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Dro
06-09-2015, 05:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13042750/2015-nba-finals-league-admits-missed-calls-end-game-2

The grades are in, and the NBA admits that the referees didn't get it right on a few key plays at the end of Game 2 of the NBA Finals.

According to the NBA, referees Zach Zarba, Scott Foster and Tony Brothers missed some calls during the last two minutes of the Cleveland Cavaliers' 95-93 victory over the Golden State Warriors on Sunday. The best-of-seven series is tied at a game apiece.
The NBA said that Andre Iguodala made contact with LeBron James' arm during overtime, but that James had traveled prior to taking the shot. Referees didn't call either infraction. Kyle Terada/USA TODAY Sports

"I saw it. I'm not going to talk about that, obviously," Cavaliers coach David Blatt said Tuesday. "The NBA is doing their work and their homework, and very qualified people are in charge of handling those issues. I'm going to let them handle it."

With 1:37 remaining in overtime, the NBA said the Warriors' Andre Iguodala wasn't called for making contact with LeBron James' arm on a shot attempt as the 24-second shot clock expired. However, the league also admitted Monday that James had moved his pivot foot before the shot attempt and should have been called for traveling before the contact was made.

Another missed call came with 45 seconds remaining in the game, as the NBA said that the Warriors' Draymond Green should have been called for grabbing James' shoulder and impeding James' ability to jump during the jump ball situation.

"I know what happened throughout the course of the game, so nothing really goes through my mind [when hearing about the review]," James said Tuesday. "There's nothing they can do about it at that point. It is what it is, and you just move on from it.

"I'm happy that we was able to come through with the win. That's the only thing that matters."

That wasn't the only instance of the referees missing Green doing that, either. The NBA admitted Green also should have been called for making contact with Tristan Thompson's arm, thus affecting Thompson's ability to control the ball, during the opening tip of overtime.

Blatt also was unhappy with the Warriors' tactic of fouling Thompson at the end of Game 2.

"That's a tactic that's been used and is becoming more and more prevalent in the game. And hopefully this summer the whole idea will be readdressed and reconsidered," Blatt said. "But for now, the rules are as they are, and that's a tactic.

"We are always thinking of what's our best lineup on the court at any given time and considering the possibilities of what tactic can be employed. We'll deal with it as it comes."

Danny Crawford, Marc Davis and Derrick Stafford will be the referees for Game 3 on Tuesday night (ABC, 9 p.m. ET) as the series shifts to Cleveland.

sd3035
06-09-2015, 05:44 PM
so, basically they only admit it when the missed call shouldn't exist due to another missed call :lol

If Lebald had either scored or not traveled and missed, the NBA wouldn't say shit

TheReal Kendall
06-09-2015, 05:46 PM
On that Iggy play I don't see how you can call a foul on him because Bron travelled first.

I feel like the refs should get fined for missed or bad calls. I think this will make the refs tighten up

sd3035
06-09-2015, 05:47 PM
Did they comment on when Lebald was just sauntering up the floor in the backcourt while forgetting to dribble? Dude looked like he was strolling through the park and the ball was a picnic basket

Dro
06-09-2015, 05:49 PM
On that Iggy play I don't see how you can call a foul on him because Bron travelled first.

I feel like the refs should get fined for missed or bad calls. I think this will make the refs tighten up
I agree, it as an obvious foul be he also clearly traveled before that so I don't really have a problem with them missing the foul. Warriors got the ball anyway, proceeded to immediately turn it over, but Cleveland didn't make them pay for it on that possession so it all worked out.

The Draymond Green stuff has to stop though. Pulling people down on jump balls is not only illegal but its also dangerous....

Velocirap31
06-09-2015, 05:50 PM
Did they comment on when Lebald was just sauntering up the floor in the backcourt while forgetting to dribble? Dude looked like he was strolling through the park and the ball was a picnic basket

I think it's more important to look at plays that affect the game, like missed shooting fouls at the end of regulation and during OT.

sd3035
06-09-2015, 05:53 PM
I think it's more important to look at plays that affect the game, like missed shooting fouls at the end of regulation and during OT.


So, it's ok to rig the Game for the first 45 minutes?

TheReal Kendall
06-09-2015, 05:57 PM
I agree, it as an obvious foul be he also clearly traveled before that so I don't really have a problem with them missing the foul. Warriors got the ball anyway, proceeded to immediately turn it over, but Cleveland didn't make them pay for it on that possession so it all worked out.

The Draymond Green stuff has to stop though. Pulling people down on jump balls is not only illegal but its also dangerous....

Yeah the Green play was bad. They should've redid the jump ball or gave Green a foul.

The refs have to be held accountable though. If I'm in a game and I see that I can get away with fouling a superstar player to stop him and the refs ignore I am gonna keep doing it until they make the call.

That's why the need to fine refs after stuff like this instead of making an apology.

G0ATbe
06-09-2015, 05:57 PM
Great, you already know refs gonna tear Warriors a new asshole in this game to make up for it now.:facepalm

aj1987
06-09-2015, 05:58 PM
So, it's ok to rig the Game for the first 45 minutes?
I'm assuming that you've been "watching" the game on ESPN's play-by-play?

J Shuttlesworth
06-09-2015, 05:58 PM
Yeah the Green play was bad. They should've redid the jump ball or gave Green a foul.

The refs have to be held accountable though. If I'm in a game and I see that I can get away with fouling a superstar player to stop him and the refs ignore I am gonna keep doing it until they make the call.

That's why the need to fine refs after stuff like this instead of making an apology.
Yep, Gaymond Queen did it on BOTH jump balls in OT too :facepalm

buddha
06-09-2015, 06:04 PM
Home teams are just 1-11 in the 2015 playoffs w/Scott Foster. Easily the worst W% for a single postseason since 2007.

Scott Foster be making some money this post season.

buddha
06-09-2015, 06:07 PM
Dan Crawford reffing for the Cavs tonight. if Curry doesn't start hitting threes Cavs are gonna win this game.

scm5
06-09-2015, 06:08 PM
Did the league address the putback dunk by livingston?

Ball was clearly out of the cylinder and it should have counted.

SexSymbol
06-09-2015, 06:09 PM
I hope they make so changes, GSW was trashed by the refs all night.

Dro
06-09-2015, 06:18 PM
Did the league address the putback dunk by livingston?

Ball was clearly out of the cylinder and it should have counted.
See, this play was strange to me. It was above the cylinder and it was obvious it was going to miss but I still thought it was in the cylinder. Like, it would have still hit the rim IMO even though it was obviously going to miss..Does that still count as "in the cylinder"? :confusedshrug:

scm5
06-09-2015, 06:25 PM
See, this play was strange to me. It was above the cylinder and it was obvious it was going to miss but I still thought it was in the cylinder. Like, it would have still hit the rim IMO even though it was obviously going to miss..Does that still count as "in the cylinder"? :confusedshrug:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25208145/watch-should-this-shaun-livingston-putback-have-counted

HurricaneKid
06-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Did the league address the putback dunk by livingston?

Ball was clearly out of the cylinder and it should have counted.

It was 100% the correct call. If any part of the ball in still in the cylinder it is a goaltend and it wasn't remotely close to being out.

ShackEelOKneel
06-09-2015, 06:59 PM
Did the league address the putback dunk by livingston?

Ball was clearly out of the cylinder and it should have counted.

This. It was the most blatant and egregious error the refs made all game.

Taller than CP3
06-09-2015, 07:00 PM
Not looking good for the Warriors.

Cavs getting home cooking these next 2 games!

Sucks for Klay, looks like he's fouling out tonight. :roll:

sd3035
06-09-2015, 07:02 PM
They conveniently left out the horrible call on Livingston

ShackEelOKneel
06-09-2015, 07:03 PM
It was 100% the correct call. If any part of the ball in still in the cylinder it is a goaltend and it wasn't remotely close to being out.

Not true.


c. For goaltending to occur, the ball, in the judgment of the official, must have a chance to score.

Source: http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_11.html?nav=articlelist

Once the center of the ball has left the rim, it clearly has 0 chance to score. This has also been consistently called since the goaltend rules were implemented.

JellyBean
06-09-2015, 07:05 PM
Did they comment on when Lebald was just sauntering up the floor in the backcourt while forgetting to dribble? Dude looked like he was strolling through the park and the ball was a picnic basket

You saw that too? I thought that I was drunk when I saw that happened.

kshutts1
06-10-2015, 08:16 AM
I really wish the league would address ALL the missed calls or NONE of them. Seems very ESPN-ish to "cherry pick" just a handful.