Lebron game logs from his 1st NBA finals

[sundizz]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).

[J Shuttlesworth]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.

[LAZERUSS]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).

Give us a list of his supporting cast, and while you are at, how about the team that he faced, as well.

[Lebron23]

Lebron was 22 yrs.old while Curry is 27 yrs.old. And he has a much better supporting casts than 2007 and 2015 Cavaliers.

2007 Spurs > 2015 Cavaliers who were devastated by injuries.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Give us a list of his supporting cast, and while you are at, how about the team that he faced, as well.
07 Spurs were ranked as the 11th best finals cast in the last 30 years vs. the 2nd worst in the 07 Cavs.

For this year, 15 Cavs are the third worst in the last 30 years while the Dubs are the 14th best. There is no reason why this series should be competitive right now considering how depleted Cleveland is.

And I think 15 Cavs being the third worst was still factoring in Kyrie's +/- since the rankings were done before Kyrie was declared out for the season.

[inclinerator]

insane how 2011 lebron was still younger than curry

[LAZERUSS]

07 Spurs were ranked as the 11th best finals cast in the last 30 years vs. the 2nd worst in the 07 Cavs.

For this year, 15 Cavs are the third worst in the last 30 years while the Dubs are the 14th best. There is no reason why this series should be competitive right now considering how depleted Cleveland is.

And I think 15 Cavs being the third worst was still factoring in Kyrie's +/- since the rankings were done before Kyrie was declared out for the season.

Aside from his '11 Finals, Lebron has played well. Even in the '07 Finals, he did all he could and against insurmountable odds.

So far in this year's Finals...he has been brilliant.

But, I would temper that with the fact that this series is tied 1-1. I suspect it is about to become one-sided.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Aside from his '11 Finals, Lebron has played well. Even in the '07 Finals, he did all he could and against insurmountable odds.

So far in this year's Finals...he has been brilliant.

But, I would temper that with the fact that this series is tied 1-1. I suspect it is about to become one-sided.
It's hard to imagine that Curry will shoot that poor again, but it's also hard to imagine Klay will have another game that good... but he could. I'm really hoping that the Cavs role players will step up at home. JR is pretty good in cleveland, same with shump. I fear the fatigue though... LeBron playing 50 minutes last game, only day of rest. This will be a giant test to his athleticism.

[LAZERUSS]

It's hard to imagine that Curry will shoot that poor again, but it's also hard to imagine Klay will have another game that good... but he could. I'm really hoping that the Cavs role players will step up at home. JR is pretty good in cleveland, same with shump. I fear the fatigue though... LeBron playing 50 minutes last game, only day of rest. This will be a giant test to his athleticism.


I personally think the Cavs lost the series in game one. Had they been able to hold on, and would now have a 2-0 series lead...and playing two at home (even with Kyrie), and I think we would have been in for a seven game series.

I just don't think that will happen now.

Having said that, though, I never make any predictions. I have seen too many "miracles" in my lifetime.

[julizaver]

I personally think the Cavs lost the series in game one. Had they been able to hold on, and would now have a 2-0 series lead...and playing two at home (even with Kyrie), and I think we would have been in for a seven game series.

I just don't think that will happen now.

Having said that, though, I never make any predictions. I have seen too many "miracles" in my lifetime.

Even if Cavs lost, it woud not change the fact that Lebron is still the best player in the league. Game 3 will be the crucial game for me. Had Cavs won it "The Miracle" could happen.

And I really agree with that aside from 2011 Finals Lebron doesn't deserve the blame and labels "choker", "loser". Nowadays he had the perfect opportunity to wash out all the bad memories from the past.

[Droid101]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.
lol

[buddha]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.

Shaun Livingston / LeAndro Barbosa
Klay Thompson / Brandon Rush
Harrison Barnes / Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green / David Lee
Andrew Bogut / Mareese Speights / Festus Ezeli

is a pretty mediocre team without a superstar. they have an all-star and some good role players but that's it.

[JebronLames]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).
Dirk was the MVP that year. :roll:

[warriorfan]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).

Ether

[Inferno]

insane how 2011 lebron was still younger than curry

:coleman: Probably right around the same age, I'm thinking...

[coin24]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.


How are the warriors one of the best teams ever? Cause they have certainly looked like shit in the first 2 games..

I guess you bran dickslurpers have to prop them up so high in case the cavs lose..

[J Shuttlesworth]

How are the warriors one of the best teams ever? Cause they have certainly looked like shit in the first 2 games..

I guess you bran dickslurpers have to prop them up so high in case the cavs lose..
So 67 wins and only losing three games in the almighty west isn't impressive?

[plowking]

How are the warriors one of the best teams ever? Cause they have certainly looked like shit in the first 2 games..

I guess you bran dickslurpers have to prop them up so high in case the cavs lose..

It almost appears as if teams these days are judged by how well they perform against Bron, and only Bron. :oldlol:

They demolished everyone before them in the playoffs prior to this, and they won 67 games over the course of a season. Stats and margin of winning suggest they are one of the greatest teams ever as well.

What is the rest of the basketball world missing excluding fans that clearly have a thing against Bron? By all objective means and stats, they are one of the best ever.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It almost appears as if teams these days are judged by how well they perform against Bron, and only Bron. :oldlol:

They demolished everyone before them in the playoffs prior to this, and they won 67 games over the course of a season. Stats and margin of winning suggest they are one of the greatest teams ever as well.

What is the rest of the basketball world missing excluding fans that clearly have a thing against Bron? By all objective means and stats, they are one of the best ever.
Two weeks ago they were being talked about as as possible top 5 GOAT season+playoff run.

Now that LeBron has a chance to beat them, people are trying to downplay them :roll:

Although not everyone. I've actually seen a lot of Kobe stans come out and say that this would be an epic feat if LeBron can beat this team

[imnew09]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.


Man you be like Ray Allen 3 point shot today, Ws everywhere :applause:

[nzahir]

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.

Shaun Livingston / LeAndro Barbosa
Klay Thompson / Brandon Rush
Harrison Barnes / Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green / David Lee
Andrew Bogut / Mareese Speights / Festus Ezeli

is a pretty mediocre team without a superstar. they have an all-star and some good role players but that's it.
Cavs RN without lebron is the worst team is the league

[Fudge]

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.

Shaun Livingston / LeAndro Barbosa
Klay Thompson / Brandon Rush
Harrison Barnes / Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green / David Lee
Andrew Bogut / Mareese Speights / Festus Ezeli

is a pretty mediocre team without a superstar. they have an all-star and some good role players but that's it.
What? Their whole team is comprised of GREAT role players -- even the ones that don't get a lick of playing time. Rush, Ezeli, Lee, (even Barbosa earlier on in the year) would be significant rotational players on every other team, and they're rotting on the GSW bench.

So outside of Curry, their core consists of 1 all-star (Klay), 3 great role players (Livingston, Iguodala, Barnes) and 2 DPOY candidates (Green, Bogut) AND I didn't even mention Speights and Barbosa.

That's a top 3-4 team in the East, and a 6-8 seed in the West.

They're stacked as f*ck, whether you like it or not.

[plowking]

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.



So they're a 50 win team in the West? :oldlol:

Compared to the Cavs, a 53 win team in the weak East, when you factor in Kyrie and Love playing, which now they are not.

[coin24]

Weak era for best teams:oldlol:

[Alamо]

Dirk was the MVP that year. :roll:



Nash.. Dirk.. potato, tomato :rolleyes:

[JerrySeinfeld]

everyone continues to hate on LeBron's supporting cast that year, but if LeBron plays good then that series is going to at least 6.

it was a combination of a weak supporting cast but also his own play played a large part as well.

[warriorfan]

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.

Shaun Livingston / LeAndro Barbosa
Klay Thompson / Brandon Rush
Harrison Barnes / Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green / David Lee
Andrew Bogut / Mareese Speights / Festus Ezeli

is a pretty mediocre team without a superstar. they have an all-star and some good role players but that's it.

this ether be leaving bran stans shook

[warriorfan]

What? Their whole team is comprised of GREAT role players -- even the ones that don't get a lick of playing time. Rush, Ezeli, Lee, (even Barbosa earlier on in the year) would be significant rotational players on every other team, and they're rotting on the GSW bench.

So outside of Curry, their core consists of 1 all-star (Klay), 3 great role players (Livingston, Iguodala, Barnes) and 2 DPOY candidates (Green, Bogut) AND I didn't even mention Speights and Barbosa.

That's a top 3-4 team in the East, and a 6-8 seed in the West.

They're stacked as f*ck, whether you like it or not.


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nice basketball analysis simon


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stay not knowing shit about basketball
stay losing

[Dresta]

Well you're comparing a guy with the worst finals cast in history to a guy with arguably one of the best.
And yet several of those games were close, and if Bron didn't play like complete ass then they would have had a chance, and certainly not embarrassed so disgracefully.

[r15mohd]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).


off-topic...but I wonder if there's reason to 3ball never really references this Finals on his "more-shots" rants when comparing Lebron, and this years Cavs success to last years Heat being blown out. :confusedshrug:

i mean, 3ball enforces more shots as the aggressive factor to his premisce (winning)...which Lebron did in 2007, and much of the same again now (albeit Lebron is driving to the rim more). ironic at the least :rolleyes:


back on topic now...OP is an idiot for the blanket suggestion of his post. as others mentioned, Lebron didn't have a player remotely close to Klay...and not even capable of doing what Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green provide for the Warriors, and even Bogut much of this post-season. :no:

[SilkkTheShocker]

this ether be leaving bran stans shook

1-1.

Warriors fans shouldn't talking s.hit at all

[Ne 1]

LeBron actually had a great chance to live up to the hype and win a ring in 2007. People forget that the Spurs should have lost in the WCSF that year but were saved only by Cheap Shot Rob and David Stern. Against this opponent the Cavs were competitive.

Game 1: SAS 85, CLE 76. Lebron 4 for 16 (25%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 2: SAS 103, CLE 92. Lebron 9 for 21 (43%) and 6 turnovers.
Game 3: SAS 75, CLE 72. Lebron 9 for 23 (39%) and 5 turnovers.
Game 4: SAS 83, CLE 82 Lebron 10 for 30 (33%) and 6 turnovers.

If LeBron would have showed up, the Cavs could have won that series or at the very least it would have been a lot more competitive than a sweep. It easily would have been 2-2 going to Cleveland for game 5 and perhaps even 3-1 if the "GOAT" LeBron showed up. Pop had Bruce Bowen sag off LeBron about 30 feet and basically dared him to shoot open jumpers and he did nothing about it because he had no midrange game. Yeah, he was 22, but he was physically the most NBA ready player ever to come out of high school. If you want you can chalk it up to him being inexperienced and still learning the playoff ropes ala Durant 2012 if you want or whatever. But the fact is that while he averaged 22/7/7, he shot 35% from the field, 20% on 3's and 69% from the line while averaging 6 turnovers per game and on 23 shots per game. That is horrendous for a player of James' caliber who was a top 3-5 player that year. He just got exposed as a terrible shooter. Also please spare me the supporting cast exuse because they were good enough to get him past the Pistons and as we seen in games 3 and 4 vs the Spurs were very close games.

[k0kakw0rld]

For all those talking smack about how bad Curry is/was let's take a look at how Lebron did in his first NBA finals:

Game 1: 4/16 for 14 points, 4 assist, 7 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 2: 9/21 for 25 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 6 turnovers
Game 3: 9/23 for 25 points, 8 rebounds, 7 dimes, 5 turnovers
Game 4: 10/30 for 24 points, 6 rebounds, 10 dimes, 6 turnovers

I'm pretty sure AMC will do better than that this series. Oh, also Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting that year (2nd to Nash).
You are an idiot! LeBron went to the finals with Daniel Gibson facing Prime Spurs. :facepalm

[Yao Ming's Foot]

You are an idiot! LeBron went to the finals BECAUSE OF Daniel Gibson facing Prime Spurs. :facepalm

Fixed that for you.

Game 6 ECF

Sidekick Lebron James 3 for 11 and 20 points
Daniel Gibson 7 for 9 and 31 points.

:confusedshrug:

[LikeABosh]

Lebron was much younger, pathetic supporting cast, going against an all time great dynasty. Curry has a stacked team going against Lebron and scrubs.

[Ne 1]

You are an idiot! LeBron went to the finals with Daniel Gibson facing Prime Spurs. :facepalm

Well Game 5 was all LeBron, that performance was phenomenal and is about as close as a player can come to winning a game by himself, but what about the other games? The Cavs defense shut down the Pistons to 86 ppg for the series after 96 ppg in the season. A 10 ppg decrease. People ignore that the Cavs were an elite defensive and rebounding team, and this was 2007 when LeBron didn't play defense consistently.

Game 1 - LeBron 10 pts on 33%, Cavs only lost by 3.

Game 2 - LeBron 19 pts on 37%, 6 assist to 7 turnovers, Cavs only lost by 3

Game 3: LeBron carried the load with 32/9/9, but a big key was also Cleveland's defense holding Detroit to 82 points, funny how people often ignore that and act like basketball is just one side of the basketball, defense is half of the game after all. So with Cleveland's defense doing such a great job, LeBron didn't need that much offensive support, having 3 teammates in double figures (Big Z- 16, Pavlovic- 13, Gooden- 12) was more than enough.

Game 4: LeBron had 25/7/11, but again, Cleveland held Detroit to just 87 points and Daniel Gibson scored 21 points on great efficiency (4/7 from the field, 12/12 from the line) and Gooden also had 19/8.

Game 6 - LeBron had another good all-around game with 20/14/8 but on 27% shotting (3/11 FG, 14/19 FT), but again Cleveland's defense shut down Detroit. The Pistons scored just 82 points on 36% shooting and Daniel Gibson led all scorers with 31 points on amazing efficiency (7/9 FG, 5/5 3P, 12/15 FT). Gibson drops 31-6-2 on 78%, and Cavs shut down Pistons to 82 points to send them to the Finals


Now let's take a look at the Finals, as I pointed out in my other post LeBron had an opportunity to at least make the series more competitive instead of getting swept and maybe even win a ring. It would have easily been 2-2 going to Cleveland for Game 5 and possibly even 3-1 if the self proclaimed "king" would have showed up.

The Spurs averaged 98.5 ppg in regular season, Cavs defense held them to 86.5 ppg. Spurs had a 12 ppg decrease against Cavs defense.

- Cavs defense hold Duncan to 45% shooting after 55% in regular season.
- Game 1 - LeBron 14 pts on 25% shooting, 7 rebs and 4 assist to 6 turnovers. Cavs only lose by 9
- Game 3 - Lebron 25 pts on 39%, 7 ast to 5 turnovers. Cavs only lose by 3 as LeBron missed the game-tying 3
- Game 4 - 24 pts on 30 shots (33% shooting), 10 ast to 6 turnovers. Cavs only lose by 1 as Lebron goes 2/6 from the FT line and the Spurs win the championship.

[chips93]

Game 3: LeBron carried the load with 32/9/9, but a big key was also Cleveland's defense holding Detroit to 82 points, funny how people often ignore that and act like basketball is just one side of the basketball, defense is half of the game after all. So with Cleveland's defense doing such a great job, LeBron didn't need that much offensive support, having 3 teammates in double figures (Big Z- 16, Pavlovic- 13, Gooden- 12) was more than enough.


funny how you always forget whichever parts of the game lebron contributed on

[Fudge]

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nice basketball analysis simon


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stay not knowing shit about basketball
stay losing
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You know i'm right, baby boy.

[tomtucker]

[B]here ....i found lebron

[Springsteen]

Warriors without Curry are an 8th seed team.

Shaun Livingston / LeAndro Barbosa
Klay Thompson / Brandon Rush
Harrison Barnes / Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green / David Lee
Andrew Bogut / Mareese Speights / Festus Ezeli

is a pretty mediocre team without a superstar. they have an all-star and some good role players but that's it.

Curry is already an all-time great shooter in my books, but if you don't think this team with a solid point guard (i.e.: Dragic) replacing Curry wouldn't at least be a middle of the standings Western conference team, you'd be wrong.

They have freaking Iguodala coming off the BENCH. :yaohappy:

[riseagainst]

[QUOTE=tomtucker][B]here ....i found lebron