Is Godbe one of the most like-able superstar in NBA history?s

[CavaliersFTW]

He's got to be one of them, how can you not like such a crowd-pleasing hard playing, hard working fiery competitor? He's like this era's Jerry West/Elgin Baylor all tied into one.

http://creativefan.com/important/cf/2012/09/kobe-bryant-pictures/speak-kobe-bryant.jpg

The NBA will be have a huge void to fill the day he retires :(

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:oldlol:

[CavaliersFTW]

:oldlol:
You don't think so?

[ArbitraryWater]

:roll: :roll:

[Velocirap31]

Are you serious. Nah, good joke.

[red1]

beanbe is likeable as a player and as an individual. his legion of fanboys ie the beaners are the exact opposite. thats my 2

[24-Inch_Chrome]

You don't think so?

He's incredibly polarizing. I wouldn't call him likeable.

Even now, at the end of his career, he still draws significant positive and negative attention from his stans and haters, respectively. I can understand how the qualities you listed could be appealing but there's a negative aspect to his image as well; selfish, arrogant, chucker, etc. He also rapes.

I respect Kobe as a player largely for the positive qualities that you listed but his image is far from immaculate.

[Kvnzhangyay]

He's not likeable, but he is respectable

[Solefade]

he's not as polarizing as he used to be, anytime you talk about kobe even in the slightest of negative ways, all the fanboys will come out to try to shit on you

[JohnFreeman]

I dont hate Kobe, but his fans are normally short and wear their hats backwards

[CavaliersFTW]

Are you serious. Nah, good joke.
In a league of conniving untrustworthy superstars like:

Chris Paul
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Dwyane Wade

I think a guy who just appears to play the game with passion, intensity and hard work like Kobe Bryant is a breath of fresh air.

http://creoleindc.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5e0053ef0147e0179062970b-800wi

[red1]

In a league of conniving untrustworthy superstars like:

Chris Paul
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Dwyane Wade

I think a guy who just appears to play the game with passion, intensity and hard work like Kobe Bryant is a breath of fresh air.


whoah, easy now. wilt wishes he could be half the player that wade was

[ArbitraryWater]

In a league of conniving untrustworthy superstars like:

Chris Paul
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Dwyane Wade

I think a guy who just appears to play the game with passion, intensity and hard work like Kobe Bryant is a breath of fresh air.

http://creoleindc.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5e0053ef0147e0179062970b-800wi

how weird do you feel right now leaving LeBron off that list, though? You wanted to put him on there.. you know you did.

[JZ600]

Surprised noone posted the rape picture

[CavaliersFTW]

He's incredibly polarizing. I wouldn't call him likeable.

Even now, at the end of his career, he still draws significant positive and negative attention from his stans and haters, respectively. I can understand how the qualities you listed could be appealing but there's a negative aspect to his image as well; selfish, arrogant, chucker, etc. He also rapes.

I respect Kobe as a player largely for the positive qualities that you listed but his image is far from immaculate.
Hmmm well for some reason I interpret what others would call selfish as passionate. I mean, Jordan played with that edge too. Russell Westbrook right now plays with that edge he's probably the next closest player to Kobe heading into the next generation of players.

[Droid101]

Easily. I guess Nash and maybe Magic come close.

[Velocirap31]

The 2000's had a lot of likeable stars. Vince Carter, Duncan, AI (very popular, likeable?), Nash, Baron, Lebron, Wade, Tmac, Ray, Dirk, Webber. The rest were assholes.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Hmmm well for some reason I interpret what others would call selfish as passionate. I mean, Jordan played with that edge too. Russell Westbrook right now plays with that edge he's probably the next closest player to Kobe heading into the next generation of players.

I wasn't trying to say that I personally buy into all of the negative aspects attributed to Kobe, just saying that they exist (at least to some). He's likeable to some, unlikeable to others, both perspectives exist and have large groups that subscribe to them. I'm sticking with polarizing.

[G0ATbe]

His ridiculously good looks have always cancelled out his polarizing personality.

[BBallZen83]

Kobe is definitely a love/hate kind of guy. I used to hate him because when he first came into the league, he seemed to want to be Jordan so bad that it was just cringeworthy, and I grew up in the Jordan era, so I wasn't having any of it. He also took this "killer instinct" aspect of Jordan's to a retarded level at times, where he would literally shoot his team out of games. IMO, Jordan had the "killer instinct", but was a lot smarter of a player than Kobe and always knew how to play within the flow of a game. SO yeah, the game already had a Jordan.. It didn't need an imitation that never lived up.

That's why I prefer Bron now. He is his own player, plays the game in his own unique way, just like Magic, Bird, and Jordan were unique players when they came along.

That being said, I have really mellowed on Kobe alot as the years have gone on. Gotta respect what he has done whether you love or hate him.

[imdaman99]

Great thread OP :cheers: I always loved and respected Kobe's desire to win, which is one of the reasons Westbrook is my favorite player. He is the next generation's version of Kobe, alpha to the max :pimp:

[imnew09]

Gets MVP chants in different Arenas :bowdown: :bowdown: thats extremely rare nowadays

[lilteapot]

His likability took a huge jump in 2008 when he started to not give a **** in interviews and embraced his inner asshole.

[Lebron23]

His ridiculously good looks have always cancelled out his polarizing personality.


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[LakersDaBEst]

Most hated and loved player at the same time :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: GOAT

[iamgine]

godbe yes...chuckbe on the other hand...

[buddha]

His likability took a huge jump in 2008 when he started to not give a **** in interviews and embraced his inner asshole.

he never gave a shit in interviews.



has anyone had to overcome more adversity in their career?

this dude had to deal with a lazy-overweight shaq for many years

this dude had to deal with a poverty whore accuse him of rape with hopes of cashing in

this dude had to deal with playing on d-league level teams in the prime of his career as he stayed loyal to his city

this dude had to deal has had to deal with a rash on serious injuries robbing us of the last few years of his great career



if he somehow wins another championship he will truly go down as the GOAT. (unlikely though)

[zoom17]

he never gave a shit in interviews.



has anyone had to overcome more adversity in their career?

this dude had to deal with a lazy-overweight shaq for many years

this dude had to deal with a poverty whore accuse him of rape with hopes of cashing in

this dude had to deal with playing on d-league level teams in the prime of his career as he stayed loyal to his city

this dude had to deal has had to deal with a rash on serious injuries robbing us of the last few years of his great career



if he somehow wins another championship he will truly go down as the GOAT. (unlikely though)

:roll:

[Poetry]

Surprised noone posted the rape picture

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FyOW4CdBBUo/USKthSs-4jI/AAAAAAAAA4A/O2LY84bbH9c/s1600/kobeblock.gif

[greymatter]

His peers certainly didn't think much of him. Shaq and Karl Malone certainly hated his guts. But then again, Shaq is a dick who burned bridges everywhere he played and Karl ****s 13 y/o girls and disowns his illegitimate kids.

[AirFederer]

This.
Nowadays it's his fans that are the most annoying.



Kobe is definitely a love/hate kind of guy. I used to hate him because when he first came into the league, he seemed to want to be Jordan so bad that it was just cringeworthy, and I grew up in the Jordan era, so I wasn't having any of it. He also took this "killer instinct" aspect of Jordan's to a retarded level at times, where he would literally shoot his team out of games. IMO, Jordan had the "killer instinct", but was a lot smarter of a player than Kobe and always knew how to play within the flow of a game. SO yeah, the game already had a Jordan.. It didn't need an imitation that never lived up.

That's why I prefer Bron now. He is his own player, plays the game in his own unique way, just like Magic, Bird, and Jordan were unique players when they came along.

That being said, I have really mellowed on Kobe alot as the years have gone on. Gotta respect what he has done whether you love or hate him.

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe is definitely a love/hate kind of guy. I used to hate him because when he first came into the league, he seemed to want to be Jordan so bad that it was just cringeworthy, and I grew up in the Jordan era, so I wasn't having any of it. He also took this "killer instinct" aspect of Jordan's to a retarded level at times, where he would literally shoot his team out of games. IMO, Jordan had the "killer instinct", but was a lot smarter of a player than Kobe and always knew how to play within the flow of a game. SO yeah, the game already had a Jordan.. It didn't need an imitation that never lived up.

That's why I prefer Bron now. He is his own player, plays the game in his own unique way, just like Magic, Bird, and Jordan were unique players when they came along.

That being said, I have really mellowed on Kobe alot as the years have gone on. Gotta respect what he has done whether you love or hate him.

This is such a fallacy, Lebron is no more unique than Magic and Karl Malone.

And it's easy to like someone as fabricated as Lebron, everything he does and says is as calculated as his I'm coming home essay. Kobe has no filter and people hate it, doesn't mean he's not a great player.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Well, Kobe was not a asshole to fans like LeBron was.

[Ne 1]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FyOW4CdBBUo/USKthSs-4jI/AAAAAAAAA4A/O2LY84bbH9c/s1600/kobeblock.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV1wATe1sNs

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

His peers certainly didn't think much of him. Shaq and Karl Malone certainly hated his guts. But then again, Shaq is a dick who burned bridges everywhere he played and Karl ****s 13 y/o girls and disowns his illegitimate kids.
Karl Malone was a big brother to Kobe. He even was disgusted that the Jazz made fun of Kobe about the rape allegations and defended him. But then Karl hit on his wife. That's why Kobe was pissed at Karl.

[PickernRoller]

Surprised noone posted the rape picture

We're afraid of your well being.

[jstern]

It's hard to imagine any player as likable, since every superstar, even Jordan has so many haters.

But when it comes to the mainstream, I find that the more likeable players are guys like a Shaq, because his size just really appeals and sticks out to the casual people. Shaq is really likable in that sense.

Grant Hill was really likable to the mainstream.

[Fawker]

so what is it? is he likable to you or do you dislike his army? because either way the title has been addressed.

[Nick Young]

yes.

[BBallZen83]

This is such a fallacy, Lebron is no more unique than Magic and Karl Malone.

And it's easy to like someone as fabricated as Lebron, everything he does and says is as calculated as his I'm coming home essay. Kobe has no filter and people hate it, doesn't mean he's not a great player.

The way LeBron plays is unique actually. He is a Mish mash of a lot of different players and has a unique combination of size and athleticism that not a lot of nba players have hhad.

And I'm not disagreeing with you on the fabricated part. The decision was a blown out of proportion display, although ESPN did approach him about televising it. I'm also not looking at his return to Cleveland as some kind of altruistic cause that was only motivated by bring a championship to his city and righting wrongs, etc.. The grass was definitely looking pretty green up in Ohio with the recent draft picks.

He'll dude, he shit the bed in 2011 and was the major reason for the heat losing, and he has looked unsure in the past. I have noticed and it pissed me off. That being said, he looks more confident then ever this playoffs run, and I think his mental game is looking the strongest it ever has which I commend him for.

I'm not afraid to comment on his flaws. He has had plenty. I do however like his philosophy on basketball, and prefer his flavor to Kobe's.

[AussieBaller99]

Would love for Kobe to have a healthy final season. He truly deserves it!! Absolute champion!!

[triangleoffense]

way more likeable than lebron unfortunately.

Kobe and Lebron are definitely wired very differently.

I'd DEFINITELY would rather have Kobe as a teammate or someone in my bunker

[KNOW1EDGE]

I dont hate Kobe, but his fans are normally short and wear their hats backwards

This madd me lol

And no, Kobe is not one of the most likable superstars in nba history.

He has a rape scandal. He cheated on his wifeHe tried to force his way out of LA, then changed his mind. He has been called selfish and arrogant etc etc

Personally I respect his game, and think he is an intelligent and well-spoken human being.

[KelticForce1349]

Kobe is definitely a love/hate kind of guy. I used to hate him because when he first came into the league, he seemed to want to be Jordan so bad that it was just cringeworthy, and I grew up in the Jordan era, so I wasn't having any of it. He also took this "killer instinct" aspect of Jordan's to a retarded level at times, where he would literally shoot his team out of games. IMO, Jordan had the "killer instinct", but was a lot smarter of a player than Kobe and always knew how to play within the flow of a game. SO yeah, the game already had a Jordan.. It didn't need an imitation that never lived up.

That actually sums things up pretty well for myself. I thought he was extremely lucky to have Shaq and Phil around him, but he seemed to almost resent them as if they would steal his glory.

The Lakers are a team in the right place and they never fail to spend, spend, spend to get the best players. I always thought that Kobe would have had a very different career if he had played in smaller market.

[SexSymbol]

He's very likable to real men, considering he's an alpha dog with extra intensity and no bullshit, hard-working attitude. He's witty with his jokes and is a generous person of the court that seem like a cool guy to hang out with. He's very likable, but even for betas who don't like, he's at least respectable.
I think there isn't a human being on a planet that likes basketball and doesn't respect Kobe as a player, he's done too much and proven too much.

[riseagainst]

alphas like him. Betas hate him.

[BBallZen83]

alphas like him. Betas hate him.

Well that's a pretty simplistic argument, but yeah, I never cared for him so I'm a beta.... but I like Jordan... so I'm an alpha... but... Oh yeah, that's right. Any type of person can like any type of player for any reason... Hmm. I think I'll go with that, instead of the above ridiculously overused and simplistic analysis.

[SexSymbol]

Well that's a pretty simplistic argument, but yeah, I never cared for him so I'm a beta.... but I like Jordan... so I'm an alpha... but... Oh yeah, that's right. Any type of person can like any type of player for any reason... Hmm. I think I'll go with that, instead of the above ridiculously overused and simplistic analysis.
shut your potty mouth, beta.

[BBallZen83]

shut your potty mouth, beta.

Well... since I'm a beta, that really hurts my feelings. You being a real man should take it easier on us betas and realize that we will never live up to your alpha male dominate ways.

A real man like you has better things to do then to respond to a beta on a message board.

[riseagainst]

Well that's a pretty simplistic argument, but yeah, I never cared for him so I'm a beta.... but I like Jordan... so I'm an alpha... but... Oh yeah, that's right. Any type of person can like any type of player for any reason... Hmm. I think I'll go with that, instead of the above ridiculously overused and simplistic analysis.

this is so fcking cringeworthy. holy shiat.
:lol
:facepalm

[BBallZen83]

this is so fcking cringeworthy. holy shiat.
:lol
:facepalm

Well, you seem to be a simple man full of simple words. Could you express how it's cringeworthy? Or are short overused phrases like "alpha/beta" and emoji's all you got?

[SexSymbol]

Well... since I'm a beta, that really hurts my feelings. You being a real man should take it easier on us betas and realize that we will never live up to your alpha male dominate ways.

A real man like you has better things to do then to respond to a beta on a message board.
You're a cockless fapper, ringless husband, fingerless piano artist and a brain-less human being.

[Hey Yo]

This madd me lol

And no, Kobe is not one of the most likable superstars in nba history.

He has a rape scandal. He cheated on his wifeHe tried to force his way out of LA, then changed his mind. He has been called selfish and arrogant etc etc

Personally I respect his game, and think he is an intelligent and well-spoken human being.
You forgot to mention him almost breaking that old man's wrist at Church when he ripped his cell phone out of his hand.

[BBallZen83]

You're a cockless fapper, ringless husband, fingerless piano artist and a brain-less human being.

Alright brosef, my life is destroyed now because of your troll attacks on this message board.

But just so you know, people with an understanding of human pyschology and skills of analysis could tell that Kobe was deeply psychologically insecure and always attempting to prove things about himself to others instead of already having the security of knowing who he was and just focusing on winning as a team.

It's why he emulated Jordan, it's why he shot them out of the finals against the Pistons(to prove he was now the man and not Shaq). It's why he purposely tried to get triple doubles and be the "facilitator" because people said he was hogging the ball with the last super team they built. Instead of just doing his thing, he has needed to prove to people for validation.

Jordan knew who he was, and was always the dominant alpha male that you wish Kobe was.

[BBallZen83]

And blindly parroting this whole "alpha/beta" nonsense, and so sheepishly following other people around on this message board with the new overused phrases of the month, if you really think about it is a pretty "un-alpha" thing to do.

[SexSymbol]

Alright brosef, my life is destroyed now because of your troll attacks on this message board.

But just so you know, people with an understanding of human pyschology and skills of analysis could tell that Kobe was deeply psychologically insecure and always attempting to prove things about himself to others instead of already having the security of knowing who he was and just focusing on winning as a team.

It's why he emulated Jordan, it's why he shot them out of the finals against the Pistons(to prove he was now the man and not Shaq). It's why he purposely tried to get triple doubles and be the "facilitator" because people said he was hogging the ball with the last super team they built. Instead of just doing his thing, he has needed to prove to people for validation.

Jordan knew who he was, and was always the dominant alpha male that you wish Kobe was.

We got an english lit major here, carry on folks, nothing of value will be lost if you scroll past his posts.
Cringe-worthy material homie, step up you game.
beta cuck fakkit

[red1]

He's very likable to real men, considering he's an alpha dog with extra intensity and no bullshit, hard-working attitude. He's witty with his jokes and is a generous person of the court that seem like a cool guy to hang out with. He's very likable, but even for betas who don't like, he's at least respectable.
I think there isn't a human being on a planet that likes basketball and doesn't respect Kobe as a player, he's done too much and proven too much.
9 times out of 10 when someone talks about alpha or beta constantly they are ****ing **** IRL. Probably 10 times of 10 but Im generously giving you the benefit of the doubt.

[BBallZen83]

We got an english lit major here, carry on folks, nothing of value will be lost if you scroll past his posts.
Cringe-worthy material homie, step up you game.
beta cuck fakkit

So you are from Lithuania? Sad that you act like some American gangster tough guy douche.

....I guess we have exported this bullshit all over the world by now with reality TV and stuff.

Also I am an Electrical Engineer, who double majored in math. Not an english lit like you so eloquently put it. Still a beta nerd by your standards though. I didn't go to Kobe university and learn all about the Kobe system. I guess that's your expertise.

[BBallZen83]

SexSymbol, I am sure you graduated summa *** laude, with your area of emphasis being on beta vs. alpha dynamics.