Dare You To Shoot Defense: Lebron vs Kobe

[9erempiree]

Remember, when teams wanted to let Shaq get his and stop the others? That didn't work out too well for other teams as Kobe was destroying teams in the playoffs while Shaq got all the recognition.

Then when Kobe had Pau, they tried to let Kobe get his and he got his teammates involved for a 4th and 5th championship.

Spurs dared Lebron to shoot and even put a guy like Diaw on him and he was rendered useless. Warriors are doing the same thing and let him get his and once again, he chucks up shots like it is out of style.

First time in history, where a dare you to shoot defense is actually working.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Just stop Kobe stan.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Remember, when teams wanted to let Shaq get his and stop the others? That didn't work out too well for other teams as Kobe was destroying teams in the playoffs while Shaq got all the recognition.

Then when Kobe had Pau, they tried to let Kobe get his and he got his teammates involved for a 4th and 5th championship.

Spurs dared Lebron to shoot and even put a guy like Diaw on him and he was rendered useless. Warriors are doing the same thing and let him get his and once again, he chucks up shots like it is out of style.

First time in history, where a dare you to shoot defense is actually working.
LeBron won a championship with Popovich employing that method.

[9erempiree]

Actually, this has been done many times before except a superstar hasn't been exposed as much as Lebron has.

It is only game 1 and things can happen so I am basically making this evaluation based on game 1 and the past.

[DFish24]

LeBron won a championship with Popovich employing that method.

Ray*

[24-Inch_Chrome]

All that time typing out a paragraph and it's still Duncan > LeBron > Kobe.

[PickernRoller]

Ray*

Ray and the Spurs choking, at the ft-line and Manu as a hobbled old man. Dude is lucky he's not 1*/5.

[DetroitPistonFan]

LeBron will shoot up bricks. This year is the worst for him offensively even though shooting 45% isn't bad. But c'mon. From 56% down to 46%. That's a huge drop.

[aburre21]

Ray*

Lakers fans trying to talk shit about Bron cuz one of his teammates hit a clutch shot. Where would Kobe without Horry, DFish, etc.


Shit I remember on his last championship run Gasol and Artest was hitting game winners of Kobe's bricks :lol

[ZMonkey11]

Remember, when teams wanted to let Shaq get his and stop the others? That didn't work out too well for other teams as Kobe was destroying teams in the playoffs while Shaq got all the recognition.

Then when Kobe had Pau, they tried to let Kobe get his and he got his teammates involved for a 4th and 5th championship.

Spurs dared Lebron to shoot and even put a guy like Diaw on him and he was rendered useless. Warriors are doing the same thing and let him get his and once again, he chucks up shots like it is out of style.

First time in history, where a dare you to shoot defense is actually working.

Pistons 2004. They let Kobe shoot the Lakers in the foot after letting Shaq get his. Kobe lost his cool by not putting up shots and having Shaq get all the points, so as on cue, he starts popping off. TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS TEAM. Game. Set. Match. Thanks Kobe.

[CeltsGarlic]

I always wandered how I would deal with Ray Ray, KG, Peja and all the guys I used to love, becoming irrelevant and finally leaving the NBA.. I think I had tough time.. And now I see Kobe fans :lol completely different level. These guys cant handle 5 mins without propping up Kobe out of being desperate.

[Haymaker]

Remember, when teams wanted to let Shaq get his and stop the others? That didn't work out too well for other teams as Kobe was destroying teams in the playoffs while Shaq got all the recognition.

Then when Kobe had Pau, they tried to let Kobe get his and he got his teammates involved for a 4th and 5th championship.

Spurs dared Lebron to shoot and even put a guy like Diaw on him and he was rendered useless. Warriors are doing the same thing and let him get his and once again, he chucks up shots like it is out of style.

First time in history, where a dare you to shoot defense is actually working.


:roll:

[MP.Trey]

How about the double team defense? LeBron shred apart the Hawks when they were double teaming him with smart passes. Kobe would just chuck over two-three defenders and hope for the best.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Pistons 2004. They let Kobe shoot the Lakers in the foot after letting Shaq get his. Kobe lost his cool by not putting up shots and having Shaq get all the points, so as on cue, he starts popping off. TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS TEAM. Game. Set. Match. Thanks Kobe.

/thread.

I'm not sure but I think Kobe shot under 40% for the series?

[HOoopCityJones]

Pistons 2004. They let Kobe shoot the Lakers in the foot after letting Shaq get his. Kobe lost his cool by not putting up shots and having Shaq get all the points, so as on cue, he starts popping off. TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS TEAM. Game. Set. Match. Thanks Kobe.

Still don't change the fact he was being doubled by the likes of Prince and Rip Hamilton. (who's been playing Kobe since HS)

But by all means spin it how you want.

[CavaliersFTW]

:lol

[riseagainst]

:lol
:roll:

[HurricaneKid]

LeBron will shoot up bricks. This year is the worst for him offensively even though shooting 45% isn't bad. But c'mon. From 56% down to 46%. That's a huge drop.

Its a HUGE drop. Its a drop from LeBron almost all the way down to Kobe.

[Mike Armstrong]

/thread.

I'm not sure but I think Kobe shot under 40% for the series?
Yarp.

[riseagainst]

Its a HUGE drop. Its a drop from LeBron almost all the way down to Kobe.

or just less stat padding.

:confusedshrug:

[sd3035]

Well, we saw Lebald get single coverage and ref help all series, and he managed 39% shooting

He was shooting somewhere in the 20s outside of five feet, I guess we know the answer to this thread :lol

[Prime_Shaq]

Pistons 2004. They let Kobe shoot the Lakers in the foot after letting Shaq get his. Kobe lost his cool by not putting up shots and having Shaq get all the points, so as on cue, he starts popping off. TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS TEAM. Game. Set. Match. Thanks Kobe.
Please don't remind me :cry:

[Lebronxrings]

well lebron does average more points than kobe and has a higher fg%

[CavaliersFTW]

well lebron does average more points than kobe and has a higher fg%
What are their percentages when dare you to shoot defensive pressure is applied?

[riseagainst]

What are their percentages when dare you to shoot defensive pressure is applied?

lebron: 38%
Kobe: never has been dared. But still comes out on top.

:bowdown:

[Hey Yo]

Ray*
scored ZERO points in game 7

[HOoopCityJones]

All that time typing out a paragraph and it's still Duncan > LeBron > Kobe.

So cute how you always try to insert Duncan into Kobe vs Lebron discussions.

Let's just state the facts if Duncan is better than Lebron because of all time head to head record , then Kobe ****s Duncan in the ass deeper than his down low Boyfriend from Texas.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

So cute how you always try to insert Duncan into Kobe vs Lebron discussions.

Let's just state the facts if Duncan is better than Lebron because of all time head to head record , then Kobe ****s Duncan in the ass deeper than his down low Boyfriend from Texas.

5/3/2 > 5/2/1

5/6 > 5/7

Never having been carried to a ring > riding Shaq's coattails

:confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

5/3/2 > 5/2/1

5/6 > 5/7

Never having been carried to a ring > riding Shaq's coattails

:confusedshrug:

Manu, tony parker, and Kawhi say hi.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Manu, tony parker, and Kawhi say hi.

2000 Shaq > 2014 Kawhi, Porker, and Manu.

2014 Duncan > 2000 Kobe.

:confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

2000 Shaq > 2014 Kawhi, Porker, and Manu.

2014 Duncan > 2000 Kobe.

:confusedshrug:

but let's not say Duncan was never carried.
:lol

[Straight_Ballin]

but let's not say Duncan was never carried.
:lol

You expect a man to win in 3 different decades and do it all as being the man? :lol

[riseagainst]

You expect a man to win in 3 different decades and do it all as being the man? :lol

lol no. But his argument was, Kobe was carried once and Duncan was never carried, therefore Duncan > Kobe.

[plowking]

What are their percentages when dare you to shoot defensive pressure is applied?

I think it actually is fact that Lebron shoots better when contested than when left open to shoot.

Someone had stats from his Miami days and he was something like 44% from midrange when contested, and 42% when left open.