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PP34Deuce
06-08-2015, 11:34 AM
While Blatt has brain farts in management, he is Thibs like in strategy. Both he and Kerr have been playing chess match with each other.

Hack s Thompson worked momentarily until Blatt realized to not bait into leaving him out there.

Blatt realizes Curry is the weak link defensively and they exploit match up.

Kerr wants to get mis-matches and Blatt realizing this, has refused to cater to that.

Can you guys give some examples of how each guy has been utilizing strategy?

plowking
06-08-2015, 11:37 AM
I haven't been tracking Bogut's free throw shooting lately, but any time a game is getting out of hand, or the Warriors are cutting into their lead, just do hack a Bogut...

With him off the floor it opens up so much room for Bron to get to the ring, and forces Draymond to play closer to the ring.

SilkkTheShocker
06-08-2015, 11:38 AM
Blatt wants GS's guard to put the ball on floor and take it to the rim. Neither Thompson or Curry can consistently be relied upon to that unless J.R. Smith is guarding them. The Warriors haven't looked comfortable all series. It's going to take more ref-rigging and fluke shooting games from Igoudala to keep them in this series

Foster5k
06-08-2015, 11:40 AM
Yeah, one is playing with the King and the other with the Queen.

PP34Deuce
06-08-2015, 11:49 AM
Blatt wants GS's guard to put the ball on floor and take it to the rim. Neither Thompson or Curry can consistently be relied upon to that unless J.R. Smith is guarding them. The Warriors haven't looked comfortable all series. It's going to take more ref-rigging and fluke shooting games from Igoudala to keep them in this series

Blatt seems to be ok with contested layups right now over the 3. He is literally telling those guys to not allow even a contested 3 from Klay or Steph.

He also is forcing Curry to be more of a PG. Curry lacks the strength to finish in traffic consistently.

imnew09
06-08-2015, 11:54 AM
From the 2 games so far, I think their defensive plans are the following

Kerr plan: Let Lebron get his

Blatt: Double/triple Curry if Necessary because Curry is their main offensive facilitator.

I feel like Kerr should utilize his bench more because they have a deep roster. Use this as an advantage and let the starters freshen up alittle more.

Cavs can hardly do that because their bench players are mostly old veterans with injuries

Sakkreth
06-08-2015, 11:57 AM
From the 2 games so far, I think their defensive plans are the following

Kerr plan: Let Lebron get his

Blatt: Double/triple Curry if Necessary because Curry is their main offensive facilitator.

If you throw multiple bodies at Curry he's shook, if you do that to LeBron he needles a pass for open three.

PP34Deuce
06-08-2015, 11:59 AM
From the 2 games so far, I think their defensive plans are the following

Kerr plan: Let Lebron get his

Blatt: Double/triple Curry if Necessary because Curry is their main offensive facilitator.

Game 2 saw Kerr hard doubling Lebron once he got deep in the post. Kerr seemed to take Lebron much more serious which resulted in better ball movement for Cleveland.

Lebron seemed to make quicker decisions with the ball before the double came.

Blatt is daring Curry and Klay to drive to the basket. He is refusing to give up even a contested 3.

DukeDelonte13
06-08-2015, 12:01 PM
Game 2 saw Kerr hard doubling Lebron once he got deep in the post. Kerr seemed to take Lebron much more serious which resulted in better ball movement for Cleveland.

Lebron seemed to make quicker decisions with the ball before the double came.

Blatt is daring Curry and Klay to drive to the basket. He is refusing to give up even a contested 3.


Yup. Klay did a lot of damage on midrange jumpers last night. I'll take that all day.

Take away what GSW is great at. Force them to play a style that doesn't cater to their ungodly 3 point shooting.

3ball
06-08-2015, 12:06 PM
give examples of how each team has been utilizing strategy



Blatt isolates Lebron on strongside against 1 defender by putting the other 4 offensive players behind 3-point line on weakside.. And like ALL teams in today's game, GS is helpless to counter the weakside spacing that allows this type of pure, 100% isolation on the strongside (1-defender strongside):


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There is no counter to the 1-defender strongside - if MJ played today, there would be nothing preventing him from isolating against a 1-defender strongside on EVERY PLAY..

In Lebron's case, he isolates the most often of any player in the entire league, despite having low isolation efficiency stats.. In regular season, Lebron ranked only 78th out of 350 in isolation PPP, while his FG% ranked 117th out of 350.. In the playoffs, Lebron is 35th out of 40 in isolation PPP, and 30th out of 40 in FG%.

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1&sort=Time&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs

If Lebron can isolate more often than anyone else and find team success despite such low efficiency stats, what impact would MJ's league-leading isolation efficiency have?
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ISHGoat
06-08-2015, 12:10 PM
Was playing delly on klay letting him go for like 20 in the first half part of blatt's "chess game"?

Klay was literally getting the ball down the court every time and just shooting over delly. He must have had so much confidence every time he saw that midget aussie guarding him lol

PP34Deuce
06-08-2015, 12:14 PM
Was playing delly on klay letting him go for like 20 in the first half part of blatt's "chess game"?

Klay was literally getting the ball down the court every time and just shooting over delly. He must have had so much confidence every time he saw that midget aussie guarding him lol

Klay did a lot of damage from midrange and once Shumpert locked on him, he didn't have the muscle to effectively score on Shumpert.

I see Kerr trying to create mismatches in offensive sets and Blatt and Lue instructing players to stay home on curry and Klay.

ISHGoat
06-08-2015, 12:16 PM
Klay did a lot of damage from midrange and once Shumpert locked on him, he didn't have the muscle to effectively score on Shumpert.

I see Kerr trying to create mismatches in offensive sets and Blatt and Lue instructing players to stay home on curry and Klay.

I think cavs would have won quite convincingly if delly was on curry and shumpert on klay from the start

navy
06-08-2015, 01:40 PM
I haven't been tracking Bogut's free throw shooting lately, but any time a game is getting out of hand, or the Warriors are cutting into their lead, just do hack a Bogut...

With him off the floor it opens up so much room for Bron to get to the ring, and forces Draymond to play closer to the ring.
In theory, but mosgov cant play with bogut out and he's been great and tt is hurting the offense.

navy
06-08-2015, 01:42 PM
I think cavs would have won quite convincingly if delly was on curry and shumpert on klay from the start
that is how they started.

HurricaneKid
06-08-2015, 02:01 PM
In G1 LeBron just ISO'd with GSW providing substantial strong side help from Bogut. Blatt knew this was coming and even early in the 1st you saw Mozzy cut to the basket behind him. Mozzy got 4 dunks on similar plays and that role expanded in G2 where Mozzy repeatedly found holes behind the frontside help. Eventually GSW adjusted and began forcing the backside help to pickup Mozzy. Thats when LeBron threw that majestic Xcourt pass to Iman for the 3. In G2 the ISO evolved to a PnR to get crossmatches and to move the bigs around, but the fundamentals stayed the same, they just had better advantages for the ISO action.

GSW are switching 2-4 (and actually 2-5 quite a bit as Dray has been enlisted to play C quite a bit) as Dray/Iggy/Klay/Barnes are all capable defenders. But they won't let Steph switch onto LeBron so they trap Steph/Iggy (or whoever else is guarding LBJ). So LBJ continues to slide to the pick side forcing the double team to occur 15 ft from the original pick. This leaves the pick man open for 3. Both Delly and Iman hit 3s in the 4th off this action.

Blatt has been playing chess to be sure. He has continued to pound the weak link in Golden State's defense (largely Curry) which played a role in his poor offensive output. But Kerr has just been reacting to Blatt. He has underwhelmed.

Blatt and the Cavs staff have been crushing the GSW coaching staff.

3ball
06-08-2015, 02:22 PM
In G1 LeBron just ISO'd with GSW providing substantial strong side help from Bogut. Blatt knew this was coming and even early in the 1st you saw Mozzy cut to the basket behind him. Mozzy got 4 dunks on similar plays and that role expanded in G2 where Mozzy repeatedly found holes behind the frontside help. Eventually GSW adjusted and began forcing the backside help to pickup Mozzy. Thats when LeBron threw that majestic Xcourt pass to Iman for the 3. In G2 the ISO evolved to a PnR to get crossmatches and to move the bigs around, but the fundamentals stayed the same, they just had better advantages for the ISO action.

GSW are switching 2-4 (and actually 2-5 quite a bit as Dray has been enlisted to play C quite a bit) as Dray/Iggy/Klay/Barnes are all capable defenders. But they won't let Steph switch onto LeBron so they trap Steph/Iggy (or whoever else is guarding LBJ). So LBJ continues to slide to the pick side forcing the double team to occur 15 ft from the original pick. This leaves the pick man open for 3. Both Delly and Iman hit 3s in the 4th off this action.

Blatt has been playing chess to be sure. He has continued to pound the weak link in Golden State's defense (largely Curry) which played a role in his poor offensive output. But Kerr has just been reacting to Blatt. He has underwhelmed.

Blatt and the Cavs staff have been crushing the GSW coaching staff.
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All true.. Blatt is outcoaching Kerr - but Kerr just needs to focus on unleashing his team's offense.. Keep everything the same defensively.

HurricaneKid
06-08-2015, 02:29 PM
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All true.. Blatt is outcoaching Kerr - but Kerr just needs to focus on unleashing his team's offense.. Keep everything the same defensively.

Delly/Shump/JR/LBJ/TT has been remarkably good at limiting clean looks for GS to this point. Having LeBron run the entire offense has allowed the other 4 guys to reserve the bulk of their energies for defense. In some cases even put in inferior offensive players for their defense.

This Cavs squad with what they have left is a REALLY good defensive team. If Shump tweeks his groin, or Delly rolls an ankle the floodgates will open. Until then, I'm not sure they will.

PP34Deuce
06-08-2015, 02:42 PM
In G1 LeBron just ISO'd with GSW providing substantial strong side help from Bogut. Blatt knew this was coming and even early in the 1st you saw Mozzy cut to the basket behind him. Mozzy got 4 dunks on similar plays and that role expanded in G2 where Mozzy repeatedly found holes behind the frontside help. Eventually GSW adjusted and began forcing the backside help to pickup Mozzy. Thats when LeBron threw that majestic Xcourt pass to Iman for the 3. In G2 the ISO evolved to a PnR to get crossmatches and to move the bigs around, but the fundamentals stayed the same, they just had better advantages for the ISO action.

GSW are switching 2-4 (and actually 2-5 quite a bit as Dray has been enlisted to play C quite a bit) as Dray/Iggy/Klay/Barnes are all capable defenders. But they won't let Steph switch onto LeBron so they trap Steph/Iggy (or whoever else is guarding LBJ). So LBJ continues to slide to the pick side forcing the double team to occur 15 ft from the original pick. This leaves the pick man open for 3. Both Delly and Iman hit 3s in the 4th off this action.

Blatt has been playing chess to be sure. He has continued to pound the weak link in Golden State's defense (largely Curry) which played a role in his poor offensive output. But Kerr has just been reacting to Blatt. He has underwhelmed.

Blatt and the Cavs staff have been crushing the GSW coaching staff.

Amazing analysis man. I definitely think Blatt and Lue have outcoached Kerr and Gentry. I like how quickly Blatt adjusts. When they did hack a Tristan, he realized he had to get him out the game and James jones was able to keep GSW honest due to his 3 point threat.

I believe Marion can play 8-10 minutes. He's older but you dont forget how to rebound and play D like he can.

HurricaneKid
06-08-2015, 04:33 PM
Amazing analysis man. I definitely think Blatt and Lue have outcoached Kerr and Gentry. I like how quickly Blatt adjusts. When they did hack a Tristan, he realized he had to get him out the game and James jones was able to keep GSW honest due to his 3 point threat.

I believe Marion can play 8-10 minutes. He's older but you dont forget how to rebound and play D like he can.

I'm fascinated by the Marion disappearing act. He started 76 games last year. Yet he hasn't played 7min in any playoff game this postseason. I think it is an issue of a lack of spacing; Golden State could play the Bogut on Marion card and clog up the middle. The last 3 he hit was January 4th.

navy
06-08-2015, 04:42 PM
I'm fascinated by the Marion disappearing act. He started 76 games last year. Yet he hasn't played 7min in any playoff game this postseason. I think it is an issue of a lack of spacing; Golden State could play the Bogut on Marion card and clog up the middle. The last 3 he hit was January 4th.
He's retiring.

lakerHater
06-08-2015, 09:14 PM
Chess match??
Both coaches sucking!

Could be a chess match on whos sucks more!