by with Patty Mills and Boris Diaw.. That just doesn't compare..

Also, Lebron beat Boston in 2012, when they were old, injured, and post-Garnett injury - they weren't the same Big 3.. Whereas the best players on the 1992 Blazers' were in their prime.
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Charlie Sheen
06-02-2015, 12:09 PM
Clyde Drexler, Terry Porter, Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson, Kevin Duckworth, and Jerome Kersey is far more elite-level talent than the Spurs have - they get by with Patty Mills and Boris Diaw.. That just doesn't compare..


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Kevin Duckworth was never elite. Stop it. That's flat out dishonest. The truth is the West was thin on Centers after Dream and Admiral around that time. He had a nice touch on the mid range shot. He was no more elite than you could say Splitter is.

3ball
06-02-2015, 12:19 PM
Kevin Duckworth was never elite.


By elite, I mean all-star level, and Duckworth was an all-star in 1991 averaging 16/7..

The Blazers were so stacked that it's not a surprise he had to make room for other guys and his numbers couldn't stay at that level.. But he was still in his prime in 1992 as an all-star-caliber player.. He proved it in 1991 when he was an all-star.





The truth is the West was thin on Centers after Dream and Admiral around that time.



Thin on centers... are you kidding?... :yaohappy:


Hakeem Olajuwon
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Brad Daughtery
Dikembe Mutombo (16/12/3)
Rony Seikaly (16/12/2)
Moses Malone
Rik Smits
Robert Parish
Vlade Divac


Oh, and Kevin Duckworth.

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 12:20 PM
Kevin Duckworth was never elite. Stop it. That's flat out dishonest. The truth is the West was thin on Centers after Dream and Admiral around that time. He had a nice touch on the mid range shot. He was no more elite than you could say Splitter is.
3ball just says what ever the **** comes into his mind. Names players like Buck Williams, Robinson, Ducksworth, as if they mean shit. "The Spurs get by on Patty Mills and Boris Diaw". Ignoring the fact they have Duncan, Parker, Manu (all HOFers with vast playoff experience, still all capable of playing elite ball), one of the GOAT systems and coaches with Pop, an emerging stud DPOY in Leonard, capable role players, great shooters everywhere.

Sarcastic
06-02-2015, 12:22 PM
The only reason OKC was favorites was that Lebron shit the bed the year before, and the bettors thought there was a chance he would do it again. They thought he would be his usual LeChoke self in the finals. Remember up to till that point, his finals record was 0-2, while laying 2 massive rotten eggs in each finals. San Antonio schooled him big time in 2007, and in 2011, well


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sdot_thadon
06-02-2015, 12:26 PM
Nope

Charlie Sheen
06-02-2015, 12:26 PM
3ball just says what ever the **** comes into his mind. Names players like Buck Williams, Robinson, Ducksworth, as if they mean shit. "The Spurs get by on Patty Mills and Boris Diaw". Ignoring the fact they have Duncan, Parker, Manu (all HOFers with vast playoff experience, still all capable of playing elite ball), one of the GOAT systems and coaches with Pop, an emerging stud DPOY in Leonard, capable role players, great shooters everywhere.

I should've got the picture earlier. This is his playground. I can find something else to do besides talking to a brick wall. :cheers:

ArbitraryWater
06-02-2015, 12:32 PM
The 2012 Thunder had THREE... MVP candidate 'around that time' (loose and shitty, but your criteria)... thats M.V.P....

KD (2012)
Russ (2015)
Harden (2015)

Ne 1
06-02-2015, 12:43 PM
The only reason OKC was favorites was that Lebron shit the bed the year before, and the bettors thought there was a chance he would do it again. They thought he would be his usual LeChoke self in the finals. Remember up to till that point, his finals record was 0-2, while laying 2 massive rotten eggs in each finals. San Antonio schooled him big time in 2007, and in 2011, well


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I agree. Losing 3 consecutive years with home court advantage as the heavy favorite prbobably had a lot to do with it as well.

iamgine
06-02-2015, 12:47 PM
Was the 1992 Blazers better than anything Lebron has defeated in playoffs?

Nope

/thread

tmacattack33
06-02-2015, 01:35 PM
There isn't an all-time great in the history of this league incapable of getting past this years Celtics, Bulls and Hawks.

Sure, if that all-time great could play multiple positions to make up for the Love/Varejao injuries, and could average 30/11/10 against the Hawks they would have a pretty easy time getting past them.

The problem is, there are only two or three all-time greats who would do that.

SHAQisGOAT
06-02-2015, 01:55 PM
Great case can be made, I'll tell you at least that...

nzahir
06-02-2015, 02:11 PM
The 1992 Blazers had 5 guys who were All-Stars around that time:

Terry Porter (91', 93')
Clyde Drexler (86', 87', 89'-94', 96', 97')
Kevin Duckworth (89', 91')
Clifford Robinson (94')
Buck Williams (82', 83, 86'... All-Defensive Team in 82', 83', 88', 89', 90', 91', 92').

They also had great wing athlete/defender Jerome Kersey.

What roster has Lebron defeated that is as good as this?
Around that time doesnt matter much wehn you see the huge dropoff as I just checked. But nice try. Thats like saying lebron played 3 top 5 mvp candidates on 1 team. Westbrook this year, kd in 2012, and harden this year. Plus guys such as ibaka, collison, perkins, adams; and reggie jackson was on that team.

jlip
06-02-2015, 03:05 PM
Why hasn't the OP been banned yet?

3ball
06-02-2015, 03:21 PM
Around that time doesnt matter much wehn you see the huge dropoff as I just checked. But nice try. Thats like saying lebron played 3 top 5 mvp candidates on 1 team. Westbrook this year, kd in 2012, and harden this year. Plus guys such as ibaka, collison, perkins, adams; and reggie jackson was on that team.


Harden was a bench player in 2012... His best series that year was 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in WCF... That's LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.. And in the Finals - he shit the bed off the bench, for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG.

Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does).. OKC were babies and still teething: they employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1.

A bunch of babies - again, almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team.. Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).
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LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 03:40 PM
Harden was a bench player in 2012... His best series that year was 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in WCF... That's LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.. And in the Finals - he shit the bed off the bench, for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG.

Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does).. OKC were babies and still teething: they employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1.

A bunch of babies - again, almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team.. Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).
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Tell me about the Spurs teams Lebron has faced. Interested in seeing what bullshit you pull out of your ass this time.

3ball
06-02-2015, 03:47 PM
Tell me about the Spurs teams Lebron has faced. Interested in seeing what bullshit you pull out of your ass this time.


The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

lilteapot
06-02-2015, 03:48 PM
The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86')The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time: The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'. - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforemThe 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.entioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

3ball
06-02-2015, 03:53 PM
I'm mad.


:confusedshrug:

The Spurs supporting players don't compare.. The Blazers supporting players were all-star caliber players like Duckworth (all-star in 89 and 91'), Clifford Robinson (1994) and Buck Williams (current all-nba defender, double-double guy, and former all-star).. And Jerome Kersey... :confusedshrug: ... 2000's Spurs rosters can't compare to that.
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LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 03:57 PM
The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.
Are you fcking autistic or what? Pretty sure the Spurs have players besides Boris Diaw and Bonner that are more important. They run an unbelievable system led by one of the GOAT coaches. 3 HOFers still capable of playing at an elite all NBA level, DPOY Kawhi Leonard, elite 3 and D player Danny Green, elite 3p shooter Belinelli, saw what you want about Patty Mills and Diaw but they were great throughout the playoffs.

lilteapot
06-02-2015, 03:58 PM
The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86')The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time: The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'. - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforemThe 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.entioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

Trollsmasher
06-02-2015, 04:00 PM
Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

3ball
06-02-2015, 04:02 PM
elite 3 and D player Danny Green, elite 3p shooter Belinelli, saw what you want about Patty Mills and Diaw but they were great throughout the playoffs.


If you want to talk about 2010's Spurs, then you have to realize Duncan is far past his prime - if prime 2003 Duncan was on 2013 Spurs, they would win 3 in a row, including this year..

But he wasn't.. Him and Parker are far past their prime - they don't compare anymore to prime Clyde Drexler and Terry Porter.

But if you look at the 2000's Spurs when they won most of their rings, Duncan was in his prime and compares well to say, prime Drexler... But again, the nobody supporting players from the 2000's Spurs simply don't compare to the all-star caliber supporting players of the Blazers (Duckworth, Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson were all-star caliber... then they still had Kersey).
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lilteapot
06-02-2015, 04:02 PM
Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Dude, you're completely uninformed. clearly The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86')The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time: The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'. - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforemThe 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.entioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

So that's 5 all-star caliber players.. The Blazers were so stacked, the aforementioned Williams, Duckworth and Cliff Robinson were the Blazers' ROLE PLAYERS..

This shows how much more talented they were then say, the Spurs, who succeed with role players like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw and Bonner.. No comparison to guys like Buck Williams, Duckworth and Clifford Robinson whose impact was on a completely different, higher level.. Blazers also had athletic wing defender and scorer Jerome Kersey, who won ring with Spurs in 99'.The 1992 Blazers had 4 guys who were all-stars around that time:

Clyde Drexler (86'-97')
Terry Porter (91' and 93')
Kevin Duckworth (89' and 91')
Cliff Robinson (94')

Also, Buck Williams had been a 3-time all-star as well (82', 83', 86') - Williams got 11/9 and was named All-NBA defense in 1992 (for 3rd year in a row and 6th time in his career)..

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 04:08 PM
If you want to talk about 2010's Spurs, then you have to realize Duncan is far past his prime - if prime 2003 Duncan was on 2013 Spurs, they would win 3 in a row, including this year..

But he wasn't.. Him and Parker are far past their prime - they don't compare anymore to prime Clyde Drexler and Terry Porter.

But if you look at the 2000's Spurs when they won all their rings, Duncan was in his prime and compares well... But again, his supporting players simply don't compare to the all-star caliber supporting players of the Blazers (Duckworth, Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson were all-star caliber... then they still had Kersey).
Some of these players you're mentioning weren't in their prime in 92' you ****tard. You truly believe Duncan, Parker, Ginobilli, Leonard and great role players like Danny Green, Bellinelli, etc, along with a GOAT system and coach isn't comparable to the likes of Duckworth and Buck Williams? :roll:

3ball
06-02-2015, 04:22 PM
Some of these players you're mentioning weren't in their prime in 92' you ****tard. You truly believe Duncan, Parker, Ginobilli, Leonard and great role players like Danny Green, Bellinelli, etc, along with a GOAT system and coach isn't comparable to the likes of Duckworth and Buck Williams? :roll:
So the problem with the trying to compare the 2015 Spurs to 1992 Blazers, is that the best players on the Spurs aren't in their prime, while the Blazers' were.. The Blazers' best players - Drexler, Porter and Duckworth - were all in their primes in 1992.

Otoh, the 2010's Spurs best players are far past their primes - i.e. Duncan, Ginobili, Parker.. Ginobili and Parker aren't all-star players anymore.. And again, a prime Duncan on 2015 Spurs runs roughshod through the entire league..

As for the supporting players - the non-all-star group of Spurs role players including Kawhi, Green, and Bellinelli are not collectively on the same level as Buck Williams, Cliff Robinson, and Jerome Kersey.. It's clear as day - those 3 are less than the Blazers 3.

Rocketswin2013
06-02-2015, 04:22 PM
Kevin Duckworth actually has some of the worst stats I've ever seen. Negative ws/48, DRTG in the 110's, PER's way below 15. He averaged 10/6/1 with more fouls and turnovers than assists, steals, and blocks combined in 1992, on sub-50 TS%. "All-star".


By the way, these are stats I see you spam to prop up Jordan(of all people) so that's why I used them.

3ball
06-02-2015, 04:27 PM
Kevin Duckworth had negative WS, low ORtg...


He was a go-to post player with great offensive skills on the block - he averaged 16/7 as an all-star in 1989 and 1991, on a loaded Blazers team where he had to share spotlight.

Given how stacked the Blazers were, it's no surprise that Duckworth had to make room for other players and couldn't maintain his 1989-1991 all-star production.
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LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 04:39 PM
BTW, Atlanta Hawks had 4 allstars THIS year

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 04:40 PM
Celtics; KG, Pierce, Allen, Rondo.

3ball
06-02-2015, 04:47 PM
BTW, Atlanta Hawks had 4 allstars THIS year
Everyone knows that's due to the weak east - there simply isn't anything better than to put 12 PPG Korver on the all-star team.. that's how bad the east is.

A guy like Paul Milsap or horford wouldn't even register in 1990... You want to see where him and Horford would rank among frontcourt players?... It's not laughable.. It's hilarious... And is teague sniffing even alternate status out west or in a previous era?... Obviously not.

3ball
06-02-2015, 04:50 PM
Celtics; KG, Pierce, Allen, Rondo.
The OP said the Blazers were better than anything Lebron DEFEATED.

The 2012 Celtics were POST Garnett-injury.. Everyone was past their prime..

TripleA
06-02-2015, 05:04 PM
Detroit Pistons
Celtics
Spurs
Okc

All better

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 05:13 PM
The OP said the Blazers were better than anything Lebron DEFEATED.

The 2012 Celtics were POST Garnett-injury.. Everyone was past their prime..
Not everyone was in their prime for Blazers in 92', were they ****tard?

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 05:15 PM
2011 Bulls: Rose, Noah, Deng, Boozer, Korver

Sarcastic
06-02-2015, 05:19 PM
Blazers were a great team, just massive underachievers. Very similar to current OKC.

LikeABosh
06-02-2015, 05:19 PM
Pacers: Hibbert, PG, West, Granger.

Grab hold of this L little guy

jlip
06-02-2015, 05:27 PM
Are Trollsmasher and lilteapot the same poster? It looks like one poster logged in with two separate accounts and kept posting the same thing over and over by mistake.

Edit: It looks like they are just trolling the OP.

ChrisKreager
06-02-2015, 05:28 PM
Wrong team.

1993 Suns were better- that team, if you put them in a time machine, would have made for some awesome games with the Warriors.

Duncan21formvp
06-02-2015, 06:17 PM
Jason Terry outplayed Lebron, imagine what Terry Porter would do to him.

Lebron23
06-02-2015, 06:20 PM
They aren't even that good. 2012 Heat and 2013 Heat would beat them in the playoffs. The 1996 Seattle Supersonics were the best team that Jordan faced in the finals.

3ball
06-02-2015, 06:26 PM
They aren't even that good. 2012 Heat and 2013 Heat would beat them in the playoffs. The 1996 Seattle Supersonics were the best team that Jordan faced in the finals.
Heat beat a bad OKC team in 2012 and got lucky in 2013.

But what about the 2011 Heat?.. Would they beat the 1992 Blazers?

Lebron23
06-02-2015, 06:30 PM
Heat beat a bad OKC team in 2012 and got lucky in 2013.

But what about the 2011 Heat?.. Would they beat the 1992 Blazers?

They beat them in Game 6 and 7 after being down 3-2. The Heat were just a better team than the Spurs. The 2011 Team were kinda overrated. Wade was still at his prime, but they lacked solid bench productions.

Kvnzhangyay
06-02-2015, 06:31 PM
Durant and company were babies and were not favored - the Heat were the ones returning to the Finals - they were the favorite.

Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.

OKC was a young team with a horrifically suboptimal style of play - the same kind that got the USA beat in 2006 World Games by Euroleague.. Almost every Finals participant in history would've beaten OKC that year, except for like the 2001 Sixers or 2002 Nets or something like that.


This is CLEARLY revisionist history. You're not even making it subtle anymore.

"They were the favorite" ... really??

When Miami was down 3-2 to Boston and everyone said the WCF was the NBA finals?

At this point either you're a troll, you have Alzheimers, or you are like 10 and weren't even old enough to watch the '12 season

3ball
06-02-2015, 07:00 PM
The 2011 Team were kinda overrated. Wade was still at his prime, but they lacked solid bench productions.


The MOMENT Pippen became all-star caliber, MJ went 6/6... the MOMENT... What would he do with frieking prime Wade... 9/9?.. 12/12?... Seriously?

Dude, if you put prime Wade with Jordan... Or prime Kobe... Or Tmac... Or someone of that caliber.. he would do BETTER than 6/6 - do you understand that?

sdot_thadon
06-02-2015, 08:12 PM
The MOMENT Pippen became all-star caliber, MJ went 6/6... the MOMENT... What would he do with frieking prime Wade... 9/9?.. 12/12?... Seriously?

Dude, if you put prime Wade with Jordan... Or prime Kobe... Or Tmac... Or someone of that caliber.. he would do BETTER than 6/6 - do you understand that?
Pretty weak assumption there buddy, You ever consider things like chemistry? Mj never had to battle with anyone with similar level of skill and talent, can't be so sure it would work out great.

plowking
06-02-2015, 08:45 PM
They've both played pretty good teams in the finals. This Portland team isn't as good as the Thunder or Spurs though.

3ball
06-02-2015, 08:54 PM
2012 Thunder


Harden was a bench player in 2012... His best series that year was 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in WCF... That's LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.. And in the Finals - he shit the bed for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG off the bench.. Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does).

OKC were babies and still teething in 2012.. They employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1.. Almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team..

Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).

sd3035
06-02-2015, 09:01 PM
The 2015 Blazers were probably better than any teams except perhaps the ref rigged Thunder series, and Ray Allen Spurs series

plowking
06-02-2015, 09:14 PM
Harden was a bench player in 2012... His best series that year was 18 PPG and 3.7 APG vs. Spurs in WCF... That's LESS than JR Smith this year vs. Atlanta.. And in the Finals - he shit the bed for 12 PPG on 37.5% FG off the bench.. Meanwhile, Westbrook chucked the team down the drain (which he still does).

OKC were babies and still teething in 2012.. They employed literally the MOST suboptimal style they possibly could: they took turns going 1-on-1.. Almost ANY Finals participant in history would've beaten that team..

Otoh, the Blazers combined their elite athleticism and bevy of All-Star talent with years of savvy, veteran experience, including prior Finals experience (1990 vs. Bad Boys).

They beat the 2012 Spurs who were absolutely flying that year and were favourites for the title. Before that they beat the Kobe led Lakers.
Prior to that they beat the defending champs in the Mavs.

You're full of shit for thinking they're some baby team, when you get on Bron's case about losing at 22 in his first final despite Westbrook, Harden and Durant being all older at that point in their first final. :oldlol:

Spurs5Rings2014
06-02-2015, 09:19 PM
They beat the 2012 Spurs who were absolutely flying that year and were favourites for the title.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Rocketswin2013
06-02-2015, 09:41 PM
They beat the 2012 Spurs who were absolutely flying that year and were favourites for the title. Before that they beat the Kobe led Lakers.
Prior to that they beat the defending champs in the Mavs.

You're full of shit for thinking they're some baby team, when you get on Bron's case about losing at 22 in his first final despite Westbrook, Harden and Durant being all older at that point in their first final. :oldlol:
Well, Harden was also 22. But yeah Durant was 24, Westbrook 23, older than LeBron. Also, OP is a jackass for saying Duckworth and Robinson were all-stars. Duckworth a PER of 10...10. a 10 PER, and you consider him all-star caliber? Robinson was undeveloped and still a super tweener in his 3rd year. Not nearly bulked up enough to play PF/C(the position he played at his best, 3 whole years down the line). And Porter? He'd be the 4th best player on OKC at best. OKC was an entirely different thing to handle. Amazing fastbreak team, even though they didn't play defense. And even though they didn't play great defense, it was still a whole DRTG point better(OKC 103, POR 104). Stop the fallacies.

1987_Lakers
06-02-2015, 10:31 PM
2012 Thunder were like the 1992 Blazers on steroids.

2013 & 2014 Spurs were like the '97 & '98 Jazz on steroids

2015 Warriors are also on another level than any of the 90's West teams.

By typing this I just realized how good the top teams of the West were these past 4 years. Last years' Spurs team and the current Warriors team might go down as one of the best teams ever, the 2012 Thunder had 3 superstars on one team, pretty amazing.

plowking
06-02-2015, 10:46 PM
The best team the Bulls faced were either the Suns or that Sonics team IMO.

hitmanyr2k
06-02-2015, 11:46 PM
2012 Thunder were like the 1992 Blazers on steroids.

2013 & 2014 Spurs were like the '97 & '98 Jazz on steroids

2015 Warriors are also on another level than any of the 90's West teams.

By typing this I just realized how good the top teams of the West were these past 4 years. Last years' Spurs team and the current Warriors team might go down as one of the best teams ever, the 2012 Thunder had 3 superstars on one team, pretty amazing.

I don't think so :oldlol:

The '92 Blazers were deep as **** with 5-6 players scoring in double figures and their frontcourt was a hell of a lot better than OKCs. The 2012 Thunder had 3 players scoring in double figures and then there's a HUGE drop-off in talent and offensive production after that. Even this year's Warriors team wasn't as deep as the '92 Blazers. Only the '13 and '14 Spurs teams compare really.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 12:10 AM
I don't think so :oldlol:

The '92 Blazers were deep as **** with 5-6 players scoring in double figures and their frontcourt was a hell of a lot better than OKCs. The 2012 Thunder had 3 players scoring in double figures and then there's a HUGE drop-off in talent and offensive production after that. Even this year's Warriors team wasn't as deep as the '92 Blazers. Only the '13 and '14 Spurs teams compare really.

It's a very fair comparison, if you really did your homework on that Blazers team you would know they they were often criticized for lacking fundamentals, similar to the thunder with Westbrook's erratic play, but both teams had players that were great athletes.

You are also overrating the Blazers frontcourt...

- Dutchworth was a 7 footer who couldn't grab more than 6 rebounds per game and only gave you 10 points.

- Buck Williams was solid, but at that point was probably past his prime. Putting up 11/9 numbers is nothing to go crazy about.

Are you also forgetting Ibaka led the NBA in blocks for the Thunder that year? I don't care how deep your team is, when you have Durant, Westbrook, & Harden on your side (3 ****ING SUPERSTARS!) that is all you are ever going to need.

ClipperRevival
06-03-2015, 12:22 AM
1992 Blazers are one of the best teams to never win a ring imo. They made the finals in 1990 and 1992 and should've made the finals in 1991 also but they choked against the Lakers. That could've been 3 straight finals appearances. They were deep and talented. They could run or slow it down.

livinglegend
06-03-2015, 12:25 AM
Durant and company were babies and were not favored - the Heat were the ones returning to the Finals - they were the favorite.

Harden wasn't even a starter, let alone an all-star.. He was shitting the bed off the bench.

OKC was a young team with a horrifically suboptimal style of play - the same kind that got the USA beat in 2006 World Games by Euroleague.. Almost every Finals participant in history would've beaten OKC that year, except for like the 2001 Sixers or 2002 Nets or something like that.

prove it.

hitmanyr2k
06-03-2015, 12:31 AM
It's a very fair comparison, if you really did your homework on that Blazers team you would know they they were often criticized for lacking fundamentals, similar to the thunder with Westbrook's erratic play, but both teams had players that were great athletes.

You are also overrating the Blazers frontcourt...

- Dutchworth was a 7 footer who couldn't grab more than 6 rebounds per game and only gave you 10 points.

- Buck Williams was solid, but at that point was probably past his prime. Putting up 11/9 numbers is nothing to go crazy about.

Are you also forgetting Ibaka led the NBA in blocks for the Thunder that year? I don't care how deep your team is, when you have Durant, Westbrook, & Harden on your side (3 ****ING SUPERSTARS!) that is all you are ever going to need.

Compared to OKC's shit frontcourt they're not overrated at all. Duckworth was better than Perkins. Buck Williams solid 11/9 was better than anything Serge was putting up and good job leaving out Jerome Kersey who was also putting up 13/8. Much better than Thabo and whatever other scrubs OKC had filling out their roster lol.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 12:38 AM
Compared to OKC's shit frontcourt they're not overrated at all. Duckworth was better than Perkins. Buck Williams solid 11/9 was better than anything Serge was putting up and good job leaving out Jerome Kersey who was also putting up 13/8. Much better than Thabo and whatever other scrubs OKC had filling out their roster lol.

Ibaka was very comparable to the Blazers frontcourt, I'd take him over Duckworth in a heartbeat.

Kersey was a SF, would you really take him over Durant? If you are including Kersey as the frontcourt than you might as well include Durant.

hitmanyr2k
06-03-2015, 12:49 AM
"Duckworth":roll:

Ibaka was very comparable to the Blazers frontcourt, I'd take him over Dutchworth in a heartbeat.

Kersey was a SF, would you really take him over Durant? If you are including Kersey as the frontcourt than you might as well include Durant.

So you're going to take a shit starting frontcourt of Perkins putting up 5/7, a green Serge Ibaka putting up 9/8 and Thabo Sefalosha putting up 5/3 over a frontcourt with Duckworth putting up 11/6, Buck Williams putting up 11/9 and Jerome Kersey putting up 13/8? And Drexler's 7 boards was just an added bonus.

You can throw Durant wherever you want. It's still not making up for the lack of production from Perkins and Thabo.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 12:56 AM
So you're going to take a shit starting frontcourt of Perkins putting up 5/7, a green Serge Ibaka putting up 9/8 and Thabo Sefalosha putting up 5/3 over a frontcourt with Duckworth putting up 11/6, Buck Williams putting up 11/9 and Jerome Kersey putting up 13/8? And Drexler's 7 boards was just an added bonus.

You can throw Durant wherever you want. It's still not making up for the lack of production from Perkins and Thabo.

Thabo was considered one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Perkins is garbage, but he was also a very good low post defender.

And why are you listing Thabo on the frontcourt? He was a shooting guard. Durant is SF. I'm taking Perkins/Ibaka/Durant over that Portland frontcourt without hesitation because of Durant, no questions asked.

Then you have Westbrook & Harden in the backcourt with Thabo's defensive abilities? Give me OKC. Game over.

ClipperRevival
06-03-2015, 01:02 AM
I don't think anyone doubts the 2012 OKC had greater individual talent than the 1992 Blazers. But talent alone doesn't get you wins. They were too young at that point along with a terrible coach to know how to win. The 1992 Blazers were a well oiled TEAM. The pieces complimented each other. Their only true superstar was Drexler but Porter, Kersey, Buck and Duckworth complimented each other. And Ainge and Cliff off the bench added depth.

I think the 1992 Blazers would beat the 2012 Thunder in a 7 game series. OKC simply were too young and inexperienced along with a terrible coach to know how to win.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 01:05 AM
OKC simply were too young and inexperienced along with a terrible coach to know how to win.

Is that why OKC beat a well oiled team with championship experience in the Spurs during the WCF that year? A Spurs team that went on to 2 straight finals the following years, winning 1.

hitmanyr2k
06-03-2015, 01:09 AM
Thabo was considered one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Perkins is garbage, but he was also a very good low post defender.

And why are you listing Thabo on the frontcourt? He was a shooting guard. Durant is SF. I'm taking Perkins/Ibaka/Durant over that Portland frontcourt without hesitation because of Durant, no questions asked.

Then you have Westbrook & Harden in the backcourt with Thabo's defensive abilities? Give me OKC. Game over.

Thabo was garbage. Perkins was garbage. And Serge was serviceable. These guys came nowhere near the production of Portland's loaded roster. And when Harden's offense went to complete shit in the Finals OKC had no depth to fall back on. Also add that Drexler and Porter were world's better than Durant and Westbrook as playmakers. Durant averaged more turnovers than assists for god knows how long and we all know how undisciplined Westbrook was.

ClipperRevival
06-03-2015, 01:12 AM
Is that why OKC beat a well oiled team with championship experience in the Spurs during the WCF that year? A Spurs team that went on to 2 straight finals the following years, winning 1.

True. But OKC matched up well with the Spurs. Their athleticism bothered the older, slower Spurs and their talent just overwhelmed the Spurs at times. Like I said, OKC, on paper, might be one of the best teams ever. 3 realistic HOF candidates. But their talents didn't mesh well. They had too many chiefs. And they were young and inexperienced at the time. Are you going to deny this? And when your coach tells your stars to take turns running iso plays in crunch time, you have issues.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 01:14 AM
Thabo was garbage. Perkins was garbage. And Serge was serviceable. These guys came nowhere near the production of Portland's loaded roster. And when Harden's offense went to complete shit in the Finals OKC had no depth to fall back on. Also add that Drexler and Porter were world's better than Durant and Westbrook as playmakers. Durant averaged more turnovers than assists for god knows how long and we all know how undisciplined Westbrook was.

You haven't proved anything with this post.

1987_Lakers
06-03-2015, 01:17 AM
True. But OKC matched up well with the Spurs. Their athleticism bothered the older, slower Spurs and their talent just overwhelmed the Spurs at times. Like I said, OKC, on paper, might be one of the best teams ever. 3 realistic HOF candidates. But their talents didn't mesh well. They had too many chiefs. And they were young and inexperienced at the time. Are you going to deny this? And when your coach tells your stars to take turns running iso plays in crunch time, you have issues.

OKC had many flaws, they were young, & they played too much 1 on 1, weak coach. I agree.

But Portland isn't a team that is gonna expose this, they weren't as talented and people who followed the NBA at the time will tell you Portland had the same issues as OKC in terms of fundamentals.

ClipperRevival
06-03-2015, 01:23 AM
OKC had many flaws, they were young, & they played too much 1 on 1, weak coach. I agree.

But Portland isn't a team that is gonna expose this, they weren't as talented and people who followed the NBA at the time will tell you Portland had the same issues as OKC in terms of fundamentals.

I think they would've given OKC a run for their money. This is a team that almost made 3 straight finals. They did make it in 1990 and 1992. Lost to two of the best dynasties in history in tne fina, s. The Blazers from 1990 to 1992 had a great run. Won 59, 63 and 57 games during that time.

Stempel, HERB
06-03-2015, 10:38 AM
people who followed the NBA at the time will tell you

:oldlol: I love these statements, and people like this. His malleable opinions were formed by other people. He can't make up his own mind.

andgar923
06-03-2015, 10:50 AM
smh

What people don't understand is that teams from back then, played like well..... TEAMS.

Imagine if you will, the Spurs in their prime.

Not the Spurs that almost beat the Heat and the Spurs that obliterated the Heat, but a Spurs in their prime. Younger legs, running sets all over the place instead of simply playing one on one like most teams do today.

That's how most teams played back then, much much less one on one, many many more plays being called with multiple passes and screens, players rotating and running everywhere.

If the Heat, an athletic half court lobbing, defensive juggernaut has issues vs the old Spurs, imagine this Cavs or champion Heat team?

The 92 Blazers would beat the shit out of this CAvs or Heat team.

HurricaneKid
06-03-2015, 10:54 AM
:oldlol: I love these statements, and people like this. His malleable opinions were formed by other people. He can't make up his own mind.

He is flat out right. No one that was watching ball at that time thought that was going to be a competitive Finals and CERTAINLY didn't think of Port as some kind of juggernaut. And the following year they brought back all those guys AND brought in Rod Strickland and won a total of ONE playoff game.

So 3Ball, is that 93 Portland team the best team to ever win ONE playoff game?

plowking
06-03-2015, 10:58 AM
smh

What people don't understand is that teams from back then, played like well..... TEAMS.

The 92 Blazers would beat the shit out of this CAvs or Heat team.

LOL at these two lines.

Team ball is better than ever in the NBA. People were comparing the Heat in 2013 to the 86 Celtics. Then you had the 14 Spurs come along and do it even better than the 13 Heat. Both those teams would shit on most of the championship teams in the last 30 years.

92 Blazers? LOL. Heat sweep. Get the brooms.

Straight_Ballin
06-03-2015, 11:01 AM
3ball reminds me of Phong. Posts a couple of facts, Bron stans get all upset and overwhelmed, then he sits back and tastes their tears. History repeating itself except it's not just Pauk who's crying...

andgar923
06-03-2015, 11:50 AM
LOL at these two lines.

Team ball is better than ever in the NBA. People were comparing the Heat in 2013 to the 86 Celtics. Then you had the 14 Spurs come along and do it even better than the 13 Heat. Both those teams would shit on most of the championship teams in the last 30 years.

92 Blazers? LOL. Heat sweep. Get the brooms.

You mean the Bron isolation, in which he dribbles, dribble, dribbles, dribbles, dribbles?

Almost every team they'v faced is one dimensional with tons of one on one.

OKC nothing but one on one and one of the stupidest most overrated point guards of all time.

Pacers? seriously? LOLLL

Wizards? LOLLL

Celtics were old, injured, had a point guard you could leave wide open. Imagine the Heat giving Porter any space? what a joke.

The Bulls, one on one with one of the worst MVPs of all time, definition of a chucker.

The Hawks are a decent traditional 'team' but they suck. That team wouldn't be shit back then, seriously Kyle Korver? a journeyman bench player for most of his career?

Golden State does play decent team ball, but even then they get caught up in stale one on one with their guards chucking from deep.

Honestly not to many teams play great 'team' ball. Even what you guys think is 'team' ball was the 'norm' back then. With players knowing their 'role' and playing it well.

If the heat had a hard time going up against old Duncan and shitty center the Pacers had, imagine how badly they'd do vs the 90s teams? :oldlol:

Rik Smits would be getting MVP numbers vs them, while Bron would have a hard time in the paint vs the Davis brothers. Imagine them trying to stop Reggie constantly running off picks? A much much deadlier Manu. The Heat had a hard time vs him. He was getting wide open shots and simply bricking them.

And that's just for beginners.

Marchesk
06-03-2015, 12:43 PM
As opposed to NBA greats like Buck Williams and Kevin Duckworth?:yaohappy:

Better than Perkins and Sefolosha.

sdot_thadon
06-03-2015, 12:47 PM
He is flat out right. No one that was watching ball at that time thought that was going to be a competitive Finals and CERTAINLY didn't think of Port as some kind of juggernaut. And the following year they brought back all those guys AND brought in Rod Strickland and won a total of ONE playoff game.

So 3Ball, is that 93 Portland team the best team to ever win ONE playoff game?
This. I definitely don't remember the blazers being touted as some juggernaut either. They were an elite team/contender. We have those every single year guys.

Rocketswin2013
06-03-2015, 12:48 PM
Thabo was in his prime that year, top perimeter defender and >40% from 3.

32jazz
06-03-2015, 01:12 PM
OKC had many flaws, they were young, & they played too much 1 on 1, weak coach. I agree.

But Portland isn't a team that is gonna expose this, they weren't as talented and people who followed the NBA at the time will tell you Portland had the same issues as OKC in terms of fundamentals.

This .



Go watch the 4th quarter of the 92 Finals & see the Blazers choke away a 15 point lead with Jordan (who only played clean up duty) on the bench.


Haven't seen it in awhile , but Portland basically gave away game 6 with unforced turnovers (Porter bouncing the ball off his leg & other player miscues/boneheadedness).

hitmanyr2k
06-03-2015, 01:16 PM
LOL at these two lines.

Team ball is better than ever in the NBA. People were comparing the Heat in 2013 to the 86 Celtics. Then you had the 14 Spurs come along and do it even better than the 13 Heat. Both those teams would shit on most of the championship teams in the last 30 years.

92 Blazers? LOL. Heat sweep. Get the brooms.

Team ball today? :oldlol: GTFOH. Why do you think the Spurs are heralded and praised playing team ball today? Because it's rare. The '13 and '14 Heat teams never averaged more than 23 assists. OKC was even worse averaging 19 assists per game, a dumbass ISO team.

The great passing Spurs teams everyone likes to tout so much averaged 25 assists a game, the same as the '92 Blazers. The '92 champion Bulls? They only averaged 28 assists per game.

Megabox!
06-03-2015, 01:21 PM
The best team the Bulls faced were either the Suns or that Sonics team IMO.
I think the Jazz were better than the Suns, Suns defense wasn't all that impressive imo

dunksby
06-03-2015, 01:26 PM
Durant and Westbrook were already a better duo than anything on that Blazers team. KD>Drexler>Westbrook>>>>>others who don't deserve a mention. Also the Spurs would wreck that Blazers team.

RoseCity07
06-03-2015, 01:26 PM
The Thunder team Lebron beat had 3 players that are currently in discussions for league MVP. Stacked doesn't even begin to describe the Thunder that year Lebron slew them with his sword. Our King is almighty.

dunksby
06-03-2015, 01:29 PM
The Thunder team Lebron beat had 3 players that are currently in discussions for league MVP. Stacked doesn't even begin to describe the Thunder that year Lebron slew them with his sword. Our King is almighty.
Let's talk about the one he dodged :roll:

RoseCity07
06-03-2015, 01:40 PM
Let's talk about the one he dodged :roll:


Oh you mean stacked Spurs team that viciously raped every team the following year?:oldlol: Let's. Lebron's heroics saved them as they were mere seconds away from losing in game 6. Lebron saw his team was down and out and he hit the initial 3 pointer that got that kept the hope alive. Without that hope instilled by King Lebron the Spurs would have won instead of being scared for eternity. Ray Allen would never have had a chance to become a legend.

Lebron's game 6, the no head band game, is the greatest individual performance ever. The pressure he had on him would make Kobe ball up on the ground a suck his thumb until Shaq cradled him to sleep.

Rocketswin2013
06-03-2015, 01:40 PM
Respond to my post.

3ball
06-03-2015, 01:43 PM
No one that was watching ball at that time thought that was going to be a competitive Finals

So 3Ball, is that 93 Portland team the best team to ever win ONE playoff game?


Drexler missed half the season in 1993.

As for the 1992 Finals, everyone thought it would be competitive and many people thought Portland would win - you're just forgetting.. Drexler was runner-up for MVP in 1992 and had his best season.. And Portland fielded their most experienced team - remember, Portland had been to the Finals in 1990 and had almost made it again in 1991 before Magic pulled the big upset.. Otherwise, 1992 would've been their 3rd Finals in a row.

The whole narrative was "Now we'll get to see for sure who the best 2-guard is - MVP vs. the runner-up"... (at least that's what MJ was telling everyone it was all about).. Again, that Blazer team had copious talent (4 all-stars around that time) with the experience to go with it.

HurricaneKid
06-03-2015, 02:06 PM
Drexler missed half the season in 1993.

As for the 1992 Finals, everyone thought it would be competitive and many people thought Portland would win - you're just forgetting.. Drexler was runner-up for MVP in 1992 and had his best season.. And Portland fielded their most experienced team - remember, Portland had been to the Finals in 1990 and had almost made it again in 1991 before Magic pulled the big upset.. Otherwise, 1992 would've been their 3rd Finals in a row.

The whole narrative was "Now we'll get to see for sure who the best 2-guard is - MVP vs. the runner-up"... (at least that's what MJ was telling everyone it was all about).. Again, that Blazer team had copious talent (4 all-stars around that time) with the experience to go with it.

And was back for the playoffs leading his team (with home court advantage) to 1 win.m With everyone you listed PLUS Rod Strickland. If they had that much talent how could they get blasted out of the playoffs with home court?

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure you made this same thread about the 91 Lakers. And now the Lakers are the ones who "surprised".

3ball
06-03-2015, 03:07 PM
If the 1992 Blazers had that much talent, how could they get blasted out of the playoffs the next season in 1993?


The Blazers lost continuity when Drexler lost half the season 1993 - that can't happen in a highly competitive conference.

Imagine if Duncan went down for half the season and invariably comes back not quite himself - Spurs season is over, especially in the competitive West.. For the 1993 Blazers, they were competing with Hakeem, David Robinson, MVP Barkley/KJ/Dumas/Majerle/Chambers, Malone/Stockton/Hornacek, Payton/Kemp/Schrempf/McMilllan/McKey.





The funny thing is I'm pretty sure you made this same thread about the 91 Lakers. And now the Lakers are the ones who "surprised".


I never made a thread like this for the 1991 Lakers.. But I mentioned how Magic was runner-up for MVP that season by averaging 19/7/13 on 63% TS.. And how Worthy was 3rd Team All-NBA, while AC Green was an all-star as well..

Between Magic/Worthy/Green, along with Byron Scott/Sam Perkins/Vlade Divac/Elden Campbell, that roster is superior to any Spurs roster, ever.. The Lakers role players of Scott/Perkins/Vlade are deluxe versions of the Spurs Green/Diaw/Bonner.

dunksby
06-03-2015, 03:09 PM
Oh you mean stacked Spurs team that viciously raped every team the following year?:oldlol: Let's. Lebron's heroics saved them as they were mere seconds away from losing in game 6. Lebron saw his team was down and out and he hit the initial 3 pointer that got that kept the hope alive. Without that hope instilled by King Lebron the Spurs would have won instead of being scared for eternity. Ray Allen would never have had a chance to become a legend.

Lebron's game 6, the no head band game, is the greatest individual performance ever. The pressure he had on him would make Kobe ball up on the ground a suck his thumb until Shaq cradled him to sleep.
If you look carefully, you can see that I basically said LeBron beat two better teams than the Blazers, OKC in 12 and SAS next year. But you too stupid to tell and start writing essays. :oldlol:

3ball
06-03-2015, 03:22 PM
If you look carefully, you can see that I basically said LeBron beat two better teams than the Blazers, OKC in 12 and SAS next year. But you too stupid to tell and start writing essays. :oldlol:
Duncan averaged 24/17/5 and 5.3 blk in 2003 Finals, but that's not the version you're bragging about Lebron beating...

Oh no, you're bragging about the 37-year old version that put up 19/12/1 and 1.4 blk in the 2013 Finals.

AND you have the temerity to say that old ass Spurs roster has more talent than the loaded, in-their-prime 1992 Blazers.. The same Blazers that played the Bad Boys, Magic's prime Lakers, and took MJ's Bulls 6 games... GTFO

dunksby
06-03-2015, 03:27 PM
Duncan averaged 24/17/5 and 5.3 blk in 2003 Finals, but that's not the version you're bragging about Lebron beating...

Oh no, you're bragging about the 37-year old version that put up 19/12/1 and 1.4 blk in the 2013 Finals.

AND you have the temerity to say that old ass Spurs roster has more talent than the loaded, in-their-prime 1992 Blazers.. The same Blazers that played the Bad Boys, Magic's prime Lakers, and took MJ's Bulls 6 games... GTFO
OKC had superior talent and SAS the better team.

Rocketswin2013
06-03-2015, 03:34 PM
Also, OP is ridiculous for saying Duckworth and Robinson were all-stars. Duckworth a PER of*10...10. a 10 PER, and you consider him all-star caliber? Robinson was undeveloped and still a super tweener in his 3rd year. Not nearly bulked up enough to play PF/C(the position he played at his best, 3 whole years down the line). And Porter? He'd be the 4th best player on OKC at best. OKC was an entirely different thing to handle. Amazing fastbreak team, even though they didn't play defense. And even though they didn't play great defense, it was still a whole DRTG point better(OKC 103, POR 104). Stop the fallacies.***


^ Thoughts, OP?