View Full Version : Mozgov lane violations
Cleverness
06-07-2015, 01:58 AM
A lot of talk about a good travel call, but no talk about the obvious lane violations that aren't being called. If the refs called his last lane violation, score would have been 97-98... maybe Kyrie doesn't get injured and comes back for game 2?
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Will we see lane violations called in the future? It's a competitive advantage. There were about 15 of them from DeAndre Jordan in these playoffs that weren't called. I know for me personally it's easier to make FTs when I can walk over the FT line.
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Marchesk
06-07-2015, 02:20 AM
I don't understand the NBA's laxness when it comes to basic rules like travelling, palming, lane violations. Do other professional sports decide to semi-enforce the rules for basic violations? In tennis, when the ball hits the net on the serve or is an inch out, do the judges just let it go?
In the NFL, if a an offensive lineman moves a little before the snap or the QB throws the ball beyond the line, do they just ignore it 2/3 of the time?
Marchesk
06-07-2015, 02:22 AM
Follow up on that, I was watching some 10 year old try to hoop it up in the park, and he was imitating Kyrie but palming to an even greater degree. And so the next generation is going to be worse with this stuff.
ace23
06-07-2015, 02:43 AM
There's a lane violation on every free throw trip in the NBA. It's only called when it's egregious.
ace23
06-07-2015, 02:46 AM
Do other professional sports decide to semi-enforce the rules for basic violations? In tennis, when the ball hits the net on the serve or is an inch out, do the judges just let it go?
In the NFL, if a an offensive lineman moves a little before the snap or the QB throws the ball beyond the line, do they just ignore it 2/3 of the time?
No, no, and no.
The game has evolved to the point that you can call these things every other time up the court, so they just tend to let them go.
Cleverness
06-07-2015, 02:53 AM
There's a lane violation on every free throw trip in the NBA. It's only called when it's egregious.
Not really (unless you're referring to non-shooters). Mozgov's and DeAndre's are pretty much the only ones who have clearly done it so far in the playoffs. Everyone else follows the rules, as far as shooters go. I don't think Dwight even did it once in the entire 7 game series vs the Clippers.
I understand it's difficult to call everything... for example, out of bounds and block/charge calls are happening so quickly that they can go either way.
But this is a dead ball situation and it's definitely a competitive advantage. Sure, someone may step over the 3-pt line a little bit early, but that's not really an advantage... guys are fighting for position, sure, but stepping over the line isn't causing the shot to go in/out, while stepping over the FT line to shoot is a really big advantage. I shoot about 85% from the FT line if I can step over the line like DeAndre, but only about 70-75% if I can't. I'm sure others here can relate to that.
Marchesk
06-07-2015, 03:00 AM
The game has evolved to the point that you can call these things every other time up the court, so they just tend to let them go.
And where does it lead? They younger generation imitating the pros take a step further. And eventually, the rules will be relaxed even more.
ace23
06-07-2015, 03:07 AM
Not really (unless you're referring to non-shooters).
I am, didn't really read the OP. Yeah
bdreason
06-07-2015, 03:29 AM
Just remove rebounding on FT's from the game. The only time the offensive team gets the rebound is when they foul or commit lane violations anyways.
If I guy gets fouled, give him only 1 FT, then it's the other teams ball. Make that 1 FT worth 1, 2, or 3 points, depending on when the player was fouled.
Sarcastic
06-07-2015, 04:52 AM
Just remove rebounding on FT's from the game. The only time the offensive team gets the rebound is when they foul or commit lane violations anyways.
You don't actually believe this do you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ziQNSETe4
Marchesk
06-07-2015, 05:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ziQNSETe4
Was thinking exactly of that play when I read the previous post.
JimmyMcAdocious
06-07-2015, 05:25 AM
Surprised more teams don't try that when you need a missed ft+putback (end game situations). I get people will be more focused to box out then, but it seems like in those situations it's heavily focused on trying to get a tip back more than anything.
ZenMaster
06-07-2015, 10:02 AM
No, no, and no.
The game has evolved to the point that you can call these things every other time up the court, so they just tend to let them go.
The reason the game has evolved to that point is that refs lets the calls go, players will do what the refs do/don't let them.
smoovegittar
06-07-2015, 01:14 PM
It's that grey area where refs get involved. Not a fan.
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