ESPYs to honor Bruce Jenner

[BigBoss]

Arthur Ashe Courage Award for individuals who do things that transcend sport.

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5804695.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Main-BruceGold.jpg

Can somebody please F'n explain to me why everyone is on this guys bandwagon?

Was it brave to rear end and kill a woman a few months ago and not even bat an eye about it?


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bruce-jenner-lawsuit-in-fatal-malibu-crash-20150528-story.html

I'm all about being yourself, but this is a first world problem with someone who has A LOT of money/time on his hands. Are we as a society encouraging people to get their D's chopped off when they are going through some personal crisis now? Is it the progressive/hip thing now? Let's just PRETEND that fame and hanging around the Kardashians clan did not effect his psychology.



Is Oscar next? Be yourself right? Go through a gender transition--society will celebrate you.

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oscar-de-la-hoya-cross-dressing.jpg


Disgusting. America is soft like charmin.

[Jameerthefear]

It's the progressive/feminist bullshit. That heathen should be demonized, not celebrated.

[L.Kizzle]

Didn't that gay football player get the honor last year? Damm ESPN ...
Brittney Griner ain't get no award yet?

[BigBoss]

It's the progressive/feminist bullshit. That heathen should be demonized, not celebrated.

Man I don't give a F what he wants to do with his life. My point is---why are we as a society celebrating this as if he cured cancer?

[KiiiiNG]

Man I don't give a F what he wants to do with his life. My point is---why are we as a society celebrating this as if he cured cancer?
because it took a lot of courage to do what he's doing.

SIMPLE. Its the courage award, you clown.

he's wildly popular former gold medalist in the olympics. its KINDA a big deal. you idiot.

[DCL]

because it took a lot of courage to do what he's doing.

SIMPLE. Its the courage award, you clown.

he's wildly popular former gold medalist in the olympics. its KINDA a big deal. you idiot.


Everybody knows you're a closet co(ksucking f@ggot.

[KiiiiNG]

Everybody knows you're a closet co(ksucking f@ggot.
oh hey dumb guy with stupid opinions

you're obviously a closet gay the way you bring it up in every conversation.

all signs point to you being a gay man. or maybe you're too stupid to realize gay and transgender are completely different things.

you're either stupid or stupid and gay. :bowdown:

[knickballer]

Man I don't give a F what he wants to do with his life. My point is---why are we as a society celebrating this as if he cured cancer?

Most people and especially your average sports fan knows its BS but they won't say it due to the fear of being criticized and viewed as "intolerant". You're going to have some dumbass athlete who couldn't pass basic math or were arrested for beating their wife commenting on how brave caitlyn is just to sit on their moral high horse like they give a ****. And you're gonna have that one OG athlete saying how they really feel and be roasted/fined for stating their thoughts.

And that's what it comes down to.. People saying shes so brave to act all mighty and tolerant. WTF does a dude having an identity crisis do with sports. For example, a NewCastle player(soccer) beat cancer, returned to play this year and scored the teams most important goal of the season to help them stay in the EPL but nah lets give the award to a transgender?

ESPN is obviously doing it for marketing purposes.

[sammichoffate]

He ain't no Jackie Robinson, Bill Russell, or Ali, that's for sure. Shit, even Jason Collins did more for Gay Athletes compared to what this "woman" has done :facepalm

[sammichoffate]

Most people and especially your average sports fan knows its BS but they won't say it due to the fear of being criticized and viewed as "intolerant". You're going to have some dumbass athlete who couldn't pass basic math or were arrested for beating their wife commenting on how brave caitlyn is just to sit on their moral high horse like they give a ****. And you're gonna have that one OG athlete saying how they really feel and be roasted/fined for stating their thoughts.

And that's what it comes down to.. People saying shes so brave to act all mighty and tolerant. WTF does a dude having an identity crisis do with sports. For example, a NewCastle player(soccer) beat cancer, returned to play this year and scored the teams most important goal of the season to help them stay in the EPL but nah lets give the award to a transgender?

ESPN is obviously doing it for marketing purposes.^this. This so much, it's not even funny. It's irritating as shit to see something like the NewCastle player get glossed over for something like this.

[KiiiiNG]

so the anti jenner hate begins...

this gay tranny freak has a gold medalist to her name.

what do YOU losers have? except a cheap laptop and an anonymous account.

****ing NOBODIES. how could you possibly watch that dianne sawyer special and come out hating?

hating on caitlyn, hating on espn, hating on society. you people are ****ing retarded. :facepalm

[ace23]

Most people and especially your average sports fan knows its BS but they won't say it due to the fear of being criticized and viewed as "intolerant". You're going to have some dumbass athlete who couldn't pass basic math or were arrested for beating their wife commenting on how brave caitlyn is just to sit on their moral high horse like they give a ****. And you're gonna have that one OG athlete saying how they really feel and be roasted/fined for stating their thoughts.

And that's what it comes down to.. People saying shes so brave to act all mighty and tolerant. WTF does a dude having an identity crisis do with sports. For example, a NewCastle player(soccer) beat cancer, returned to play this year and scored the teams most important goal of the season to help them stay in the EPL but nah lets give the award to a transgender?

ESPN is obviously doing it for marketing purposes.
So you don't think doing what she did took courage?

[KiiiiNG]

So you don't think doing what she did took courage?
he wouldnt know courage if it slapped him in the back of his fat ass head.

these people are idiots.

[L.Kizzle]

So you don't think doing what she did took courage?
Courage is saving someone out of a burning building.

Nothing courageous about wanting to be a girl.

[Patrick Chewing]

What a ****ing spectacle.

[KiiiiNG]

Courage is saving someone out of a burning building.

Nothing courageous about wanting to be a girl.
but coming out to the world and being a spokesperson for trans people is courageous

i dont think you have enough brain power to grasp the situation

[L.Kizzle]

but coming out to the world and being a spokesperson for trans people is courageous

i dont think you have enough brain power to grasp the situation
It's nothing courageous about it. A guy wants to be a girl. That's fine. I know a pretty cool guy who dresses as a girl. Ain't nothing courageous about him, he just doing what he wants to do.

[Patrick Chewing]

but coming out to the world and being a spokesperson for trans people is courageous

i dont think you have enough brain power to grasp the situation


Wanting to be a girl is a mental disorder. They have medication for that. The problem is that Bruce has lived in the limelight all his life and has had a poor support system around him.

You can't go against DNA and Science. And both of them say that Bruce will always be a man, no matter how much makeup he puts on or if he cuts his dick off.

[KiiiiNG]

It's nothing courageous about it. A guy wants to be a girl. That's fine. I know a pretty cool guy who dresses as a girl. Ain't nothing courageous about him, he just doing what he wants to do.
lets ignore that hes wildly famous former olympic athlete who came out on national television

lets also ignore that trans people have been looked down upon by society for forever

add those together and you cant find anything courageous? HELLO!

[L.Kizzle]

lets ignore that hes wildly famous former olympic athlete who came out on national television

lets also ignore that trans people have been looked down upon by society for forever

add those together and you cant find anything courageous? HELLO!
Didn't know it was courageous to admit you're gay now. Wait, unless you're a Olympic Medalist.

The world we live in now.
#Peta

[knickballer]

So you don't think doing what she did took courage?


Bottom line is ESPN has jumped on the marketing campaign which is Caitlyn Jenner(and I understand it from a business perspective). Although it's an award that holds no merit lets be honest with ourselves in that they didn't even consider an alternative as this was just too lucrative to past up. It's also kinda ridiculous since Jenner competed like 40 years ago and if that's the case I'm sure there are some former athletes in the past 40 years who done some remarkable things. Like Dider Drogba ending a civil war for the 2006 world cup and donating to fight poverty in Africa? Or a MLS player going through a bone marrow transplant surgery to save a former teammates wife(and ending his season and possible career in the process?)

I mean it's obvious ESPN dgaf and did it for the $$(and I understand). Just have like a 10 minute special about her and stopping beating the bush by stating she had courage.


PS, I just read about this guy's story
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGgkUOsVAAEEdZf.jpg:large

[KiiiiNG]

Didn't know it was courageous to admit you're gay now. Wait, unless you're a Olympic Medalist.

The world we live in now.
#Peta
famous people get famous awards.

herp derp...

and it many situations it takes courage to admit you're gay or in bruces case, a woman.

you're not a very bright guy though, so i understand your confusion.

[outbreak]

It's nothing courageous about it. A guy wants to be a girl. That's fine. I know a pretty cool guy who dresses as a girl. Ain't nothing courageous about him, he just doing what he wants to do.

And you don't think it takes courage to openly come out in the media and talk about it so that he can help other people who are struggling do the same thing? He's made himself a lightening rod for people who hate trans people, he didn't have to do that. He could have quietly had the op done and tried to disappear from the public eye and distance himself from the issue.

[knickballer]

Didn't know it was courageous to admit you're gay now. Wait, unless you're a Olympic Medalist.

The world we live in now.
#Peta

This. Jenner obviously is craving the attention behind this. Lemme just document this whole journey 24/7 so I have perfect material for my TV series this summer which is gonna be a huge hit. OHHH the courage! Give me break lmao


These Karsashians/Jenner are a marketing machine I tell you

[KiiiiNG]

And you don't think it takes courage to openly come out in the media and talk about it so that he can help other people who are struggling do the same thing? He's made himself a lightening rod for people who hate trans people, he didn't have to do that. He could have quietly had the op done and tried to disappear from the public eye and distance himself from the issue.
well said!

but you're a ****** for saying this.

[Patrick Chewing]

And you don't think it takes courage to openly come out in the media and talk about it so that he can help other people who are struggling do the same thing? He's made himself a lightening rod for people who hate trans people, he didn't have to do that. He could have quietly had the op done and tried to disappear from the public eye and distance himself from the issue.


If becoming a woman was illegal, then that's a different story, but transgender people are such a minority that no one really should care at this point about them.


In fact, changing sexes should be illegal for doctors to perform. Face it, if you feel you were supposed to be a woman, but were born a man, then there is something wrong with you that you feel that way. How insane that as a society we are now chopping ***** off left and right as if it's the new fad.

All these people are sick.

[Jameerthefear]

And you don't think it takes courage to openly come out in the media and talk about it so that he can help other people who are struggling do the same thing? He's made himself a lightening rod for people who hate trans people, he didn't have to do that. He could have quietly had the op done and tried to disappear from the public eye and distance himself from the issue.
Don't be a cuck outbreak...

[L.Kizzle]

Risking your life for another and feets of that nature, that takes courage.

Saying you're gay doesn't take courage.
People will talk about you, so what. People talk about perfectly normal people too ... get over it.

[ace23]

knickballer typed all that shit and didn't answer the question.

So do you or do you not think what she did took courage? If so, stop complaining. If not, you're wrong. :confusedshrug:

[DCL]

There's a huge big f--king difference between tolerating some sick disgusting behavior and EMBRACING it.

Tolerating is one thing, but f-king embrace it is another. Why the F do we have to embrace it????

You got stupid queers like KiiiNG who go ballistic if people refuse to embrace this stupid and sick behavior. That movement is so retarded.

If you feel kinda grossed out about a man converting his male genitals into a ****** so he can get fu.ked by penises, you are normal because, let's be f--king real, that shit is beyond WTF. But if you are trying to suppress what you feel because society is trying to brainwash you into thinking it's wrong to have feelings about what makes you cringe, you are just falling for PC bullshit crap.

More people need to stand and say F-k that bullshit nonsense.

[nathanjizzle]

gay rights is the modern version of civil rights movement in the 60's but to a lesser degree. it wasnt stupid to give black athletes notoriety for being black athletes in all white leagues. and its not stupid for gay athletes to come out in sports where players are expected to be straight masculine types competing with one another.

[niko]

I feel bad for him, clearly the Kardashian shit has messed him up.

[LikeABosh]

http://replygif.net/i/100.gif

[oh the horror]

I tolerate it and hell I'll accept it. If that is what makes you happy then by all means go for it but don't sit there as someone else stated and ask me to embrace it and when I don't, suddenly I become the person heavily judged and burnt alive at the stake?


I've seen a lot of this shit where if a person doesn't agree with that lifestyle be it gay, transgendered etc all of a sudden everyone is spitting venom at that individual.


So essentially they shouldn't judge you but you should judge them so to speak. Got it

[L.Kizzle]

gay rights is the modern version of civil rights movement in the 60's but to a lesser degree. it wasnt stupid to give black athletes notoriety for being black athletes in all white leagues. and its not stupid for gay athletes to come out in sports where players are expected to be straight masculine types competing with one another.
:biggums:

A lifestyle is different from race you are. Come on man.

[senelcoolidge]

Didn't he kill someone in a car accident? He should be heading to jail/prison soon enough. They will love him in prison.

[tpols]

I feel bad for him, clearly the Kardashian shit has messed him up.

exactly.. he's just fk'ed up, probably doped out and people are saying hes doing heroic shit smh

[Batz]

ITT: We realize the ESPYs are still around



It's just a publicity stunt to make the ESPYs relevant.

[oh the horror]

ITT: We realize the ESPYs are still around



It's just a publicity stunt to make the ESPYs relevant.


Basically then we get reminded how useless these award shows are

[LikeABosh]

Trans people are severally mentally ill. It's no wonder their suicide rate is so ridiculously high. They need mental help, not gender reassignment surgery.

[oh the horror]

Trans people are severally mentally ill. It's no wonder their suicide rate is so ridiculously high. They need mental help, not gender reassignment surgery.





Tell me (and this is a question for anyone here) do you believe their suicide rate is so high because of their lack of feeling of belonging in terms of not being able to indentify with anyone because let's face it not many transgendered out there are landing great well off boyfriends and these same trans folks aren't usually still into women ....so their feeling of not being socially accepted leads them to suicide, or is it just the general chemical imbalance making them wonky as **** along with pouring hormones into an already confused system.


Hope that made some sense it's hard to get a point across via an iPhone

[BigBoss]

because it took a lot of courage to do what he's doing.

SIMPLE. Its the courage award, you clown.

he's wildly popular former gold medalist in the olympics. its KINDA a big deal. you idiot.

Bruce Jenner is a sociopathic/transgender killer and should be ashamed of himself for not giving a $hit about that women he killed a few months ago in a car accident.

He ran around in circles then 30 years filmed a reality show, then he got his D chopped off and we should celebrate this guy. I'm the idiot? :roll:

[Charlie Sheen]

Bruce Jenner is a sociopathic/transgender killer and should be ashamed of himself for not giving a $hit about that women he killed a few months ago in a car accident.

He ran around in circles then 30 years filmed a reality show, then he got his D chopped off and we should celebrate this guy. I'm the idiot? :roll:

There's a bigger issue at play.

You were looking forward to the ESPY's? :biggums:

[BigBoss]

There's a bigger issue at play.

You were looking forward to the ESPY's? :biggums:

Stay on topic tranny lover. What has LOLCats started on ISH :facepalm

[Lakers Legend#32]

Love seeing all the conservatives heads exploding.

[Jameerthefear]

Love seeing all the conservatives heads exploding.
i'm not even conservative

[zoom17]

Love seeing all the conservatives heads exploding.

It has nothing to do with that.

[BigBoss]

Love seeing all the conservatives heads exploding.

So you support a killer?

[BigBoss]

It has nothing to do with that.

Your dp has been my wallpaper background last few months :cheers:

[JerrySeinfeld]

Quit watching TV, quit caring about the media/news.

Only time I watch TV is when basketball is on. Otherwise I'd literally rather sit on the couch doing nothing.

[BigBoss]

Quit watching TV, quit caring about the media/news.

.

Same. I just need to cut back on internet because it's dumbing me the F down.

[ArbitraryWater]

Who cares.. now people are complaining?

You could say the same thing about cancer... And btw, there are thousands of army 'veterans' that lose body parts...

What she did was honorable, deal with it.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Same. I just need to cut back on internet because it's dumbing me the F down.

lol agreed with that. supposed to be working on homework right now, too addicted to the action of browsing the web aimlessly :oldlol:

[BigBoss]

lol agreed with that. supposed to be working on homework right now, too addicted to the action of browsing the web aimlessly :oldlol:

I hear you man :lol.

[The Iron Sheik]

bruce's medals shouldn't count for caitlyn. that would be like mankind's title reigns being switched over to cactus jack or dude love.

[bdreason]

This guy has a serious mental disorder, and it's being celebrated on national TV with an award. :facepalm

[KiiiiNG]

This guy has a serious mental disorder, and it's being celebrated on national TV with an award. :facepalm
:facepalm

incurable, unrecognizable 'disorder' since childhood...

they're celebrating HIM not his invisible 'disorder', you clown.

[BigBoss]

:facepalm

incurable, unrecognizable 'disorder' since childhood...

they're celebrating HIM not his invisible 'disorder', you clown.

That's "the story" made up by his publicist. It's BS. He's been hanging around the Kardashian clan and the glam lifestyle it got to his head. He probably went through an unresolved mid-life crisis because he doesn't have shit to do with his life after the Olympics and it's now manifesting into Caitlyn.

Sheep and the uneducated like you will jump on the bandwagon and call this brave when it's really not.

p.s.

I dedicate this post to you.

[KiiiiNG]

BS. He's been hanging around the Kardashian clan and the glam lifestyle it got to his head. He probably went through an unresolved mid-life crisis and it's now manifesting into Caitlyn.

Sheep and the uneducated like you will jump on the bandwagon so carry on.

p.s.

I dedicate this post to you.
why ain't scott disik turning into a woman then?

that dude hangs IN and AROUND the kardashian clan. literally in one of the kardashians.

still a dude.

bro i watch the show almost every day. i have a soft spot for bruce/caitlyn. he/she is just a good person. people make out the kardashians to be the devil but they're actually good, kind hearted people.

bruce is a saint. and it makes me upset when you guys talk down on him and make a mockery of his life.

[bdreason]

:facepalm

incurable, unrecognizable 'disorder' since childhood...

they're celebrating HIM not his invisible 'disorder', you clown.



If he was diagnosed with depression, would they celebrate his condition and give him an award? Or would they recommend he get some professional counseling?

This guy lived 50+ years as a man, then spent 10 years on a reality show with 6? women (divas)... and all of a sudden he wants to become a woman (diva)? Sorry, I'm not buying the whole "I was born this way" argument, not in this circumstance.

And how come ESPN never recognized his athletic achievements before he decided to become a woman? They aren't celebrating Bruce Jenner the athlete, they're using him as a freak-show to get ratings.

[BigBoss]

why ain't scott disik turning into a woman then?

that dude hangs IN and AROUND the kardashian clan. literally in one of the kardashians.

still a dude.

bro i watch the show almost every day. i have a soft spot for bruce/caitlyn. he/she is just a good person. people make out the kardashians to be the devil but they're actually good, kind hearted people.

bruce is a saint. and it makes me upset when you guys talk down on him and make a mockery of his life.

Because Bruce is probably ( or obviously) bisexual. Scott's not.

This is the dumbest comment of the day by the way. Congratulations.

p.s. I dedicate this post to you.

[KiiiiNG]

If he was diagnosed with depression, would they celebrate his condition and give him an award? Or would they recommend he get some professional counseling?

This guy lived 50+ years as a man, then spent 10 years on a reality show with 6? women (divas)... and all of a sudden he wants to become a woman (diva)? Sorry, I'm not buying the whole "I was born this way" argument, not in this circumstance.

And how come ESPN never recognized his athletic achievements before he decided to become a woman? They aren't celebrating Bruce Jenner the athlete, they're using him as a freak-show to get ratings.
yep, he just made up all those stories for publicity.

taking hormones and getting his dick turned into a vag, for shits and giggles.

what a moronic dude you are to even imply that he wasn't born this way. jesus christ! whats next... you gonna deny evolution?

i mean really dude. you're going off the ****ing deep end here. bruce was taking hormones as far back as the 80's.

i take it you didnt watch the sawyer interview.

[ArbitraryWater]

yep, he just made up all those stories for publicity.

taking hormones and getting his dick turned into a vag, for shits and giggles.

what a moronic dude you are to even imply that he wasn't born this way. jesus christ! whats next... you gonna deny evolution?

i mean really dude. you're going off the ****ing deep end here. bruce was taking hormones as far back as the 80's.

i take it you didnt watch the sawyer interview.

Yea...people are hella ignorant.

[Nick Young]

lol ESPN has gone full retard

[JerrySeinfeld]

I welcome the day where making a personal choice such as this isn't seen as heroic and a bunch of other shit but rather a personal choice and nothing more.

So for this award, they couldn't find ANYONE else more deserving? Lol I don't see how.

[Dresta]

knickballer typed all that shit and didn't answer the question.

So do you or do you not think what she did took courage? If so, stop complaining. If not, you're wrong. :confusedshrug:
You have incredibly low expectations of what constitutes 'courage' if you really think it is courageous to do something that will get an incredible amount of publicity, and have hundreds of thousands of morons applauding how 'brave' he/she/it is.

There is nothing 'courageous' about getting a sex change, nor being on a magazine cover, nor being 'honoured' for having an operation and clear mental problems.

[Nick Young]

what about that chick who got shot in the head for protesting womens rights in Pakistan? Bruce Jenner deserves the award over her. How much money are the Kardashians pumping in to the media to push this non-story? No one gave a shit when one of the Wachowski bros turned himself in to a 'woman' 5 years ago.

[Dresta]

PS, I just read about this guy's story
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGgkUOsVAAEEdZf.jpg:large


:roll:

What's wrong with you people? Don't you realise this was one of the most heroic and brave things ever done by a human being? Shame on you for not recognising such incredible courage!!

[Eric Cartman]

After reading the comments here I gotta say:

ESPN is doing this retarded stunt for attention and it's working (people who hate/love her).

There is some trauma/mental illness that goes into changing your sex, especially Bruce in that chaotic home environment.

That being said, if you care about this story or his/her ESPY nomination, I feel sorry for you.

[warriorfan]

Extra Smoked ***** Yep

[Jameerthefear]

what about that chick who got shot in the head for protesting womens rights in Pakistan? Bruce Jenner deserves the award over her. How much money are the Kardashians pumping in to the media to push this non-story? No one gave a shit when one of the Wachowski bros turned himself in to a 'woman' 5 years ago.
no that wouldn't make sense. that sounds like someone feminists SHOULD actually be supporting! instead they are parading around calling a mentally disturbed mongrel courageous :roll:
Feminism is a ****ing joke :roll:

[rufuspaul]

If he was diagnosed with depression, would they celebrate his condition and give him an award? Or would they recommend he get some professional counseling?

This guy lived 50+ years as a man, then spent 10 years on a reality show with 6? women (divas)... and all of a sudden he wants to become a woman (diva)? Sorry, I'm not buying the whole "I was born this way" argument, not in this circumstance.

And how come ESPN never recognized his athletic achievements before he decided to become a woman? They aren't celebrating Bruce Jenner the athlete, they're using him as a freak-show to get ratings.


Jenner's mental disorder is that he can't stand not being in the limelight. Since his divorce from Chris he realized that no one gives a shit about a 65 year old former Olympic athlete, so he goes and gets breast implants and some hormone injections, puts on a dress and makeup and bam, back in the spotlight.

[Dresta]

what about that chick who got shot in the head for protesting womens rights in Pakistan? Bruce Jenner deserves the award over her. How much money are the Kardashians pumping in to the media to push this non-story? No one gave a shit when one of the Wachowski bros turned himself in to a 'woman' 5 years ago.
She was being culturally insensitive don't ya know? We don't honour cultural elitists in this day and age; it isn't the bloody Dark Ages or something, GAWD!

Intolerance just makes me so mad

:rant

[Out_In_Utah]

Good for the ESPYs. Sports is one of the most homophobic and transphobic institutions today, so this is a pretty huge step in the right direction.

[DCL]

why ain't scott disik turning into a woman then?

that dude hangs IN and AROUND the kardashian clan. literally in one of the kardashians.

still a dude.

bro i watch the show almost every day. i have a soft spot for bruce/caitlyn. he/she is just a good person. people make out the kardashians to be the devil but they're actually good, kind hearted people.

bruce is a saint. and it makes me upset when you guys talk down on him and make a mockery of his life.



not as upset as your dad because he raised a f@ggot ass tranny lover.

[Out_In_Utah]

That vet who is still doing sports meets most of my criteria for "brave" in the sports world, but I do think Jenner coming out is braver. NOBODY would criticize that guy for competing, it is only praise. Jenner came out knowing that he would get some praise, but he would also get tons of criticism. That takes more bravery IMO.

[Patrick Chewing]

Jenner came out knowing that he would get some praise, but he would also get tons of criticism. That takes more bravery IMO.


He's only getting criticism because he's in the public spotlight. He chose to go on national television and cry his eyes out. I think most of the criticism is directed at him because the world is tired of hearing about him and the Kardashians who are famous for no reason whatsoever.

[NumberSix]

It's the progressive/feminist bullshit. That heathen should be demonized, not celebrated.
I don't know if you can classify this one as "feminist".

The more hardcore feminists seem to be very against this kind of thing. They talk like it's all just a trick so men can get closer to women and rape them.

I'm not kidding at all. This idea is actually very common among the more loony feminists.

[NumberSix]

:facepalm

incurable, unrecognizable 'disorder' since childhood...

they're celebrating HIM not his invisible 'disorder', you clown.
Bigot.

[Jameerthefear]

I don't know if you can classify this one as "feminist".

The more hardcore feminists seem to be very against this kind of thing. They talk like it's all just a trick so men can get closer to women and rape them.

I'm not kidding at all. This idea is actually very common among the more loony feminists.
The more mainstream feminist opinion (see: talking heads like Michelle Beadle, Rachel Nichols, Anita Sharkeesan) COMPLETELY support this. It's a ****ing joke.

[Jameerthefear]

That vet who is still doing sports meets most of my criteria for "brave" in the sports world, but I do think Jenner coming out is braver. NOBODY would criticize that guy for competing, it is only praise. Jenner came out knowing that he would get some praise, but he would also get tons of criticism. That takes more bravery IMO.
I really hope this is a troll post.

[RRR3]

He's only getting criticism because he's in the public spotlight. He chose to go on national television and cry his eyes out. I think most of the criticism is directed at him because the world is tired of hearing about him and the Kardashians who are famous for no reason whatsoever.
Jenner is famous for a very good reason

http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/55018-flashback-friday-bruce-jenner-wins-gold-medal-at-1976-olympic-games/1344626706_bruce-medal-467.jpg

[Ratnik]

Whats the story behind these Oscar De La Hoya pics?

[RRR3]

Whats the story behind these Oscar De La Hoya pics?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=oscar+de+la+hoya+cross+dressing

[Patrick Chewing]

Jenner is famous for a very good reason

http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/55018-flashback-friday-bruce-jenner-wins-gold-medal-at-1976-olympic-games/1344626706_bruce-medal-467.jpg


As I said, "...and the Kardashians, who are famous for no reason whatsoever."

[RRR3]

As I said, "...and the Kardashians, who are famous for no reason whatsoever."
:cheers: Misread sorry.

[L.Kizzle]

Whats the story behind these Oscar De La Hoya pics?
He bet Floyd that of he lost to him, he'd dress up like the ladies on The Money Team.

[~primetime~]

If he was diagnosed with depression, would they celebrate his condition and give him an award? Or would they recommend he get some professional counseling?

This guy lived 50+ years as a man, then spent 10 years on a reality show with 6? women (divas)... and all of a sudden he wants to become a woman (diva)? Sorry, I'm not buying the whole "I was born this way" argument, not in this circumstance.

And how come ESPN never recognized his athletic achievements before he decided to become a woman? They aren't celebrating Bruce Jenner the athlete, they're using him as a freak-show to get ratings.
Naw, the Kardashians didn't do this to him, if you listen to his ex wife who he was married to before ever meeting a Kardashian, she says she could tell something was up with him.

There are interviews with her talking about how there was something different about Bruce.



NOW...being with the Kardashians might have given him some kind of mental boost to come out to the world, but he was always "a woman trapped in a man's body"

[KNOW1EDGE]

Yes, how brave of Bruce to have a mental-illness.

Remember when actual heroes like Pat Tillman were honored at the ESPYs?

Then we honor Michael Sam, a mediocre football player who couldn't make the NFL and happened to be homosexual- how brave!

And now Bruce Jenner- a heck of an athlete who has a mental illness that he succumbed to- How brave!!

[Patrick Chewing]

Yes, how brave of Bruce to have a mental-illness.

Remember when actual heroes like Pat Tillman were honored at the ESPYs?

Then we honor Michael Sam, a mediocre football player who couldn't make the NFL and happened to be homosexual- how brave!

And now Bruce Jenner- a heck of an athlete who has a mental illness that he succumbed to- How brave!!


Here's a look into the ESPY future...

1. Honoring the athlete who has 3 breasts.

2. Honoring the athlete with a surgically attached 2nd p3nis.

3. Honoring someone who removed all genitalia and who does not want to be known as either male or female. Just an "athlete".

4. Honoring the first person to give AIDS to himself in honor of Arthur Ashe.

5. Honoring the first athlete brave enough to marry a football.

[sweggeh]

I think Patrick Chewing has repressed sexual desires with regards to men. I think Caitlyn is on his mind when he really wishes she would be on his 1 inch dick.

Just say it cuz. We may not understand your feelings but we respect you. You aint gotta put on a show.

[NumberSix]

NOW...being with the Kardashians might have given him some kind of mental boost to come out to the world, but he was always "a woman trapped in a man's body"
I still don't really understands what that means.

It seems like what they're insinuating is that a female soul somehow accidentally got placed into a male body, but they don't outright say that because they know its unscientific.

Who knows. Maybe that really is the case. Maybe we really all do have souls and sometimes there is a mistake.

For the people that don't believe in souls though, what do they mean by "woman in a mans body"?

[The Iron Sheik]

since when does being a transvestite / transsexual take courage? where the **** was little richard's espy in the 50s?

[~primetime~]

I still don't really understands what that means.

It seems like what they're insinuating is that a female soul somehow accidentally got placed into a male body, but they don't outright say that because they know its unscientific.

Who knows. Maybe that really is the case. Maybe we really all do have souls and sometimes there is a mistake.

For the people that don't believe in souls though, what do they mean by "woman in a mans body"?
it's not unscientific...men and women have different brains (obviously)

sometimes nature screws up and matches a male body with a female brain and vise versa

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html#.VW9g6c9VhBc

Bruce is mentally a female, born with a male body

[NumberSix]

it's not unscientific...men and women have different brains (obviously)

sometimes nature screws up and matches a male body with a female brain and vise versa

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html#.VW9g6c9VhBc

Bruce is mentally a female, born with a male body
What the hell is a "female brain"? :confusedshrug:

Does his brain make sure that blood is circulated to his male organ? Do the nerves in his male organs successfully interact with his brain? If so, apparently, he has a male brain.

[~primetime~]

What the hell is a "female brain"? :confusedshrug:

Does his brain make sure that blood is circulated to his male organ? Do the nerves in his male organs successfully interact with his brain? If so, apparently, he has a male brain.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders

[NumberSix]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders
It's really difficult to keep up with left wing social arguments. On one hand, men and women are the exact same and gender is just a social construct. On the other hand, males and females have different brains, and trans people have a brain that doesn't match their body.

So basically, "gender" is not real...... Unless we're talking about transgenders.

[Lakers Legend#32]

It does take courage to take all the heat he is getting from right-wing rednecks.

[~primetime~]

It's really difficult to keep up with left wing social arguments. On one hand, men and women are the exact same and gender is just a social construct. On the other hand, males and females have different brains, and trans people have a brain that doesn't match their body.

So basically, "gender" is not real...... Unless we're talking about transgenders.
that "hand" is the correct hand

[NumberSix]

It does take courage to take all the heat he is getting from right-wing rednecks.
Isn't Bruce Jenner a right winger?

[NumberSix]

that "hand" is the correct hand
So then why is it deemed "sexist" to suggest that men are better suited to some tasks and women are better suited to others?

And if somebody with a male body has a female brain, why do their male-only organs work? Why would a female brain be setup to run male organs?

[~primetime~]

So then why is it deemed "sexist" to suggest that men are better suited to some tasks and women are better suited to others?
For some tasks it probably shouldn't be deemed that way

A born lesbian would have a "male brain" though

[~primetime~]

And if somebody with a male body has a female brain, why do their male-only organs work? Why would a female brain be setup to run male organs?
your heart pumps blood to your dick...your brain doesn't

being turned on by men/women is a product of the brain though...so I am betting Bruce had issues getting it up with women up because he is attracted to men, and not women. Probably took viagra for help.

[NumberSix]

For some tasks it probably shouldn't be deemed that way

A born lesbian would have a "male brain" though
So what's the difference between a woman who is both mentally and physically a woman who is sexually attracted to other women.... And a woman who is actually a man trapped in a woman's body?

[NumberSix]

your heart pumps blood to your dick...your brain doesn't

being turned on by men/women is a product of the brain though...so I am betting Bruce had issues getting it up with women up because he is attracted to men, and not women. Probably took viagra for help.
So then why does a dick get hard when your brain thinks about sex?

[~primetime~]

So what's the difference between a woman who is both mentally and physically a woman who is sexually attracted to other women.... And a woman who is actually a man trapped in a woman's body?
sexual attraction is complex shit...but if the woman was born attracted to females, I would assume that woman was born with a "male brain"

[~primetime~]

So then why does a dick get hard when your brain thinks about sex?
it sends a signal to you circulatory system

[TripleA]

Ya women get acid thrown in their face in pakistan and india for not accepting a date but **** feminism its terrible.
These people hating feminism should hate on these american primma donnas but not the women who are fighting for the right not to be killed for being a women.

[Stempel, HERB]

~idioittime~ guns blazing on a topic he's clueless. I've seen this episode a million times before

[NumberSix]

it sends a signal to you circulatory system
What signal? Why would a female brain send a signal to make a dick hard? Do female brains in female bodies send these "make the dick get hard" signals too?

[~primetime~]

What signal? Why would a female brain send a signal to make a dick hard? Do female brains in female bodies send these "make the dick get hard" signals too?
it sends a signal to "get wet"


Like I said, I would assume Bruce had trouble getting an erection while with females, and probably had to take pills to help out.

[~primetime~]

just read the links I posted...no need to ask me.

here is another

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/111663.php

[Out_In_Utah]

What signal? Why would a female brain send a signal to make a dick hard? Do female brains in female bodies send these "make the dick get hard" signals too?

I swear some females send signals to mine. :pimp:

[~primetime~]

Gay Men, Straight Women Have Similar Brains (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080616-gay-brain_2.html)

Gay men and heterosexual women have similarly shaped brains, research shows (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/jun/16/neuroscience.psychology)

Symmetry Of Homosexual Brain Resembles That Of Opposite Sex, Swedish Study Finds (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617151845.htm)

etc

etc

etc

[NumberSix]

it sends a signal to "get wet"


Like I said, I would assume Bruce had trouble getting an erection while with females, and probably had to take pills to help out.
How did he have so many kids? How does his balls and his prostate work? How do those work with a female brain? Isn't that like connecting a Nintendo controller to an xbox? The shits not compatible.

[NumberSix]

Gay Men, Straight Women Have Similar Brains (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080616-gay-brain_2.html)

Gay men and heterosexual women have similarly shaped brains, research shows (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/jun/16/neuroscience.psychology)

Symmetry Of Homosexual Brain Resembles That Of Opposite Sex, Swedish Study Finds (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617151845.htm)

etc

etc

etc
So what the difference between A gay guy's brain and Bruce Jenner's brain?

Okay, so, men can be born with a woman's brain. Can whites be born with a black brain?

Is Bruce Jenner's brain a white woman or a black woman?

[~primetime~]

How did he have so many kids? How does his balls and his prostate work? How do those work with a female brain? Isn't that like connecting a Nintendo controller to an xbox? The shits not compatible.
okay, well I guess you got it all figured out then...balls/prostate only compatible with one brain type, like an xbox controller

[Megabox!]

I feel bad for him, clearly the Kardashian shit has messed him up.
Nah he was like this waaaaaay before the Kardashians were even a thing

[L.Kizzle]

since when does being a transvestite / transsexual take courage? where the **** was little richard's espy in the 50s?
A black man is not getting an EPSY in 1956. It would have went to Liberace.

[tomtucker]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Avvakum_by_Myasoyedov.jpeg

.
http://www.tillhecomes.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/burn-at-stake.jpg

the good old days

[KNOW1EDGE]

Bruce is mentally ill.

And instead of helping this man, the media is encouraging, applauding and making money off of his illness.

'Murica!!!!

Does everyone/anyone know what x and y chromosomes are?

[KiiiiNG]

Bruce is mentally ill.

And instead of helping this man, the media is encouraging, applauding and making money off of his illness.

'Murica!!!!

Does everyone/anyone know what x and y chromosomes are?
ok, moron. how do you suggest they 'help' him?

i guarantee you she is happier now as caitlyn than at any point as bruce. you're too ****ing stupid to understand a complex situation like this so you lash out with anger.

actually, you're stupid on every single subject you post about, ever. you're one of the stupidest people on the internet of all time. :lol

nobody takes you seriously. just making sure you know that.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Lol ok simon.

Do you know anything about x and y chromosomes?

Have you ever heard of doctors?

Plz answer

[Eric Cartman]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Avvakum_by_Myasoyedov.jpeg

.
http://www.tillhecomes.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/burn-at-stake.jpg

the good old days
:applause:

[sundizz]

This is so ridiculous and American. Celebrating individualism to the nth degree. Give this award every year to Ernie Johnson until somebody else does something that actually is courageous. Satisfying your own internal desires and wants, while human, is not the sort of courage that should be celebrated. All this does is glorify the me over we mentality. Award/recognition worthy is sacrificing to help the lives of others.

[BasedTom]

What confuses me is how wikipedia's article retroactively refers to Jenner as a woman...way back when he was a dude. So there's pictures of "Caitlyn" as a regular dude walking down the street, or references to "her" fathering children after impregnating a woman with "her" *****.

So when people do the whole trans business, do they also expect you to retroactively refer to them as whatever they are now? Is it offensive to make a distinction? A transformation is defined as a change, but if they are claiming to have always been what they are, then they haven't actually transformed in that case, have they?

[Nick Young]

We recognize this shit as insane and crazy. Teenagers and kids growing up are going to be raised thinking shit like this is normal:facepalm

[DCL]

it's natural to feel all sorts of uncomfortable cringe when you see or hear about a transgendered freak chopping his d!ck off. the feeling of emotions does not have to be taught by the environment because it is 100% natural (if you are a normal male). you gotta be seriously f--ked in the head to be inspired by the story of a man chopping his pen!s off and morphing his genitalia into a vag!na so that he can spread his hairy legs wide open and get f--ked by another man's pen!s. if that description excited you btw, it is because you are a f@ggot.

[Nick Young]

it's natural to feel all sorts of uncomfortable cringe when you see or hear about a transgendered freak chopping his d!ck off. the feeling of emotions does not have to be taught by the environment because it is 100% natural (if you are a normal male). you gotta be seriously f--ked in the head to be inspired by the story of a man chopping his pen!s off and morphing his genitalia into a vag!na so that he can spread his hairy legs wide open and get f--ked by another man's pen!s. if that description excited you btw, it is because you are a f@ggot.
It's not even a ****** He chopped off his ***** and paid surgeons thousands of dollars to make it slightly resemble a ******. He has no womb. He's just a man with mental health problems.

This is some serious Emperors New Clothes shit.

[NumberSix]

We recognize this shit as insane and crazy. Teenagers and kids growing up are going to be raised thinking shit like this is normal:facepalm
Do we know that it isn't?:confusedshrug:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Do we know that it isn't?:confusedshrug:

Yes. We know it isn't normal for men to think they are women and want to cut of their dix and change their appearance to resemble a woman.

If you are confused by this then I'm not really sure what to tell you. My suggestion would be take a class at your local community college. Or do some research online.

[LikeABosh]

ok, moron. how do you suggest they 'help' him?

i guarantee you she is happier now as caitlyn than at any point as bruce. you're too ****ing stupid to understand a complex situation like this so you lash out with anger.

actually, you're stupid on every single subject you post about, ever. you're one of the stupidest people on the internet of all time. :lol

nobody takes you seriously. just making sure you know that.
Lets see if your saying the same thing after he kills himself.

[Nick Young]

Do we know that it isn't?:confusedshrug:
Yes. Body dysmorphia is a mental health illness also known as BDD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder

Coddling and pandering to these people with severe mental health conditions is not the correct form of treatment. It's the same as bowing down to and following someone with schizophrenia, and pandering to their every wish, and then glorifying them as brave heroes.

[Patrick Chewing]

The United States is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

[Eric Cartman]

How are we gonna explain this to the children?

Think about the children.

[~primetime~]

it's ESPN guys, an ESPY...it's okay, really...we'll survive

[Out_In_Utah]

Yes. We know it isn't normal for men to think they are women and want to cut of their dix and change their appearance to resemble a woman.

If you are confused by this then I'm not really sure what to tell you. My suggestion would be take a class at your local community college. Or do some research online.

I can't say I have ever had a professor tell me that, but maybe because my college didn't offer transphobia 101. Could you point me towards a school that offers that course?