View Full Version : How can the Warriors keep Draymond Green?
buddha
06-04-2015, 05:20 PM
without finding someone to take on a 15 million dollar contract for a player who sat on the bench all year?
Warriors are already at 83 million for next season. There's supposed to be a huge cap increase but even then if some team gives Draymond the max that would put the Warriors at 100 million and that's not counting luxury tax.
I mean someone might take on David Lee but that same team would also be able to offer that 15 mil to Draymond Green (who is the better, younger player) and steal him from the Warriors.
Rooster
06-04-2015, 05:24 PM
without finding someone to take on a 15 million dollar contract for a player who sat on the bench all year?
Warriors are already at 83 million for next season. There's supposed to be a huge cap increase but even then if some team gives Draymond the max that would put the Warriors at 100 million and that's not counting luxury tax.
I mean someone might take on David Lee but that same team would also be able to offer that 15 mil to Draymond Green (who is the better, younger player) and steal him from the Warriors.
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
Springsteen
06-04-2015, 05:26 PM
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
I don't think teams like Detroit would care at this point.
bdreason
06-04-2015, 05:30 PM
He's a RFA and we have his Bird Rights. That means we can ignore the cap to sign him and match any offer he gets.
Next question.
Real Men Wear Green
06-04-2015, 05:34 PM
If they win the Championship there's a good chance that they are profitable even paying the luxury tax. I don't know much about their fiscal picture but along with the cap raise it could be worth it.
Now I don't think Green is max caliber but if he's an integral part of a championship this year it would be hard to let him go.
Eric Cartman
06-04-2015, 05:43 PM
Let him go.
buddha
06-04-2015, 05:46 PM
He's a RFA and we have his Bird Rights. That means we can ignore the cap to sign him and match any offer he gets.
Next question.
do you think money just grows on trees? lmao
buddha
06-04-2015, 05:49 PM
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
lol stfu, he's the Warriors second best player.
greymatter
06-04-2015, 05:51 PM
Overrated.
Would rather let Iguodala have more minutes than pay 15+M a year for a guy who is a career 41% shooter, 68% from the FT line. The guy is a slightly better, more versatile Bruce Bowen. His talent/skill level will never amount to him being the best or second best player on a good team. His best role would be that 3rd or 4th option type of all-around utility guy.
But since it's becoming hip to overpay role players who would never come close to being the best or 2nd best player on a good team, (hi Tristan Thompson, Chandler Parsons, Tyson Chandler), I won't be surprised to see him get a big offer from a bad or mediocre team with salary cap space.
buddha
06-04-2015, 06:05 PM
Overrated.
Would rather let Iguodala have more minutes than pay 15+M a year for a guy who is a career 41% shooter, 68% from the FT line. The guy is a slightly better, more versatile Bruce Bowen. His talent/skill level will never amount to him being the best or second best player on a good team. His best role would be that 3rd or 4th option type of all-around utility guy.
But since it's becoming hip to overpay role players who would never come close to being the best or 2nd best player on a good team, (hi Tristan Thompson, Chandler Parsons, Tyson Chandler), I won't be surprised to see him get a big offer from a bad or mediocre team with salary cap space.
first team all defense, 14/11/5 with 1.7 steals 1.2 blocks in his first year starting during the playoffs is now a slightly better Bruce Bowen..
my ****ing god, the stupidity on this board, he's closer to Shawn Marion than Bowen.
"never come close to being the 2nd best player on a good team" lmao, he already is. ****ing retards on this board.
raiderfan19
06-04-2015, 06:19 PM
They are going to keep him and figure it out later.
Is he a true max guy in the lebron/kd/ad sense that he would be a max guy no matter where he went? No. But he's absolutely worth the max to golden state and that's all that matters because whether or not he'd actually be worth the max, someone else will offer it(Utah would be a really interesting fit for him for instance) and golden state can't let him go. Don't ruin a potential dynasty to save a few bucks.
SwishSquared
06-04-2015, 06:27 PM
If they do a trade where they package Barnes with Lee's expiring deal, I think they can find some takers honestly. Not sure they'd be willing to do that, though. I think Barnes is extension-eligible this summer, so maybe they find an extend-and-trade partner for him.
Personally, I pay the luxury tax to keep the team intact. I'd keep Barnes, if for nothing more than rotation continuity. He fits/knows their system well now. Lee can ride the bench next season once more.
ralph_i_el
06-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
Lol wut?
Rocketswin2013
06-04-2015, 06:32 PM
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
Green is a fat, reckless piece of shit, but you're underrating the **** out of him. He's at worst 3rd best defender in the NBA and can do it all offensively except spot-up from 25 feet.
bdreason
06-04-2015, 06:35 PM
do you think money just grows on trees? lmao
Lee's an expirer and will be traded. We can just give him away, since all he's doing is riding the bench anyways. Maybe we have to throw in a 2nd round pick to move him.
Same goes for Iggy. We'll move him before we move Draygod. Iggy will be hard to move because of his contract, but I'm sure we would be willing to use a pick to move him as well.
That's $25-30 million right there.
Crown&Coke
06-04-2015, 06:51 PM
D.Lee has one year left on his deal. So Dubs are only really going to be hurting cap wise for 1 year
The amount of success this team has had the past couple years, there is very little chance they let Green walk away without offering something to his liking.
kurple
06-04-2015, 07:04 PM
Better question is how will they be able to keep Barnes?
bobeticus
06-04-2015, 07:07 PM
Any team beside the Warriors that will overpay Green will regret it later. He's a role player who can thrive on certain system. He has no impact as far as wins and losses but he will help a team if their system fits his game.
This.
role players only thrive because of the system or a good great player with high basketball IQ... maybe Spurs or Hawks can get him... it's all about system...
bdreason
06-04-2015, 08:02 PM
Better question is how will they be able to keep Barnes?
We have another year before we have to worry about that. The real issue with Barnes is that we're going to have to try to extend Curry during the same off-season, and he's going to make a lot more than the ~$12m we're paying him now.
Again, trying to keep Barnes will come down to moving Iggy. Iggy will be an expiring contract the same year we have to re-sign Curry and Barnes, so we may see a similar situation we have now with Draygod and Lee. The team will bust the cap to re-sign Curry and Barnes, and then trade Iggy's expiring contract before the deadline.
Rooster
06-04-2015, 08:08 PM
lol stfu, he's the Warriors second best player.
:facepalm :facepalm
If he was the Warriors 2nd best player then the Warriors would have not be in the playoff.
Rooster
06-04-2015, 08:16 PM
Lol wut?
He's role player who's thriving on a system that utilize his game. If Warriors let him go because of luxury taxes then they might lose a very good piece but he will not make a big difference on most teams that will pick him up.
SwishSquared
06-04-2015, 11:06 PM
We have another year before we have to worry about that. The real issue with Barnes is that we're going to have to try to extend Curry during the same off-season, and he's going to make a lot more than the ~$12m we're paying him now.
Again, trying to keep Barnes will come down to moving Iggy. Iggy will be an expiring contract the same year we have to re-sign Curry and Barnes, so we may see a similar situation we have now with Draygod and Lee. The team will bust the cap to re-sign Curry and Barnes, and then trade Iggy's expiring contract before the deadline.Barnes, I think, is extension-eligible this summer. Pretty sure he hits RFA next offseason, assuming he isn't extended, and Iggy & Curry both expire in 2017.
I think there's very little chance Curry signs an extension before then. Some may be lockout optimists, but there's a good shot that in summer 2017 the player's union opts-out (or even the owners do this) of the current CBA to get a bigger piece of BRI. I think the cap is projected to be at least $100M in 2017 if there's no lockout. Curry's new deal, assuming at max, would pay him 30% of the cap, over 5 years. He can't sign an extension for that long. He may pull a LBJ and do shorter contracts, but he might be happy with a long mega-deal.
Lacob said they'll shell out funds to keep a title contender intact, but I wouldn't be shocked if a 3 or 4-team trade emerges where GSW trades Barnes & Lee while acquiring some sort of role player wing to fill in Barnes' spot.
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