If LeBron Even Manages To get within 20 points of GS in one of these games

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He is the undisputed GOAT. This is the worst supporting cast going up against the most stacked team of all time.

[RedBlackAttack]

He is the undisputed GOAT. This is the worst supporting cast going up against the most stacked team of all time.
The hyperbole surrounding the Warriors is getting a little crazy. Last year's Spurs were a better team, imo.

[KiiiiNG]

The hyperbole surrounding the Warriors is getting a little crazy. Last year's Spurs were a better team, imo.
yes indeed they were. more experienced, hungrier, better coached, and about as hot as a team can possibly get.

[Jameerthefear]

No doubt. OP is completely 100% correct. If Lebron manages to win one game... well... let's just say even Jordan stans will be swapping sides.

[Alamо]

This is pretty pathetic

[imdaman99]

This is pretty pathetic
This

[Da Hammer]

The hyperbole surrounding the Warriors is getting a little crazy. Last year's Spurs were a better team, imo.
I mentioned yesterday that I really believe the Clipps did the Warriors a huge favor in beating the Spurs. Spurs are the only team in the league that I think beats the Warriors.

[Beastmode88]

2/6

Am i doing it right?

[r15mohd]

This team is pretty mediocre when Curry isn't playing well, so to that alone...they aren't the most stacked ever, and even with Curry they were very close to losing last night.

All the Cavs need was 1 of their intangibles to be even slightly better and the win is for the Cavs:

jr/Shump not having horrible shooting night
TT/Moz not going 1-11 on offensive rebound put backs
Lebron choosing a better shot than the step back three

[scm5]

Which supporting cast was better? 2006 Lakers or Game 2 and on 2015 Cavs?

Dellavedova - Smush (tie)
JR - Luke
TT - LO
Mozgov - Kwame

[Mr. Jabbar]

No excuses

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

No excuses. Even Hardon who isnt even a top10 player without 2 starters took a game
2/6

[RedBlackAttack]

This team is pretty mediocre when Curry isn't playing well, so to that alone...they aren't the most stacked ever, and even with Curry they were very close to losing last night.

All the Cavs need was 1 of their intangibles to be even slightly better and the win is for the Cavs:

jr/Shump not having horrible shooting night
TT/Moz not going 1-11 on offensive rebound put backs
Lebron choosing a better shot than the step back three
Right.

And, the Cavs were a decimated mess, even last night. Kyrie Irving put up 23/7/6/4/2 with 1 turnover while playing at maybe 80%.... LeBron scored 40+... And we were already without Kevin Love and Varejao while GS is 100% healthy.

And yet we were a shot that was right on line as time expired away from taking Game 1 in Oracle. I'm not saying the Warriors aren't a very good team... but holy sh!t people. Let's be reasonable.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

The hyperbole surrounding the Warriors is getting a little crazy. Last year's Spurs were a better team, imo.
10+ SRS for this warriors team. Best since the 90s bulls. 4 Legitimately arguable all-stars, MVP, MIP candidate, and 2 DPOY candidates. If this team were any more stacked it would tip over.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Which supporting cast was better? 2006 Lakers or Game 2 and on 2015 Cavs?

Dellavedova - Smush (tie)
JR - Luke
TT - LO
Mozgov - Kwame

Sorry. I don't speak 'first round exit'.

[warriorfan]

No excuses

[illmaticone]

LOL everyone needs to get off LeBron's dick. Hakeem won 2 games vs. the '86 Celtics, a team that would shit on this GSW team.

It's sad the narrative has been changed to if he even wins one game LOL. He and the Cavs are losing this series and that's all that matters.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

He is the undisputed GOAT. This is the worst supporting cast going up against the most stacked team of all time.

Canadian folks ain't that smart, eh?

[RedBlackAttack]

10+ SRS for this warriors team. Best since the 90s bulls. 4 Legitimately arguable all-stars, MVP, MIP candidate, and 2 DPOY candidates. If this team were any more stacked it would tip over.

If this team were more stacked, maybe they don't need overtime to win Game 1 at home against an already borderline decimated Cavs unit. :confusedshrug:

I'll stop there, because I really have nothing against the Warriors... but holy mother of god are they getting overrated in the grand scheme.

[SpecialQue]

People here pretending that the Cavs didn't almost win last night's game. Treating this like a blowout and shit. Y'all people are garbage.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Canadian folks ain't that smart, eh?

Average IQ:

Canada - 99
USA - 98

So basically if we took you out it would be a tie.

[illmaticone]

If this team were more stacked, maybe they don't need overtime to win Game 1 at home against an already borderline decimated Cavs unit. :confusedshrug:

I'll stop there, because I really have nothing against the Warriors.

I agree with RBA. The Warriors played bad in game 1, and I am of the opinion that even if the Cavs had a healthy Kyrie and Love, they would still lose this series. Nonetheless, I do not see this Warriors team as an all-time great team. Like someone said above, the 2014 Spurs were better than this GSW team.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

If this team were more stacked, maybe they don't need overtime to win Game 1 at home against an already borderline decimated Cavs unit. :confusedshrug:

I'll stop there, because I really have nothing against the Warriors... but holy mother of god are they getting overrated in the grand scheme.
It's not about looking at one game or even one series. it's about the season as a whole.

You telling me 2008 Celtics weren't a stacked/atg team because they were taken to 7 by a 38 win Hawk team?

[illmaticone]

It's not about looking at one game or even one series. it's about the season as a whole.

You telling me 2008 Celtics weren't a stacked/atg team because they were taken to 7 by a 38 win Hawk team?

2014 Spurs and 2008 Celtics > 2015 GSW.

[gts]

If this team were more stacked, maybe they don't need overtime to win Game 1 at home against an already borderline decimated Cavs unit. :confusedshrug:

I'll stop there, because I really have nothing against the Warriors... but holy mother of god are they getting overrated in the grand scheme.yep and it's Lebron fans, Cavs fans and bandwagon Lebrons fans that are doing it... :lol

typical lebron stan thing.... hawks are trash all year according to lebron fans, playoffs come around they're syddenly stacked and the cavs are injured despite the hawks actually having more injured players...lol

Just damage control so should the cavs lose...

fact is the warriors are good

Lebron is great, the supporting cast though injured isn't bad by any stretch and the same idiots today downplaying the Cavs roster are the same ones that were propping the roster up early in the season or when the changes were made

literaly you're like the only sane Cavs fan left around here

[RedBlackAttack]

It's not about looking at one game or even one series. it's about the season as a whole.

You telling me 2008 Celtics weren't a stacked/atg team because they were taken to 7 by a 38 win Hawk team?
I've watched every game they've played in these playoffs. I -- and most others -- thought the biggest threats to them were San Antonio and the Clippers were a pretty distant 2nd... they didn't play either of those teams. For the WC being so deep this year, playing New Orleans, a really banged up Memphis team and a one-dimension Houston squad isn't exactly the toughest road.

Now, they get to The Finals and the Cavs are down to their barest bones.

It isn't the Warriors fault. They've played the hand they've been dealt and played it well. I just don't see an all-time great team when I watch them play. Again, I thought last year's Spurs were better and I also think the Spurs may have beaten them this year if they had met.

Even when the Cavs were relatively healthy as the regular season wore down, I thought the Spurs were the best team in the league. I never feared the Warriors like I feared that team and nothing I've seen in the playoffs or last night has changed that.

But, they're almost certainly going to win the title and that means a lot. I'm happy for people in Oakland/SF (love that area of the country) and have nothing against them. I just don't think they're an all-time great. :confusedshrug:

[Bond007]

This is pretty pathetic

This

[Bond007]

I had GSW in 5 before the injury so could be a possible sweep.

[Droid101]

lol

Damage control meltdowns are getting insane today.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

yep and it's Lebron fans, Cavs fans and bandwagon Lebrons fans that are doing it... :lol

typical lebron stan thing.... hawks are trash all year according to lebron fans, playoffs come around they're syddenly stacked and the cavs are injured despite the hawks actually having more injured players...lol

Just damage control so should the cavs lose...

fact is the warriors are good

Lebron is great, the supporting cast though injured isn't bad by any stretch and the same idiots today downplaying the Cavs roster are the same ones that were propping the roster up early in the season or when the changes were made

literaly you're like the only sane Cavs fan left around here

I called the Warriors an ATG team mid-season and called them near championship locks. I can find the posts if you'd like.

[Beastmode88]

The stans always grief Kobe/MJ stans about being carried by another teammate. Let's see what Lebron James is made of.

[Soundwave]

http://iheartwallstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lowered-expectations.jpg

[TheMan]

The notion that the GWS are a historically stacked team on par with the 86 Celtics is laughable and embarrassing. It's being promoted by LeStans to cover their asses for obvious reasons. Yes they are good and deep but how many future HOFers do they even have? Curry has a great shot, who else? The 86 Celtics had FIVE legit HOFers (with Larry Bird, a top 5 GOAT playing in his prime), last year's Spurs had three, possibly four if KW blossoms into the player most think he will be.

OP needs to stick to hockey, clearly way in over his head here :coleman:

[TheMan]

I called the Warriors an ATG team mid-season and called them near championship locks. I can find the posts if you'd like.
You're an idiot :facepalm

[Straight_Ballin]

No doubt. OP is completely 100% correct. If Lebron manages to win one game... well... let's just say even Jordan stans will be swapping sides.

If Bron wins one game against a stacked finals team, he's proven that he is just as good as AI, who also did it. At the end of the day, Jordan stans are untouchable.

[catch24]

If Bron wins one game against a stacked finals team, he's proven that he is just as good as AI, who also did it. At the end of the day, Jordan stans are untouchable.

WTF? :oldlol: This forum never ceases to amaze.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Damage control...

[RoundMoundOfReb]

The notion that the GWS are a historically stacked team on par with the 86 Celtics is laughable and embarrassing. It's being promoted by LeStans to cover their asses for obvious reasons. Yes they are good and deep but how many future HOFers do they even have? Curry has a great shot, who else? The 86 Celtics had FIVE legit HOFers (with Larry Bird, a top 5 GOAT playing in his prime), last year's Spurs had three, possibly four if KW blossoms into the player most think he will be.

OP needs to stick to hockey, clearly way in over his head here :coleman:
So every team not as stacked as the '86 Celtics is not a stacked team? :oldlol:

So the 2004 Pistons weren't stacked? 2008 Celtics, not stacked?

And walton was a "Hofer" but he was far from prime with the Cs.

[Beastmode88]

So every team not as stacked as the '86 Celtics is not a stacked team? :oldlol:

So the 2004 Pistons weren't stacked? 2008 Celtics, not stacked?

And walton was a "Hofer" but he was far from prime with the Cs.

Why are u melting down? Cavs have the "best player" in the world. :rolleyes:

[Droid101]

Typical branstan meltdown. Move along people.

[Bond007]

Why are u melting down? Cavs have the "best player" in the world. :rolleyes:

Team

[scm5]

Sorry. I don't speak 'first round exit'.

Lakers were up 3-1.

I'm sure with a player equivalent to Kyrie or Love, let alone both would have allowed the Lakers to advance.

Just because you're being a dick about it, I'm gonna make a troll thread.

[J Shuttlesworth]

The proceeding events of this series will cause some chaos on ISH

LeBron is going be dropping 35-40 a game taking a ton of shots going out guns blazing. The Kobe stans will criticize him for it, but it's exactly what Kobe would do. Last year against the Spurs, the haters were saying he should be taking a ton of shots and disregarding efficiency... that's essentially what he's going to be doing and will get criticized for it. It will just confirm the narrative that no matter what he does, haters will hate.

[Bond007]

The proceeding events of this series will cause some chaos on ISH

LeBron is going be dropping 35-40 a game taking a ton of shots going out guns blazing. The Kobe stans will criticize him for it, but it's exactly what Kobe would do. Last year against the Spurs, the haters were saying he should be taking a ton of shots and disregarding efficiency... that's essentially what he's going to be doing and will get criticized for it. It will just confirm the narrative that no matter what he does, haters will hate.

yes he will be criticized. now perhaps you know why kobe would be gunning often specially from lack of tallent. lebron without kyrie has no choice. either way its a loss

[Legends66NBA7]

So every team not as stacked as the '86 Celtics is not a stacked team? :oldlol:

So the 2004 Pistons weren't stacked? 2008 Celtics, not stacked?

And walton was a "Hofer" but he was far from prime with the Cs.

04 Pistons weren't stacked, but top heavy. They didn't have much of a bench.

Walton won sixth man of the year for that team, while not in his prime, was still very good.

[Relinquish]

People here pretending that the Cavs didn't almost win last night's game. Treating this like a blowout and shit. Y'all people are garbage.

That was with Irving having 23, 7 and 6.

[houston]

15 warriors = 91 bulls

[Heavincent]

But, they're almost certainly going to win the title and that means a lot. I'm happy for people in Oakland/SF (love that area of the country) and have nothing against them. I just don't think they're an all-time great. :confusedshrug:

You're selling them short. If they win the title, pretty much every statistic out there supports them being an all time great team.

[Cold soul]

He is the undisputed GOAT. This is the worst supporting cast going up against the most stacked team of all time.

What? Last years Spurs are much better than this years Golden State team. I'm not sure why some people think Warriors are an all-time great team.

[Heavincent]

What? Last years Spurs are much better than this years Golden State team. I'm not sure why some people think Warriors are an all-time great team.

Because they have the #1 defense, #2 offense, and an all time great point differential.

Not the most stacked team of all time, but if they win the title, I'd put them in the top 10, if not top 5.

[jayfan]

The hyperbole surrounding the Warriors is getting a little crazy. Last year's Spurs were a better team, imo.

As is his hyperbole regarding the Cavs. They swept the Hawks without Kyrie.

[Cold soul]

Because they have the #1 defense, #2 offense, and an all time great point differential.

Not the most stacked team of all time, but if they win the title, I'd put them in the top 10, if not top 5.

Really? Crazy no way in hell I would even think this Warriors team even top 20 team. I've seen dozen teams better in my own lifetime the were much better overall.

[Heavincent]

Really? Crazy no way in hell I would even think this Warriors team even top 20 team. I've seen dozen teams better in my own lifetime the were much better overall.

They have the #1 defense, #2 offense, an all time great point differential though.

[Cold soul]

They have the #1 defense, #2 offense, an all time great point differential though.


Well okay then.

[Young X]

When/If the Warriors win they're definitely going down as an all time great team. They've completely dominated the league to the extent that very few teams ever have and they've done it while playing in the most competitive conference in league history.

They're statistically a top 10 team of all time.

- 10th highest SRS ever
- 8th highest Point differential ever
- #1 defense this season
- #2 offense this season

Ridiculously deep team and they have the MVP of the league who's had a hell of a season on top of it. I'd say they're at the same level as the '08 Celtics and Spurs last year.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Healthy Thunder would have beat them.

Hell even the one-man team Pels came close 2x to beat GSW.

They aren't the invincibles...some fans make them out to be

[1987_Lakers]

I think this years Warriors team and last years Spurs team are probably the best teams I have seen since the 2001 Lakers.

Historically I believe the Warriors will be looked as a greater team than the Spurs as the years go on. Spurs got hot at the right time, they dominated the finals, but lets not ignore how it took them 7 games to take out the Mavs and they went 2-2 against OKC in the WCF with Ibaka in the lineup.

The thing holding back Golden State from being in the discussion for best ever is they don't have that #2 superstar. Bird had McHale, Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Shaq had Kobe. Klay Thompson is a very good 2nd option and is a legit All-Star so no disrespect to Klay.

The reason why they should be in the discussion as one of the best teams ever, all you have to do is look how they dominated teams this season. People need to realize that no team dominated like this Warriors team since the MJ's Bulls. #2 offense, #1 defense, +10.1 point differential, 67-15 record, MVP on the team. 20 years from now people will look at those numbers and say they were all-time great.

They have 3 legit "elite" defenders on the team in Bogut, D. Green, & Iggy, the rest of the bunch are solid defenders and they also have the greatest shooting backcourt the NBA has ever seen and did I mention they feature a very deep bench? Isn't that good enough?

[SHAQisGOAT]

Because they have the #1 defense, #2 offense, and an all time great point differential.

Not the most stacked team of all time, but if they win the title, I'd put them in the top 10, if not top 5.

:biggums:

Top10 is already considerably more than reaching, top5 makes it seem like you're either on crack or don't know what you're talking about...

You're telling me that there's like only 5 teams in history that had a better year than this year's Warriors? You're telling me that not even more than 5 teams across history could beat the 2015 Warriors? :lol
:kobe:

'71 Bucks had the #1 offense, #1 defense, better record and margin of victory than the '15 Warriors... Then they wrecked shit up in the Playoffs vs tremendous competition.
'72 Lakers had the #1 offense, #2 defense, better record and MOV than this year's GSW... Terrifc into the Playoffs as well.
'96 Bulls had the 1st ranked offense and defense, better record and MOV than these Warriors.

Given the same "circumstances" for both teams, do you think these Warriors could beat the '86 Celtics, the '83 76ers, the '87 Lakers, the '67 76ers, the '01 Lakers, the '89 Pistons, the '08 Celtics and the '92 Bulls?
Just some teams that didn't have a top2 ranked offense+defense :rolleyes: Gimme a break...

Shit, how about some of them stacked Russell's Celtics, or even '73 Knicks... Hell, last year's Spurs... '85 Lakers were stacked like crazy.

Not saying that they're not a terrific team and even that they're not an all-time great team, or that they would've lost against every single one of the teams I've mentioned, but c'mon now...

[SHAQisGOAT]

I think this years Warriors team and last years Spurs team are probably the best teams I have seen since the 2001 Lakers.

Historically I believe the Warriors will be looked as a greater team than the Spurs as the years go on. Spurs got hot at the right time, they dominated the finals, but lets not ignore how it took them 7 games to take out the Mavs and they went 2-2 against OKC in the WCF with Ibaka in the lineup.

The thing holding back Golden State from being in the discussion for best ever is they don't have that #2 superstar. Bird had McHale, Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Shaq had Kobe. Klay Thompson is a very good 2nd option and is a legit All-Star so no disrespect to Klay.

The reason why they should be in the discussion as one of the best teams ever, all you have to do is look how they dominated teams this season. People need to realize that no team dominated like this Warriors team since the MJ's Bulls. #2 offense, #1 defense, +10.1 point differential, 67-15 record, MVP on the team. 20 years from now people will look at those numbers and say they were all-time great.

They have 3 legit "elite" defenders on the team in Bogut, D. Green, & Iggy, the rest of the bunch are solid defenders and they also have the greatest shooting backcourt the NBA has ever seen and did I mention they feature a very deep bench? Isn't that good enough?

You've mentioned that #2 superstar to some of those players but, with all due respect to Curry, when bringing up those names/teams talk about #1 option as well, because Steph's great but not as great as players like MJ, Bird, Shaq or Magic...

They're an amazing TEAM and all-time great (also plenty due to what they've "done") but not top10 ever like claimed here...

[plowking]

I think this years Warriors team and last years Spurs team are probably the best teams I have seen since the 2001 Lakers.



100% agree.

In terms of series' and seasons that I have watched, this Golden State team is as good as last years Spurs, and probably the best since that 3 peat Lakers team.

[1987_Lakers]

You've mentioned that #2 superstar to some of those players but, with all due respect to Curry, when bringing up those names/teams talk about #1 option as well, because Steph's great but not as great as players like MJ, Bird, Shaq or Magic...

Yes, you bring up a good point. Curry is a Superstar MVP and most likely a first ballot HOFer, but those guys you mentioned are top 10 players all-time, Curry will never reach that level. I don't for a second put this Warriors squad on par with the Lakers/Celtics of the 80's or the Bulls of the 90's. I think history will look at this Warriors team as a more explosive "Bad Boy" Pistons team.

Both these teams had the best backcourt in the NBA (Curry/Thompson & Isiah/Dumars). Both had the best defenses in the NBA and DPOY candidates (Green & Rodman). And both teams had elite benches.

[Twiens]

Last years Spurs would smoke this Warriors team in 5, maybe 6.

No excuses

[KG215]

10+ SRS for this warriors team. Best since the 90s bulls. 4 Legitimately arguable all-stars, MVP, MIP candidate, and 2 DPOY candidates. If this team were any more stacked it would tip over.
Yet I can name a handful of teams since 2000 alone I'd probably take over this year's Warriors: 2001 Lakers, 2007 Spurs, 2008 Celtics, 2012 Heat, and 2014 Spurs. Maybe the 2009 Lakers, too.

I'm just in the camp that I've never really watched this Warrior team and think this is an ATG team. I think they're really, really, really good, but ATG? Maybe their underwhelming path to the Finals is throwing me off. Something about them not having to play the Spurs, who I still think would've given them a hell of a series had they gotten past the Clippers, bugs me a little. They didn't really have to go through any of the "old guard" in the West this year. I know the Thunder don't necessarily, technically qualify here, but they have been the "other" biggest threat from the West the last 3-4 years but due to being impossibly decimated by injuries all season they didn't even make the playoffs and the Warriors avoided them -- sadly, had Durant and Ibaka gotten healthy in time, this was probably OKC's deepest and most balanced team ever.


Of course I still think the Warriors would've been rightfully favored in a series against the Spurs, Clippers, or Thunder. And had they knocked off one, two, or all three during their run it wouldn't have surprised me in the least. They are a damn good team and maybe (probably) their blah path to the Finals just left an unfair bad taste in my mouth.

[nzahir]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/where-this-years-cavs-rank-among-lebrons-nba-finals-supporting-casts/

This was with kyrie.....so probably the woat supporting finals cast; no exaggeration.

[PickernRoller]

#noexcuses

#2*/6

#NotTop10

[KG215]

I think this years Warriors team and last years Spurs team are probably the best teams I have seen since the 2001 Lakers.

Historically I believe the Warriors will be looked as a greater team than the Spurs as the years go on. Spurs got hot at the right time, they dominated the finals, but lets not ignore how it took them 7 games to take out the Mavs and they went 2-2 against OKC in the WCF with Ibaka in the lineup.

The thing holding back Golden State from being in the discussion for best ever is they don't have that #2 superstar. Bird had McHale, Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Shaq had Kobe. Klay Thompson is a very good 2nd option and is a legit All-Star so no disrespect to Klay.

The reason why they should be in the discussion as one of the best teams ever, all you have to do is look how they dominated teams this season. People need to realize that no team dominated like this Warriors team since the MJ's Bulls. #2 offense, #1 defense, +10.1 point differential, 67-15 record, MVP on the team. 20 years from now people will look at those numbers and say they were all-time great.

They have 3 legit "elite" defenders on the team in Bogut, D. Green, & Iggy, the rest of the bunch are solid defenders and they also have the greatest shooting backcourt the NBA has ever seen and did I mention they feature a very deep bench? Isn't that good enough?
The bold may be my biggest issue which really isn't fair on my part since I'm ignoring Golden State's insane depth and defensive versatility. Klay's a really, really good second option, kinda sorta on the cusp of being bonafide superstar, but something's still missing.

Watching these playoffs and it appears he's easier to take out of games than I thought he'd be. I know playoff defenses tighten up and their focus increases, but Klay is relatively easy to at least slow down and take out of games compared to his regular season impact. His off the bounce game is ok, but not very fluid, and he's not a very explosive athlete. I haven't seen him work form the mid and high post as much, either, as I did in the regular season and I seem to remember him being somewhat effective in that regard.

But he's still just 24 years old, so it's not like he's peaked or anything. If he continues improving at the rate he's improved the first few years of his career, then it's only a matter of time before the Warriors have that second bonafide superstar.

[Done_And_Done]

OP reaching to new low levels of pathetic.
Don't understand why you dudes even bother affording this kid the elaboration.