Exactly how good is Stephen Curry...

[Rocketswin2013]

Better than LeBron, Prime Kobe? Dirk? Wade? Durant? People aleady say he's better than Paul and Westbrook..So how good is he?

It's like no-one has expectations for this guy. Depending on how he's rated, he should be expected to win this series with no problems.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Not better than LeBron, prime Kobe, or Durant. The hype train is out of control.

[riseagainst]

he's already the GOAT shooter. But as an overall player, he aint better than those guys.

[r15mohd]

he's definitely not better than those you listed...plus he's now peaking or on his way to peak, who knows. needs more time to truly measure him...he's pretty good, can leave it there

[Papaya Petee]

Prime LeBron- 30/9/7/1/1 50% FG Great Defense
Prime Wade- 30/8/5/2/1 49% FG Great Defense
Prime Kobe- 35/5/5/1/.5 45% FG Great Defense
Prime Durant- 32/8/6/1/1 50% FG Good Defense
Prime Dirk- 27/9/3/1/0 48% FG Average Defense
Prime Cp3- 23/11/6/3/0 50% FG Elite Defense

All those guys aside from Chris Paul have also either won Championships, Finals MVP, MVP or all 3. They've all also had incredible playoff runs better than Curry's this season so far. So no, Curry isn't better than any of those guys. Only one you can maybe argue is Chris Paul, and even then 07-08 Paul and 08-09 Paul are better.

Curry literally has no case over almost any Prime version of LeBron Wade or Kobe. Maybe this season he was comparable to some Dirk and Durant seasons.

Only player hes better than in that group you mentioned is Westbrook. And even then its close. Russell had an incredible season himself this year.

[theaussieguy]

The MVP is an inherently flawed awared, indeed so is the concept of being the 'best' at something. You can try to quantify it by stats but its never truly representative of the reality.

Steph Curry is my favourite player, but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together know that the true MVP is Lebron James. Its so obvious, regardless of his horrible shooting percentages, that he truly is the most valuable player because without him, as has been proving again and again, a team aint doing sh!t without him. Even if its simply a result of superstar treatment to himself and is team it is him without a doubt. Anyway all I am saying is that even tho Curry is the MVP doesn't mean we should all just assume he has this series on lock.

[G0ATbe]

Better than LeBron, Prime Kobe? Dirk? Wade? Durant?
Better than those 2 for sure.

[Fudge]

Good, but not great. Just happens to be the best player on the best and most stacked team in the league. That's honestly it.

Borderline top 5 player (likely around top 6-7), regardless if GSW wins it all or not.

[BlazerRed]

Not as good as any of those guys.

[iamgine]

Between Hodor and Michael Jordan.

[IGOTGAME]

Good, but not great. Just happens to be the best player on the best and most stacked team in the league. That's honestly it.

Borderline top 5 player (likely around top 6-7), regardless if GSW wins it all or not.
Bs. He is the second best point guard to ever play ball. Fact.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Bs. He is the second best point guard to ever play ball. Fact.

:roll:

**** outta here.

[ballin33]

Good, but not great. Just happens to be the best player on the best and most stacked team in the league. That's honestly it.

Borderline top 5 player (likely around top 6-7), regardless if GSW wins it all or not.

He's top 5.

1. Lbj
2. Durant
3. Davis
4. Steph
5. Harden

[Kingwillball]

He is a very good player not an all time great by any means has to sustain this level another 5+ seasons at least to be considered that..

[Rose'sACL]

Better than prime Reggie miller but also has a better team than Reggie ever had overall.

[Legends66NBA7]

Bs. He is the second best point guard to ever play ball. Fact.

On pace, if he wins the title and continues to have this type of production (along with the team success) in the future

[Mawly-G]

The hype train is out of control.
Indeed.

Curry is awesome, and when it's all said and done he probably will go down as the greatest shooter of all time, but the hype has been absolutely ridiculous this season.

[warriorfan]

Prime LeBron- 30/9/7/1/1 50% FG Great Defense
Prime Wade- 30/8/5/2/1 49% FG Great Defense
Prime Kobe- 35/5/5/1/.5 45% FG Great Defense
Prime Durant- 32/8/6/1/1 50% FG Good Defense
Prime Dirk- 27/9/3/1/0 48% FG Average Defense
Prime Cp3- 23/11/6/3/0 50% FG Elite Defense

All those guys aside from Chris Paul have also either won Championships, Finals MVP, MVP or all 3. They've all also had incredible playoff runs better than Curry's this season so far. So no, Curry isn't better than any of those guys. Only one you can maybe argue is Chris Paul, and even then 07-08 Paul and 08-09 Paul are better.

Curry literally has no case over almost any Prime version of LeBron Wade or Kobe. Maybe this season he was comparable to some Dirk and Durant seasons.

Only player hes better than in that group you mentioned is Westbrook. And even then its close. Russell had an incredible season himself this year.


Prime Wade, Kobe, and LeBron's defense are all massively overrated. All 3 of these guys are capable defenders but the problem is that they coast on the defensive end for large stretches throughout the game due to the offensive burden they carry. They will show up in some highlight reels making an extraordinary play or two due to their athleticism but it's a misconception to think that they are doing this the entire game.


Saying 08 Chris Paul is better is just false. As NBA history has repeated itself, pass first point guards that can't take over and score don't go far. Chris Paul has never made the conference finals. When your team needs a bucket desperately and your best player is a sub 6 foot pass first point guard...you're in trouble.

[Rose'sACL]

Prime Wade, Kobe, and LeBron's defense are all massively overrated. All 3 of these guys are capable defenders but the problem is that they coast on the defensive end for large stretches throughout the game due to the offensive burden they carry. They will show up in some highlight reels making an extraordinary play or two due to their athleticism but it's a misconception to think that they are doing this the entire game.


Saying 08 Chris Paul is better is just false. As NBA history has repeated itself, pass first point guards that can't take over and score don't go far. Chris Paul has never made the conference finals. When your team needs a bucket desperately and your best player is a sub 6 foot pass first point guard...you're in trouble.
Prime Kobe, wade and lebron might have coasted in regular season but they were elite defenders in playoffs. If curry is just given green light to only play defense, he'd still not be anywhere close to 2009-2013 playoff lebron.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Indeed.

Curry is awesome, and when it's all said and done he probably will go down as the greatest shooter of all time, but the hype has been absolutely ridiculous this season.

The only player listed in the first part of the OP that Curry might be better than is peak CP3. Mentioning Curry in the same breath as LeBron or prime Kobe is just ridiculous.

[aj1987]

Prime Wade, Kobe, and LeBron's defense are all massively overrated. All 3 of these guys are capable defenders but the problem is that they coast on the defensive end for large stretches throughout the game due to the offensive burden they carry. They will show up in some highlight reels making an extraordinary play or two due to their athleticism but it's a misconception to think that they are doing this the entire game.
Those three guys literally shut down players during the 4th Q's and 2nd halves in a ton of games. Curry can't do that. Not even close. Heck, those 3 won games because of their defense as well. Those three have been in the DPOY top 3 several times. If their offense isn't on point, they can shut down others. Curry can't do that either.

Put prime Kobe, Wade, or LeBron on this team in Curry's place and the team would be a historically good offensive and defensive team. They'd definitely win 72+.

[RRR3]

Are we seriously comparing Curry to prime LeBron, Kobe, Wade? :biggums:

[Mawly-G]

The only player listed in the first part of the OP that Curry might be better than is peak CP3. Mentioning Curry in the same breath as LeBron or prime Kobe is just ridiculous.
I mean, we've never seen a shooter like Steph Curry. His jumpshot is legendary, and his ball handling skills and court vision have improved tremendously this season. However, he just doesn't bring as much to the table as Lebron/MJ/Kobe and even Durant. Hell, I'd even say that pinheaded Westbrook might even have a case over Curry.

[warriorfan]

I mean, we've never seen a shooter like Steph Curry. His jumpshot is legendary, and his ball handling skills and court vision have improved tremendously this season. However, he just doesn't bring as much to the table as Lebron/MJ/Kobe and even Durant. Hell, I'd even say that pinheaded Westbrook might even have a case over Curry.


Jesus Christ

[Mawly-G]

Jesus Christ
How am I wrong though :confusedshrug:

Westbrook was out of his mind this year, putting up insane numbers.

[Heavincent]

Are we seriously comparing Curry to prime LeBron, Kobe, Wade? :biggums:

His numbers in this post season are comparable tbh.

[the_troof]

when steph curry does something average people think its something special

ooh he hit a wide open 3! GOAT shooter, GOAT point guard GOAT player

his team and system aids him in his success more than any "superstar" ever. a forced star if I've ever seen one

[the_troof]

Prime Wade, Kobe, and LeBron's defense are all massively overrated. All 3 of these guys are capable defenders but the problem is that they coast on the defensive end for large stretches throughout the game due to the offensive burden they carry. They will show up in some highlight reels making an extraordinary play or two due to their athleticism but it's a misconception to think that they are doing this the entire game.


Saying 08 Chris Paul is better is just false. As NBA history has repeated itself, pass first point guards that can't take over and score don't go far. Chris Paul has never made the conference finals. When your team needs a bucket desperately and your best player is a sub 6 foot pass first point guard...you're in trouble.
steph curry is hidden on defense every game he plays... he was guarding courtney and TA in the grizzlies series :facepalm: LeBron and kobe were never hidden on defense like he is

[Fudge]

He's top 5.

1. Lbj
2. Durant
3. Davis
4. Steph
5. Harden
Nah.

Durant
LeBron
Davis
Harden
Westbrook
CP3

I'd have him comfortably right behind CP3.

[RRR3]

His numbers in this post season are comparable tbh.
But is he as impactful as those guys?


And one playoff run doesn't mean he can compare to three legends (two of whom are frequently argued for top 10 all time or higher).

[warriorfan]

steph curry is hidden on defense every game he plays... he was guarding courtney and TA in the grizzlies series :facepalm: LeBron and kobe were never hidden on defense like he is


:biggums:


are you one of those idiots who don't watch games and thinks LeBron and Kobe always guard the best player for the entire game? :roll:

[IncarceratedBob]

Peak Curry will easily surpass peak Kobe, he's almost there already. He'll never reach peak LBJ. He's gonna do down as a top 15 all timer

[warriorfan]

His numbers in this post season are comparable tbh.

Yeah they are but these stans are way too insecure to let it sink in. They are instead falling back on making shit up like how LeBron, Wade, and Bryant are Tony Allen on defense or something. :oldlol:

[the_troof]

:biggums:


are you one of those idiots who don't watch games and thinks LeBron and Kobe always guard the best player for the entire game? :roll:
In the Celtics ECF in 2012 Bran was constantly on Rondo (i'm a celtics fan so I watched every minute of every game)
Thompson constantly guards the best perimeter player on whoever GS is playing.. Curry is a scrub

[dontgetchoked]

In the Celtics ECF in 2012 Bran was constantly on Rondo (i'm a celtics fan so I watched every minute of every game)
Thompson constantly guards the best perimeter player on whoever GS is playing.. Curry is a scrub

what the ****?

that scrub is better than anyone on your team or anyone who will play for your team for the forseeable future.

he's the greatest shooter of all time and the MVP and has a chance to win a finals mvp.

when was the last time a celtic had 40 pts in the playoffs?? ray allen vs the bulls? FOH with that BS

[the_troof]

what the ****?

that scrub is better than anyone on your team or anyone who will play for your team for the forseeable future.

he's the greatest shooter of all time and the MVP and has a chance to win a finals mvp.

when was the last time a celtic had 40 pts in the playoffs?? ray allen vs the bulls? FOH with that BS
Rondo had 44 against the Heat... stephen curry is a product of an extremely weak league. If it were 2006, he'd be in Ray Ray's category; a guy who's really good at shooting, average at everything else

[warriorfan]

In the Celtics ECF in 2012 Bran was constantly on Rondo (i'm a celtics fan so I watched every minute of every game)
Thompson constantly guards the best perimeter player on whoever GS is playing.. Curry is a scrub


Thanks for ethering yourself. Rondo is the easiest person to guard on the floor. His jump shot is so bad you can just sag off him and never get beat off the dribble or let him take a shitty shot.


You don't know shit about basketball and you suck at trolling, stop posting.

[dontgetchoked]

Rondo had 44 against the Heat... stephen curry is a product of an extremely weak league. If it were 2006, he'd be in Ray Ray's category; a guy who's really good at shooting, average at everything else
forgot about rondo, he was a great player, but not on currys level.

[the_troof]

Thanks for ethering yourself. Rondo is the easiest person to guard on the floor. His jump shot is so bad you can just sag off him and never get beat off the dribble or let him take a shitty shot.


You don't know shit about basketball and you suck at trolling, stop posting.
If he was the easiest person to guard on the floor why did he drop 44 on D Wae and then struggled to score against Bran?
I hate Bran and never have liked him, but even I can see that he is so much better then Stephen Carry'd its not even funny. Curry got clamped against TA and Conley and exploded as soon as TA went out with an injury. Stephen Curry, who plays with a team full of excellent 3pt shooters and excellent defenders, is probably the worst MVP in the history of the game. Rose and Nash have a case of being worse, but the fact that Curry plays with one of the most stacked teams in the history of the game and in one of the weakest eras, stays true. Only Warrior ******gers and casuals believe that Curry is special at anything aside from shooting wide open jumpers.

[the_troof]

forgot about rondo, he was a great player, but not on currys level.
2012 Playoff Rondo: 17/7/12 with 2.4 steals playing on a much worse team than Steph and against better competition (2012 Heat). Definitely was playing on the level Curry is right now, but not consistently

[Ca$H]

Peak Curry will easily surpass peak Kobe, he's almost there already. He'll never reach peak LBJ. He's gonna do down as a top 15 all timer

Curry will swap spots with Bran on the GOAT list after he beats him in the finals.

[houston]

dang dude just a 2x all-star sheesh in his 6th year in the NBA. He's really good

[diamenz]

i love curry's game - he's a threat from anywhere on the court. he has a great combination and balance of decision making, finesse and awareness. if you slip, he's gonna do something that hurts your team. i think he's gonna have some huge games in the finals. guy's a thrill to watch, for real.

[Jacks3]

Curry is on the same level as all those guys except for peak LeBron.

The disrespect he's getting in this thread is crazy.

Dude is putting up 30/7/5/2 in the post-season, is the GOAT shooter, and commands more defensive attention/has more ''gravity'' than any player in the league. Oh, and he's also a terrific passer/playmaker and ball-handler.

But somehow guys like prime Bryant and Wade were on another level. :oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

Curry is on the same level as all those guys except for peak LeBron.

The disrespect he's getting in this thread is crazy.

Dude is putting up 30/7/5/2 in the post-season, is the GOAT shooter, and commands more defensive attention/has more ''gravity'' than any player in the league. Oh, and he's also a terrific passer/playmaker and ball-handler.

But somehow guys like prime Bryant and Wade were on another level. :oldlol:
Kobe and Wade play a little thing called defense

[SugarHill]

His numbers in this post season are comparable tbh.
09 Lebron numbers are quite clearly better

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Thanks for ethering yourself. Rondo is the easiest person to guard on the floor. His jump shot is so bad you can just sag off him and never get beat off the dribble or let him take a shitty shot.


You don't know shit about basketball and you suck at trolling, stop posting.
You clearly have not watched the 2012 ECF, please either educate yourself or stop posting.

[IGOTGAME]

Curry is on the same level as all those guys except for peak LeBron.

The disrespect he's getting in this thread is crazy.

Dude is putting up 30/7/5/2 in the post-season, is the GOAT shooter, and commands more defensive attention/has more ''gravity'' than any player in the league. Oh, and he's also a terrific passer/playmaker and ball-handler.

But somehow guys like prime Bryant and Wade were on another level. :oldlol:

Seriously...guy is a GOAT candidate. People are just reluctant to get with the times. People actually think Curry isn't better than guys like Hakeem, Magic, Kobe....

[AussieBaller99]

Curry is having a fantastic playoff series so far, but I think we'll really find out how good he truly is during this finals series. Im hoping he dominates!

[sundizz]

Yeah, his post season is being severly underrated.

He is averaging about 29, 6.5, 5 on 46, 44, 82. That is easily as good as, better than, or close to any run by Kobe, Bron, Wade, etc. Amazing efficiency on high volume while still playing within a team concept. Would even be better if he played more mpg.

[AussieBaller99]

Also his per 36 stats during the regular are quite incredible! 26pts 9ass 5reb on 49, 44 and 91

[Dro]

The MVP is an inherently flawed awared, indeed so is the concept of being the 'best' at something. You can try to quantify it by stats but its never truly representative of the reality.

Steph Curry is my favourite player, but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together know that the true MVP is Lebron James. Its so obvious, regardless of his horrible shooting percentages, that he truly is the most valuable player because without him, as has been proving again and again, a team aint doing sh!t without him. Even if its simply a result of superstar treatment to himself and is team it is him without a doubt. Anyway all I am saying is that even tho Curry is the MVP doesn't mean we should all just assume he has this series on lock.
:applause:

[warriorfan]

You clearly have not watched the 2012 ECF, please either educate yourself or stop posting.


If the best example you guys can come up with of LeBron defending the best player the entire game is when he defended shitty Rajon Rondo while facing an over the hill Boston team then you just proved my point.

[Living Being]

The MVP is an inherently flawed awared, indeed so is the concept of being the 'best' at something. You can try to quantify it by stats but its never truly representative of the reality.

Steph Curry is my favourite player, but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together know that the true MVP is Lebron James. Its so obvious, regardless of his horrible shooting percentages, that he truly is the most valuable player because without him, as has been proving again and again, a team aint doing sh!t without him. Even if its simply a result of superstar treatment to himself and is team it is him without a doubt. Anyway all I am saying is that even tho Curry is the MVP doesn't mean we should all just assume he has this series on lock.
:facepalm

http://4tololo.ru/files/u7/jutkie-gifki-2.gif

[TheMilkyBarKid]

If the best example you guys can come up with of LeBron defending the best player the entire game is when he defended shitty Rajon Rondo while facing an over the hill Boston team then you just proved my point.
I did not come up with that example, but if you are referring to Rondo as shitty for that series then you clearly did not watch it.

There's a reason why prior to this post season some people judged Rondo separately to 'playoff Rondo'.