Kobe also scored 44 vs Golden State this season

[Deuce Bigalow]

In 31 minutes https://youtu.be/1y-djvCdyN8

Boxscore http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201411160LAL.html

I give about a .333 chance Lebron does it again.

[Mr Feeny]

In 31 minutes https://youtu.be/1y-djvCdyN8

Boxscore http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201411160LAL.html

I give about a .333 chance Lebron does it again.

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:

[ImKobe]

higher TS% and ORTG as well

and it was more impressive considering he didn't have half the athleticism and played on a torn rotator cuff while having played 6 games in 18 months prior to this season.

and only 3 of his makes in that clip weren't jump shots and maybe a couple of them were uncontested

[NBASTATMAN]

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:


i THINK HIS FINALS HIGH WAS 42 VS ORLANDO...

[3ball]

44 PPG is about what I figured Kobe and certainly MJ would average on Klay Thompson, considering MJ averaged 36/6/7 vs. Clyde Drexler in 1992 Finals... and considering these were MJ's career averages against DPOY wing defenders, let alone Klay:

MJ vs. DPOY Sidney Moncrief (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=moncrsi01): 31.6 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Michael Cooper (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404): 35.1 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Alvin Robertson (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=roberal01): 34.7 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Gary Payton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=paytoga01): 30.5 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Dennis Rodman/Joe Dumars (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=rodmade01): 31.8 PPG


I think MJ and Kobe's averages vs. Klay in the Finals would depend on what their team's NEEDED.. For example, if the Bulls were in perpetual danger of getting overwhelmed by the Warrior's offense like they were in the 1993 Finals vs. Phoenix's juggernaut offense, MJ might need to get 41/9/6 again so the Bulls can keep up.

In the 1993 Finals, the Bulls PPG and ORTg was 106.7 and 113.0, which was EXACTLY the same as Phoenix, so the Bulls offense baaarely succeeded in keeping up.. Every ounce of MJ's 41/9/6 was needed.

Of course, in today's game, MJ would face fewer defenders on the strongside due to weakside floor-spreaders that draw defenders away (spacing).. So his numbers would be much higher.. Infact, since 1-defender strongsides are standard in the current era, the entire game would be based around this - MJ vs. 1-defender strongsides, as seen repeatedly in the Atlanta-Cavs series as well as Game 1 of the NBA Finals:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378398

[NBASTATMAN]

higher TS% and ORTG as well

and it was more impressive considering he didn't have half the athleticism and played on a torn rotator cuff while having played 6 games in 18 months prior to this season.

and only 3 of his makes in that clip weren't jump shots and maybe a couple of them were uncontested


KOBE IS ONE OF THE BEST REGULAR SEASON SCORERS EVER... WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ONCE HE MAKES THE FINALS... :roll:

[ImKobe]

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:

He didn't need to, and what is Lebron's record in the Finals when scoring 40 or more points vs Kobes? I'll wait.

Kobe scores 40 - team wins in a blowout

Lebron scores 42 (asterisk on the last basket) and his team loses with 0 points in overtime.

[ImKobe]

KOBE IS ONE OF THE BEST REGULAR SEASON SCORERS EVER... WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ONCE HE MAKES THE FINALS... :roll:

He wins 71% of the time?

No team ever let Kobe shoot wide open jump shots, not even when he's past his prime...

[24-Inch_Chrome]

GS - 136
LAL - 115

Colour me impressed.

[Velocirap31]

He was a -34

[ImKobe]

44 PPG is about what I figured Kobe and certainly MJ would average on Klay Thompson, considering MJ averaged 36/6/7 vs. Clyde Drexler in 1992 Finals... and considering these were MJ's career averages against DPOY wing defenders, let alone Klay:

MJ vs. DPOY Sidney Moncrief (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=moncrsi01): 31.6 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Michael Cooper (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404): 35.1 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Alvin Robertson (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=roberal01): 34.7 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Gary Payton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=paytoga01): 30.5 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Dennis Rodman/Joe Dumars (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=rodmade01): 31.8 PPG


I think MJ and Kobe's averages vs. Klay in the Finals would depend on what their team's NEEDED.. For example, if the Bulls were in perpetual danger of getting overwhelmed by the Warrior's offense like they were in the 1993 Finals vs. Phoenix's juggernaut offense, MJ might need to get 41/9/6 again so the Bulls can keep up.

In the 1993 Finals, the Bulls PPG and ORTg was 106.7 and 113.0, which was EXACTLY the same as Phoenix, so the Bulls offense baaarely succeeded in keeping up.. Every ounce of MJ's 41/9/6 was needed.

Of course, in today's game, MJ would face fewer defenders on the strongside due to weakside floor-spreaders that draw defenders away (spacing).. So his numbers would be much higher.. Infact, since 1-defender strongsides are standard in the current era, the entire game would be based around this - MJ vs. 1-defender strongsides, as seen repeatedly in the Atlanta-Cavs series as well as Game 1 of the NBA Finals:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378398

If the Warriors came out with the exact same game plan against those two guys, they'd both have a better, more efficient scoring series than Lebron.

35 yr old Kobe cooked Klay Thompson while coming back from two season-ending injuries and while playing with a torn rotator cuff, what makes anyone here think that a prime Kobe wouldn't drop 50-60 points when given 38 shots against those defenders :oldlol: we all saw what he did to prime Bowen, Battier, AK47, Ron Artest, Raja Bell, Marion, he had 40-50 point games against all of them :oldlol:, and they weren't sagging off him and daring him to shoot perimeter shots.

[ImKobe]

He was a -34

team game

look at the damn highlights at least, he was the only player that did anything the whole first half :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

If the Warriors came out with the exact same game plan against those two guys, they'd both have a better, more efficient scoring series than Lebron.

35 yr old Kobe cooked Klay Thompson while coming back from two season-ending injuries and while playing with a torn rotator cuff, what makes anyone here think that a prime Kobe wouldn't drop 50-60 points when given 38 shots against those defenders :oldlol: we all saw what he did to prime Bowen, Battier, AK47, Ron Artest, Raja Bell, Marion, he had 40-50 point games against all of them :oldlol:, and they weren't sagging off him and daring him to shoot perimeter shots.

I don't think it was torn until that dunk vs NO

[navy]

I don't think it was torn until that dunk vs NO
Kobe said he hurt it from passing...

[Eric Cartman]

Man, kobe and bran stans really can't agree on anything.

Even a 40+ heavy iso performance in a loss surrounded by scrubs against the same team.

[ImKobe]

I don't think it was torn until that dunk vs NO

it was reported that he had shoulder issues since pre-season, he was playing on it until it was completely torn.

[Droid101]

Damn, that crippled old man was giving them the business.

[NBASTATMAN]

He wins 71% of the time?

No team ever let Kobe shoot wide open jump shots, not even when he's past his prime...


SHIT IF I CARE.. MJ WON 100 PERCENT...

THEY SHOULD HAVE LET HIM SHOOT OPEN JUMPERS THIS YEAR HE WAS FREAKING HORRIBLE... :rockon:

[3ball]

SHIT IF I CARE.. MJ WON 100 PERCENT...

THEY SHOULD HAVE LET HIM SHOOT OPEN JUMPERS THIS YEAR HE WAS FREAKING HORRIBLE... :rockon:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvquD3ktNbQ

^^^^ MJ had 40 points on All-NBA Defensive Teamer Latrell Sprewell:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e90106f984e7634e00241d14004d0021.gif


44 vs. Warriors in 1990: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPBPA_X4ow
40 vs. Warriors in 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHp2ymEeVQ
49 vs. Warriors in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrbjnfXCfM

[catch24]

Saw that game during the regular-season. One of the worst "cheese" games I've seen from Kobe. :oldlol:

Guess your point stands, but yea, that was a chuck fest.

[Hey Yo]

He wins 71% of the time?

No team ever let Kobe shoot wide open jump shots, not even when he's past his prime...
Ummmmm...that's how he got to his first 3 Finals. The defense would collapse on Shaq and then he'd pass back out to a wide open Kobe.

Rinse and repeat.

[gyu]

34 shots in 31 mins, not including 16 ft's :applause:

[Hey Yo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvquD3ktNbQ

^^^^ MJ had 40 points on All-NBA Defensive Teamer Latrell Sprewell:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e90106f984e7634e00241d14004d0021.gif


44 vs. Warriors in 1990: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPBPA_X4ow
40 vs. Warriors in 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHp2ymEeVQ
49 vs. Warriors in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrbjnfXCfM
Comparing reg. season to the Finals???

dumb

[Geh]

44 PPG is about what I figured Kobe and certainly MJ would average on Klay Thompson, considering MJ averaged 36/6/7 vs. Clyde Drexler in 1992 Finals... and considering these were MJ's career averages against DPOY wing defenders, let alone Klay:

MJ vs. DPOY Sidney Moncrief (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=moncrsi01): 31.6 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Michael Cooper (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376404): 35.1 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Alvin Robertson (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=roberal01): 34.7 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Gary Payton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=paytoga01): 30.5 PPG
MJ vs. DPOY Dennis Rodman/Joe Dumars (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jordami01&p2=rodmade01): 31.8 PPG


I think MJ and Kobe's averages vs. Klay in the Finals would depend on what their team's NEEDED.. For example, if the Bulls were in perpetual danger of getting overwhelmed by the Warrior's offense like they were in the 1993 Finals vs. Phoenix's juggernaut offense, MJ might need to get 41/9/6 again so the Bulls can keep up.

In the 1993 Finals, the Bulls PPG and ORTg was 106.7 and 113.0, which was EXACTLY the same as Phoenix, so the Bulls offense baaarely succeeded in keeping up.. Every ounce of MJ's 41/9/6 was needed.

Of course, in today's game, MJ would face fewer defenders on the strongside due to weakside floor-spreaders that draw defenders away (spacing).. So his numbers would be much higher.. Infact, since 1-defender strongsides are standard in the current era, the entire game would be based around this - MJ vs. 1-defender strongsides, as seen repeatedly in the Atlanta-Cavs series as well as Game 1 of the NBA Finals:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378398
You da real MVP, and my favorite poster.

But seriously why are you always so insistent on making an apology for Jordan, tired of people forgetting how great the GOAT was?

[Droid101]

Ummmmm...that's how he got to his first 3 Finals. The defense would collapse on Shaq and then he'd pass back out to a wide open Kobe.

Rinse and repeat.
Spoken like a 15 year old who didn't watch.

Nobody EVER doubled off Kobe. They'd use the guy guarding Horry, Fox, Shaw, etc., to double down on Shaq.

What a clown.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:
Yeah I don't think Kobe was capable of topping 40

[Ne 1]

Ummmmm...that's how he got to his first 3 Finals. The defense would collapse on Shaq and then he'd pass back out to a wide open Kobe.

Rinse and repeat.
Kobe was always the primary facilitator/play maker on those championship teams. People like to say Shaq made the game easier for Kobe because he was getting double teamed. I find this hilarious because Kobe would also draw double teams too and made the game easier for Shaq as well. How many times have we seen highlights from that era of Kobe penetrating into the paint drawing a second defender then dropping the ball into Shaqs hands for an open power slam? People always brings this up as if Kobe was just getting spoon feed open shots. Teams weren't playing off of Kobe to double Shaq, the double teams came from the other positions more often than not. If anything, Kobe directly created for Shaq more with his penetration. Kobe's points didn't come easily, and he provided more than just scoring. Kobe was the best SG in the league ... you don't think defensive schemes weren't being drawn up to focus on the best perimeter scorer/player in the game back then? You don't think teams were worrying about Kobe? Do people really think that teams doubled off of Kobe Bryant off all players? Maybe if they got a rotation wrong and tried to help one pass away. Even in 2000, teams would much rather double off of guys like Ron Harper and AC Green.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Won't lie... that's impressive as hell. I don't even remember that game, I thought the Lakers beat GSW this season? That wasn't the game?

[Wade's Rings]

Won't lie... that's impressive as hell. I don't even remember that game, I thought the Lakers beat GSW this season? That wasn't the game?

Lakers beat GSW in a Game Kobe sat for rest.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Lakers beat GSW in a Game Kobe sat for rest.
:biggums:

[HOoopCityJones]

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:

Lebald stans can do nothing but lie now that Lebron is an inefficient chicker , even more so than Kobe. :roll:


60 pts on 38 shots my ass.

[Magic 32]

Shhh this is the finals we're talking about here. Mr 40%fg in the finals has never topped 40 points in any finals game and isn't capable of doing so:cheers:

Go to your room.

Come back in 11 months.

[Hey Yo]

Spoken like a 15 year old who didn't watch.

Nobody EVER doubled off Kobe. They'd use the guy guarding Horry, Fox, Shaw, etc., to double down on Shaq.

What a clown.
:oldlol: .....riiiiight

[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvquD3ktNbQ

^^^^ MJ had 40 points on All-NBA Defensive Teamer Latrell Sprewell:


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e90106f984e7634e00241d14004d0021.gif


44 vs. Warriors in 1990: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPBPA_X4ow
40 vs. Warriors in 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHp2ymEeVQ
49 vs. Warriors in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrbjnfXCfM




Comparing reg season to Finals? Dumb



My bad:


FINALS AVERAGES THRU 30 YRS OLD:

JORDAN: 36 PPG / 8 APG / 53% FG
LEBRON: 24 PPG / 6 APG / 46% FG


So there's a Finals comparison, just like you wanted.. Lebron needs 1.5 Finals games to match 1 from MJ (24 PPG to 36 PPG)

Remember, the MINUTE Jordan got a teammate remotely close to all-star caliber, he went 6/6... That's all it took for GOAT 6/6 - just one all-star teammate..

No other player has done so much with so little (6/6 with just prime Pippen).. i.e. Lebron gets prime Wade and Bosh yet loses to Dallas.. But don't be surprised the gap isn't small - you might no believe in 6/6 vs. 2/6, but the the eye test (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) should have let you know.
.

[Hey Yo]

My bad:


FINALS AVERAGES THRU 30 YRS OLD:

JORDAN: 36 PPG / 8 APG / 53% FG
LEBRON: 24 PPG / 6 APG / 46% FG


So there's a Finals comparison, just like you wanted.. Lebron needs 1.5 Finals games to match 1 from MJ (24 PPG to 36 PPG)

Remember, the MINUTE Jordan got a teammate remotely close to all-star caliber, he went 6/6... That's all it took for GOAT 6/6 - just one all-star teammate..

No other player has done so much with so little (6/6 with just prime Pippen).. i.e. Lebron gets prime Wade and Bosh yet loses to Dallas.. But don't be surprised the gap isn't small - you might no believe in 6/6 vs. 2/6, but the the eye test (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) should have let you know.
.
And after the minute Detroit and Boston got old and Stern started living in MJ's back pocket.


MJ had prime Pippen, great 3pt shooters and Phil, but got bounced in the 2nd round by an inexperienced Orlando team.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Spoken like a 15 year old who didn't watch.

Nobody EVER doubled off Kobe. They'd use the guy guarding Horry, Fox, Shaw, etc., to double down on Shaq.

What a clown.

exactly this

that kid has no idea what he's talking about

[Mr Feeny]

Lebald stans can do nothing but lie now that Lebron is an inefficient chicker , even more so than Kobe. :roll:


60 pts on 38 shots my ass.

Who is LeBald?
Who's lying?
Come back when Kobe gets more than 40 points in a finals game.

[Mr Feeny]

Come back in 11 months.

Come back when Kobe is capable of putting up more than 40 points in a finals game:cheers:

[buddha]

Damn, that crippled old man was giving them the business.

this came a week after Klay dropped 40 on Kobe. Old man had to remind him who had the big dick and low hanging balls.

[SexSymbol]

KOBE IS ONE OF THE BEST REGULAR SEASON SCORERS EVER... WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ONCE HE MAKES THE FINALS... :roll:
He usually wins, 71 percent of the time.
And Bron usually loses, 66 percent of the time.

[SwayDizzle]

Damn, that crippled old man was giving them the business.
this

[IMObjective]

Who is LeBald?
Who's lying?
Come back when Kobe gets more than 40 points in a finals game.
Dude, did you even read the other replies? You should research things before posting.