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J Shuttlesworth
06-06-2015, 02:45 AM
Just bored checking some shit on BBall ref and noticed Kobe went from 25% 3's (very low volume though) in 2002 to 38.3% in 03, which was his career high. The next year, he was down 32.7%. For his career, he was 33.4%

He also shot 40% in 03 in the playoffs. Any particular reason his 3 point shot peaked that year?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
06-06-2015, 02:47 AM
Vanessa was strokin that Mamba cawk at alltime great levels, gettin every bit of venom she could on her dirty self

Dave3
06-06-2015, 02:56 AM
That was the summer he added like 15 pounds of muscle or something (and started the season getting a bunch of triple doubles, presumably more rebounding from the added mass) so it's likely the extra strength helped his range.

NBAplayoffs2001
06-06-2015, 03:13 AM
To me that was peak Bryant. 30/7/6/2.2 steals

ImKobe
06-06-2015, 03:20 AM
Better shot selection?

Kobe's always been a decent 3pt shooter, but he doesn't shoot 3s like everybody else, he takes 3s that would be considered bad shots even for the likes of Curry, and they often come from situations where he has a few seconds left on the shot clock.

Also, that season he had 12 3s in a game, dropped some nice triple doubles, had 9 straight 40+ point games, dropped 42 on MJ's Wizards in one half and only 3 out of 12 times did he not drop 30 or more in the Playoffs.

The added muscle helped his game, but he played on a bum knee in the Playoffs and when you add Shaq being out of shape, you see why the 03 Spurs managed to end the Lakers' reign.

I wish Kobe played at that weight and approached the game the same way all his career as he did that season, IMO it was his best regular season in terms of all-around game. Averaging nearly 7 rebounds and 6 assists a game, over 2 steals a game, shooting the 3 consistently, triple-doubles, 37/7/5 on 51/37/95 shooting the last 4 games to make a strong push to the Playoffs.

Lakers were in danger of missing the Playoffs until they won 8 out of their last 10 to creep to 50 wins and they were a 5 seed. The team had like zero bench and their 3rd best player was Derek Fisher and Shaq missed 15 games + wasn't in the best shape in the games that he did play, they were bottom 10 in defense.

PickernRoller
06-06-2015, 03:29 AM
Better shot selection?

Kobe's always been a decent 3pt shooter, but he doesn't shoot 3s like everybody else, he takes 3s that would be considered bad shots even for the likes of Curry, and they often come from situations where he has a few seconds left on the shot clock.

Also, that season he had 12 3s in a game, dropped some nice triple doubles, had 9 straight 40+ point games, dropped 42 on MJ's Wizards in one half and only 3 out of 12 times did he not drop 30 or more in the Playoffs.

The added muscle helped his game, but he played on a bum knee in the Playoffs and when you add Shaq being out of shape, you see why the 03 Spurs managed to end the Lakers' reign.

I wish Kobe played at that weight and approached the game the same way all his career as he did that season, IMO it was his best regular season in terms of all-around game. Averaging nearly 7 rebounds and 6 assists a game, over 2 steals a game, shooting the 3 consistently, triple-doubles, 37/7/5 on 51/37/95 shooting the last 4 games to make a strong push to the Playoffs.

Lakers were in danger of missing the Playoffs until they won 8 out of their last 10 to creep to 50 wins and they were a 5 seed. The team had like zero bench and their 3rd best player was Derek Fisher and Shaq missed 15 games + wasn't in the best shape in the games that he did play, they were bottom 10 in defense.


Someone remembers.

J Shuttlesworth
06-06-2015, 03:30 AM
Better shot selection?

Kobe's always been a decent 3pt shooter, but he doesn't shoot 3s like everybody else, he takes 3s that would be considered bad shots even for the likes of Curry, and they often come from situations where he has a few seconds left on the shot clock.

Also, that season he had 12 3s in a game, dropped some nice triple doubles, had 9 straight 40+ point games, dropped 42 on MJ's Wizards in one half and only 3 out of 12 times did he not drop 30 or more in the Playoffs.

The added muscle helped his game, but he played on a bum knee in the Playoffs and when you add Shaq being out of shape, you see why the 03 Spurs managed to end the Lakers' reign.

I wish Kobe played at that weight and approached the game the same way all his career as he did that season, IMO it was his best regular season in terms of all-around game. Averaging nearly 7 rebounds and 6 assists a game, over 2 steals a game, shooting the 3 consistently, triple-doubles, 37/7/5 on 51/37/95 shooting the last 4 games to make a strong push to the Playoffs.

Lakers were in danger of missing the Playoffs until they won 8 out of their last 10 to creep to 50 wins and they were a 5 seed. The team had like zero bench and their 3rd best player was Derek Fisher and Shaq missed 15 games + wasn't in the best shape in the games that he did play, they were bottom 10 in defense.
So was he creating these looks on his own? Or taking them in rhythm? It's not an insanely high volume... four a game, but that's still impressive efficiency over 92 games

NBAplayoffs2001
06-06-2015, 03:31 AM
So was he creating these looks on his own? Or taking them in rhythm? It's not an insanely high volume... four a game, but that's still impressive efficiency over 92 games

Shaq was out and he had Derrick Fisher being the only other decent starter on the team. So yes, it was mostly just him.

The Iron Sheik
06-06-2015, 03:34 AM
like some posters mentioned, he added muscle (went up to about 220lbs, 15lbs more from his usual 205lbs.) it was really noticeable in how easily he could shoot 3's from long distance. before, he didn't have the "sway" in his jumper so a lot of his 3's were almost line drives because he couldn't get as much power behind his shots. but in 2003, he was easily able to shoot 25+ foot shots without sacrificing the arc on his shot. it was interesting how he was able to add muscle yet become even more explosive than prior seasons. it was definitely his peak season athletically, but i still think his best all around season was 2008, despite having better raw numbers in 2003.

ImKobe
06-06-2015, 03:48 AM
So was he creating these looks on his own? Or taking them in rhythm? It's not an insanely high volume... four a game, but that's still impressive efficiency over 92 games

Some he created on his own, but a lot obviously came from Shaq kicking the ball out and him just happening to be left open from deep, maybe it was just an abberation, like some of Jordan's and Lebron's 3pt shooting over their careers.

I mean, Lebron shot what, nearly 41% from deep one year? yet he's a career 34% shooter and he's been shooting under 20% in the Playoffs this year. Maybe it just was better shot selection and he had more luck on some of his shots.

He's always been a great jump shooter and we know how he sometimes just doesn't miss.

Bobcats2013
06-06-2015, 03:57 AM
bruh watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sZz0rtQJo

this was a testament to how good kobe was in 03

the bean was just then entering prime nugget

raprap
06-06-2015, 03:59 AM
Hgh

ImKobe
06-06-2015, 04:09 AM
bruh watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sZz0rtQJo

this was a testament to how good kobe was in 03

the bean was just then entering prime nugget


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUs0mB-X0yU

Kobe at his athletic peak http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png

JohnFreeman
06-06-2015, 04:10 AM
Because he is the second greatest shooting guard of all time and has a great work ethic

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
06-06-2015, 04:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUs0mB-X0yU

Kobe at his athletic peak http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png
who are u on thecoli battyboi

Legends66NBA7
06-06-2015, 10:57 AM
Ive read during the 2002 off season, along with adding more muscle, he was taking 1,000 3 pointers a game (don't think he did that again in any other off season) in practice for the upcoming season. Hence the more accurate percentage.

VengefulAngel
06-06-2015, 11:37 AM
Ive read during the 2002 off season, along with adding more muscle, he was taking 1,000 3 pointers a game (don't think he did that again in any other off season) in practice for the upcoming season. Hence the more accurate percentage.

Nice mistype :D. :lol

TheMarkMadsen
06-06-2015, 11:42 AM
If he didn't have a torn labrum for the entire playoffs we are talking 4peat

VengefulAngel
06-06-2015, 11:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gHwSBUgC5A

The Dunk. :bowdown:

http://i.imgur.com/uq5el0N.gif

I still have yet to see a dunk comparable to this.. probably the greatest pure skill dunk of all-time.

My favourite Kobe dunk also, the whole replay makes it look better than the gif though.

HOoopCityJones
06-06-2015, 12:06 PM
My favourite Kobe dunk also, the whole replay makes it look better than the gif though.

Yea, from the back angle in real time , this is still one of the most amazing in game dunks ever.

Optimus Prime
06-06-2015, 12:15 PM
In before, "Shaq carried him to a better 3 PT FG%!"

:kobe:

3ball
06-06-2015, 12:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LpKYaSn.gif


My favourite Kobe dunk also, the whole replay makes it look better than the gif though.


Meh, i think dunking over two guys on a 1-on-2 fastbreak is more impressive.

But regarding the 3-point percentage - MJ shot 38% in 1990 and 36% in 1993 on 3+ attempts both years..

He was experimenting with the shot those 2 years because he never attempted more than 1.5 any other season (from regular-distanced line)..

It's well-known that he didn't like the IDEA of the shot and didn't want to shoot 3-pointers, in fear it would take away from what was working so well - mid-range repertoire (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10861764&postcount=7) and rim attack (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353826)..

He said himself he didn't like 3-pointers because it took away from those areas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m11s

Young X
06-06-2015, 12:24 PM
2003 Kobe >>>>>>>>>

J Shuttlesworth
06-06-2015, 01:16 PM
Meh, i think dunking over two guys on a 1-on-2 fastbreak is more impressive.

But regarding the 3-point percentage - MJ shot 38% in 1990 and 36% in 1993 on 3+ attempts both years..

He was experimenting with the shot those 2 years because he never attempted more than 1.5 any other season (from regular-distanced line)..

It's well-known that he didn't like the IDEA of the shot and didn't want to shoot 3-pointers, in fear it would take away from what was working so well - mid-range repertoire (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10861764&postcount=7) and rim attack (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353826)..

He said himself he didn't like 3-pointers because it took away from those areas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m11s
Dude who ****ing cares? Is this thread about MJ? :biggums:

TheMarkMadsen
06-06-2015, 01:19 PM
Meh, i think dunking over two guys on a 1-on-2 fastbreak is more impressive.

But regarding the 3-point percentage - MJ shot 38% in 1990 and 36% in 1993 on 3+ attempts both years..

He was experimenting with the shot those 2 years because he never attempted more than 1.5 any other season (from regular-distanced line)..

It's well-known that he didn't like the IDEA of the shot and didn't want to shoot 3-pointers, in fear it would take away from what was working so well - mid-range repertoire (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10861764&postcount=7) and rim attack (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353826)..

He said himself he didn't like 3-pointers because it took away from those areas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m11s

literaly, like literally, nobody is talking about Jordan