when kobe was up 2 wins on orlando in 2009. was he top 5 all time?

[kennethgriffin]

:lol

that was when he was half way to his first full legit title as leader without a legendary sidekick


just sayin


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anyone willing to answer this from the overreaction ISH community

[Inferno]

**** off

[JZ600]

The kobe kids are reaching hard:roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Lebron is not top 5 but he is moving up QUICKLY, win or lose this series.. The only player besides Lebron that could control the tempo in a series like this is Magic...

[kennethgriffin]

The kobe kids are reaching hard:roll:


first legit 2 victories in the finals and yall proclaiming top 5 rankings

yet i'm the one whos reaching

:lol

[LEFT4DEAD]

:lol

that was when he was half way to his first full legit title as leader without a legendary sidekick


just sayin


https://33.media.tumblr.com/39dc9062ab30e869ba414601a2887b86/tumblr_mpwgrjRasu1svi8iso1_400.gif


anyone willing to answer this from the overreaction ISH community
hmm lets see, what was his legacy prior to that finals? 3 sidekick rings, 0 fmvps and a just won mvp. yeah, he was borderline top 15-20 with that ring. sorry to disappoint you :cheers:

[Wavves]

Series isn't even over and Kobe stans are already having a meltdown :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Sumter15]

The Magic weren't a 67 win team in a historically strong conference. This comparison makes no sense.

[kennethgriffin]

hmm lets see, what was his legacy prior to that finals? 3 sidekick rings, 0 fmvps and a just won mvp. yeah, he was borderline top 15-20 with that ring. sorry to disappoint you :cheers:


kobes 2001 ring in a full season/no collude/no lockout/no ray allen saved shot/ averaging 29/7/6 in the GOAT run 15-1 playoffs

was better than either asterisk title lebron has

even 2002 was better than a lockout or bail out title with the heatles lol

[ArbitraryWater]

no, but he was already balls deep down your throat

[kennethgriffin]

The Magic weren't a 67 win team in a historically strong conference. This comparison makes no sense.

this warriors team is overrated as f*ck

:lol

regular season bubble gum team

[inclinerator]

averaging 33 5 5 thru 2

gasol

[LEFT4DEAD]

kobes 2001 ring in a full season/no collude/no lockout/no ray allen saved shot/ averaging 29/7/6 in the GOAT run 15-1 playoffs

was better than either asterisk title lebron has
yeah, keep telling yourself that...
sadly it wont make it true :oldlol:

[PJR]

Bran is about to make Kobe's entire career a footnote in history with this title.

Kobe stans meltdown will be epic.


















LeBron James.

[NBASTATMAN]

kobes 2001 ring in a full season/no collude/no lockout/no ray allen saved shot/ averaging 29/7/6 in the GOAT run 15-1 playoffs

was better than either asterisk title lebron has

even 2002 was better than a lockout or bail out title with the heatles lol

Dude you are reaching... ITS ONLY A GAME... Relax summer is here... Go out and have some fun manana... I am sure you will forget about bball... :rockon:

[pauk]

With 1 fmvp/the man championship and 1 mvp?

[kennethgriffin]

Bran is about to make Kobe's entire career a footnote in history with this title.

Kobe stans meltdown will be epic.


















LeBron James.



kobe has 2 titles like this ( assuming lebron wins another 2 games )

+ his other 3

footnotes lol


and kobes were from coming out the west

[JZ600]

first legit 2 victories in the finals and yall proclaiming top 5 rankings

yet i'm the one whos reaching

:lol
Everything will be okay big fella
Chin up and witness :)

[tmacattack33]

wut

[Sportal]

You mean when the Lakers were favourite?? And Kobe had Gasol? What were Gasol's numbers?

[kennethgriffin]

With 1 fmvp/the man championship and 1 mvp?


you mention mvps as if theyre still prestigious lol

iverson/nash/rose/curry ... shat.... on its history

redundant media garbage

[Magic 32]

Bran is about to make Kobe's entire career a footnote in history with this title.

Kobe stans meltdown will be epic.









LeBron James.


Has there ever been a more obvious "my dad could beat your dad" comment in ISH history?

This guy is bully material.

[kennethgriffin]

Everything will be okay big fella
Chin up and witness :)


only took lebron 12 years

:lol

hes finally gonna break his cherry

[Springsteen]

Warriors team against that Magic team. Who wins?

[LikeABosh]

Dat meltdown buildup. Looking forward to your meltdown the most Kenny boy.

[Inferno]

kobe has 2 titles like this ( assuming lebron wins another 2 games )

+ his other 3

footnotes lol


and kobes were from coming out the west

**** off :oldlol: Who's LeBron's second best teammate right now? Who was Kobe's?

[plowking]

Warriors team against that Magic team. Who wins?

Warriors in 3.

[Magic 32]

Dat meltdown buildup. Looking forward to your meltdown the most Kenny boy.

Surely more than the Cavs winning.

School must be horrific.

[PJR]

Footnote.

[kennethgriffin]

**** off :oldlol: Who's LeBron's second best teammate right now? Who was Kobe's?


team defense and rebounding are underrated ...

gasol can put up 20 points. but can he single handedly shut down an entire 67 win team?

[kennethgriffin]

Footnote.




you know even if lebron wins this title hes still in battles for top 9-10 with shaq... infact he might only pass hakeem for the 10 spot IMO

kobe is more top 5-6 with the other 5+ ring guys

:lol

[KiiiiNG]

lebron is almost averaging a 40 point triple double against the best d in the league

kobes second option: prime pau gasol

lebrons second option: matthew dellavedova/jr smith

nice.

[kennethgriffin]

assuming lebron wins


#1 russell - 11
#2 Jordan - 6
#3 Kareem - 6
#4 Kobe - 5
#5 Magic - 5
#6 Duncan - 4.5 ( lockout )
#7 Shaq - 4
#8 Bird - 3
#9 Lebron - 2.5 ( lockout )
#10 Wilt - 2



lebron might make the top 10 if he wins.. thats about it

[KingBeasley08]

Kobe stans reaching so far, holy shit :lol

[greymatter]

The Magic weren't a 67 win team in a historically strong conference. This comparison makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense when you take into account that you're arguing with an inbred Kobe-fellator.

[Inferno]

assuming lebron wins


#1 russell - 11
#2 Jordan - 6
#3 Kareem - 6
#4 Kobe - 5
#5 Magic - 5
#6 Duncan - 4.5 ( lockout )
#7 Shaq - 4
#8 Bird - 3
#9 Lebron - 2.5 ( lockout )
#10 Wilt - 2



lebron might make the top 10 if he wins.. thats about it

Kobe's dick is so far down your throat, holy :roll:

[PJR]

Footnote.

[plowking]

assuming lebron wins


#1 russell - 11
#2 Jordan - 6
#3 Kareem - 6
#4 Kobe - 5
#5 Magic - 5
#6 Duncan - 4.5 ( lockout )
#7 Shaq - 4
#8 Bird - 3
#9 Lebron - 2.5 ( lockout )
#10 Wilt - 2



lebron might make the top 10 if he wins.. thats about it

So insecure. :oldlol:

Bron has been better than Kobe on the all time list the last two years.

[kennethgriffin]

Footnote.


http://hodgespart.com/gong_images/donothink.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

So insecure. :oldlol:

Bron has been better than Kobe on the all time list the last two years.



http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players


not according to people

SportsNation Rankings

1.Michael Jordan

2.Magic Johnson

3.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4.Larry Bird

5.Wilt Chamberlain

6.Bill Russell

7.Kobe Bryant

8.LeBron James

9.Tim Duncan

10.Shaquille O'Neal

11.Oscar Robertson

12.Hakeem Olajuwon

13.Julius Erving

14.Jerry West

15.Karl Malone

16.Isiah Thomas

17.Moses Malone

18.Charles Barkley

19.John Stockton

20.Kevin Durant

21.Dirk Nowitzki

[Inferno]

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players


not according to people

SportsNation Rankings

1.Michael Jordan

2.Magic Johnson

3.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4.Larry Bird

5.Wilt Chamberlain

6.Bill Russell

7.Kobe Bryant

8.LeBron James

9.Tim Duncan

10.Shaquille O'Neal

11.Oscar Robertson

12.Hakeem Olajuwon

13.Julius Erving

14.Jerry West

15.Karl Malone

16.Isiah Thomas

17.Moses Malone

18.Charles Barkley

19.John Stockton

20.Kevin Durant

21.Dirk Nowitzki

Damn, if peoples' opinions matter so much, LeBron's 4 MVPs >>>>> Kobe's 1? :eek: :bowdown:

[kennethgriffin]

Damn, if peoples' opinions matter so much, LeBron's 4 MVPs >>>>> Kobe's 1? :eek: :bowdown:


the world in general > 100 or so select group of agenda driven media

if the mvp means as much as lebron fans say it does. whos the best player in the nba right now

[PJR]

footnote
[foo t-noht]
noun
1.
an explanatory or documenting note or comment at the bottom of a page, referring to a specific part of the text on the page.

2.
a minor or tangential comment or event added or subordinated to a main statement or more important event.

3.
Kobe Bryant's career after LeBron James brought a championship to title starved Cleveland, Ohio. Ending the 51 year professional sports title drought.

[Inferno]

the world in general > 100 or so select group of agenda driven media

if the mvp means as much as lebron fans say it does. whos the best player in the nba right now

Yeah, I surely trust a ranking system that is determined by how many stans you have :bowdown:

[ShawkFactory]

:wtf:
:lol

that was when he was half way to his first full legit title as leader without a legendary sidekick


just sayin


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anyone willing to answer this from the overreaction ISH community
2 huge differences:

A) Lebron is leading a squad of castoffs, given his top 2 guys are injured.

B) Lebron is just a better player, so the scenarios aren't comparable.

[kennethgriffin]

footnote
[foo t-noht]
noun
1.
an explanatory or documenting note or comment at the bottom of a page, referring to a specific part of the text on the page.

2.
a minor or tangential comment or event added or subordinated to a main statement or more important event.

3.
Kobe Bryant's career after LeBron James brought a championship to title starved Cleveland, Ohio. Ending the 51 year proffesional sports title drought.



so lebron is like a special olympian winning in the actual olympics... is that what youre saying

:lol

[chazzy]

Cmon man this is a weak attempt :lol

[LikeABosh]

:sleeping When Kobe was up 2 wins on Orlando he was a 0x FMVP, 1 time MVP. Lebron is 2x FMVP and 4xMVP already.

[Ne 1]

:sleeping When Kobe was up 2 wins on Orlando he was a 0x FMVP, 1 time MVP. Lebron is 2x FMVP and 4xMVP already.
Kobe was also a 3x champion

[SouBeachTalents]

assuming lebron wins


#1 russell - 11
#2 Jordan - 6
#3 Kareem - 6
#4 Kobe - 5
#5 Magic - 5
#6 Duncan - 4.5 ( lockout )
#7 Shaq - 4
#8 Bird - 3
#9 Lebron - 2.5 ( lockout )
#10 Wilt - 2



lebron might make the top 10 if he wins.. thats about it

Not all rings are the same. A LeBron ring this year is infinitely more impressive than Kobe's in '00, Shaq's in '06, Kareem's in '88 etc. It'd arguably the most impressive title out of any top 10 player, obviously with the likes of Hakeem in '94 & Duncan in '03 having arguments as well

[kennethgriffin]

:sleeping When Kobe was up 2 wins on Orlando he was a 0x FMVP, 1 time MVP. Lebron is 2x FMVP and 4xMVP already.


if an mvp means anything. whos the best player in the nba right now

answer the question...

:lol


lebrons winning a title in 2015 after a guy won the media award


now people say lebrons better than curry.. infact they did all year.

same thing kobe did both years lebron won the award in 2009 and 2010

so ? why the double standard

whys the award only meaningful when lebron wins it. when he doesnt the award doesnt signify the best player. but when he does win it then its the end all be all

:lol


hypocrites

[plowking]

The only thing comparable that Kobe could do, is go back to Charlotte and win a championship there, to the team he was drafted to.

Otherwise, I could never rank him above Bron if he win this year.

[kennethgriffin]

The only thing comparable that Kobe could do, is go back to Charlotte and win a championship there, to the team he was drafted to.

Otherwise, I could never rank him above Bron if he win this year.


lol so the 24 teams with 50+ wins kobe had to go through compared to the 7 lebrons beatin is thrown out the window cause ...it wasnt in charlotte

:lol


5 rings.. who cares..

[LikeABosh]

if an mvp means anything. whos the best player in the nba right now

answer the question...

:lol


lebrons winning a title in 2015 after a guy won the media award


now people say lebrons better than curry.. infact they did all year.

same thing kobe did both years lebron won the award in 2009 and 2010

so ? why the double standard

whys the award only meaningful when lebron wins it. when he doesnt the award doesnt signify the best player. but when he does win it then its the end all be all

:lol


hypocrites
Lebron is about to surpass Kobe in FMVP. or wait, tell me why those don't mean anything either too.

[Magic 32]

Lebron is about to surpass Kobe in FMVP

You said the same thing last year.

No accountability?

[kennethgriffin]

Lebron is about to surpass Kobe in FMVP. or wait, tell me why those don't mean anything either too.
they do

but its about rings by mvps.. not mvps by ring winners


and we all know 2012 aint the same. and 2013 was a fluke shot title

so both dont hold much weight. especially with the collude

kobes 2009 and 2010 finals mvps stand on their own in another class


lebron would need 2 legit ones aswell to tie those

[Sportal]

lol so the 24 teams with 50+ wins kobe had to go through compared to the 7 lebrons beatin is thrown out the window cause ...it wasnt in charlotte

:lol


5 rings.. who cares..

How many of those teams were when Shaq was a Laker, can I ask?

[LikeABosh]

they do

but its about rings by mvps.. not mvps by ring winners
Lebron has 2 rings as the MVP. WTF are you talking man?

[LikeABosh]

they do

but its about rings by mvps.. not mvps by ring winners


and we all know 2012 aint the same. and 2013 was a fluke shot title

so both dont hold much weight. especially with the collude

kobes 2009 and 2010 finals mvps stand on their own in another class


lebron would need 2 legit ones aswell to tie those
You along with the other band of Kobetards on ISH are literally the only people who says this bullshit. Lebron is passing Kobe, just deal with it.

[Magic 32]

How many of those teams were when Shaq was a Laker, can I ask?

Kobe faced more 50+ teams in 3 years (2008-2010) then Lebron has in his entire career.

[rzp]

lol so the 24 teams with 50+ wins kobe had to go through compared to the 7 lebrons beatin is thrown out the window cause ...it wasnt in charlotte

:lol


5 rings.. who cares..

FOOTNOTE

[rzp]

Kobe faced more 50+ teams in 3 years (2008-2010) then Lebron has in his entire career.

FOOTNOTE

[SouBeachTalents]

they do

but its about rings by mvps.. not mvps by ring winners


and we all know 2012 aint the same. and 2013 was a fluke shot title

so both dont hold much weight. especially with the collude

kobes 2009 and 2010 finals mvps stand on their own in another class


lebron would need 2 legit ones aswell to tie those

It's funny you keep bringing this up, when not a single human in the world would choose 2012-14 Wade/Bosh over 2000-02 Shaq. If you say you would you're a ****ing liar

[rzp]

It's funny you keep bringing this up, when not a single human in the world would choose 2012-14 Wade/Bosh over 2000-02 Shaq. If you say you would you're a ****ing liar

do not feed the troll plz

[Simple Jack]

Why hasn't Kenneth been banned yet? There is no way he's this stupid, so he's clearly trolling. Making the same topics day in day out for the purpose of trolling does nothing to further basketball discussions on this forum.

[Cleverness]

Why hasn't Kenneth been banned yet? There is no way he's this stupid, so he's clearly trolling. Making the same topics day in day out for the purpose of trolling does nothing to further basketball discussions on this forum.

It's his daily topic to prop up Kobe and hate on LeBron. He probably just gets annoyed by everyone talking about LeBron's greatness.

Btw, someone should mention how 2009 was an asterisk championship anyway since the defending champs were without KG.gif

[Bankaii]

Kobe faced more 50+ teams in 3 years (2008-2010) then Lebron has in his entire career.
You're avoiding the question. How many of the 24 was Shaq there for?

[riseagainst]

Lebron > Kobe.

[pauk]

you mention mvps as if theyre still prestigious lol

iverson/nash/rose/curry ... shat.... on its history

redundant media garbage

They all deserved those MVPs, MVP is the proof of impact / that your game translates to winning in the regular season.... more than anybody else...

1... ok... 2... nice... but when you get 3.... and 4... or more... its no fluke... you are going into historic category.... and its very prestigious.

Same with being the man/fmvp/mvp in a championship run, which is even more prestigious, which is YOU being the absolute best player putting your teammates on your back and racing to the finish line from game 1 of the regular season all the way to Game 4-5-6-7 in the Finals....

Kobe had 2 such runs and those are what made me put up Kobe in my top 10 list.... his other 3 are not meaningless or something, no, just nowhere as significant as those last 2.... I can tell you like this i would have Kobe in my top 10 list even without those first 3 rings.... For you to be top 10 all-time you have to have proved yourself as being able to do that, to be the best, to lead a team to a championship, to be THE accountability for that outcome.... you can have some or many 2nd fiddle championships, but you are not getting in top 10 until you proved that.... and Kobe proved that with his last 2...

You have to do that if you want to be in the top 10... or else we might aswell have the likes of Havlicek or Pippen in the top 10 or something....

Now you maybe get it?

[#number6ix#]

Warriors still gonna win the series

[ISHGoat]

It's his daily topic to prop up Kobe and hate on LeBron. He probably just gets annoyed by everyone talking about LeBron's greatness.

Btw, someone should mention how 2009 was an asterisk championship anyway since the defending champs were without KG.gif


no need to argue with retards like op. his criteria constantly changes and he has no concept of consistent logic. an * can be applied to every championship in the history of sports by his standards.