Real Madrid would beat this Cavs team

[jamal99]

Seriously tho.

A lot of you are trolling about Euroleague, but this stuff we watched tonight isn't basketball.

Ball movement is non-existant, Lebron just takes the ball and tries to score or make an assist every single time.

FG percentage is like 32%. Awful freaking basketball...

[kNicKz]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Jenny_Wildcat/Oh%20Crap%20gifs/simpsons.gif

[Sportal]

You're an idiot. This Cavs team without LeBron would have no trouble dispatching Real Madrid. They wouldnt be able to stop a team of Dellavedova, Iman, JR, TT and Mozgov...

[Euroleague]

You're an idiot. This Cavs team without LeBron would have no trouble dispatching Real Madrid. They wouldnt be able to stop a team of Dellavedova, Iman, JR, TT and Mozgov...

Every one of those players would be at best somewhere around an 8-10 man in any top level Euroleague team. Actually, I don't think Shumpert could even make the main rotation of any top level Euroleague team.

You are seriously delusional.

[sd3035]

isn't the Euroleague where players who get cut from the NBA go to become superstars?

[Kingwillball]

Every one of those players would be at best somewhere around an 8-10 man in any top level Euroleague team. Actually, I don't think Shumpert could even make the main rotation of any top level Euroleague team.

You are seriously delusional.

TT might be the best offensive rebounder in the WORLD and he is gonna be a 10th man on some soft as cotton euro team. You are the one who is dillusional. Jr smith would be the best 6th man on any euro team and shump one of the best perimeter defenders anywhere.

[LAZERUSS]

isn't the Euroleague where players who get cut from the NBA go to become superstars?

It's where 42 year olds like McAdoo, who were washed up 10 years prior, go on to dominate and win FMVPs.

[Euroleague]

TT might be the best offensive rebounder in the WORLD and he is gonna be a 10th man on some soft as cotton euro team. You are the one who is dillusional. Jr smith would be the best 6th man on any euro team and shump one of the best perimeter defenders anywhere.

There are all kinds of players like Thompson in Euroleague. Players just like him, only a hell of a lot more athletic and much better at defense. Actually, in Real Madrid for example, he would probably not even see the court hardly ever.

Shumpert would be lucky to even sniff the rotation of any good Euroleague team.

Saying Smith would be the best 6th man in Euroleague is absolutely freaking ridiculous. And that is just straight out crazy.

You are an absolute moron of epic proportions.

And Dellavedova is basically a poor man's version of Vangelis Mantzaris. And Mantzaris is just considered as a decent guard in a good team.

It is these kinds of threads that truly expose the level of absurdity of NBA only fans.

[Euroleague]

It's where 42 year olds like McAdoo, who were washed up 10 years prior, go on to dominate and win FMVPs.

You have always trolled and lied about Euroleague, but now you are entering into the area of exposing yourself as being just another psychopath. Check yourself right now, or risk being put into the same category as the rest of the forum's lunatics.

[LAZERUSS]

You have always trolled and lied about Euroleague, but now you are entering into the area of exposing yourself as being just another psychopath. Check yourself right now, or risk being put into the same category as the rest of the forum's lunatics.

I already have my own category on this forum.

[Euroleague]

I already have my own category on this forum.

The last post you made about Euroleague was absolutely ridiculous. Every time you post about European basketball or the Euroleague you say something that is completely absurd.

I am just going to put you into the lying POS scumbag category from now on then.

As far as I am concerned, nothing you say in this forum on anything or about anything can be trusted, nor believed. Not with the amount of lying you do.

[LikeABosh]

Lebron would average 60/15/15 vs them

[alenleomessi]

Only Rudy could make an NBA team.. Ayon was worse than Antic last season.. Nocioni still playing :roll:

they would get massacred by a lineup of Dellavedova-Miller-Jones-Marion-Perkins

[Euroleague]

Also, just to clarify, I'm not agreeing with this thread, which states "would beat".

I think Real Madrid could beat them though. In a 7 game series (since for whatever reason NBA only fans believe that is the only thing in the Universe that judges anything, which is more proof of how retarded NBA only fans are)...

put it on a neutral court and I just think Real Madrid COULD beat them, not "would" beat them.

Real Madrid is overrated because they won the Euroleague this year basically because they got to play the Euroleague final four on their home court, which is not how that is supposed to work, as it is supposed to be played at a neutral site every year.

If it was a neutral site, they would not have won. So people kind of overrate their level to begin with.

I just think they are good enough to compete with the Cavs, who in all honesty to any objective person with any basketball knowledge at all, are nothing special in any way.

Certainly you could put the Cavs in the Euroleague, and in no way in hell would they be considered the best team.

But to say for sure Real would beat them I don't agree on it, because Real is a soft team and they are chokers. They are just the kind of team that while definitely being more talented and better and deeper than the Cavs, might not completely finish it mentally even against someone like Lebron, who is not a killer mentally himself.

But all the NBA only fans pretending here that some average role players from the Cavs would be some elite or even dominant players in Eurolague - you are just downright crazy.

[LAZERUSS]

The last post you made about Euroleague was absolutely ridiculous. Every time you post about European basketball or the Euroleague you say something that is completely absurd.

I am just going to put you into the lying POS scumbag category from now on then.

As far as I am concerned, nothing you say in this forum on anything or about anything can be trusted, nor believed. Not with the amount of lying you do.

Not that I really give a damn about a two-bit backwoods league like the Euroleague, but...

http://www.euroleague.net/features/voices/2011-2012/vladimir-stankovic/i/93850/bob-mcadoo-the-nba-and-european-champ

[QUOTE]After the Braves, McAdoo joined the New York Knicks from 1976 to 1979 and later played for the Boston Celtics (1979), Detroit Pistons (1979-1981), New Jersey Nets (1981), Los Angeles Lakers (1981-1985) and Philadelphia 76ers (1986). With the Lakers he was part of the great team formed by Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and James Worthy. Together, they won NBA championships in 1982 and 1985. His brilliant career in the NBA came to an end with 18,887 points (22.1 ppg.), 8,048 rebounds (8.4 rpg.) and 1,147 blocks (1.5 bpg.).

When, in the summer of 1986, McAdoo signed for a Tracer Milano, which was then coached by Dan Peterson, he was almost 35 years old and many doubted his ability to play at a high level. The start of the European season confirmed the doubts. On October 30, 1986, Tracer lost in Thessaloniki to Aris by 31 points, 98-67. Nikos Galis destroyed the team with 44 points. Aris already led 60-34 at the halftime break. In the return game, played November 6 in Milan, one of the biggest comebacks in European competition ever took place. Tracer won 83-49. After a quiet first half, McAdoo led his team with 21 points and 9 rebounds. After the game, McAdoo admitted to his coach that it had been the most intense game of his career.

Second youth in Italy

Bob McAdoo After the miracle, Tracer Milano marched towards the European final... and won it! The rival in the final played on April 2, 1987, in Lausanne, Switzerland was Maccabi Tel Aviv. Tracer won 71-69 and McAdoo was the second-best scorer on his team (21 points) after Roberto Premier (23) and the best rebounder with 9 boards. The team from Milan was European champ again after 21 years.

The following year, with Franco Casalini as boss, Tracer repeated the victory in the first Final Four of the modern era (two experimental ones had taken place before in 1966 in Bologna and 1967 in Madrid). After a round-robin phase with eight teams, Partizan of Vlade Divac, Sasha Djordjevic, Zarko Paspalj and Zeljko Obradovic reached the Final Four in Ghent as leader with 10 wins and 4 losses. Galis and Panagiotis Gianakis took Aris to 9-5 to finish second and Tracer Milano - with Mike D'Antoni, Dino Meneghin, Ricky Brown, Premier and McAdoo - was third also at 9-5. Maccabi finished fourth with an 8-6 record led by Miki Berkowitz, Doron Jamchy, Kevin Magee and Ken Barlow. In the semifinals, Maccabi defeated Partizan 97-82 and Tracer defeated Aris by the same score. In the big final, a brilliant McAdoo (25 points, 12 rebounds) led Tracer to another win over Maccabi.

McAdoo played in Milan until 1990. The two following years he played in Forli with averages of 31.7 points and 9.6 rebounds. He put an end to his career in Teamsystem Fabriano in 1992-93 at 42 years old. [B]Over seven seasons in Italy, he played 201 games, scored 5,427 points (27.3 ppg.) and averaged 9.0 boards per game. He won the Italian League twice, the Italian Cup once and one Intercontinental cup

[LikeABosh]

Who can forget one of Lebron's former teammates from his first stint in Cleveland :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GaxYT56Bpb8/T1R4dERJYRI/AAAAAAAADMQ/4dBb6RDj6Jc/s800/AP%2520statue.jpg
If only this Cavs squad had him, then maybe they'd have a shot at taking down Real Madrid

[Euroleague]

Only Rudy could make an NBA team.. Ayon was worse than Antic last season.. Nocioni still playing :roll:

they would get massacred by a lineup of Dellavedova-Miller-Jones-Marion-Perkins


So basically what you are saying is that the Cavs are not an NBA team......

Because you said only Rudy can make an NBA team......

But then listed a whole bunch of players that CANNOT make the roster of Real Madrid. And Dellavedova could make their team, but he would never play if he was on it.

So what was your point exactly? To prove that one of the Cavs best players plus 1/3 of their bench could not even make the rotation or roster of Real Madrid?

Or to prove that the Cavs are not an NBA team either?

Because you basically proved both, that is IF you really believe that "only Rudy can make an NBA team".

[Straight_Ballin]

Euroleague players suck in the NBA.
Former NBA players dominate Euroleague.

Pretty common knowledge. Anyone who believes differently has a mother who should have swallowed.

next

[Euroleague]

Not that I really give a damn about a two-bit backwoods league like the Euroleague, but...

http://www.euroleague.net/features/voices/2011-2012/vladimir-stankovic/i/93850/bob-mcadoo-the-nba-and-european-champ

Yes, so you just proved that you lied and trolled and were obnoxious about it.

And now you act like an a-hole, while also pretending to not know that you lied......yet at the same time posting proof that you did lie.

You are definitely just another one of the scumbag lying creeps here.

NOTHING you say about ANYTHING can be trusted.

You just blatantly lied and admitted it and are still pretending you did not, even though what you posted just proved you did.

You are at the same level of trolling as Rooster.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague players suck in the NBA.
Former NBA players dominate Euroleague.

Pretty common knowledge. Anyone who believes differently has a mother who should have swallowed.

next

The only thing that is "pretty much common knowledge" is that your post proves that you are psychotic.

[LikeABosh]

The only thing that is "pretty much common knowledge" is that your post proves that you are psychotic.
Literally every basketball fan knows NBA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Euroleague.

[Euroleague]

Literally every basketball fan knows NBA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Euroleague.

NBA only fan, as in people that ONLY know about the NBA, watch the NBA, follow the NBA.

People that actually follow and watch both leagues know that the Cavs would by no means at all be the best team in Euroleague. And that for anyone to even suggest players like Smith, Shumpert, Dellavedova, Thompson and guys like that would be dominant in Euroleague is absolutely ridiculous.

This thread is a classic example of those world according to America maps. Outside of your little moron bubble (USA centrism) everyone is laughing at pathetic clowns like you.

You are so retarded you don't even know what the word every means. "Every basketball fan knows".........................

Because in your little pea sized brain the word "every" means only the whole world, which to you means only USA centrism.

Grow the hell up.

[LikeABosh]

NBA only fan, as in people that ONLY know about the NBA, watch the NBA, follow the NBA.

People that actually follow and watch both leagues know that the Cavs would by no means at all be the best team in Euroleague. And that for anyone to even suggest players like Smith, Shumpert, Dellavedova, Thompson and guys like that would be dominant in Euroleague is absolutely ridiculous.

This thread is a classic example of those world according to America maps. Outside of your little moron bubble (USA centrism) everyone is laughing at pathetic clowns like you.

You are so retarded you don't even know what the word every means. "Every basketball fan knows".........................

Because in your little pea sized brain the word "every" means only the whole world, which to you means only USA centrism.

Grow the hell up.
Show me anyone respected in the basketball world who agrees with you.

[Kingwillball]

There are all kinds of players like Thompson in Euroleague. Players just like him, only a hell of a lot more athletic and much better at defense. Actually, in Real Madrid for example, he would probably not even see the court hardly ever.

Shumpert would be lucky to even sniff the rotation of any good Euroleague team.

Saying Smith would be the best 6th man in Euroleague is absolutely freaking ridiculous. And that is just straight out crazy.

You are an absolute moron of epic proportions.

And Dellavedova is basically a poor man's version of Vangelis Mantzaris. And Mantzaris is just considered as a decent guard in a good team.

It is these kinds of threads that truly expose the level of absurdity of NBA only fans.

Can't even argue with you. Straight comedy.

Next you will say Lebron would not be best player in that league just an average starter..

[Euroleague]

Show me anyone respected in the basketball world who agrees with you.

Another mental midget who thinks the word "world" only refers to anything having to do with USA.

[Euroleague]

Can't even argue with you. Straight comedy.

Yes it is. It is a real good laugh for people outside of USA when they read posts by people like you.

[Kingwillball]

Yes it is. It is a real good laugh for people outside of USA when they read posts by people like you.

Would Lebron even start in euroleague ?

[Kingwillball]

Another mental midget who thinks the word "world" only refers to anything having to do with USA.

When it comes to basketball yes USA is n

[fandarko]

Every one of those players would be at best somewhere around an 8-10 man in any top level Euroleague team. Actually, I don't think Shumpert could even make the main rotation of any top level Euroleague team.

You are seriously delusional.

Shumpert could perhaps make it as a defensive specialist, 15-20 minutes. Maybe. JR Smith as a 3 and D guy, probably the same PT. Mozgov would crack the rotation as a serviceable big, surefire. Delavedova wouldn't see the light of day because his position is occupied by much more physical players, mostly US.

Lebron and Kyrie and transcendental talents, count them out of this calculation.

l wouldn't bet on this Cavs team against Madrid, but with Kyrie they're ahead by a safe margin.

Tristan Thompson would be a solid big.

Different game, completely.

[plowking]

Yes it is. It is a real good laugh for people outside of USA when they read posts by people like you.

All the other posters that watch the Euroleague say that NBA is flat out better. You're the only one that thinks it is close.

No kids sit at home at night and dream of playing in the Euroleague. They think about the NBA. All the best young Euro prospects are coming to the NBA, and not sitting around in the Euroleague, a lower level league.

[fandarko]

Show me anyone respected in the basketball world who agrees with you.


I agree with his post.

The game played in the Euroleague, under Fiba rules, is completely different, to the extent that many of the skills making the aforementioned players good in the NBA setting, would not translate completely.

On the other hand, the Warriors would slaughter everyone (by slaughter I mean by 20) on any given night because they have all the ingredients (emphasis on shooting) - great guards, great forwards and great bigs. As would OKC with Durant healthy. Or the Spurs when healthy, or Dallas.

Teams that can shoot, run and defend and have more than one go-to-guy.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Spanoulis, who is apparently the Euroleague GOAT, put up 2.7 PPG on .319/.172/.810 in his one season in the NBA.

Dellavedova > Spanoulis.

[fandarko]

Euroleague players suck in the NBA.
Former NBA players dominate Euroleague.



You could make the opposite case.

Brandon Jennings averages 5 points in Rome, only to score 62 for the Bucks a couple months later early his rookie season.

Or Chandler Parsons averaging 10 points in a anonymous French team and then he proceeds to kill it with the Rockets, earning a lucrative contract.

Cut with simplistic crap.

[Euroleague]

Can't even argue with you. Straight comedy.

Next you will say Lebron would not be best player in that league just an average starter..

You just confirmed that you are a joke and you are doing nothing but lying and trolling.

There are no such things as starters in Euroleague. Starters and bench is only an American basketball concept, and it only exists in basketball that copies American basketball.

European basketball does not use "starters". They only have places 1-12 in the roster.

Starters are based on what the coach wants to do from game to game, match up to match up, and situation to situation. Also, some players start or come off the bench solely based on how the coach views it on his whim of how it fits the team.

Example, SEVERAL of the Euroleague season MVPs never started a single game.

You are continuing to prove you don't know a damn thing about what you are saying, and are just trolling.

[Nash]

lol at JR, Shump and Tristan wouldn't be the best players over there. Isn't Sonny Weems a superstar here in Europe? Andres Nocioni MVP? And Goudelock one of the top scorers?

[LAZERUSS]

You just confirmed that you are a joke and you are doing nothing but lying and trolling.

There are no such things as starters in Euroleague. Starters and bench is only an American basketball concept, and it only exists in basketball that copies American basketball.

European basketball does not use "starters". They only have places 1-12 in the roster.

So, when do the games start?

[freshperry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvdpgXvw_mE

[LAZERUSS]

You just confirmed that you are a joke and you are doing nothing but lying and trolling.

There are no such things as starters in Euroleague. Starters and bench is only an American basketball concept, and it only exists in basketball that copies American basketball.

European basketball does not use "starters". They only have places 1-12 in the roster.

Starters are based on what the coach wants to do from game to game, match up to match up, and situation to situation. Also, some players start or come off the bench solely based on how the coach views it on his whim of how it fits the team.

Example, SEVERAL of the Euroleague season MVPs never started a single game.

You are continuing to prove you don't know a damn thing about what you are saying, and are just trolling.

So did those MVPs even play, then?

[LAZERUSS]

Spanoulis, who is apparently the Euroleague GOAT, put up 2.7 PPG on .319/.172/.810 in his one season in the NBA.

Dellavedova > Spanoulis.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Spanoulis=Griner.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvdpgXvw_mE

/thread.

[Euroleague]

Shumpert could perhaps make it as a defensive specialist, 15-20 minutes. Maybe. JR Smith as a 3 and D guy, probably the same PT. Mozgov would crack the rotation as a serviceable big, surefire. Delavedova wouldn't see the light of day because his position is occupied by much more physical players, mostly US.

Lebron and Kyrie and transcendental talents, count them out of this calculation.

l wouldn't bet on this Cavs team against Madrid, but with Kyrie they're ahead by a safe margin.

Tristan Thompson would be a solid big.

Different game, completely.

I have serious doubt about someone like Shumpert making it in a top Euroleague team. He's nowhere near as good as a player like David Moss for example. And let's be real here, Moss has only made it as a defensive specialist in teams like Siena and Milano, that were not really top teams. We are not talking the elite teams of Euroleague, nothing like being discussed here. And Moss is WAY BETTER than Shumpert.

As for Smith, I would equate him to something like a poor man's version of Keith Langford. Langford is a much better ball handler, play maker, and passer, and infinitely smarter. Not to mention leaps and bounds a better teammate and more coachable. Obviously, they are not exactly the same kinds of players but you get what I am saying.

Langford is always being stuck in those teams like UNICS or Milano or whatever because of the simple fact that he's going to jack up shots needlessly over and over, shoot you in or out of a game, play defense whenever he feels like it, not when it is needed, go out of the system all the time for heat checks, etc. When he did even play in a team like Maccabi, not exactly Euroleague biggest clubs, but closer, he was in a something like 7-8 man role.

And let's also remember that Smith could only play in a few teams to begin with, because he could only play for coaches that would even tolerate him. I would say that about 80% of the coaches in Euroleague would cut him within a month or two.

Thompson would be a solid big yes. But this clown claimed he would dominate. However, solid big NOT in a top level team. He would not be the kind of big for a top level team. Which really puts the point across, he is for the Cavs, but would not be for the best Euroleague teams.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Remember when David Moss played in the NBA? No? Oh, that's right he never made it. Which means Shumpert > Moss and it's not even ****ing close.

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]When it comes to basketball yes USA is n

[Euroleague]

All the other posters that watch the Euroleague say that NBA is flat out better. You're the only one that thinks it is close.

No kids sit at home at night and dream of playing in the Euroleague. They think about the NBA. All the best young Euro prospects are coming to the NBA, and not sitting around in the Euroleague, a lower level league.

And what you just posted is a lie. None of that is true.

[FLDFSU]

You have always trolled and lied about Euroleague, but now you are entering into the area of exposing yourself as being just another psychopath. Check yourself right now, or risk being put into the same category as the rest of the forum's lunatics.

STFU idiot

[Euroleague]

Remember when David Moss played in the NBA? No? Oh, that's right he never made it. Which means Shumpert > Moss and it's not even ****ing close.

"Never made it".

You can't possibly have more than one functioning brain cell.

Moss is BETTER than Shumpert. That is the point. Moss is that defensive specialist 2/3 and he is not up for the biggest Euroleague teams. Yet he is BETTER than Shumpert is.

And we have clown fools in this thread claiming Shumpert would dominate Euroleague.

"Never made it".

Using this logic, therefore, ergo, Euroleague > NBA, hence, "remember when Shumpert played in Euroleague"? "Oh, that's right, he never made it to that level. He was not good enough to make it to the Euroleague, so he had to play in the NBA instead, because the level of the competition is lower."

You are RETARDED.

Logic -----> YOU HAVE NONE.

[Euroleague]

I agree with his post.

The game played in the Euroleague, under Fiba rules, is completely different, to the extent that many of the skills making the aforementioned players good in the NBA setting, would not translate completely.

On the other hand, the Warriors would slaughter everyone (by slaughter I mean by 20) on any given night because they have all the ingredients (emphasis on shooting) - great guards, great forwards and great bigs. As would OKC with Durant healthy. Or the Spurs when healthy, or Dallas.

Teams that can shoot, run and defend and have more than one go-to-guy.

Dallas? Dallas? How the hell would Dallas?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Shumpert plays in the greatest basketball league in the world, Moss plays in some shitty knockoff that's roughly equivalent to American high school basketball.

Case closed.

[Euroleague]

lol at JR, Shump and Tristan wouldn't be the best players over there. Isn't Sonny Weems a superstar here in Europe? Andres Nocioni MVP? And Goudelock one of the top scorers?

Isn't Pablo Prigioni a superstar in the NBA? Ricky Rubio one of the best NBA players ever? Isn't Gary Neal like the NBA scoring champion?

[Kingwillball]

You just confirmed that you are a joke and you are doing nothing but lying and trolling.

There are no such things as starters in Euroleague. Starters and bench is only an American basketball concept, and it only exists in basketball that copies American basketball.

European basketball does not use "starters". They only have places 1-12 in the roster.

Starters are based on what the coach wants to do from game to game, match up to match up, and situation to situation. Also, some players start or come off the bench solely based on how the coach views it on his whim of how it fits the team.

Example, SEVERAL of the Euroleague season MVPs never started a single game.

You are continuing to prove you don't know a damn thing about what you are saying, and are just trolling.


This is not soccer buddy or as you probably call it futboll I dont give a flying f@ck how they decide who plays or starters and bench. Basketball in America where the game was invented is all that matters and here there are starters and a bench.

[Euroleague]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvdpgXvw_mE


/thread.

Always nice to see which moron is the first one to not know the difference between Team USA and an NBA team (Cleveland Cavaliers), and some random international national team from anywhere in the world like the Chinese national team, and a Euroleague team (Real Madrid).

Kudos on winning the dumbest posters in the thread award.

[Euroleague]

STFU idiot

Why? He straight out lied and got called out on it.

Wow, lots of little pu$$ies in this thread today.

[Euroleague]

Shumpert plays in the greatest basketball league in the world, Moss plays in some shitty knockoff that's roughly equivalent to American high school basketball.

Case closed.

Now you are getting so desperate that you are posting at the level of someone like Rooster or qrich.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

[Euroleague]

This is not soccer buddy or as you probably call it futboll I dont give a flying f@ck how they decide who plays or starters and bench. Basketball in America where the game was invented is all that matters and here there are starters and a bench.

By a Canadian, with FIBA rules.

You are an unbelievable troll at this point. You have been completely owned and now you are just embarrassing yourself.

[LAZERUSS]

Isn't Pablo Prigioni a superstar in the NBA? Ricky Rubio one of the best NBA players ever? Isn't Gary Neal like the NBA scoring champion?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This is the TRUTH...

Rubio is, BY FAR, the WORST shooter in NBA HISTORY.

[pastis]

Lebron would average 60/15/15 vs them

not at all. playing with FIBA rules lebron would get call for a travel every second position. lebron would have in 10 min at least 3 off and 3 def fouls.

but thats not about lebron specifically, that applies to every extremly athletic player who does not rely on his jjumper but on strenght.

this euroleaue underestimation is laughable. alba berlin who NEVER came through the second round in Euroleague defeated the Spurs, the reigning champion.....and nearly every top player played heavy minutes and it didnt look like SA and Popovich didnt care about that game.

im not saying that EUroleague is on the same level as the NBA in a general way, but the top 4-6 Eurloeague teams would easily make the playoffs in the east.

[Euroleague]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This is the TRUTH...

Rubio is, BY FAR, the WORST shooter in NBA HISTORY.

I told this whole forum how bad of a shooter he was years before he came to the NBA and everyone here called me a liar for years and years because I kept saying it.

SAME CLOWNS like post in this thread. NEVER saw a game in Europe in their lives, yet make all these statements as fact like they know what they are talking about, when they don't know a damn thing.

I should know better than anyone, since I am the one that came here years ago and told everyone about how bad Rubio was at shooting and for like 3 years the whole forum attacked me and called me a liar over it. AND STILL NO ONE ADMITTED I WAS RIGHT HERE ABOUT THAT.

Anyway, point is, Rubio is NOT even the worst shooter in the NBA now. Nick Calathes is a worse shooter than Rubio is. And you are trolling yet again, if you say otherwise. I have watched both of them play for a long time, and Rubio is a better shooter than Calathes.

[LAZERUSS]

I told this whole forum how bad of a shooter he was years before he came to the NBA and everyone here called me a liar for years and years because I kept saying it.

SAME CLOWNS like post in this thread. NEVER saw a game in Europe in their lives, yet make all these statements as fact like they know what they are talking about, when they don't know a damn thing.

I should know better than anyone, since I am the one that came here years ago and told everyone about how bad Rubio was at shooting and for like 3 years the whole forum attacked me and called me a liar over it. AND STILL NO ONE ADMITTED I WAS RIGHT HERE ABOUT THAT.

Anyway, point is, Rubio is NOT even the worst shooter in the NBA now. Nick Calathes is a worse shooter than Rubio is. And you are trolling yet again, if you say otherwise. I have watched both of them play for a long time, and Rubio is a better shooter than Calathes.

Well, they will both be back in Europe before long. Probably lead that league in FG%.

[Kingwillball]

By a Canadian, with FIBA rules.

You are an unbelievable troll at this point. You have been completely owned and now you are just embarrassing yourself.

Owned by who ? Certainly not you who is just flat out embarrassing himself defending that trash league.

[Nash]

Isn't Pablo Prigioni a superstar in the NBA? Ricky Rubio one of the best NBA players ever? Isn't Gary Neal like the NBA scoring champion?
No, but what I said was actually true.

Sonny Weems is a star.
Andrew Goudelock is one of the top scorers
Andres Nocioni was the final 4 MVP

these are all facts

[LAZERUSS]

Isn't Pablo Prigioni a superstar in the NBA? Ricky Rubio one of the best NBA players ever? Isn't Gary Neal like the NBA scoring champion?

Why don't you send us some MJ's, Shaq's, Kareem's, and Magic's...instead of these worthless rejects?

[fandarko]

lol at JR, Shump and Tristan wouldn't be the best players over there. Isn't Sonny Weems a superstar here in Europe? Andres Nocioni MVP? And Goudelock one of the top scorers?

There are no true superstars in Europe, team ball rules.

Top scorers are in the teens, nobody's over 20 PPG.

Sony Weems is a very good player, not a star by any stretch of imagination.

Nocioni was finals MVP averaging 12 points a game, while providing all-round effort and hustle.

Goudelock is in a situation where he can shoot a lot. He's a good shooter and hence he gets to score 19 ppg (I think). He is not a star.

The emphasis in the Euroleague is much more on team effort than in the NBA. Coaches are kings. Nobody gets to shoot 20 times.

While the NBA is naturally better than the Euroleague, it's like comparing oranges to apples.

And the Euroleague and Eurocup are miles ahead of the next best league in the USA.

For example, the NCAA and Euroleague/Eurocup or any national league in Europe are incomparable, for the simple reason that the NCAA is occupied by young kids, with one and dones gone after the first year, making the overall depth dilluted.

[inclinerator]

david fking moss

[niko]

in soccer?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Now you are getting so desperate that you are posting at the level of someone like Rooster or qrich.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

NBA > D-League > NCAA > HS > Euroleague.

[LikeABosh]

Another mental midget who thinks the word "world" only refers to anything having to do with USA.
Still waiting... USA is the king of the basketball world. It's not remotely close.

[jamal99]

I agree with his post.

The game played in the Euroleague, under Fiba rules, is completely different, to the extent that many of the skills making the aforementioned players good in the NBA setting, would not translate completely.

On the other hand, the Warriors would slaughter everyone (by slaughter I mean by 20) on any given night because they have all the ingredients (emphasis on shooting) - great guards, great forwards and great bigs. As would OKC with Durant healthy. Or the Spurs when healthy, or Dallas.

Teams that can shoot, run and defend and have more than one go-to-guy.
That's why I said Cavs. They are basically not playing basketball out there, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how Warriors can't beat them.

I'm not saying Euroleague>NBA, but Real Madrid at least plays basketball...

[niko]

That's why I said Cavs. They are basically not playing basketball out there, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how Warriors can't beat them.

I'm not saying Euroleague>NBA, but Real Madrid at least plays basketball...
I'm not sure if it's worse that you post something so stupid in general, or that you try to rationalize it as not being utterly stupid.

[LikeABosh]

That's why I said Cavs. They are basically not playing basketball out there, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how Warriors can't beat them.

I'm not saying Euroleague>NBA, but Real Madrid at least plays basketball...
Cavs are playing elite defense, it's not all about offense. They are being led by a GOAT player. Not that hard to understand. Cavs-115 Real Madrid-65. Lebron with 60/15/15

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Who is David Moss?

[fiddy]

Every one of those players would be at best somewhere around an 8-10 man in any top level Euroleague team. Actually, I don't think Shumpert could even make the main rotation of any top level Euroleague team.

You are seriously delusional.
:roll: :roll:

[Euroleague]

not at all. playing with FIBA rules lebron would get call for a travel every second position. lebron would have in 10 min at least 3 off and 3 def fouls.

but thats not about lebron specifically, that applies to every extremly athletic player who does not rely on his jjumper but on strenght.

this euroleaue underestimation is laughable. alba berlin who NEVER came through the second round in Euroleague defeated the Spurs, the reigning champion.....and nearly every top player played heavy minutes and it didnt look like SA and Popovich didnt care about that game.

im not saying that EUroleague is on the same level as the NBA in a general way, but the top 4-6 Eurloeague teams would easily make the playoffs in the east.

The Spurs were definitely trying hard to win that game and Popovich said they were after the game also.

[the_troof]

lol the nba was great until the euro's started to ruin it. where do you think flopping and ***** big men came from? thats right, europe.

[Euroleague]

No, but what I said was actually true.

Sonny Weems is a star.
Andrew Goudelock is one of the top scorers
Andres Nocioni was the final 4 MVP

these are all facts

Weems isn't a star. He's something like a middle importance player on his team, and he's a finisher in open court and a guy that takes open shots. He's probably like 4th to 6th best player on his team. Somewhere in there.

Final Four MVP is a team based award genius. if you think it is anything like NBA awards, you are still trolling. Nocioni won the award because he came into a game where Olympiacos was making a run and he made some hustle plays and put some energy plays in a game (ONE SINGLE GAME) and that is all. He's like the 10th to 11th man of Real Madrid - and you actually picked him out as someone to troll about.

Goudelock is a top scorer in teams that don't ever do a damn thing because they are not good teams. UNICS, which was a dud team, and now Fener, which was also a dud team. Teams that lost everything, crashed and burned and imploded. Basically because they had no go to player, no finisher, no one to create a shot at the end of a game, no one to make a needed shot, etc.

Put him in a big Euroleague team (the issue we were talking about here genius) and he's another Jaycee Carroll averaging 8 points a game.

Also, Goudelock does NOTHING on a basketball court except score points. NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. I've never in my life seen such a useless player as him, if he is not scoring the ball.

All he does is score a basketball. He won't pass, he won't play make, he won't defend, he won't do basics of anything of any part of the game.

He is really talented, can really shoot, and he's very athletic. He has all of the ability, but he has something wrong in his mind. He's like the laziest I have ever seen. There is no way he is lasting more than 1 year or 1.5 years on any team.

Yet you make him sound like some kind of Euroleague god.

Again, with every post, you just prove more and more you don't know a damn thing about Euroleague and you just troll endlessly about it. Just STFU already. Enough is enough.

[the_troof]

lmao at this euro bitch. the Celtics would toast real madrid in a 7 game series and they're awful. It is a joke that he is even comparing the Euroleague to the NBA

[Euroleague]

Why don't you send us some MJ's, Shaq's, Kareem's, and Magic's...instead of these worthless rejects?

Why doesn't the USA send itself some? It has not produced any since them. It sure has produced millions of rejects though.

[T_L_P]

When Anthony Parker wins MVP, you know it's a weak league.

[Euroleague]

That's why I said Cavs. They are basically not playing basketball out there, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how Warriors can't beat them.

I'm not saying Euroleague>NBA, but Real Madrid at least plays basketball...

When did David Blatt ever play anything remotely resembling real basketball? His teams have never played anything resembling basic basketball. All of his teams play like this. In Maccabi, Sofo had the role that LeBron has now, except it was low post.

It's another example of this extreme bullshit of US sports all the time.

Remember how all the US media said that "Blatt uses the Princeton offense" and "Blatt is an offensive genius".

I was like WTF are these morons smoking? Blatt never used the Princeton offense and he was always a defense oriented coach.

But that was the ONLY thing US media claimed about him over and over. And remember how this forum was flooded with all those topics about it? If anyone tried to say it was BULLSHIT and LIES (which I did over and over) all these clown trolls here called you a "liar, troll, lunatic, Euro nut", etc.

Just more and more examples of the psychosis in this forum and about European basketball in general in USA.

Did you know that in ESPN in USA they are claiming that "Blatt won 16 Euroleague championships"? YES, they are saying "David Blatt won 16 championships in Euroleague".


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Euroleague]

When Anthony Parker wins MVP, you know it's a weak league.

Well, when guys like Derrick Rose and Steph Curry win MVP, it IS a weak league.

[Euroleague]

lol the nba was great until the euro's started to ruin it. where do you think flopping and ***** big men came from? thats right, europe.

If that is true then it is ironic, considering flopping is banned in both Euroleague and FIBA. But it's welcomed and even encouraged and rewarded in the NBA.

[T_L_P]

Well, when guys like Derrick Rose and Steph Curry win MVP, it IS a weak league.

Anthony Parker: role player in NBA, b2b MVP in Euroleague.

Curry is twice the player Parker was. So you are admitting Euroleague is trash.

[T_L_P]

Also, haven't Madrid gone 1-5 in their games against NBA teams, with an average margin of defeat over 15 points?

Real Madrid in the NBA is a 5-10 win team.

[Euroleague]

lmao at this euro bitch. the Celtics would toast real madrid in a 7 game series and they're awful. It is a joke that he is even comparing the Euroleague to the NBA

The Celtics are the perfect example of a SCARED LITTLE BITCH ASS PUNK NBA team.

They went to play an above average Euroleague team in Fenerbahce, and lost, and ever since then they will ONLY play against Euroleague teams that don't measure up.

It's no coincidence that they will only schedule games since then against teams like Milano, that can barely even get by in the Italian League, despite having a budget 2-3 times higher than every other team in the league.

The Celtics are SCARED SHITLESS ever since they lost to Fener, which is a FAR CRY from a team like Real Madrid. And now they only schedule hand picked teams like Milano that are cream puffs. Same as Mickey hand picking cream puffs for Rocky after he beat Apollo Creed.

It's the same exact crap as how every single year Olympiacos and Panathinaikos have said they have invited NBA teams to come play them at their arenas, and every single year the NBA has REFUSED. Because the NBA is SCARED SHITLESS of playing in an arena like OAKA or SEF against better Euroleague teams.

[T_L_P]

Isn't Gustavo Ayon the starting C in Madrid? :oldlol:

This is a dude who was too soft to compete with NBA 12th men. :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

Also, haven't Madrid gone 1-5 in their games against NBA teams, with an average margin of defeat over 15 points?

Real Madrid in the NBA is a 5-10 win team.

This thread just keeps on giving. Every time you think you can't possibly see a bigger idiot, one just pops up all of a sudden..........

Yeah, and the Cavs would win 2 games in Euroleague.

Your point?

[T_L_P]

This thread just keeps on giving. Every time you think you can't possibly see a bigger idiot, one just pops up all of a sudden..........

Yeah, and the Cavs would win 2 games in Euroleague.

Your point?
..


Isn't Gustavo Ayon the starting C in Madrid? :oldlol:

This is a dude who was too soft to compete with NBA 12th men. :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

Isn't Gustavo Ayon the starting C in Madrid? :oldlol:

This is a dude who was too soft to compete with NBA 12th men. :oldlol:

As was already explained, Euroleague does not use the concept of starters. But of course, you probably can't read.

And actually, he spent most of the season coming off the bench. Which again, Euroleague does not have "starters" like in NBA, which obviously your little pea brain can't grasp.

[Kvnzhangyay]

This thread is just like 3ball's threads; With enough cherrypicking, faulty logic and belief perseverance, you can construe facts in any way you want for an argument

[T_L_P]

As was already explained, Euroleague does not use the concept of starters. But of course, you probably can't read.

And actually, he spent most of the season coming off the bench. Which again, Euroleague does not have "starters" like in NBA, which obviously your little pea brain can't grasp.

Your point? He got significant playing team on this 'great' Euroleague team yet he was only used in blowout situations in the NBA. And he could barely handle that.

Hilarious. :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

Your point? He got significant playing team on this 'great' Euroleague team yet he was only used in blowout situations in the NBA. And he could barely handle that.

Hilarious. :oldlol:

Shall we name the dozens upon dozens of players from scrub European leagues below Euroleague level (many of them not even pro level) that were even some of the worst players in those leagues that went to the NBA and instantly became starters and rotation players?

Shall we name the plethora of Euroleague SCRUBS that have been starters for YEARS in the NBA?

This same discussion has been had here over and over and over, and STILL clowns like you PRETEND these things "never happened".

Hell, the SAME song and dance happens EVERY YEAR at the NBA draft, when the NBA drafts a bunch of scrubs and role players who are either scrubs in Euroleague, or scrubs and complete nobodies in lower European leagues, or even non pro amateur leagues.

And plenty of them go into NBA rotations RIGHT AWAY.

Or what about all the NBA 6th men, rotation players, and starters that have gone to the Euroleague over the years and absolutely SUCKED?

So WTF is your point?

Are you trying to say that Euroleague took Ayon, while the NBA takes dozens of scrubs from Europe, many of them NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE EUROLEAGUE and puts them in NBA rotations?

Is that your whole argument?

[Sportal]

I find it hard to see people argue with someone who is so clearly unhinged...

You won't win any awards for arguing with special needs children.

[Lebron23]

Sixers would be the best team in the euroleague.

[ISHGoat]

He meant in soccer

[LAZERUSS]

Why doesn't the USA send itself some? It has not produced any since them. It sure has produced millions of rejects though.

Oh, but you and other's here have argued that this world population explosion has given us far more talent than decades ago.

I haven't seen ONE Kareem, or ONE Magic since the originals. How come? Shouldn't we have 7-5 Magic's flooding the NBA?

[Euroleague]

Oh, but you and other's here have argued that this world population explosion has given us far more talent than decades ago.

I haven't seen ONE Kareem, or ONE Magic since the originals. How come? Shouldn't we have 7-5 Magic's flooding the NBA?

You are clearly mentally disabled.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I am clearly mentally disabled.

Finally, he understands what we've been saying.

[Euroleague]

Finally, he understands what we've been saying.

So what degree are you? It's obviously VERY low. You clearly don't get to use the big boy handshake.

Know who you are commencing with.

[AussieBaller99]

Delly would play decent minutes on any team in the world just from his will to give the team everything he has no matter what and he is also a tremendous hard worker. There would be so many Non athletic Australian PGs wanting to make it in the NBA, yet he is really the only one

[Rooster]

When Anthony Parker wins MVP, you know it's a weak league.

Did you just said Anthony Parker:confusedshrug:

5 years in Euroleague
3 Euroleague Title
2 Euroleague MVPs
1 Euroleague FMVP
Highest Euroleague Index Ever:bowdown: :oldlol:

He joined Nate Huffman and Joseph Blair in Euroleague MVP lore:applause:

and faded away from obscurity here in America

[Rooster]

It's where 42 year olds like McAdoo, who were washed up 10 years prior, go on to dominate and win FMVPs.

You should add the corpse of Nique to the mix.:oldlol:

His corpse was shipped to Euroleague for one year and just took over.:oldlol:

[jzek]

You are seriously delusional.

Love it when Euroleague calls someone delusional! :roll:

[Rooster]

Shumpert could perhaps make it as a defensive specialist, 15-20 minutes. Maybe. JR Smith as a 3 and D guy, probably the same PT. Mozgov would crack the rotation as a serviceable big, surefire. Delavedova wouldn't see the light of day because his position is occupied by much more physical players, mostly US.

Lebron and Kyrie and transcendental talents, count them out of this calculation.

l wouldn't bet on this Cavs team against Madrid, but with Kyrie they're ahead by a safe margin.

Tristan Thompson would be a solid big.

Different game, completely.

Goudeluck never played a meaningful minutes with the Lakers yet he was balling out of control with Fener.:confusedshrug:

There are more American rejects named Euroleague MVPs, Final Four MVPs, All Euroleague teams, All Decade Team than any nation In Europe and all of them
were scrubs.:roll:

[jzek]

Did you just said Anthony Parker:confusedshrug:

5 years in Euroleague
3 Euroleague Title
2 Euroleague MVPs
1 Euroleague FMVP
Highest Euroleague Index Ever:bowdown: :oldlol:


Just goes to show how weak Euroleague really is... :wtf:

And he left all that to be a bench warmer in the NBA.

[secund2nun]

A WNBA team once defeated the Euroleague Champions with ease.

[deja vu]

Agree. Golden State is playing like a D-League team right now.

It's not about the stars on the team, but the teamwork, chemistry, cohesion, ball movement, etc. So far, any top Euroleague team would beat the socks out of GSW and even the Cavs.

[Euroleague]

This Cavs team is basically just Panathinaikos with LeBron in place of Diamantidis. Only the role players on Panathinaikos are better than the role players on the Cavs.

This Warriors team is nothing more than a small ball version of CSKA.

And both of these teams have a ridiculously low basketball IQ. Neither one of these teams is smart enough to win a Euroleague championship. So the guys in here saying the Warriors could win Euroleague are wrong. They couldn't. Incredibly stupid teams, which is what the Warriors are, can't win Euroleague.

And as far as Dellavedova goes....

This is another example of how incredibly overrated the NBA is. The freaking NBA announcers and US media is just drooling over this guy.

Anyone that really knows Euroleague basketball well could tell you that what Dellavedova is doing right now in this finals series would not even amount to jack in Euroleague playoffs or final four level.

NBA announcers and "analysts" and US sports media are acting like he's "physical" and all this other BS, "a lock down defender"......

Every good Euroleague team has like 2 guys in perimeter that are more physical and better at defense than he is, plus as being guards are way more skilled on offense than he is.

And THIS GUY is taking over the NBA Finals?

And just carefully examine BOTH teams --->

no basketball IQ

terrible shot selection

no point guard skills on either side

incredibly weak dribbling skills on both sides (both teams would be called for a
travel or palming violation almost every time they touched the ball if it was Euroleague).

Absolutely NO physicality WHATSOEVER from either team. The absolute SOFTEST AS HELL teams you could ever imagine. Both these teams would get thrown around like china dolls in a serious Euroleague level.


This is the worst level of NBA Finals I have ever seen in my life. Forget about the Cavs not beating Real Madrid. I change my mind. After 3 terrible games of this same crap horrible basketball in a row by both teams, I am convinced neither one of these teams could even beat a team like Efes.

[Alamо]

Not after seeing Lebron's slide tackle last night

[Euroleague]

Did you just said Anthony Parker:confusedshrug:

5 years in Euroleague
3 Euroleague Title
2 Euroleague MVPs
1 Euroleague FMVP
Highest Euroleague Index Ever:bowdown: :oldlol:

He joined Nate Huffman and Joseph Blair in Euroleague MVP lore:applause:

Bold is a LIE. More made up lies and bullshit from you as usual.

[Euroleague]

Goudeluck never played a meaningful minutes with the Lakers yet he was balling out of control with Fener.:confusedshrug:

There are more American rejects named Euroleague MVPs, Final Four MVPs, All Euroleague teams, All Decade Team than any nation In Europe and all of them
were scrubs.:roll:

Goudelock was cut from UNICS. He signed a 1+1 contract and after he played so bad at the important elimination games, he was cut after his first season.

Goudelock then signed a 1+1 contract with Fener, and sure enough after he sucked so bad at all the important games this year with Fener, and his team again lost everything, and with him playing like complete shit again........

He has now according to reports once again been cut by his team.

Some superstar.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Not after seeing Lebron's slide tackle last night

:oldlol:

Seriously though, Dellavedova > Spanoulis.

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

Seriously though, Dellavedova > Spanoulis.

Dellavedova isn't even as good as Victor Sada. Like someone else in the thread already said, he's a defensive specialist guard trying to make his name on being physical and getting up on defenders, etc.

Yet in Euroleague every team is full of guards bigger, stronger, tougher, more aggressive, better at defense, and more physical than he is. With a hell of a lot more skill also.

He probably wouldn't last more than 1 season in Euroleague.

He's a poor man's Vangelis Mantzaris, just as I said. Mantzaris is probably like the 7th or 8th best player on Olympiacos.

Dellavedova is just that. The Mantzaris, Victor Sada, Aaron Jackson and those types of guards that are common place in Euroleague. Pretty much every team has them. But they are all more athletic, more physical, better at defense, bigger, stronger.

NBA only fans really are suffering from psychosis. A player that is marginally "tough" and plays a minimal amount of "defense" and simply hustles, suddenly becomes Rambo on the court, simply because NBA fans have not seen a player with any of those qualities in about 20 years.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That's a lot of text.

Dellavedova is starting in the finals, locking down the best shooter in the league...Spanoulis is in Europe because he couldn't hack it as a bench player in the NBA.

[LikeABosh]

Put Lebron on a top college basketball team, give them a training camp and they beat Real Madrid

[Euroleague]

That's a lot of text.

Dellavedova is starting in the finals, locking down the best shooter in the league...Spanoulis is in Europe because he couldn't hack it as a bench player in the NBA.

As people with actual basketball knowledge can see. Spanoulis is playing in the league with the actual better teams. The Cavs and Warriors are not capable of winning Euroleague, and neither one of them could beat Spanoulis' team.

Dellavedova is playing in the WWE entertainment league. And he is playing the role of scruffie Aussie and all the morons like you just eat it up.

[Euroleague]

Put Lebron on a top college basketball team, give them a training camp and they beat Real Madrid

At a brick laying contest.

[FKAri]

That's a lot of text.

Dellavedova is starting in the finals, locking down the best shooter in the league...Spanoulis is in Europe because he couldn't hack it as a bench player in the NBA.

Vagilis Spanoulis is trash but Steph Curry looking like a Japanese league 6th man.

[Kingwillball]

Put Lebron on a top college basketball team, give them a training camp and they beat Real Madrid

Yup put lebron on Kentucky and that is that ..

[r0drig0lac]

This Cavs team is basically just Panathinaikos with LeBron in place of Diamantidis.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/biggums.png

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Put Lebron on a U-10 team, give them a training camp and they beat Real Madrid

Fixed.

[Euroleague]

The NBA only fans in this thread are so desperate at this point. That they are actually defending what are clearly the two worst Finals teams anyone can ever remember just shows how truly pathetic NBA only fans really are.

By far the worst of all kinds of sports fans in the world.

Not actual sports fans. Not actual basketball fans. Just fans of anything that has the letters NBA on it, no matter how pathetically crappy and awful it may be.

[LAZERUSS]

The NBA only fans in this thread are so desperate at this point. That they are actually defending what are clearly the two worst Finals teams anyone can ever remember just shows how truly pathetic NBA only fans really are.

By far the worst of all kinds of sports fans in the world.

Not actual sports fans. Not actual basketball fans. Just fans of anything that has the letters NBA on it, no matter how pathetically crappy and awful it may be.

I wonder what kind of ratings the Euroleague Finals would draw in this country.

[Euroleague]

The Warriors actually played a good (not very good) game. Kudos to them on playing a good game after 4 games. The Cavs still have not managed to do so yet.

And without a doubt, players like Smith, Thompson, Shumpert, and Dellavedova would not be anything of note at all in Euroleague.

The clowns saying they would be the best players in Euroleague are certifiable.

Shumpert and Dellavedova would not even make the rotations in any good Euroleague teams. And Smith would not tolerated by hardly any coach in Euroleague.

I think a coach like Luca Banchi would tolerate him, but he just got fired. Thompson as already said, would be a solid rotation big man, like a 4th big for a decent team. But he would not be up to the level of the top teams.

As for Curry, he would have to play at two guard in Euroleague, and he would have to get bigger and stronger. Because he's too weak for the physicality of the guards and game in Euroleague and the guards are so big there. So he would have to get bigger in playing the two.

He could not play the one because he's way too stupid to play the one in Euroleague. He gets away with being a retard playing the one in the NBA, but it would not work in Euroleague.

He would have to adjust his game a lot. Same with Lebron. He would be called for travel and palming just about every time he touched the ball if he was playing in Euroleague. Especially on those post ups, as he blatantly travels every time when he is posting up, even worse than when he is on the perimeter or in transition. None of that crap would ever be allowed in Euroleague and so at least 50% of his offense would instantly be eliminated.

He would also have to adjust his game a lot to play in Euroleague.

On the other hand, someone like Klay Thompson or Draymond Greene should be able to do just fine in general.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Both teams are still exponentially better than Euroleague's best. WNBA > Euroleague.

[Euroleague]

Both teams are still exponentially better than Euroleague's best. WNBA > Euroleague.

You can make these retarded statements all you want to. The fact is everyone that follows both leagues right now knows neither team can beat the best teams in Euroleague.

So none of these bullshit statements from NBA fans mean anything anymore.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Given the choice, why would a world-class player WANT to play in the Euro League? They make 3x less money.

Oh, and Euroleague, you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

[Euroleague]

Given the choice, why would a world-class player WANT to play in the Euro League? They make 3x less money.

Oh, and Euroleague, you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

You fail at basic math moron.

The top paid players in Euroleague make 3-4.5 million euros a year NET INCOME.

The top paid players in NBA are making about 9-10 million dollars a year NET income.

Which means that you fail at basic math, and you are clearly RETARDED.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

You can make these retarded statements all you want to. The fact is everyone that follows both leagues right now knows neither team can beat the best teams in Euroleague.

So none of these bullshit statements from NBA fans mean anything anymore.

So you're saying that everyone who follows both leagues is retarded?

The Sixers would run train on any Euroleague team.

[Euroleague]

So you're saying that everyone who follows both leagues is retarded?

The Sixers would run train on any Euroleague team.

The Sixers could not even win the 2nd tier European league, the Eurocup. No way in hell could they beat Eurocup teams like Lokomotiv, Valencia, Khimky in any serious game.

You are certifiably insane.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

The Sixers could not even win the 2nd tier European league, the Eurocup. No way in hell could they beat Eurocup teams like Lokomotiv, Valencia, Khimky in any serious game.

You are certifiably insane.

Sixers would go down as the GOAT Euroleague team. Undefeated record, point differential of 25+.

[aj1987]

Sixers would go down as the GOAT Euroleague team. Undefeated record, point differential of 25+.
Are you retarded? A trio of current Chuck, Shaq, and Kenny with scrub HS players would 3peat.

lol

[LAZERUSS]

The Sixers could not even win the 2nd tier European league, the Eurocup. No way in hell could they beat Eurocup teams like Lokomotiv, Valencia, Khimky in any serious game.

You are certifiably insane.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

You mean Eurocup teams with their best players being NBA rejects, or who couldn't even make an NBA roster??

:roll: :roll: :roll:

GTFO you idiot.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

You fail at basic math moron.

The top paid players in Euroleague make 3-4.5 million euros a year NET INCOME.

The top paid players in NBA are making about 9-10 million dollars a year NET income.

Which means that you fail at basic math, and you are clearly RETARDED.

Holy shit, way to be anally retentive.

The highest-paid NBA players make over 20 million dollars a year. The highest paid euroleaguers make....what.....4 million euros? But for your sake, sure, let's go with your made up "10 mill" figure.


But anyways, way to miss the bigger picture, you utter, utter douchebag. I was just throwing out a lazy statement that I didn't bother to do any research on (not to say that I give YOUR research any credence) because anyone with a brain knows Euroleague players make way less money. AT BEST, ACCORDING TO YOU, THEY MAKE 2X LESS. :roll: :roll: :roll: and you think that's a point in your favour? The fact that I said 3x instead of 2x (which I still stand by) ??

Given the choice between the two, why the hell would most of the top players in the world pick a league that is less prestigious, where they make less money?

Absolute imbecile, lol. I can't believe your penny-sized brain convinced you into thinking that you actually roasted me, dumbshit.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You mean Eurocup teams with their best players being NBA rejects, or who couldn't even make an NBA roster??

:roll: :roll: :roll:

GTFO you idiot.

Nenad Krstic was/is one of the highest paid players in Europe. Tells you all you need to know.

Unless it's something about the Euroleague rules that enable Krstic to use his skillset to become a superstar, that's laughable. And I LIKE Krstic, but come on.

[KG215]

This Cavs team is basically just Panathinaikos with LeBron in place of Diamantidis.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You say that like it's not a big deal. Like there's not a Grand Canyon sized gap between LeBron and Diamantidis as players. LeBron is the best player in the world. Even if Diamantidis is the best Euroleague player, or a top 5-10 Euroleague player, he's nowhere near LeBron's level.

[Euroleague]

Holy shit, way to be anally retentive.

The highest-paid NBA players make over 20 million dollars a year. The highest paid euroleaguers make....what.....4 million euros? But for your sake, sure, let's go with your made up "10 mill" figure.


But anyways, way to miss the bigger picture, you utter, utter douchebag. I was just throwing out a lazy statement that I didn't bother to do any research on (not to say that I give YOUR research any credence) because anyone with a brain knows Euroleague players make way less money. AT BEST, ACCORDING TO YOU, THEY MAKE 2X LESS. :roll: :roll: :roll: and you think that's a point in your favour? The fact that I said 3x instead of 2x (which I still stand by) ??

Given the choice between the two, why the hell would most of the top players in the world pick a league that is less prestigious, where they make less money?

Absolute imbecile, lol. I can't believe your penny-sized brain convinced you into thinking that you actually roasted me, dumbshit.

Another drooling retard that thinks NBA salaries are not gross income and that NBA players actually keep all of the money listed and don't have to pay taxes, or union fees, or agent fees, or player retirement fund fees..............

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

CRACK IS A HELL OF A DRUG

[Euroleague]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You say that like it's not a big deal. Like there's not a Grand Canyon sized gap between LeBron and Diamantidis as players. LeBron is the best player in the world. Even if Diamantidis is the best Euroleague player, or a top 5-10 Euroleague player, he's nowhere near LeBron's level.

Diamantidis is probably like the 6th best player on Panathinaikos idiot.

Once again, you are too dumb to comprehend anything that requires any logic or critical thinking.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Top-10 Euroleague players = D-League journeymen.

[Euroleague]

Top-10 Euroleague players = D-League journeymen.

Guess that means the D-League is also better than the NBA.

Great, so we can officially put the NBA lower than the D-League as well.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

NBA > NCAA/D-League > HS > Euroleague

Agreed.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Another drooling retard that thinks NBA salaries are not gross income and that NBA players actually keep all of the money listed and don't have to pay taxes, or union fees, or agent fees, or player retirement fund fees..............

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

CRACK IS A HELL OF A DRUG

They'd only have to keep a FRACTION of it to be paid more than Euroleague players :roll: :roll:

Jeez, youre an idiot, Greeks suck at basketball, and the NBA is 10x better than Euroleague -- sorry, listing things that everybody already knows, I'll stop with the obvious statements.

[bdreason]

Real Madrid's Final MVP was fukcing Andres Nocioni. Hot on his tail for the award were 3 other NBA rejects; Gustavo Ayon, Sergio Rodriguez, and Rudy Fernandez. :oldlol:


In the final, the legend that is Vassilis Spanoulis, managed to score 3 points, despite playing more minutes than anyone else in the game. :facepalm

[dude77]

Real Madrid's Final MVP was fukcing Andres Nocioni. Hot on his tail for the award were 3 other NBA rejects; Gustavo Ayon, Sergio Rodriguez, and Rudy Fernandez. :oldlol:


In the final, the legend that is Vassilis Spanoulis, managed to score 3 points, despite playing more minutes than anyone else in the game. :facepalm

team ball .. fk individual accolades .. team spain took the best the u.s. has to offer down to the wire in the olympics title game .. that was just team spain .. not the best of europe/overseas .. so to say certain overseas teams can't compete with nba teams is just being disingenuous and arrogant for no reason

[T_L_P]

Guess that means the D-League is also better than the NBA.

Great, so we can officially put the NBA lower than the D-League as well.

Madrid vs NBA: 1-5, point diff. of -15. :oldlol:

[Psileas]

Real Madrid's Final MVP was fukcing Andres Nocioni. Hot on his tail for the award were 3 other NBA rejects; Gustavo Ayon, Sergio Rodriguez, and Rudy Fernandez. :oldlol:


In the final, the legend that is Vassilis Spanoulis, managed to score 3 points, despite playing more minutes than anyone else in the game. :facepalm

Every single time USA teams have lost to International teams, they have lost to teams consisting, at best, of a few decent NBA players and more NBA rejects and non-NBA players. Meaning that if you want to make the argument that a Euroleague team is "definitely" not going to beat an NBA team in an individual game (as Final 4 games are), and on FIBA rules, you'll need to use way better arguments than how the Euroleague players performed in the NBA...

[Euroleague]

Every single time USA teams have lost to International teams, they have lost to teams consisting, at best, of a few decent NBA players and more NBA rejects and non-NBA players. Meaning that if you want to make the argument that a Euroleague team is "definitely" not going to beat an NBA team in an individual game (as Final 4 games are), and on FIBA rules, you'll need to use way better arguments than how the Euroleague players performed in the NBA...

He would have to have an IQ higher than 65 to be able to do so. He does not have that.

[Euroleague]

http://www.eurohoops.net/2015/06/featured/103219

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