View Full Version : Durant would have averaged 50 ppg vs GSW
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 11:21 AM
If Lebron is scoring at will.....a pure scoring machine like KD would have devoured this weakling GSW defence.
Barnes,Iggy and Green would be looking like D-leaguers lol
LikeABosh
06-10-2015, 11:28 AM
Deuxrant is old news kid.
imdaman99
06-10-2015, 11:28 AM
Dropped 30 points in a half on them, and didn't need 30+ shots :oldlol:
fragokota
06-10-2015, 11:30 AM
If Lebron is scoring at will.....a pure scoring machine like KD would have devoured this weakling GSW defence.
Barnes,Iggy and Green would be looking like D-leaguers lol
He'd burn them. But he is nowhere near the passer James is, nor does he have the same court vision. He'd be doubled for sure.
Kingwillball
06-10-2015, 11:32 AM
Did we forget Durant is jump shooter ?:facepalm
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 11:35 AM
He'd burn them. But he is nowhere near the passer James is, nor does he have the same court vision. He'd be doubled for sure.
His playmaking skills improved significantly in that MVP season
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 11:42 AM
Dropped 30 points in a half on them, and didn't need 30+ shots :oldlol:
No need to hate on LBJ anynore bruh.
Thunder fam and lebron fam are allies now
edrick
06-10-2015, 11:43 AM
With Westbrook running the show, the Warriors would run over the Thunder. KD nor Westbrook can control the pace and slow the shit down like Lebron does.
Marchesk
06-10-2015, 11:44 AM
Did we forget Durant is jump shooter ?:facepalm
He averaged 32 and 5.5 assists his MVP season. Hardly just a jump shooter.
Durant is much more of a jumpshooter... isnt as prolific with his playmaking/IQ/intangibles/leadership offensively... nor as impactful defensively..... AND he plays with a balldominant Westbrook who is a guy who loves to chuck like Wilt or Jordan or Kobe or Lebron is doing now 24-7 :P...
Dunno about 40 or especially 50.... but im pretty sure KD would have ~30 on a bit more efficiency... but probably not lead 2-1 by now....
Goldrush25
06-10-2015, 11:58 AM
They wouldn't defend Kevin Durant in the same manner as they defend Lebron.
Durant is much more of a jumpshooter... isnt as prolific with his playmaking/IQ/intangibles/leadership offensively... nor as impactful defensively..... AND he plays with a balldominant Westbrook who is a guy who loves to chuck like Wilt or Jordan or Kobe or Lebron is doing now 24-7 :P...
Dunno about 40 or especially 50.... but im pretty sure KD would have ~30 on a bit more efficiency... but probably not lead 2-1 by now....
Durant is a much more balanced scorer right now. Lebron's shot isn't very reliable at this point in time whereas Durant's always been a knockdown shooter who can drive and finish. Lebron's post game is better, for sure, but the Warriors have been able to keep him from killing them down there as well.
dunksby
06-10-2015, 12:09 PM
A 23-year-old Durant averaged 31 PPG on 57/41% against peak LeBron, let that sink in.
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 12:11 PM
Durant is much more of a jumpshooter... isnt as prolific with his playmaking/IQ/intangibles/leadership offensively... nor as impactful defensively..... AND he plays with a balldominant Westbrook who is a guy who loves to chuck like Wilt or Jordan or Kobe or Lebron is doing now 24-7 :P...
Dunno about 40 or especially 50.... but im pretty sure KD would have ~30 on a bit more efficiency... but probably not lead 2-1 by now....
Don't agree with this....Westbrook missed much of last season...and with KD being the playmaker...Thunder were still of the top offences last season.
.the fact his TO rate is lower than Lebron...and his shooting % are higher means his IQ is one of the best in the league.
Not to forget he is clutch as fvck
SugarHill
06-10-2015, 12:14 PM
A 23-year-old Durant averaged 31 PPG on 57/41% against peak LeBron, let that sink in.
durant is and will always be a munsta
chosen_one6
06-10-2015, 12:14 PM
LeBron is bigger, stronger, and faster than Durant. Those factors are why neither Iggy, Dray, or anyone else on that Warriors squad can guard him for longer than a handful of possessions in a row. LeBron will wear them down and cause them to foul out. Not to mention LeBron's vision is vastly superior and doesn't look to score all the time. He almost always finds the open man.
Durant, on the otherhand, is a more prolific shooter but lacks the court vision and size that LeBron has. He could pull up for jumpshots with ease but once the Warriors start getting physical with him, and the jumpshot isn't there, what else does he have to go to? He can't push people around in the post and he can't push them off on his drives because of how his frame is built. Then you factor in Chuckbrook and I don't see it. Sorry OP.
dunksby
06-10-2015, 12:16 PM
LeBron is bigger, stronger, and faster than Durant. Those factors are why neither Iggy, Dray, or anyone else on that Warriors squad can guard him for longer than a handful of possessions in a row. LeBron will wear them down and cause them to foul out. Not to mention LeBron's vision is vastly superior and doesn't look to score all the time. He almost always finds the open man.
Durant, on the otherhand, is a more prolific shooter but lacks the court vision and size that LeBron has. He could pull up for jumpshots with ease but once the Warriors start getting physical with him, and the jumpshot isn't there, what else does he have to go to? He can't push people around in the post and he can't push them off on his drives because of how his frame is built. Then you factor in Chuckbrook and I don't see it. Sorry OP.
Durant has a 9'2" standing reach, imagine how high his release is at the peak of his J and stop talking about how Durant doesn't have a size edge.
chosen_one6
06-10-2015, 12:21 PM
Durant has a 9'2" standing reach, imagine how high his release is at the peak of his J and stop talking about how Durant doesn't have a size edge.
If Tony Allen, a 6'6 defender, can cause problems for Durant, that should tell you all you need to know about that reach and height advantage.
If you trap and get so close to him when he's about to shoot, it's going to affect his shot. It's not ALWAYS going to affect it, and Durant will get his, but he would not be dropping 50 a game. The jumpshot is not always going to be there, This is not a video game. And when the jumpshot is not there, his physical weaknesses are going to be exacerbated.
dunksby
06-10-2015, 12:21 PM
If Tony Allen, a 6'6 defender, can cause problems for Durant, that should tell you all you need to know about that reach and height advantage.
If you trap and get so close to him when he's about to shoot, it's going to affect his shot. It's not ALWAYS going to affect it, and Durant will get his, but he would not be dropping 50 a game. The jumpshot is not always going to be there, This is not a video game. And when the jumpshot is not there, his physical weaknesses are going to be exacerbated.
Durant had one bad game against MEM, stop spewing BS.
chosen_one6
06-10-2015, 12:23 PM
Durant had one bad game against MEM, stop spewing BS.
Saying his height and reach is the end all, be all, and thats why he's going to score 50 a game is spewing BS.
And I like how you're not responding to anything else I'm saying either. Good discussion.
dunksby
06-10-2015, 12:24 PM
Saying his height and reach is the end all, be all, and thats why he's going to score 50 a game is spewing BS.
Did I say he'd average 50 a game? You reaching now :oldlol:
chosen_one6
06-10-2015, 12:26 PM
Did I say he'd average 50 a game? You reaching now :oldlol:
Look at the thread title idiot.
dunksby
06-10-2015, 12:27 PM
Look at the thread title idiot.
So anyone who is here posting thinks Durant would average 50 including you?
J Shuttlesworth
06-10-2015, 12:34 PM
I'm not gonna deny that Durant could score 30+ on high efficiency against this team, but the problem is that his play style fits right into GSW's tempo. At the same time, I could see Iggy or Green getting to him a little bit. We all know Tony Allen was able to, which is why I won't say 40+
But I don't know if he'd carry the team to the W. LeBron's biggest strength right now is slowing the tempo down. That's not how KD likes to play. He doesn't pound it in the post. Him and Westbrook both play high tempo, and GSW would see themselves getting a lot more fastbreak opportunities.
The other thing is that I don't know if Durant will let himself score that much when playing alongside Westbrook.
livinglegend
06-10-2015, 12:38 PM
''would have'', ''should have'', ''could have'' ....
Talk to us when he actually does it.
''Lebron would have scored 100 ppg if Clippers were in the finals instead of #1 defense warriors''
LeBron is bigger, stronger, and faster than Durant. Those factors are why neither Iggy, Dray, or anyone else on that Warriors squad can guard him for longer than a handful of possessions in a row. LeBron will wear them down and cause them to foul out. Not to mention LeBron's vision is vastly superior and doesn't look to score all the time. He almost always finds the open man.
Durant, on the otherhand, is a more prolific shooter but lacks the court vision and size that LeBron has. He could pull up for jumpshots with ease but once the Warriors start getting physical with him, and the jumpshot isn't there, what else does he have to go to? He can't push people around in the post and he can't push them off on his drives because of how his frame is built. Then you factor in Chuckbrook and I don't see it. Sorry OP.
You forget that Durant is fully capable of making the right passes. His court vision isn't at Lebron's level, but he was still capable of putting up 5.5apg last season and is one of the better playmaking SF's in the game right now.
Durant getting iso situations, single coverage the entire game. Durant would average 45+ppg with this many attempts. Easily.
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 12:52 PM
''would have'', ''should have'', ''could have'' ....
Talk to us when he actually does it.
''Lebron would have scored 100 ppg if Clippers were in the finals instead of #1 defense warriors''
Sorry but lebron isn't prolific or an effecient scorer like KD...so your logic is piss poor.
C ya
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 12:54 PM
Saying his height and reach is the end all, be all, and thats why he's going to score 50 a game is spewing BS.
And I like how you're not responding to anything else I'm saying either. Good discussion.
Were he too shoot as much as LBJ is doing now...that is over 35+ shots per game....would he not average 50?
G0ATbe
06-10-2015, 01:13 PM
If they're using the same dumbass gameplan they're using on LeBald atm? Without a doubt.
Solefade
06-10-2015, 01:14 PM
you mean the durant that got shutout by a midget last year? yeah right
Xoush
06-10-2015, 01:28 PM
He certainly has the talent, but I doubt he has the heart and mind to pull that off.
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 01:32 PM
you mean the durant that got shutout by a midget last year? yeah right
36/11 in Game 6
33/9 in Game 7
What shutout?
50ppg, 2rpg, 2apg. not impressed.
chips93
06-10-2015, 01:35 PM
His playmaking skills improved significantly in that MVP season
he improved massively but hes still nowhere close to bron as a passer
dazzer87
06-10-2015, 01:39 PM
Durant has a 9'2" standing reach, imagine how high his release is at the peak of his J and stop talking about how Durant doesn't have a size edge.
and got locked down by this dude.............
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/05/kevin-durant-chris-paul-nba-playoffs-oklahoma-city-thunder-los-angeles-clippers1.jpg
Nah. Not with Westbrook on his team.
JerrySeinfeld
06-10-2015, 02:23 PM
All of these LeBron stans acting like Durant would struggle with the Warriors realize that his best production vs any team in the league comes vs the Warriors, right?
And that includes shooting better than 40% from the field or whatever Bron is doing.
JerrySeinfeld
06-10-2015, 02:24 PM
and got locked down by this dude.............
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/05/kevin-durant-chris-paul-nba-playoffs-oklahoma-city-thunder-los-angeles-clippers1.jpg
greatest lock down defense ever, Durant couldn't do anything that series, particularly in the final games :applause:
funnystuff
06-10-2015, 02:34 PM
Maybe if he put some time in the gym, and worked on not looking so ballimac, then maybe he would of not gotten injured and would of had a chance in the WCF against GSW.
This is a thread full of hypothetical statements, right?
God, some people are so dense. Durant is great yes, but he would surely be doubled as soon as he got going and unless he can find the open man as quickly as Lebron can, then the Thunder would not be successful. Its simple really. They can't double Lebron ALL the time because he sees the game a few steps in advance and knows who to get the ball to.
sd3035
06-10-2015, 02:39 PM
There's no way in hell GS would ever have single coverage on KD all game like that
LAZERUSS
06-10-2015, 02:44 PM
Lebron is doing nearly all of his damage at in the restricted area. He is basically taking the ball 15+ away and getting within a couple of feet of the rim.
No way in hell does Durant accomplish that.
JerrySeinfeld
06-10-2015, 02:45 PM
God, some people are so dense. Durant is great yes, but he would surely be doubled as soon as he got going and unless he can find the open man as quickly as Lebron can, then the Thunder would not be successful. Its simple really. They can't double Lebron ALL the time because he sees the game a few steps in advance and knows who to get the ball to.
So KD can't pass out of double teams now?
Did anyone else watch his MVP season at all? I've never seen a player in the modern era get double teamed that hard, since OKC was starting 2 useless scrubs and had no Westbrook, he was getting double teamed almost every possession that year but it didn't matter because he can still score on two defenders better than 95% of the league can score on one and he proved that year that he's a great passer, probably the 2nd best playmaking SF after LeBron
dunksby
06-10-2015, 02:49 PM
2012 Heat>>>>>>>2015 GSW
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 03:39 PM
2012 Heat>>>>>>>2015 GSW
Dat da trut
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
06-10-2015, 04:03 PM
A 23-year-old Durant averaged 31 PPG on 57/41% against peak LeBron, let that sink in.
Its a shame his teammates didnt show up except for Westbrook in one game. Plus having the worst coach in the league that made no adjustments and had Kendrick Perkins chasing Battier on the perimeter most of the series when Heat downsized:lol :lol :lol
NBASTATMAN
06-10-2015, 04:05 PM
Lebron is doing nearly all of his damage at in the restricted area. He is basically taking the ball 15+ away and getting within a couple of feet of the rim.
No way in hell does Durant accomplish that.
Long rebounds lead to fast break points for the opposing team.. BTW how many 50 pt games has Durant had in his career?
BlakFrankWhite
06-10-2015, 04:08 PM
Long rebounds lead to fast break points for the opposing team.. BTW how many 50 pt games has Durant had in his career?
Ironically his career high is vs GS dubya
NBASTATMAN
06-10-2015, 04:10 PM
Ironically his career high is vs GS dubya
How many 50 pt games has he had in his career?
No, he wouldnt, and they would be down 0-3 if it was KD instead of Bron. And this is coming from a huge KD fan.
LeBron is playing at a GOAT level this finals. Who cares about shooting percentages, he is carrying this squad at a level that no one in the history of the game has ever done.
Stop hating and enjoy basketball. Jesus ****ing christ
NBASTATMAN
06-10-2015, 04:12 PM
No, he wouldnt, and they would be down 0-3 if it was KD instead of Bron. And this is coming from a huge KD fan.
LeBron is playing at a GOAT level this finals. Who cares about shooting percentages, he is carrying this squad at a level that no one in the history of the game has ever done.
Stop hating and enjoy basketball. Jesus ****ing christ
If Lebron were making some of those shots he should make than they would be up 3-0
Cleverness
06-10-2015, 04:14 PM
If Lebron is scoring at will.....a pure scoring machine like KD would have devoured this weakling GSW defence.
Barnes,Iggy and Green would be looking like D-leaguers lol
Wow. So in your opinion, KD > LeBron?
oarabbus
06-10-2015, 04:32 PM
If Lebron is scoring at will.....a pure scoring machine like KD would have devoured this weakling GSW defence.
Barnes,Iggy and Green would be looking like D-leaguers lol
Yeah, but KD actually averaged 0ppg against GSW, phagg0t ass, bitch ass, punk ass OP
So KD can't pass out of double teams now?
Did anyone else watch his MVP season at all? I've never seen a player in the modern era get double teamed that hard, since OKC was starting 2 useless scrubs and had no Westbrook, he was getting double teamed almost every possession that year but it didn't matter because he can still score on two defenders better than 95% of the league can score on one and he proved that year that he's a great passer, probably the 2nd best playmaking SF after LeBron
Never said he can't pass out of double teams. And its not a big deal being the 2nd best playmaking SF in the league today because there are barely any playmaking sf's in the league today. Back then you had Pippen, Grant Hill, McGrady, etc....
If Durant gets doubled, sure he can make a pass out of a double team but I said Lebron sees the game a few plays in advance just like Magic, Nash, Kidd and other great playmakers. Durant is NOT on that level and you know it.
No, he wouldnt, and they would be down 0-3 if it was KD instead of Bron. And this is coming from a huge KD fan.
LeBron is playing at a GOAT level this finals. Who cares about shooting percentages, he is carrying this squad at a level that no one in the history of the game has ever done.
Stop hating and enjoy basketball. Jesus ****ing christ
Wow, an unbiased fan. Not like the rest of these stans....:applause:
aj1987
06-10-2015, 05:21 PM
Rookie LeBron had a better assist to TOV ratio than MVP Durant (his best passing season). KD getting doubled by Iggy and Green (due to his lack of elite playmaking skills) would definitely shake him. Dude really can't handle physical defenses and GSW are currently employing a LOT of physicality. GSW would've been up 3-0.
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