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LosBulls
06-05-2015, 08:54 PM
They're giving Lebron shots he doesn't usually make. If you noticed during the game, almost every play down the court they gave LeBron the ball on the left side and spread out in order to give LeBron Iso.

Almost every play down the court, LeBron was 1v1 on the left side against Iguodala,Barnes, or Green.

LeBron ultimately wanted to get to the cup or to draw the DT so he can kick it out to one of his 3 point shooters but the Warriors never bit, they trusted their defenders to guard him 1 on 1.

This resulted in LeBron taking a lot of mid range jumpers and turn around fades and he made a lot of them but everything was fine as long as the 3 point shooters were covered.

My question is, if the Warriors keep playing this type of defense on LeBron, will Lebron keep making those jumpers and fade aways?

We're not talking about Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Dirk, ect. We're talking about LeBron James.

Shooting isn't really his strong suit. With all the shooters on his team covered, he really needs to get aggressive and try to get to the rim on Iggy or Barnes.

I really think the Cavs played as well as they possibly could last game. LeBron was making his shots, Kyrie played really well while injured, Mozgov played well, and Tristan was dominating the boards like always.

People blame Shump and JR, but this is the first time in the entire playoffs that these guys have had coverage on them at all times, the Warriors are not going to leave the 3 pointer to double team LeBron in the post.

They're going to take their chances.

warriorfan
06-05-2015, 08:57 PM
LeBron's lack of reliable midrange game exposes himself once again. We have seen this for close to a decade now.

Bond007
06-05-2015, 08:58 PM
I expected this. worked to a T

LosBulls
06-05-2015, 08:59 PM
LeBron's lack of reliable midrange game exposes himself once again. We have seen this for close to a decade now.
Not yet :roll:

He shot the mid as best as he could last game and ended up with 44 points, and still lost.

If he doesn't shoot as well as he did, the game would of been a blow out lol.

I<3NBA
06-05-2015, 11:04 PM
Lebron needs to attack and get GSW into an early penalty every quarter. Only chance Cavs have.

pauk
06-05-2015, 11:11 PM
...or maybe, just maaaaaaybe, GSW is better and nothing Lebron or Jordan or Kobe could realistically do to win? :eek:

Nah, syke... Lebron needs to average 90 ppg and hit 100% FG, no excuses.... but he cant do that, hasnt "reliable shot" as Jordan / Kobe... hence yea... they lose/will lose because of Lebron...

KDthunderup
06-05-2015, 11:16 PM
Lebron ball is virtually their only option at this stage though. Kinda hard to lose two key starters and build a fluid offense with ball movement in a couple of days.

BuffaloBill
06-05-2015, 11:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ED9eTDm.png

pauk
06-05-2015, 11:19 PM
Lebron ball is virtually their only option at this stage though. Kinda hard to lose two key starters and build a fluid offense with ball movement in a couple of days.

Nah man! He is interrupting teh movement bro, need to post up Mozgov more so he can dominate like Shaq, let Shump/Smith create more like Jordan, let Dellavedova dominate like Isiah Thomas, they are that good maaaaaaaan..... Lebron to selfish, ballhog, dats why they lose! All dat talent around... but he doesnt use em..... pfffffft!

Done_And_Done
06-05-2015, 11:22 PM
Not yet :roll:

He shot the mid as best as he could last game and ended up with 44 points, and still lost.

If he doesn't shoot as well as he did, the game would of been a blow out lol.

This is what I was saying to my friends while watching the game. The Cavs are gunna need LeBron to come correct with his jumper (much the way he did in game 1) if they're going to have any chance at winning this thing. With Kyrie down and out, it's gunna be a high task.

He's a phenomenal player who can score in any way he pleases. But as we know, his shot from 15 feet out hasn't always served him well. If he goes cold, which I fully expect him to in spurts, the Cavs are doomed.

pauk
06-05-2015, 11:24 PM
Maybe everybody else needs to get injured so he is literally completely alone on the floor or replace those guys with Fans from the stands (wouldnt make much difference imo, the outcome of the game will be the same and Lebron will still get his)... maybe then you guys will be a bit more objective.... smh...

Droid101
06-05-2015, 11:36 PM
pauk melting down hard.

Look, LeBron wants to try to take everything one on one? Good luck.

Not sure why Blatt isn't having them run some plays, pick and rolls, back cuts, back screens, ANYTHING?

LeBron cannot win without someone to drive and kick it to, period.

JerrySeinfeld
06-06-2015, 12:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ED9eTDm.png

can you imagine if they tried this strat vs Kobe/Jordan/Durant?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

LosBulls
06-06-2015, 02:57 AM
Maybe everybody else needs to get injured so he is literally completely alone on the floor or replace those guys with Fans from the stands (wouldnt make much difference imo, the outcome of the game will be the same and Lebron will still get his)... maybe then you guys will be a bit more objective.... smh...
Lmfao pauk meltdown in full effect.

coin24
06-06-2015, 03:03 AM
Pauk meltdown:lol

Leshrivelled will go into stat protect mode once they start getting there shit pushed in midway through game 2. Series over

BlakFrankWhite
06-06-2015, 03:06 AM
Didn't spurs use similiar tactics like this last year?

SexSymbol
06-06-2015, 05:19 AM
...or maybe, just maaaaaaybe, GSW is better and nothing Lebron or Jordan or Kobe could realistically do to win? :eek:

Nah, syke... Lebron needs to average 90 ppg and hit 100% FG, no excuses.... but he cant do that, hasnt "reliable shot" as Jordan / Kobe... hence yea... they lose/will lose because of Lebron...
Prime Kobe is dropping 50 against this kind of defense and gameplan and getting a W.

Clifton
06-06-2015, 06:48 AM
He really doesn't have a dependable scoring move. Watch some clips of Jordan from the late '90s if you've forgotten. There were times during the regular season when he would simply shoot the exact same midrange fadeaway every time he got the ball and it would always go in. With Lebron that is just not the case. If you give him the same shot every time down the floor it would psych him out 60% of games.

Eric Cartman
06-06-2015, 07:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ED9eTDm.png
Kobe and MJ would kill in that baseline.

SwayDizzle
06-06-2015, 08:18 AM
Prime Kobe (06-10) would chew thru this defense. no exaggeration when i say he would average 40ppg easily. easy money

Optimus Prime
06-06-2015, 08:22 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ED9eTDm.png

:lebronamazed: :roll:

Prime Jordan and Kobe would tear up that kind of defense. LeBeta however has always relied on multiple All Stars and Hall of Famers to bail him out and make him look better since he can literally only play one way.

LeBeta Ball!

:kobe:

DMAVS41
06-06-2015, 08:24 AM
Prime Kobe (06-10) would chew thru this defense. no exaggeration when i say he would average 40ppg easily. easy money

Yea, but they would never play Kobe like that though. They'd play him in a more traditional way.

And 06 Kobe really struggled to dominate offensively against a much worse Suns team back at his peak in 06.

Without Kyrie...this Cavs team isn't all that much better than those 06 Lakers were. Better, but not a lot...Odom would easily now be the 2nd best player.

The Warriors play far better team defense than those Suns teams did and I think Iggy and Klay and Draymond are tougher matchups than Marion/Bell was on the Suns.

aburre21
06-06-2015, 08:25 AM
Prime Kobe (06-10) would chew thru this defense. no exaggeration when i say he would average 40ppg easily. easy money


Kobe has one 50 point playoff game in his entire career.Kobe has never averaged over 32 in a post season run yet we're supposed to believe he'd average 40? :roll:




Meanwhile the other guy averaged 35 over a post season run

aburre21
06-06-2015, 08:26 AM
People acting like Bron didn't put up 44 :lol. And GS still has defenders camping out in the lane in case of a drive

ZMonkey11
06-06-2015, 08:29 AM
I remember this one time when the Spurs dared him to shoot. He sucked for a couple of games then started hitting everything.

Will he keep missing? Probably not. But will he get tired out working over and over on isos, yes.

The strategy will work, but not from LeBron from missing everything, but from LeBron working his ass to the bone.

Hopper15
06-06-2015, 08:38 AM
he really needs to get aggressive and try to get to the rim on Iggy or Barnes.

This is where playing Thompson and Mozgov together hurts the Cavs spacing around LeBron.

IGOTGAME
06-06-2015, 09:29 AM
Yea, but they would never play Kobe like that though. They'd play him in a more traditional way.

And 06 Kobe really struggled to dominate offensively against a much worse Suns team back at his peak in 06.

Without Kyrie...this Cavs team isn't all that much better than those 06 Lakers were. Better, but not a lot...Odom would easily now be the 2nd best player.

The Warriors play far better team defense than those Suns teams did and I think Iggy and Klay and Draymond are tougher matchups than Marion/Bell was on the Suns.

Kobe choose not too in 2006 because it was the correct strategic move. You don't beat a dominant offensive team single handedly. Up until game 7 that was his best series of all time.

buddha
06-06-2015, 09:36 AM
Maybe everybody else needs to get injured so he is literally completely alone on the floor or replace those guys with Fans from the stands (wouldnt make much difference imo, the outcome of the game will be the same and Lebron will still get his)... maybe then you guys will be a bit more objective.... smh...

lmao

so do you admit the Hawks were a terrible team?

LoneyROY7
06-06-2015, 09:39 AM
pauk.

:oldlol:

sd3035
06-06-2015, 09:41 AM
Kobe, Jordan, or Durant would easily drop 50 on that defense

Asukal
06-06-2015, 10:04 AM
pauk meltdown saga continues.... :oldlol: :roll: :lol

LosBulls
06-06-2015, 10:08 AM
People bring up Kobe and Jordan.. but even Tracy McGrady would punish the Warriors for playing him like that :roll:

JerrySeinfeld
06-06-2015, 10:18 AM
People bring up Kobe and Jordan.. but even Tracy McGrady would punish the Warriors for playing him like that :roll:

Like others have been saying, he doesn't really have a go to move. The first ring he won his go to move for the whole playoffs was just to run recklessly into the paint and stiff arm people for FT's while sending them to the bench in foul trouble. The refs won't call that anymore so he's having very limited success in 1 on 1 situations as long as he's defended properly.

Nash
06-06-2015, 10:49 AM
first of all, didn't lebron just drop 44 on that defense? we acting like he score 10 points.

also, why exactly would that defense favor Kobe or any of those other guys ya'll just mentioned? because they would shot a useless fadeaway? cuz they sure as hell won't attack the rim better than bron

AirFederer
06-06-2015, 10:53 AM
It's a good plan. Better to give Bron a two, a difficult on, than an open three for JR etc.

DMAVS41
06-06-2015, 10:53 AM
Kobe choose not too in 2006 because it was the correct strategic move. You don't beat a dominant offensive team single handedly. Up until game 7 that was his best series of all time.

I completely disagree with this, but lets say I did.

Why then would Lebron try to beat these Warriors by himself? They are absolutely a dominant offensive team...and even worse...they are a dominant defensive team to go along with it.

A team considerably better than the 06 Suns and it's not remotely close.

Also, if it was a strategic move...why did Kobe try to beat them by himself in game 6...to use your words?

gts
06-06-2015, 10:54 AM
pauk melting down hard.

Look, LeBron wants to try to take everything one on one? Good luck.

Not sure why Blatt isn't having them run some plays, pick and rolls, back cuts, back screens, ANYTHING?

LeBron cannot win without someone to drive and kick it to, period.

because the Warriors won't let them

Warriors are sticking with their man on defense, they're not switching very much and they don't leave the 3 point line unguarded. once the ball is in Lebrons hands they're taking away all his options except scoring the ball himself

Kingwillball
06-06-2015, 10:56 AM
Lol at this thread Cavs should of won gm 1 they outplayed GS most of the way and had a couple bad calls against them that helped cost them the game. Lebron took bad shot for game winner otherwise he did what he wanted to. Also lebron is the smartest player In the league he will adapt and Cavs will figure ways to get other guys good looks.

Blue&Orange
06-06-2015, 11:01 AM
LeBron ultimately wanted to get to the cup or to draw the DT so he can kick it out to one of his 3 point shooters but the Warriors never bit, they trusted their defenders to guard him 1 on 1.

This resulted in LeBron taking a lot of mid range jumpers and turn around fades and he made a lot of them but everything was fine as long as the 3 point shooters were covered.

No, this resulted in 6 assists in 45 minutes, once again exposing LEbron for what he is, the biggest statpadder, cherry picker in the history of the NBA.

The cherry picking was already exposed, as predicted his FG% dropped like a rock. Now it's his playmaking ability that it's being exposed.

And that's why albeit amazing stats dude is going to be 2/6, because after Curry shook him in game 1 he disappear from the game.

This is the dude that faked cramps after air-balling against OKC in the finals, thank god Wade, Miller and Battier were there.

GOAT lol

Dro
06-06-2015, 11:02 AM
first of all, didn't lebron just drop 44 on that defense? we acting like he score 10 points.

also, why exactly would that defense favor Kobe or any of those other guys ya'll just mentioned? because they would shot a useless fadeaway? cuz they sure as hell won't attack the rim better than bron
You're crazy as hell..MJ is sure as hell attacking the rim better than Lebron, MJ may have had 3-4 dunks in that game if they're playing him like that...But we know there would be 2-3 guys camping in the lane waiting for MJ...Its like you guys have never seen MJ play...Seriously....

coin24
06-06-2015, 11:05 AM
You're crazy as hell..MJ is sure as hell attacking the rim better than Lebron, MJ may have had 3-4 dunks in that game if they're playing him like that...But we know there would be 2-3 guys camping in the lane waiting for MJ...Its like you guys have never seen MJ play...Seriously....


You're arguing with pauk. The blindest LeBald slurper in the world:lol

He couldn't care less the cavs are losing, he's glad bran is putting up points so he can argue later his finals ppg and blame no help:oldlol:
Incoming 2/6 meltdown

LosBulls
06-06-2015, 08:56 PM
You're arguing with pauk. The blindest LeBald slurper in the world:lol

He couldn't care less the cavs are losing, he's glad bran is putting up points so he can argue later his finals ppg and blame no help:oldlol:
Incoming 2/6 meltdown
This:roll: